How Humanity Could Colonize Titan! (Saturn’s Moon)
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- How Humanity Could Colonize Titan! (Saturn’s Moon) NASA is sending probes to Titan which could be humanity's best chance at a hospitable planet in our galaxy! We're covering news, updates and more from NASA, let's dive into why Saturn's moon Titan could be the best option for human life.
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Could Titan be our best chance at a new human colony within our own solar system? Let us know what you think below!
If the atmosphere is flammable how would we land rockets on the surface???
Maybe land them more like a drown than a rocket. The same as the dragonfly mission
Titan is not for humans maybe a hundred scientists.
@@DougyG-jl7ps yes I see what you're saying but one spark and that's it
@@clayongunzelle9555 Didnt You hear what he said? 0% oxygen atmosphere no combustion can take place without oxygen
“Alien algae is still cool as shit”
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We could theoretically build a floating city of airships and using long hoses pump the Methane up to turn Titan into a giant Fuel Station for ships exploring or mining the Kyper Belt. While it would be tricky in the extreme the technology for this exists today and the first people to get fuel from Titan woud become Gozillionaires!
Kuiper Belt
@@hposnansky4222 lol I always get that wrong
I don't think the methane is all that useful. The problem is that you need oxygen too, and the only significant source of oxygen in the solar system is water as far as I know. Titan's got plenty of water too, but the energy necessary to split the water is greater than the energy released by using that oxygen to burn the methane.
This is all counter-intuitive because here on Earth, oxygen is very plentiful, so hydrocarbons are useful for energy. But O2 is only abundant on planets that have lots of photosynthetic life, and there aren't a lot of those.
On Titan, it would make more sense to thing of O2 as "fuel". If you had an internal combustion car on Titan, you would fill up your tank with oxygen.
@@Seehart I see what you are saying, there are lots of Ice in the asteroids plus Europa is almost all water (silicate core) so the two would combine beautifully :D
@@patrickbrett66 sorry, that's not quite it. Titan has plenty of water too. The problem is that you need energy to get the oxygen out of the water (electrolysis). But I checked the equations and realized I was incorrect about something. CH4 + 2O2 -> 2H2O CO2 yields more energy than 2H2O -> 2H2 +O2 consumes. So methane could be a useful resource, particularly if methane is preferred over Hydrogen as a fuel, in which case you'd be throwing away a mole of Hydrogen for every mole of Methane you end up using. My point is that you spend energy to get the oxygen.
You need both fuel and oxygen for combustion. The reason we usually think of fuel as the thing that contains the energy is that here on Earth, oxygen is ubiquitous and fuel is scarce.
The difference between Icarus and a person who does the same thing on Titan, is Icarus used candle wax to keep his wings together. That's why he fell to his death when he tried because the wax melted mid-flight and he fell into the ocean and he drowned. We wouldn't have that problem on Titan. Seeing that it looks like twilight all day long.
Humans won't get there till I'd guess the 2070's, but it will be hype as fuck to see more of the gas giant moons. Casey Handmer in an interview made a great point about how we should be launching either Starship or a Falcon heavy literally every launch window for any planet and I really wish that idea would get more support. It's cool seeing all the robotics that get to go to Mars but it's lame that none of the other planets/moons get much attention.
Humans will need to spend 14 years in space to get to and from titan. Let’s assume by 2070 rockets are twice as fast, that’s still 7 years, and even if it’s 3 times as fast, that’s still 4.66 years. Spending that much time in a small space will affect the astronauts mental health. I can definitely see the possibility of rovers and submarines on Mars by 2070 as you don’t need to send robots back, robots don’t eat or drink, robots require less space, robots can handle more gs, and robots will get to titan faster. As you can see, robots are a lot easier to transport, so by 2070, technology should be ready
@@KOKOBC who reading this comment will be alive in 2070?
@@wakanda4eva405 kids
There are many good reasons why.
