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Well.... The R1250RS does not have a touring size has tank and the K1600GT is pure touring, you're going to have to bring your A-game to convince me that the Gold Wing challenger is a SPORT Touring motorcycle. I'll give you the other two, but they really aren't the BMW sport touring flagship like the RT 1200 was and the RT 1250 is.
Because the RT perfectly walks the line between sport and tourer. If I want something sportier than the RT I’m jumping all the way to the RR and the 1600 is more along the lines of a goldwing lol
For a cheaper and more accessible option than any of these, the Triumph Tiger Sport 660 is fantastic. I love it. 80 HP, adjustable wind screen, over 200 mile range, under $10k, super fun to ride
@@Hotrob_J which makes every tour bike in that category irrelevant unfortunately... was looking at the versys 650 for a long time since it has everything i want except for cruise control
Yep, I'm old, just took delivery of a GT+, although Suzuki is having a hard time actually shipping them to dealers with the bags, but my dealer will install them for free once their supply chain issues are sorted. 50 years of riding, bike #7, and I couldn't be happier with the combination of performance, comfort and style.
I paid $7k for my FJ09, the engine is absolutely amazing, it's far more "sport" than "touring", and I just took a 3700 mile round trip from Austin to the west coast and back...you really can't beat the overall value for dollar on it. And while most owners are in their 40s and 50s...I'm 28.
Honestly I can't believe you ignored the FJR 1300 and the Kawasaki Concours 14. I mean they're kind of iconic at this point. And both are still available.
I'm surprised he didn't include the FJR1300 in the list.. I bought a 06 Fjr1300 from a friend.. Great ride.. Even fitted with a cruise control. Lol. It has close to 60k miles on it
To be honest, if I were shopping for a sport touring bike from BMW, I'd choose the S1000XR over the R1250RT. You get a bike with a smoother, more powerful engine that is lighter and has almost the same tech package.
My first thought was the same but the XR is notorious for vibration in the foot pegs and handlebars, which is a big issue if the point of the bike is to go lomg distances so I understand its exclusion
@@jamesh2499 the new gen XR has fixed all that and is way better. I've had both and for super long touring the rt might be a bit more coverable, but the xr beats it every day out on the corners or on track.
I have an xr as a daily rider, one of the last of the prevomious model, and i ride between 25 an 30 k kms a year to and from jobs, tiday around 320 kms. The vibrations are not an isue for me. The bike is a dream. I'm not confortable on the rt, with my 6'3", 250 poind figure.
@@petervautmans199 it's the prefect sport bike for big guys in 6,4 260 and I've tried so many different bikes before I found the XR and I'll probably never sell it.
a chain? I don't know... i hate taking care of chains, but the RT is having a recall over having troubles related to the shaft, but still, chains are such a pain for long distance.
Personally, I have the Tracer 9 GT, and I wouldn't trade it for anything. The engine is an absolute delight, and the versatility it offers is unbeatable. Incredibly fun.
I’ve been eyeing sport tourers lately as a new option for me and my wife to take on weekend trips. The hayabusa I own is fun, but I’m really wanting something with a tad bit more comfort for 2 riders. Having a partner who enjoys riding with me is a blessing. Thanks for doing so many videos on such a wide array of bikes, makes researching a breeze and I appreciate the no BS reviews.
Another overlooked MC is the Kawasaki Versys 1000 LT+. Since 2019, it has all the electronic goodies and is thousands of dollars less than the European makes. 118-120 HP (depending on which stat sheet you believe) & 105 ft lbs. of torque. I noticed several of the MC's that make 140-165 HP, but only delivered 105 or less ft. lbs. of torque. The Versys has usable luggage capacity for 2 up, especially if you add a rear trunk. Own a 2016 with almost 60,000 miles with absolutely 0 problems except for routine maintenance. European MC's just don't have the reliability that Japanese MC's enjoy. Versys ownership includes you are unique because you rarely see any on the highway and there are great deals on leftover models at around $16,000. A highly underrated & overlooked Sport Tourer.
