Sig P210 Standard and Target
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
- In this video we take a look at the @sigsauerinc P210. This pistol is legendary for being amazingly accurate and crafted with spectacular quality for a production pistol. I will probably never see a Swiss P10, but this U.S. made P10 is very nice indeed. We take a table-top look at the Standard as well as the differences with the P10 Target.
Many thanks to Shoot Point Blank in Carmel, Indiana for lending me the P10 Target for this review. What do you think of the Sig Sauer P10 and what role do you think it flexes into?
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Bought mine last week,and it's a work of art. This is a prime example of thinking outside the box. Excellent craftsmanship.
Put a couple hundred rounds through it and the trigger gets even better. Did you purchase the target model or the regular model? Thank you very much for watching.
Target model, love the grips too
@@waynecastleman1363 Yes! The target grips are sweet. Better sights as well.
I love my german made P210 Supertarget(6in barrel) and there are no words to describe it. It is one of these times that words seem poor and meaningless. A pocket rifle with out of this world accuracy,glass on ice operation,build quality,trigger and tolerences made my aliens.When other competitive shooters strugle with their custom made 1911s,CZs,Tanfoglios,Sphinxs etc to group in a 20cm paper target at 25 meters,i move back to 100 meters because i am BORED to shoot at less!P210s are and always be the best of the best of any pistol in the whole world!
They are very good. You have a beauty there. Thank you very much for watching!
Beautiful handgun, I just did a lay away for the standard from Buds. I like the grips and and sights, the standard is more like the Swiss model. Can’t wait for the P210 Carry to come out
I agree with you, the standard is more like the original. I too have been waiting for the P210 Carry but in this environment, I’m not holding my breath. Thank you very much for watching.
I have to agree with Foley Rowland regarding his take on the new P210s. I also own both the standard and the target as well as a Swiss fixed sight M49. They are my favorite shooting pistols and a joy to handle. No other current production semiauto pistols are in their league.
I also want to comment on the standard model's sights. I will admit that I wanted to upgrade these sights slightly only because I appreciate an improved sight picture for my aging eyes. I installed Trijicon HD XR sights (#6F and #8R) that fit the P226/P229 pistols.
Thank you very much for watching and for taking the time to comment. I appreciate it.
I appreciate the video, you did a pretty good job presenting it! However, I would like to say a few things, as I own both of these pistols. First of all, sigsauer released these pistols for people who have an appreciation for fine well-built Firearms and an appreciation for the past P210 models! They wanted to keep these models similar to the ones of the past, there’s a certain respect and honor in that, and that was their purpose, to keep these similar! With that said, anybody who wants these pistols to have scope options and other options that a lot of newer pistols might have, should not be looking at these pistols. These american made models were simply not made or intended for that use! As far as the sites go, again I will refer back to keeping them close to original, if they put crazy amazing awesome sites on the standard version, a lot of people would not want to purchase it because it is not what the original was like, also the sites on this pistol are just fine! Once you learn where to hold and get comfortable with this pistol, there is no need for any other sites than what is on the pistol! Furthermore, this pistol is very comfortable to shoot and it’s very comfortable to hold. Once you get comfortable with it, the question remains why would you want any other pistol and a home defense situation? I would much prefer a pistol that operate smoothly, accurately and that I can hold and shoot comfortably and feel good with, compared to a pistol that shoots 15 to 20 rounds that I am not comfortable with, And that does not have the mechanics of this pistol. These pistols are very special and they are meant for very special owners who understand this. Next, This gun is not that heavy, unless you’re carrying it all day long every day. Yes, there are pistols that are lighter and it may be a little easier to carry and more concealable, but again I will go back to somebody who wants an accurate and reliable pistol that functions near flawless every single time, if not every time. Ammunition varies though, especially in today’s world where they’re trying to produce it as fast as possible.The Carry version (p210) that was supposed to come out in June, it has been delayed until 2021 at the earliest. It will have a 4 inch barrel and include night sights. However sigsauer has said many times that right now they are concentrating on the highly popular P320 model, And they have made it clear that the money that P320 brings in and the popularity Is number 1 to them right now, So a carry version may not come out for quite some time, we will have to see, but I hope it does. Lastly, the cost of this pistol is high and has gone up in the past 2 to 3 years, but many other pistols have gone up as well. Also, if you were looking at a pistol like this, you should expect it to cost a decent amount of money, but you should also understand you’re getting quality and craftsmanship. This will be a pistol you will most likely never trade or sell! Home defense it would be a great option, magazine capacity is plenty, craftsmanship, quality and accuracy is irreplaceable!