@@KOKOBC Just to make sure I understand your comment correctly, you're saying a *round trip* to Titan is 14 years, right? Because NASA's Dragonfly mission is projected to take 7 years to get there one way. Anyhow, you're absolutely correct about the psychological detriments of spending years on a tiny spacecraft, and as well your bones and muscles would be mush by the time you arrived at Titan because you'd only have microgravity the entire way there. So yea without some major advancements in technology that would either reduce the travel time and as well something to simulate Earth's gravity, no human is gonna be able to make that trip. And the irony is that even if you could magically teleport there, there's still no much you could do because it is absolutely freezing all the dang time. It'd be cool to look around though and just see it with your own eyes.
If the term "God Forsaken World" was ever meant for any world it was clearly meant for Titan and establishing a base on its surface would be very very difficult and horrendously dangerous. Titan has an atmosphere 1.15 times denser than earth and is composed of 98% nitrogen with the remaining 1.6% composed of mostly of methane (1.4%) and hydrogen (0.1-0.2%), there is very little oxygen if any .
Titan receives just 1% of the amount of sunlight Earth does so midday on Titan thru its very heavy cloud layer would be like 5 minutes after sun down on earth . The average surface temperature is about −179 °C, or −290 °F , at that temperature water vapor cannot stay in the atmosphere so any water on Titan will be frozen solid as an ice that is as hard as steel .
A very special space suit would have to be constructed with super insulating properties and high energy source for heating the space suit and wearer because of the enormous heat sink capability of an atmosphere that is 1.15 times denser than earths and sits at -290oF !
If man was to try to colonize Titan he would have to bring along a very powerful and extremely reliable energy source , a nuclear reactor powered generator would be the minimum . Probably at least 500kw per individual. Solar cells would be useless and the mind numbing cold would be absolutely relentless .
-179 degrees Celsius will cause most metals to shatter like glass if stressed. All the living quarters would have to have cryogenic bottle type insulation, how you would do that on a portable walled structure I have no idea. You could only build your base on solid rock . If you built on some kind of sediment there is a chance it is being held together with some form of ice (permafrost) and the heat of the base would very quickly cause you to sink into the mire . All oxygen and water would have to be obtained from the water ice that is assumed to be present on the surface .
But of course the main problem with Titan along with its awful surface temperature is its colossal distance from earth which on average is 1.5 Billion kilometers. Also although Titan has .85 the gravity of the moon , very low , it has a very deep and relatively thick atmosphere , even deeper than earths , at least 600 km and even extending out to 1000 km . With an orbital velocity of 1.84 km per second I would say attaining orbit from the surface of Titan even with the low gravity would be very difficult.
Especially when you have to attain an altitude of maybe 7-800 kilometers first without too high a velocity before you clear the atmosphere, which will prevent you from getting too heated by atmospheric compression .
Its not like the Moon where you can attain orbit at just 10 km above the surface because the Moon has no atmosphere.
Even if I were High on LSD mixed with Cocaine, I just can't get the point of this Video. Why would anyone even in a nightmare imagine Titan a suitable place to colonize?
@Phez The Blue Mars has protection from radiation, and that is underground in lava tubes.
@Sir Tech Bad Batch you can't talk for everyone, for humans to become interplenatary species is neccessary. I bet if people would choose between living on mars surface or underground they would choose underground since it's a lot better. And you can make underground living quite nice with plants, artificial parks and such
@Sir Tech Bad Batch I like mars much better. Just the fact that it looks so much like earth is enough for me. And it's not necessary to live underground. We can build giant glass domes that are pressurized and oxygenated.
We have millions of years before the eventual, natural destruction of the earth but potentially a lot fewer years, due to human activity or even disasters we cannot predict, to figure it out, but we will need somewhere else to go. In the future, the sun might bathe the moons in the outer planets with better conditions (while the inner planets are not longer in the habitable zone), but there is a possibility they would still suffer. @@pobembe1958
Titan is uniquely suited to be a computing colocation centre. That is because the energy required for a switching operation, the fundamental unit of computing, goes down with temperature, and also because heat dissipation is an increasing problem the faster and more compact computer components get. Heat dissipation can be done in three ways: radiation, conduction and convection but normally, in space, you can only use radiation and conduction, while on Earth we mostly use convection in the form of fans. Titan's environment addresses all these issues by being very cold but also with a solid surface and an Earth-like atmospheric pressure that allows the building of unpressurized structures. Its atmosphere provides for convective cooling, in effect making the entire atmosphere a radiative heatsink coupled to interplanetary space. Humans can walk around there without a pressure suit, but only arctic clothing and a breathing mask. Indoors, they can live comfortably. The scenario of terraforming it for Earth-like use is a non-starter because it would be a useless ocean world.