You know what has more power than a sportster 1200, more torque too, will embarrass any 900 tracer, and is way more affordable than the MV ( super ugly)? It’s a V-strom for gods sake, they have been making them since 2002, and are as reliable as it gets, for crying out loud, give it the props it deserves!!!!!!!!!!!
Long term reliability isn't as good as the FJR1300. Mean Green still doesn't have the VVT quite right and in the early models, the KIPASS didn't always work right. No cruise control and you cannot not feed it regular gas. The shaft drive is overly complicated and routine maintenance is a PITA. Hardly "perfected".
Owned a Concours, it’s good. Currently have a Superduke GT, it’s the perfect sport tourer for me. Crazy fun, crazy fast, crazy unique, crazy torque, it is just straight crazy.
Tiger 1200 GT and MV Agusta? How about the BMW S1000XR (love my S1000XR) and the Aprilia Tuono. The Tuono has sorry excuses for luggage but they have them.
7:05 Tracer 9GT. I've had one for over a year & it is A GREAT BIKE, but with some rough edges. First, the engine & chassis is an amazing combination, it's powerful, handles very well & even the fuel economy is great (over 52mpg even with lots of so-so commuting). The display is a let down, I can't see how this is cheaper than a full TFT display. The touring screen is simply cra@p, doesn't really keep the wind off you, makes a lot of noise & the buffeting is hell. The seat is hard, badly shaped & tilted forward, making for a very uncomfortable time after about 1 hour or so. It's small problems like this that Yamaha could easily put right in production, but owners can easily improve everything except the display. Despite these issues I knew the Tracer 9GT was for me as soon as I tried one out, there were better bikes but at considerably greater expense (talking to you, BMW). The Suzuki GSX R1000GT+ looks like it's close & I will get to find out later this month when I try out a friend's bike once it's delivered, but I already know that the Tracer's MPG will be a lot better & I suspect that even if I'd had the choice the Tracer was still going to be my choice.
Looks like Yamaha are replacing the split screen with a single larger TFT for 2023. I could be tempted to try and retro-fit one to my 2021, would really help it out I think!
@@RyanJamesODonnell I wouldn't be so sure. It might be a new screen for 2023, but after looking at the pics IMO this was just a Test Mule for the adaptive cruise control & it just happened to be on a T9gt. The screen shown looked really odd, but time will tell.
@@dumptrump3788 I would suggest road testing is well past the point of just needing a bike to carry the kit. Both the screen and the radar are pretty neatly integrated suggesting pre-production. Plus, Yamaha don't really have a more suitable bike for adaptive cruise control?
Heck yeah, glad to see the Tracer 900. I have the 2015 FJ-09 which is what the early version was called in the states. Honestly if you don't mind skipping out on a little bit of tech, the 2015 can usually be bought at a good bargain in comparison. Only thing I will say is I did not like the stock fueling, had to fix that asap.
My first new bike was a '92 VFR750F with the greatest one up platform for long distance cruising. Then a '95 BMW R1100RS for more comfortable pillion without the weight of the RT. Currently on a 2002 ST1100 that had 19k on the clock when purchased 4 years ago. A shaft drive is almost requisite for 2000 plus mile trips with a pillion. I haven't been on the Aprilia Tuono to date, but the BMW R1250RS is a much better platform for crushing miles and still experiencing the elements than the RT. The Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX is let down by poor throttle response and the chain drive. Honda needs to get back in the game. I know you are generally haters, but for Iron Butt runs and long road trips on secondary highways, sport touring bikes keep you comfortable without the excessive comforts of touring rigs. When your bike has reverse, it's time for a convertible.