I appreciate very much your point of you and all the information that you provided. Thank you very much and thank you for watching!
Good rundown from a bona fide owner.
You said it perfectly, and my sentiments exactly! I never understand when I read comments on you tube about the P210 where people ask for something the P210 is not. There are truck loads of high capacity double stack 9's with all manner of different sights. As you say, people simply do not understand the P210. If they want something similar to what they are asking for (double stack) then buy a CZ 75 it's similar in size and shape, but not quality.
When first announced by Sig USA I was so excited to finally be able to buy a P210 at a price I could afford. I bought one of the first target models to hit the dealers shelves. A couple months of months ago I bought the standard model too. If Sig comes out with the P210 carry I will buy one of those too.
@@d30gaijin Thank you, it’s nice to hear from another fan of this legendary gun. I appreciate what you had to say, it was very well thought out and intelligent. I have the target and the standard model as well and I love them both. I have been in contact with sigsauer many times about the carry Version, and I’ve gotten several different answers. I have even heard from one person that they have already been made and they’re packed away in a warehouse somewhere waiting to be released at a later date. I wish they would hurry up because I definitely want one of those as well
@@wesleyhobbs9 I read somewhere today (on a Sig forum maybe) that the US made P210 standard model has been discontinued, although they will continue to make the target model. Any idea if there's any truth to that?
If the carry model is stashed away I, like you, wish they would hurry up and release them. LOL
Best regards, Don
I like 3 dot sights,, at 50 years old my eyes pick up the white dots faster than anything else, i hate those plastic fiber optic sights that belong on toy guns....
Totally agree - nothing beats white sights for old eyes!
Thank you for the review! I think the role for this particular gun is similar to that of a 1911. It’s similar in its capacity and weight; however, it’s in 9mm which may actually be a benefit to some. I think it’s an option for someone wanting something other than a standard 1911 and willing to pay a little extra for quality. The sights are definitely a drawback; however, someone wanting a nice quality heirloom piece for range use, I think it’s a neat option.
I was actually stuck between this and the Walther Q4 SF; however, with the Walther’s better capacity, it seemed more useful to fill a home defense role as well as range. I love mine by the way and your review helped me in my decision!
Fantastic! I’m glad I could help. Thank you very much for watching and for your kind words.
It`s the Rolls Royce of handguns, thats it!
Two of my all-time favorites. Thank you for stopping by.
I love my P210 target. Absolutely phenomenal to shoot, I group this better than my Nighthawk. If they made this into a lightweight carry package I would probably shelve my P365 XL for that.
I was hoping so much that they would bring out the carry version that was hyped. I would’ve bought the first one that came in locally. But, we wait. Thank you so much for watching.
The P210 slide rails are not like the CZ. It's the other way around. The CZ rails are like the P210. P210 circa 1949 and the CZ circa 1975.
Nice pistols. I would use either as a target pistol, like my Colt 1911. Believe me, the sights on the Colt are even worse than those on the Sig P210 Standard. Thanks for the great review!
Thank you and you are correct regarding the sights on the Colt. Thank you very much for watching.
@@MDpolo My pleasure.
My dream gun. It’s really hard to find.
I can tell you exactly where to find it! The Sportsman’s Loft in North Dakota. The are the importers and sell them.
@@MDpolo awesome thank you!!
You are more than welcome. If you are really interested. I can put you in touch with them.
Nice weapon(s) and review. SIG may have been trying to be faithful to the original (legendary) design, but I wish they'd have considered taking it to a double-stack format for the 21st century. I'm a CZ/Tanfo fan, so this gun has kept me interested but the limited capacity is a deal breaker for me. Unless you're a serious Sig collector I'm not sure what role this fills in a collection other than range toy? (Might be quoting Honest Outlaw there)
I agree with you. Thank you for your kind words and for watching. I appreciate it!