As fascinating as it all sounds, the thought of a leak developing turning my habitat into a bomb with the capability of blowing me into orbit kind of scares the crap out of me! A small pipe going into house's here on Earth blows one up every once in awhile whereas on Titan we would actually be inside that pipe, hmmm... I wonder what the atmosphere smells like on Titan.
Methane has no smell, but with the complex photochemistry going on there, if sulfur exists there, it could be stinky.
Love your channel, i really enjoyed this video, thank you!!
Titan's lower atmosphere has a surface pressure about 1/2 higher than on earth with a temperature of liquid methane near the triple point, as mentioned by the speaker.
due to the low gravity you can tow, walking, a flying trailer.
A spacecraft with four rotors to fly around is an active NASA project , called Dragonfly .
Loved this video. I'm all for getting humans to Mars, but I'm far more excited about the prospect of exploring the moons of Jupiter and Saturn. NASA reckons Callisto would be an ideal human base camp, and Titan really is the motherlode. Plus, being able to operate robots in real-time on Enceladus - how cool would that be!
Dude. You are killin it. Keep bringin us the beautiful story-telling of the most exciting things to come and the most interesting topics. Kudos!
The only place we know for sure so far that has an atmospheric pressure within human tolerance outside of the Earth.
Honestly I think the only way we could ever hope to truly colonize not just our own system, but have even the slightest hope of moving beyond is to find some way to bypass the lightspeed barrier, whether that be the Alcubierre Drive, something similar, or something we haven't even considered yet.
Also I would be SO down to out on some Icarus wings and fly on Titan.
I really don't like ruining it for you but you will learn some physics in the last year of highschool that well... teaches you more about the reality we live in to say the least. This doesn't mean we are doomed but just means we need to get more creative and patient
@@fallendown8828 Something funny is that A.) I've already graduated high school and didn't need to take physics (yay, American education system at it's finest) and B.) I am 100% aware that all of these things will most likely never happen, seeing as how our species will most likely make all life on this tiny little rock extinct because we are just THAT stupid.
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@@sharonbraselton4302 yes you do, what?
Pls grow up & understand that your reality isn't CGI nonsense
Might be better to consider Dwarf planet Ceres for a colony. With water ice and ammonia. Breathable air with oxygen and nitrogen can be made. Nitrogen could be used for plants. Fuel could be mined from it's ices. Next to zero tilt, means it might be possible if solar panels are put up high enough on Ysolo mons it could also be used with RTG electricity. Artificial gravity habitats could be placed in it's surface. Might be able to stack some habs skycraned on the top of Ysolo mons.
Its actually called Ahuna Mons
yes it is
@@chazl9531It might actually be called Yamor mons now rather than Ysolo mons. It would be better to put a hab on the top of a mountain on it's north pole to be able to collect continuos sunlight.
Nah Titan is much better than Ceres
It's colder and further than mars. I'm currently a Titan fan myself 😋
Absolutely superb video. THANKS!
Whenever I think about Titan, I wonder how one would manage the explosive atmosphere in an airlock. The best I've come up so far is a liquid-filled tunnel, where one end is outside and the other is inside the habitat.And whenever your breathing mask leaks oxygen, you'll be spitting flames like a dragon ;)
An airlock could exchange Titan's atmosphere, which is mostly nitrogen, with pure nitrogen, before replacing that with air we can breathe.
You forgot to mention that Titan was probably an individual planet that was captured by the gravity of Saturn and you should hypothesize what Titan would be if it was in its own orbit again. And what needs to happen to create a balance between hydrogen and oxygen so it's atmosphere is not explosive
Great video (as usual for this channel), but you might want to work on your Celsius to Fahrenheit conversions.