Obviously everyone loves his own bike. I wouldn't comment but sport touring is my thought of living. I got into bikes since birth as a pillion in my cousin's Honda 900 rr and I was missing it until my 42. 3 years ago I bought a used Gilera Runner 125 2stroke ( upgraded to 180cc) and one year after a new Citycom 300cc . Smooth and comfortable but still not satisfied. Being toooooo old and inexperienced for a sport bike ( like yammy says ) I wanted something comfortable for 2 persons and luggage, cheap yet bulletproof and reliable regardless mileage, needing almost "no" maintenance, easy driven and rider friendly, BUT fast like hell with sport dna . So , for 8 months now and lots of km (Europe) I own a Yamaha Fine Jet Rocket 1300cc first gen with ABS and believe me when I say it I have a "selfish" last wish to get buried with my beast when I grow older. I deeply know you missed her in your vid because it's the 8th secret forged "One to rule them all "! PS : I dare you to ride one for just a day in and out the city and come back with commentary 😎
Im looking out for sports touring bikes. My choices are GSX 1000GT, Tracer 9GT and NINJA 1000 SX (YOU MISSED THIS).... IN WHICH I REALLY LIKE THE GSX! But Still confused with 1000SX because of great handling and power delivery... and Tracer just because of sweet lime CP3 triple sound-da-re-nos.
@@user-jt6nw6wm5q Yea, I have the VFR800, I fucking love it. However at the level of sport touring bikes here the 1200 fits in better. the 800X Crossrunner is more ADV anyways.
Im hoping the Honda NT1100 will be in the US soon. I'd like to give it a try. Looks like more of a touring bike vs a sport touring, like a baby Goldwing.
Yam mentions MV agusta in these lists like it's a bike regular people have even seen in person. I don't think I've ever seen one on the roads, ever. Had it not been for these lists, I wouldn't even know the company exists.
Most likely sighting is a mistaken BMW: The pistons are angled up on the MV if seeing 'opposed' twins. The rest of the plastomod for the last 30 years, who knows.
Lol the Suzuki GT is in here but no Kawasaki z1000sx 😂 though i understand the other given option from kawa is way cooler but also MUCH more expensive! I got the Suzuki GT myself and i love this bike! Nice collection of bikes in this VID @Yammie Noob
BMW has the R1200RS, S1000XR and F900XR as Sport Tourers and you chose to name the 1200RT which is an absolutely not a sport tourer but a touring bike together with the K1600GT.
I felt that comment about rolling the dice. My current daily developed a problem with the engine deciding to die during movement. Nothing like a bike trying to kill you while passing semi trucks to get the blood flowing. Lol
The Super Duke GT is only on temporary hiatus, will probably be back next year on the new super duke platform. I demoed one a few years back, it's literally just a super duke with more wind protection and a bigger tank, same insane torque monster motor and giant supermoto personality. One that belongs on the list. Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX, the H2-SX's little (and significantly less expensive) brother, very similar specs to the Suzuki, but slightly cheaper.
I saw one of those MV Agustas at a bike meet I went to a few weeks back and it was beautiful. I LOVE the look of the brutale and if I had the money for a brand I don't know where to get serviced and looked after it'd be the brutale.
I've been watching your videos, and apart from the excellent writing talent - which, as a writer myself, I envy - I've noticed you use J.S. Bach (especially) and W.A. Mozart (as in this video) as your background music. Evidently, if I noticed, I love this music. But, I was just wondering the motivation behind your choice. Are you also a classical music lover? I'd love to find out - from one Ducatista to another.
I'm 25 and just got into motorcycles, haven't had a sports bike at all. And I felt attacked when he said that I'm old for wanting a sport touring bike LOL. Everyone I meet tells me that I'm to mature or old for my age LOL
Since when was the gold wing a sport touring bike, I thought it was established it’s just a touring bike. There’s nothing about it that handles well. Pretty much the equivalent to a bike frame Harley bike
I'll never understand why he bashes sport tourers. I ride the crap out of my FJR all over the west. I've seen and experienced so much on it, all while being able to rip around curves, fully loaded with a massive amount of gear. I have no desire to break my pelvis riding up and down trails, and I want to go fast. The sport touring segment is the best thing going, and has been for a long time. Everyone is buying adventure tourers, but few are riding them off road. The only advantage to those is a slightly more comfortable seating position for longer rides. But they suck for anyone under 5'10".