For a double-action in similar quality class, check out the SIG P-226 X5 or X6. They will cost you approximately twice what thus P-210 does.
I can put 8 shots in one hole at 10 yards with those horrendous sights. There's not a damn thing wrong with those sights, they're far and away better than what's on a cheap 1911, Beretta 92, CZ75, etc. What do you expect fiber optic, adjustable, target sights? I'll tell you where the gun fits, it's an accurate homage to the best quality most accurate pistol ever made. It's not meant to be a carry gun or a self defense gun. It is a military pistol from the 1940's. It is an absolutely amazing target/range gun with excellent sights that will outshoot damn near anything. The ultimate standard for match handgun accuracy with a handgun is 5 shots in 2.5" at 25 yards, the P210 will put 5 rounds into 1" at 50 yards! The problem is not the gun it's your philosophy of use, you're trying to take a high end, semi custom target pistol and turn it into a self defense, carry, night stand gun. What you also don't understand about the trigger is that it is one of the best triggers, the gun is not a 1911, it is a different design. You can't have a pistol with a trigger mechanism different than a 1911 and make it like a 1911. It's mechanically different and it's just not going to happen.
The price is excellent for a hand built, hand fit, semi custom gun. Why do you keep complaining about it being single stack? A lot of people want a single stack target gun, it's thinner and more comfortable. I've shot damn near every pistol out there and have never found anything as comfortable as the P210. Again why do you need a magwell? It's not a competition gun! I also guarantee you will not find a softer shooting 9mm pistol, I don't know what that comment was all about.
@Kyle Michaels If it is not meant for carry or self defense - what did the military do with it?
Your full of #&*t
With one arm behind my back. 😂
Can the sights be upgraded on the Standard Model? Great video brother. Thanks and Blessings!
I believe so. I’ll have to look at them again. Thank you for watching and God bless you.
Trijicon SG603-C-600860 HD XR Night Sights are exact fit replacements for the original Sig white 3 dot. I installed them on my standard P210 and point of aim was perfect. The quality of the Trijicon sights are a perfect complement to the pistol. They are designed for both quick pickup and accuracy either day or night.
@@dougr5379 I just might have to look into that…. Thanks and Blessings!
+Doug Ruring Thank you very much for the information. I’ll have to look into that for mine. Thank you very much for watching.
How thick/thin is the SLIDE? Not the grips/controls, etc. It LOOKS like it's more slender compared to a P2XX Sig, Glock, HK, etc. Obviously the grips are fat, but Sig said they're already working on thin G10s. If it's reliable.... it's accurate..... and it's THIN.... it's a contender as a carry gun for me. I could honestly see this being a bit thinner in the slide/frame than the P239 I currently carry. But maybe that's just how it looks...
Well, it is 8.4 inches long and 1.6 inches wide... Your P239 is 6.6 inches long and 1.18 inches wide. So there is a difference in sizes. You’re not sacrificing anything in capacity really. So, it would depend which one you would feel more comfortable carrying and shoot best. Thank you very much for watching.
Thanks, 1.6 is definitely across the levers or grips. I’ve also seen 1.3 listed as width-which is probably still levers. Maybe the 1.6 is the target? The slide should be around an inch or 1.10.
If they’d release a double stack version and keep it at a similar price point, I think it’d be quite competitive in the “budget” 2011 market.
That would be very nice. Thank you for watching!
That would be worth calling ‘P211.’ 😉
What is a 2011? Also the point isn't to be a double stack. The new P210 is a modern redesign of the original military pistol, there is no reason for it to be double stack. If you want a double stack 9mm there are a literal truckload of choices. Some people prefer a single stack for a target/range gun. I know I do as it is much more comfortable to shoot, and that is the point of the P210.
ITS not meant or was it ever designed to be a double stack or was it ever meant to compete in a budget 2011 market. PEOPLE are always trying change this gun. ITS perfect the way it is.
I think stating that higher capacity would be awesome was because this pistol is so good. It was a simple wishful thinking statement. Where I was going with that comment was that it would be nice to have an option of a single stack and a double stack. Like a Staccato C and C2. But it is very awesome the way it is. Thank you for watching.