Great video, liked and subscribed.
Really well done and interesting video!
Excellent stuff bro
This channel is so underrated. How do assholes like Jake Paul have millions of viewers yet channels like these are so small?? The world's mad af. Thanks for all the effort you put in to create extremely informative content, appreciate it man. Keep up the great work. PS Love The Tesla Space too. Good job on that as well.
Watch the movie Idiocracy and you will understand
Dudes making videos on make believe theory’s jake Paul’s Atleast doing real life shit
Hating on Jake Paul for a few likes... that's very Jake Paul of you..
@@SB-jn8cw best way to explain it. Love that movie
One must be a critical thinker to glean the good info from the chaff in this guy's videos. They are rife with incomplete info and outright errors. He needs to proofread his scripts much better.
Great job!
keep it up bro 💪❤️
nice video. make some more about space and planets
instead of a propane tourch you would just need oxygen in a tank and that would be your tourch. someone did this in a chamber it looked cool
NASA says this and that... but in reality they can't even get off planet earth these days.
Good video
Really like the fact you explain in meters and feet.
That will be awesome to colonize a new planet.
WOOW AMAZING.....
That's like, amazing.
Awesome video! My i got distracted big time around 2:32 for some reason...
New here and find it engaging and thorough One tech everyone seems to be missing is beam powered rocket propulsion. Laser provides the energy and all the rocket has to do is have a concentrator mirror of aluminized Mylar and a system for heating a propellant. Years ago a pulsed laser achieved 5000 sec. Isp using wax as propellant. This means that teavel time is dependent on the size of the broadcasting laser arrays in range at a given time. Transfers can be high Isp AND high thrust.
I believe laser arrays are what humanity requires to expand thru the solar system and beyond. We already have this tech but lack imagination IMO. Lasers in Mercury orbit could warm Titan for instance.
All the Fuel we would ever need
So interesting ! Stuff for our kids and grand kids !
Why this channel is underrated?
Sounds like a great place to make starships
Would love to see you do a similar video about Enceladus
in this universe it takes NASA 1B dollars to develop 2 spacesuits for Moon exploration.
If the flight to Titan is today, I'm sure I'll be on it.
I would love to see a colony over there. It is my philosophy that if we want to get out, we'll have to climb out, using the moons around the gas giants after Mars.
yes we do
Titan is the best option! Mars is inferior.
0:36 "Is that a dealbreaker tho?" hahahah I died
Jiminy Cricket! Your question is, "How long before we can send humans to Saturn?" Gotta' admire a guy reaching for the outer planets before we're back on the moon. I did enjoy the clip, thank you.
If you watch this video in 2023 and hear "titan sub" you think of something else than a NASA mission 😂😂
Once we figure out how to get large payloads off the planet for extremely cheap and develop much faster propulsion systems to get us across the solar system faster, we will be able to perform a bunch of these missions in close succession. Engineers should be focusing on that just as much as the missions themselves if not more.
I would be amazed if there a manned mission to Titan before the start of the 22nd century. There's so much to do before we even consider a manned mission to Titan.
Going back to the Moon and setting up a permanent colony there. Then sending a manned mission to Mars and setting up a permanent colony on Mars. At its closest Mars is about 34 million miles away. At its closest Titan is about 400 million miles from Earth. That difference is huge and will take some real tech ingenuity to overcome. That's why humans won't be sending a manned mission to Titan in the 21st century.
Honestly without that graphic at 2:34 I probably wouldn’t understand the issues around Increased gravitational pull so thank you.
love your content
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8:19: North Face is a Wax Doll Uranus brand. It’s “Galatian”. It has the texture of crayons. Milky Way uses mostly cotton and wool and Saturn Neptune rubbery woodsy fabrics.
We need to colonize the Solar System! We're humans dangit! We explore..