@@MrMountain707 - Me? I am not included… And I don't think you have seen the to bikes. They look way different. It is like saying the CT125 is basically the same bike as the GoldWing.
@@Gismo3333 odd statement. The CT and Goldwing share nothing. The MT09 and Tracer 9 share the same engine, transmission, tires, wheels, front suspension travel, swingarm, the list goes on.
Eeey Dear papa Yam! I know this is not a Sport Touring bike, but can you make a review of the honda hawk 11 2022?? It kinda looks cool, you know, that retro style.. Cheers my Yam!
I have been riding for almost 50 years, if you add in my dirt bike time pre old enough to get my Bike lic. so your opening commentary got my attention :-). Prick lololol. Its funny I am finally looking for a sport touring bike, Late Bloomer, the retro Café Racers are very appealing to me for that reason however I decided to look at a real sport touring bike, how come they all look like adventure bikes, back in the 80's a sport touring bike was the sport bike with different handle bars for a more upright seating position, frig the new sport touring bikes they are all fugly, but not the Kawasaki its nice. I'm going to buy an old 1984 900 Ninja, that is a nice sport touring bike, HP, Yawner.
1) Because it’s an American company. 2) Because the overseas assembly plants were for the purpose of market-penetrating FDI (same reason Goldwing’s used to be made in Ohio, then import laws changed) 3) Every manufacturer sources parts from overseas, so it’s all about the brand’s homeland when it comes to “where a bike is from.” Stop being a nob.
@@altortugas5979 I base on where it's built. Our most recent car is a Toyota after a lifetime of fords, because Ford doesn't make sedans anymore and Toyota is one of the most made in America cars. It's about where the manufacturing jobs are, not where the home office is.
John Ridley, well that just makes the point for my initial post, since all Goldwings are made in Japan now. As to your point, yeah, it might make you feel better about Toyotas, them being largely assembled in the US, and that’s great and all, but that doesn’t make it an American car or Toyota and American company, at least not in my opinion.
Like, Mexican Coca Cola might taste better because it’s made with cane sugar instead of corn syrup, but Coca Cola is still “American,” even when it’s hecho en Mexico.
It is probably you that make the bike wiggle. Are you hold your handlebars to hard, and not holding on to the bike with your legs? Try not holding the handlebars when wind hits the bike, or you get passed by big trucks. It is probably you that wiggle, not the bike. Or you should trailer your bike to a mechanic and have it fixed. Because then it is something terrible wrong with your bike. And it can fall apart any second.
I found the idea of an aging Kyle to be hilarious, I truly wonder instead of water does he make his oatmeal with monster energy? Does he use Mountain Dew as a sweetener instead of honey?
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A little late as this other yammie scammed me out of 3 hundred bucks , just great
A little late as he got me, he even sent a selfie, don’t know where he got it
BMW offers the R1250RS, F900XR, S1000XR or even the K1600GT, but Yammie chooses the RT as the sport-tourer. This is madness.
Well.... The R1250RS does not have a touring size has tank and the K1600GT is pure touring, you're going to have to bring your A-game to convince me that the Gold Wing challenger is a SPORT Touring motorcycle. I'll give you the other two, but they really aren't the BMW sport touring flagship like the RT 1200 was and the RT 1250 is.
I bet he hasn't even ridden most of them and made his opinions and list by reading.
I agree. It’s a shame.
Because the RT perfectly walks the line between sport and tourer. If I want something sportier than the RT I’m jumping all the way to the RR and the 1600 is more along the lines of a goldwing lol
@@talltale9760 279 kg and "sport bike" 😂
For a cheaper and more accessible option than any of these, the Triumph Tiger Sport 660 is fantastic. I love it. 80 HP, adjustable wind screen, over 200 mile range, under $10k, super fun to ride
But no cruise control... which is kind of necessary on a tourer
@@owenernst7768 it's sport touring, not just gobbling up highway miles. Cruise is nice to have but not a necessity
@@owenernst7768 literally nothing in the price bracket has it.