Can you change the p210 target grips to standard grips and vise versa?
@DaveSlinkard yes you can. Thank you very much for stopping by.
Very nice gun! Do you know if it is possible to get it out of the USA?
I don’t have that information but I’m sure it could be easily obtained by contacting the company directly. Thank you very much for watching.
Thanks and I’ll do that!
Closer to $1800 now. I finally got one!
Many congratulations! Thank you very much for watching.
Wowzers! I just picked up the standard the other day for $1300, target was $1389. I loved the feel of the target but just thought the grips looked funny so I went with the standard.
Ran across a new standard for 1100 at a local shop while just browsing. I snapped it up immediately. I haven’t even had the pleasure of shooting it yet. I’m a 1911 collector and can feel the differences in the slide action and trigger.
Congratulations on your purchase. That was a good price. Thank you very much for watching and taking the time to comment. I appreciate it.
I see comments about not being able to fit a red dot sight and it only having a 8 round capacity.
Well in my humble opinion there is less skill needed if you use a red dot and to me pistol shooting should be a skill if not an art that does not require the cheat of using anything but standard sights.
15 to 30 round magazines are a joke unless you are expecting to be over whelmed by a zombie horde lol, 8 magazine capacity is fine 🙂
I have got the target one. Wanted one quality pistol with great grips for the range practice and home defense. However, I agree with you on the price comment. It Should have come with a much higher magazine capacity and be optics ready at least. The slide is custom fit so it’s not possible to buy another one etc. Could have been a really great gun.
Really? It was never meant to have a higher capacity. There are so many high cap pistols already. This is a design from 1949! The gun is a faithful recreation of the original, not everything has to be high cap. Nor does it need to be optics ready, that's not the point. The reason for the price is because it's an all stainless steel full size pistol that is very complicated. It is also handmade and hand fit.
@@kylemichaels3373 Yeah, that's exactly the whitepaper description of this gun. But some of us would prefer the option to add more to it. They obviously did not make the exact replica but some sort of design match with the modern mechanics inside the gun.
I was ready to buy it. No adjustable target sights, low capacity mags in a 9mm no doubt.... a deal breaker for me. Same thing happened with the 220 in 10mm. 7 ( or 8 ) rounds mags in a huge gun like that was ridiculous. Focus groups for the gun industry maybe SIG?
I agree with you. Thank you very much for watching.
I checked out a P210 Target at my LGS yesterday. I was not impressed with the trigger at all.
The trigger on my $800.00 BUL Armory 1911 is Superior.
Put 100 or 200 rounds through one and the trigger changes dramatically. Mine is really good now. Thank you for watching.
The trigger is fantastic.
Hypercritical on the sights. They are traditional, but they are fine nonetheless.
It's role in my opinion, would be a safe queen for a Sig collector. I've been very bitter towards Sig for the past few years, so I guess I'll just leave it there, although I do own two Sig pistols that I like very much. Thanks once again MD, stay safe.
Why is it a safe queen? Those of us who own them shoot them all the time. Just like our $1500 kimbers, and those who own them use their Les Baer's, Ed Brown's, Wilson Combat's, and Nighthawks. The Swiss and German made P210's that now cost $3500-$7000 could be considered safe queens but the people who have them still shoot them.
I enjoy shooting it. It is a bit snappyer than I expected but tremendously accurate. Thank you for your kind words and for watching.
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0:48 Jeeeeezzz, Crappy Sights on a Sig, WOW, I own 1, Sights are NOT CRAPPY, perhaps you should have fired it before Tearing it DOWN. VERY POOR REVIEW ON YOUR PART SIR.... picked up a p210 Custom Carry, Beautiful Engraving, Fantastic Craftsmanship, very nice frame to slide fit and finish, excellent Bluing..
I have fired them. Quite a bit actually and I own four of them. The regular, the target, a Swiss made and now the Carry. Do you have your opinion and I have mine. I think for the price they could’ve done better with the sights. If they work well for you, then great! Thank you very much for watching.
you dont seem well versed in guns -
Well, OK. With respect, this comment is of no help at all. Please tell me where I’m lacking and how I can improve. That would be a helpful comment. Thank you for stopping by.