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Redbull should sponsor the space race to Titan for their future extreme sports competitions
Nice video, one thing: you should pronounce "mare" like M-A (the A you find in sArcophAgus) R-E (the E you find in Echo)
Thank you for a thought provoking video. DragónFly is already experiencing cost over run problems. Human visit to Titan? maybe near the end of this century... maybe
It probably won't be in our life time when the first human's walk on Titan.
Titan is the most promising colonization target. We wouldn't need to heat it up, we could easily create massive plastic domes using the resources there as both building materials and fuel. We wouldn't need to pressurize them either, just keep them warm.
We need to have faster propulsion methods though. Current technology takes 7 years to get to Titan.
We need to be able to cut that it half at least.
The rocket 🚀 sounds resourceful.
WOW
I wont be around (at least not in this body) to see this , but i dream of a time when us humans can spread out to other planets , moons , space station or cities... The imagination says itl be a magical time and hopefully not a scary time
I think that if we colonize Titan, the weather channel would be wild up there.
Can you raise your volume? It's half as loud as other channels, and it ends up blasting when other videos are autoplayed.
Tbh I feel every low gravity colony should have a few massive centrifuges in orbit, every few months people should be made to spend a bit of time there to experience earth’s gravity to lessen the impacts of long exposure to low gravity
A fascinating little world. Unfortunate that Saturn and its moons are so far away and that trip times are so long. My understanding is that the one definitely funded mission, NASA's Dragonfly, won't launch until 2027 and won't arrive there until 2036. Could another country or a private company get a mission there before that? I'm skeptical; I don't see any low-cost way to get to the surface of Titan.
I'm ready to fly, "Icarus Style"!!!
It wouldn't have harmed to mention that the Huygens probe, the only one that has ever landed on Titan, the only one that has sent back images from the surface and the provider of a great part of the data about the surface conditions you mention in the video, was sent by the European Space Agency, in a combined mission with Cassini. I wouldn't say anything if you weren't mentioning NASA for every little project related to Titan. Sometimes is good to acknowledge partners.
With a flamable atmosphere you could bring a tank of oxygen then light the flamables using the oxygen to oxidize it.
In that case wouldn't it actually be the oxygen burning in the ambient hydrocarbon atmosphere.
The four paces of the broken circle may the carcle be unbroken
7 years to travel is quite frankly alright, in comparison to the distance of other stars. That is really doable
Peat is very clean. The rest of the stuff can be used as fertilizer.
I think it would be a very good idea to have spaceports on Earth's Moon and on Mars to travel over to Titan as it would require lesser fuel to get there than launching directly from sea level on Earth. Thus, using their weaker gravity as a way to use lesser amounts of fuel, and getting over to Titan a lot faster. So it could play out like this.
Earth 🔵➡ Moon⚬➡Titan⚪
Earth 🔵➡Mars🔴➡Titan⚪
Earth🔵➡Moon⚬➡Mars🔴➡Titan⚪
Or just Earth🔵➡Titan⚪
Going to Mars:
Earth🔵➡Mars🔴
Earth🔵➡Moon⚬➡Mars🔴
Or if you're living, or from Mars:
Mars🔴➡Titan⚪
Mars🔴➡Earth🔵
Mars🔴➡Moon⚬➡Earth🔵
Or if you're living, or from Earth's Moon:
Moon⚬➡Mars🔴➡Titan⚪
Moon⚬➡Titan⚪
Moon⚬➡Mars🔴
Moon⚬➡Earth🔵
So it's basically like the plane airport aviation system with possible layovers to get to your destinations a bit faster, or to save a bit on fuel for long range flights, but using spacecrafts like Starship for example. From Earth, you'll need to use the Superheavy booster to leave Earth's gravity, then orbital refuel to get to your destination, but other places mentioned above would only require Starship and no Superheavy boosters due to lower gravity, that is if you'd like to build a miniature size of Superheavy on Mars. 😁
Just curious as of what the ticket prices is gonna be once this is in place...
I think a bit more than the average 401K retirement accounts... Idk 😳
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A comment and watching until the end helps the algorithm too. Good video! I've been thinking Titan was the place to go for a long time. Mars is good too but a bad solar storm that wipes out Earth may take out Mars too.