@@A_Dirrty_Bird sport TOURING says it in the name. Without cruise control it is a more comfortable and slower sport bike.
@@Hotrob_J which makes every tour bike in that category irrelevant unfortunately... was looking at the versys 650 for a long time since it has everything i want except for cruise control
Yep, I'm old, just took delivery of a GT+, although Suzuki is having a hard time actually shipping them to dealers with the bags, but my dealer will install them for free once their supply chain issues are sorted. 50 years of riding, bike #7, and I couldn't be happier with the combination of performance, comfort and style.
Mine is shipping from Cali this week but I lucked out and is coming WITH the bags.
I paid $7k for my FJ09, the engine is absolutely amazing, it's far more "sport" than "touring", and I just took a 3700 mile round trip from Austin to the west coast and back...you really can't beat the overall value for dollar on it. And while most owners are in their 40s and 50s...I'm 28.
Ninja 1000sx is the answer!
(I don't actually care what the question is)
edit: the bmw 1250RS is a sport tourer; the RT is just a tourer
RT can definitely still be considered a sport tourer. Both the RS and RT will be dragging their engine on the ground long before they run out of tire
Honestly I can't believe you ignored the FJR 1300 and the Kawasaki Concours 14. I mean they're kind of iconic at this point. And both are still available.
And the FJR is very popular with the Iron Butt crowd. You know, the people who do BIG miles.
Did my first iron butt ss1k on my 05 fjr a few months ago. The fjr is a freight train and my daily commuter 63000 miles and smooth as silk.
I'm surprised he didn't include the FJR1300 in the list..
I bought a 06 Fjr1300 from a friend.. Great ride.. Even fitted with a cruise control. Lol. It has close to 60k miles on it
Yeah he ain't the brightest bulb...
My first bike is a sport touring bike. Bandit 1200s. Wouldn't recommend it for other beginners, but it does handle beautifully
To be honest, if I were shopping for a sport touring bike from BMW, I'd choose the S1000XR over the R1250RT. You get a bike with a smoother, more powerful engine that is lighter and has almost the same tech package.
My first thought was the same but the XR is notorious for vibration in the foot pegs and handlebars, which is a big issue if the point of the bike is to go lomg distances so I understand its exclusion
@@jamesh2499 the new gen XR has fixed all that and is way better. I've had both and for super long touring the rt might be a bit more coverable, but the xr beats it every day out on the corners or on track.
I have an xr as a daily rider, one of the last of the prevomious model, and i ride between 25 an 30 k kms a year to and from jobs, tiday around 320 kms.
The vibrations are not an isue for me. The bike is a dream.
I'm not confortable on the rt, with my 6'3", 250 poind figure.
@@petervautmans199 it's the prefect sport bike for big guys in 6,4 260 and I've tried so many different bikes before I found the XR and I'll probably never sell it.
a chain? I don't know... i hate taking care of chains, but the RT is having a recall over having troubles related to the shaft, but still, chains are such a pain for long distance.
Personally, I have the Tracer 9 GT, and I wouldn't trade it for anything. The engine is an absolute delight, and the versatility it offers is unbeatable. Incredibly fun.
But you look old
It's outdated, but the Kawasaki Concours 14 is a great tourer and affordable to get. I love mine.
The Yamster just does not have what it takes for the Kawasaki Concours. HMPH .......... LOL
@@QvFaGwVaVaBahHsjw Its definitely a dad bike by Yammie standards, but I don't care.
Agreed, but glad to see sport tourers getting some attention on the channel none the less.
Ninja 1000 sx
Vstrom gang
I’ve been eyeing sport tourers lately as a new option for me and my wife to take on weekend trips. The hayabusa I own is fun, but I’m really wanting something with a tad bit more comfort for 2 riders. Having a partner who enjoys riding with me is a blessing. Thanks for doing so many videos on such a wide array of bikes, makes researching a breeze and I appreciate the no BS reviews.
@@westondifranco9313 she loves the busa, and riding in general. The comfort would be more for me than her lol.
Another overlooked MC is the Kawasaki Versys 1000 LT+. Since 2019, it has all the electronic goodies and is thousands of dollars less than the European makes. 118-120 HP (depending on which stat sheet you believe) & 105 ft lbs. of torque. I noticed several of the MC's that make 140-165 HP, but only delivered 105 or less ft. lbs. of torque. The Versys has usable luggage capacity for 2 up, especially if you add a rear trunk. Own a 2016 with almost 60,000 miles with absolutely 0 problems except for routine maintenance. European MC's just don't have the reliability that Japanese MC's enjoy. Versys ownership includes you are unique because you rarely see any on the highway and there are great deals on leftover models at around $16,000. A highly underrated & overlooked Sport Tourer.
It’s 75 ft lbs of torque on the Versys
I stand corrected. Thanks for the information.👌
You know what has more power than a sportster 1200, more torque too, will embarrass any 900 tracer, and is way more affordable than the MV ( super ugly)? It’s a V-strom for gods sake, they have been making them since 2002, and are as reliable as it gets, for crying out loud, give it the props it deserves!!!!!!!!!!!
Did you consider the Concours 14? Yeah they haven’t changed it in ten years. That’s because they perfected it.
(Clears throat) cruise control
@@tonyt01z hah well you got me there. Otoh, Atlas
We definitely need to ride one eventually! Keep hearing great things from their effusive owners
Long term reliability isn't as good as the FJR1300. Mean Green still doesn't have the VVT quite right and in the early models, the KIPASS didn't always work right. No cruise control and you cannot not feed it regular gas. The shaft drive is overly complicated and routine maintenance is a PITA. Hardly "perfected".
Owned a Concours, it’s good. Currently have a Superduke GT, it’s the perfect sport tourer for me. Crazy fun, crazy fast, crazy unique, crazy torque, it is just straight crazy.
Tiger 1200 GT and MV Agusta? How about the BMW S1000XR (love my S1000XR) and the Aprilia Tuono. The Tuono has sorry excuses for luggage but they have them.
Last year for the Yamaha FJR1300 and definitely worth a mention
7:05 Tracer 9GT. I've had one for over a year & it is A GREAT BIKE, but with some rough edges. First, the engine & chassis is an amazing combination, it's powerful, handles very well & even the fuel economy is great (over 52mpg even with lots of so-so commuting). The display is a let down, I can't see how this is cheaper than a full TFT display. The touring screen is simply cra@p, doesn't really keep the wind off you, makes a lot of noise & the buffeting is hell. The seat is hard, badly shaped & tilted forward, making for a very uncomfortable time after about 1 hour or so.
It's small problems like this that Yamaha could easily put right in production, but owners can easily improve everything except the display. Despite these issues I knew the Tracer 9GT was for me as soon as I tried one out, there were better bikes but at considerably greater expense (talking to you, BMW). The Suzuki GSX R1000GT+ looks like it's close & I will get to find out later this month when I try out a friend's bike once it's delivered, but I already know that the Tracer's MPG will be a lot better & I suspect that even if I'd had the choice the Tracer was still going to be my choice.
Looks like Yamaha are replacing the split screen with a single larger TFT for 2023. I could be tempted to try and retro-fit one to my 2021, would really help it out I think!
@@RyanJamesODonnell I wouldn't be so sure. It might be a new screen for 2023, but after looking at the pics IMO this was just a Test Mule for the adaptive cruise control & it just happened to be on a T9gt. The screen shown looked really odd, but time will tell.
@@dumptrump3788 I would suggest road testing is well past the point of just needing a bike to carry the kit. Both the screen and the radar are pretty neatly integrated suggesting pre-production.
Plus, Yamaha don't really have a more suitable bike for adaptive cruise control?