Uranus gas is liquid and more stable until lighted. It’s similar to when we ate hot pot at restaurants in Beijing the liquid jell used as heat source under the pots.
Excellent place for Android/robotic operations.
Resources are abundant and could be exported as well!
Long-term, of course.
Crazy that only one element is keeping Titan from erupting into a giant planet sized explosion
No sunlight, no breathable atmosphere, no drinking water, no gravity, and extremely low temperature. Yeah, everyone feel free to go live there. Go with my blessing. I'll stay on this beautiful planet and enjoy all that it has to offer.
I am curious as to what kind of entrances the engineers have come up with to make it possible for a person coming in from the outside with his suit on practically bathing in methane to be completely clean before he enters the living quarters. Especially with the outside air constantly pushing to get in.
That will be a challenge for the future generations to figure out.
Terraforming Titan: 1) Introduce oxygen 2) light a match
I think that if there is an ocean of liquid water under Titan's surface with a hole, a tube and a pump we can bring water close to freezing point into the surface to partially heat the living houses.
Then with artificial light we can grow fish and algae in the ocean for food.
I can design a special thermal suit powered with a decayed radioactive heat source that will never need to be recharged in a lifetime.
For energy I will provide my Zozimo's design, a double core hyper breeder fast reactor beast that generate 2GW of thermal heat or electricity for all Titan's habitants.
Belta Welta!
Moon and asteroid resource mining seems the best idea, just keeping fuel costs in mind.
Is good to have dream
I think one thing you got wrong or maybe overlooked is that freezing/boiling points of water are also effected by gravity. So even if we would get titan to a perfect climate our blood would still boil. So pressurized suits would still be a thing for every rock in the solar system even mars.
No, that's not quite right. Gravity does not directly affect freezing/boiling points of water or other liquids. All other things being equal, more gravity tends to correlate with more pressure, but in the solar system all things are frequently not equal, and Titan is an exception to this, with low gravity and high pressure. Only pressure and temperature determine freezing and boiling points. Increasing pressure does not cause things to boil, and indeed generally inhibits boiling. Your blood would very definitely not boil on Titan, even if you were swimming in a volcano (where you would quickly freeze to death). Pressurized suits would not be helpful as the pressure is already a bit high. But you would need a well insulated suit with active heating, as the high pressure would draw heat out of just about anything (high pressure increases thermal conductivity).
Nick- if that were true, then space stations and the Space Shuttle wouldn't have happened. Lol.
There are billions of earth like planets in the universe. We just can’t get there yet.
Light à match in the lower atmosphere
To get the kids really worked up about space travel and colonizing Titan NASA should adopt the tagline: "Fuck Mars! Titan is LIIIIIT!!"
Titan seems good as a fueling station
Fantastic content guys. Would love to visit there, but not in an ape suit.
More or less 40 years to build, launch and get back to earth with samples of Titan to earth. I'm not sure I'll be alive till then 🥺
3:57: That is pretty after Uranus has frozen off the crayon Galatian substance. Now it’s looks like PVC particles 😂
I wanna go there if there's an regular Supply of Goods from Artemis Space Ports.
What about the air weight though? Wouldn’t that be extremely hard to manage and tiring?
What is the feasibility of living on ice covered mountains?
Only 7 years to reach the moon Titan? WOW. Technology must have come a long way in a very short period of time, because I assumed it would take much longer than that. Shows you what know, which is very little.
This brings to mind the saying: " Just because you could, doesn't mean you should" lol. Just because we could live there, doesn't mean we should or it would be worth it. That being said, I can see us at best having a small science station there for research and resource mining but only for people to rotate out of, not live there like a settlement. This place makes Mars look downright hospitable, and that's saying something.
By that time we would not need to bring back samples, we would simply scan and replicate the samples for study here on earth. Molecular 3D printers will most likely be beyond infancy in 10 to 20 years time with miniaturised electron microscopes already in use today
We should start methane mining there to reduce the cost of our travel between earth and mars
Last Titan was given to Wax Doll as Pluto because it’s so uncomfortable for humans.
I volunteer! To go to Titan.