I thought the same thing about the T9 and settle on a Versys 1000.
fjr 1300, just saying
Heck yeah, glad to see the Tracer 900. I have the 2015 FJ-09 which is what the early version was called in the states. Honestly if you don't mind skipping out on a little bit of tech, the 2015 can usually be bought at a good bargain in comparison. Only thing I will say is I did not like the stock fueling, had to fix that asap.
I started on an 2017 FJ-09 last year, because i got one for cheaper then the base MT-09 naked bike. lol
@Yammie Noob papa Yam! You missed the SPORT Touring king! A TURBO BUSA! crushing miles at light speed while enjoying everything in a blur of comfort!
Triumph Rocket III part 2 ever going to happen?
My first new bike was a '92 VFR750F with the greatest one up platform for long distance cruising. Then a '95 BMW R1100RS for more comfortable pillion without the weight of the RT. Currently on a 2002 ST1100 that had 19k on the clock when purchased 4 years ago. A shaft drive is almost requisite for 2000 plus mile trips with a pillion. I haven't been on the Aprilia Tuono to date, but the BMW R1250RS is a much better platform for crushing miles and still experiencing the elements than the RT. The Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX is let down by poor throttle response and the chain drive. Honda needs to get back in the game. I know you are generally haters, but for Iron Butt runs and long road trips on secondary highways, sport touring bikes keep you comfortable without the excessive comforts of touring rigs. When your bike has reverse, it's time for a convertible.
Obviously everyone loves his own bike. I wouldn't comment but sport touring is my thought of living. I got into bikes since birth as a pillion in my cousin's Honda 900 rr and I was missing it until my 42.
3 years ago I bought a used Gilera Runner 125 2stroke ( upgraded to 180cc) and one year after a new Citycom 300cc .
Smooth and comfortable but still not satisfied. Being toooooo old and inexperienced for a sport bike ( like yammy says ) I wanted something comfortable for 2 persons and luggage,
cheap yet bulletproof and reliable regardless mileage, needing almost "no" maintenance, easy driven and rider friendly, BUT fast like hell with sport dna .
So , for 8 months now and lots of km (Europe) I own a Yamaha Fine Jet Rocket 1300cc first gen with ABS and believe me when I say it I have a "selfish" last wish to get buried with my beast when I grow older. I deeply know you missed her in your vid because it's the 8th secret forged
"One to rule them all "!
PS : I dare you to ride one for just a day in and out the city and come back with commentary 😎
Felt that opening stereotype in my soul more than I should have.
Ducati Multistrada all the way for me! Especially with 170hp it capitalizes the Sport and kicks butt on the touring.
Nice try with that list though. 😁
LAUGHS IN GSX-S100GT
Represent!
Im looking out for sports touring bikes. My choices are GSX 1000GT, Tracer 9GT and NINJA 1000 SX (YOU MISSED THIS).... IN WHICH I REALLY LIKE THE GSX! But Still confused with 1000SX because of great handling and power delivery... and Tracer just because of sweet lime CP3 triple sound-da-re-nos.
Did you end up getting a bike? Which one? I'm currently looking at all 3 same bikes. Thank you.
No one talks about the 1000sx and it's so weird
I know it's got nothing to do with the topic but I just got my A2 license!!!!!
Jokes on you Yam. Nothing beats the smell and look of a fresh cut lawn.
Vite for the Yamaha FJR1300👍🏼😎
how was the VFR1200 Crosstourer left out here? 😅
or the 800. that v4 engine is glorious
@@user-jt6nw6wm5q Yea, I have the VFR800, I fucking love it.
However at the level of sport touring bikes here the 1200 fits in better. the 800X Crossrunner is more ADV anyways.
good for you, nice choice! well then maybe the vfr1200f would be the even more sports tourer
Im hoping the Honda NT1100 will be in the US soon. I'd like to give it a try. Looks like more of a touring bike vs a sport touring, like a baby Goldwing.
It is the best 'sport' tourer imo. Bought one, now waiting for delivery
Yes the NT1100 is a nice balanced package. I am hoping they come to the US and I have the $$ to buy one.
I agree.
I guess the NT 1100 is the new gl500, a baby goldwing... a lighter tour? But with 100 horsepower. Lol
No s1000 xr 😱
I am riding a 2019 KTM Super Duke GT and I live in the US, so I think they are available. Perhaps they meant the 2022 model isnt available yet.
2019 was the last year KTM brought the SDGT over to North America. They have not brought it over since.
I agree, I have a 19 SDGT, great bike! I believe they stopped selling this model in the US 2020.
Yam mentions MV agusta in these lists like it's a bike regular people have even seen in person. I don't think I've ever seen one on the roads, ever. Had it not been for these lists, I wouldn't even know the company exists.
Most likely sighting is a mistaken BMW: The pistons are angled up on the MV if seeing 'opposed' twins. The rest of the plastomod for the last 30 years, who knows.
I even got one in the garage…
Lol the Suzuki GT is in here but no Kawasaki z1000sx 😂 though i understand the other given option from kawa is way cooler but also MUCH more expensive! I got the Suzuki GT myself and i love this bike! Nice collection of bikes in this VID @Yammie Noob
BMW has the R1200RS, S1000XR and F900XR as Sport Tourers and you chose to name the 1200RT which is an absolutely not a sport tourer but a touring bike together with the K1600GT.
I felt that comment about rolling the dice. My current daily developed a problem with the engine deciding to die during movement. Nothing like a bike trying to kill you while passing semi trucks to get the blood flowing. Lol
Great ending with classical music....👍👍👍
I just bought a 2000 Triumph sprint st 955i and couldn't be happier
I am currently eyeing cf gt650. Tried it not too long ago and it felt just right (currently riding a fz1s 2007)
I got a Kawasaki Versys 650 LT for a daily driver and love it. Gets 250mi per tank of gas and is faster than most cars. Also very comfortable.
Versys 1000 for me, the ADV/ST that rarely gets mentioned but it is a nice bike even if a bit over priced
Man, that intro hit so hard as I wait to take delivery of a Suzuki s1000-GT+ and browse heated grips...
Torino pizza rolls? When you're hungry you're not you. Grab a Snickers bar...
The Super Duke GT is only on temporary hiatus, will probably be back next year on the new super duke platform. I demoed one a few years back, it's literally just a super duke with more wind protection and a bigger tank, same insane torque monster motor and giant supermoto personality. One that belongs on the list. Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX, the H2-SX's little (and significantly less expensive) brother, very similar specs to the Suzuki, but slightly cheaper.
good info tqvm
“Sport Turing motorcycle”
-Yammy
I'm 24 with a Yamaha FJR, guess I'm old at heat.
Thanks for your video :)
I would put the RT squarely in the touring category. I think you mean the RS.
Nice video Yam.
I saw one of those MV Agustas at a bike meet I went to a few weeks back and it was beautiful. I LOVE the look of the brutale and if I had the money for a brand I don't know where to get serviced and looked after it'd be the brutale.
I've been watching your videos, and apart from the excellent writing talent - which, as a writer myself, I envy - I've noticed you use J.S. Bach (especially) and W.A. Mozart (as in this video) as your background music. Evidently, if I noticed, I love this music. But, I was just wondering the motivation behind your choice. Are you also a classical music lover? I'd love to find out - from one Ducatista to another.
It's not copyrighted
I'm 25 and just got into motorcycles, haven't had a sports bike at all. And I felt attacked when he said that I'm old for wanting a sport touring bike LOL. Everyone I meet tells me that I'm to mature or old for my age LOL
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Big papa yams
Your hilarious!! You should do a open mic!!
Pappa Yam, if you manage to come to Spain, i have a superduke 1290 GT for you to test. just got mine this week....and its bananas!!!
Since when was the gold wing a sport touring bike, I thought it was established it’s just a touring bike. There’s nothing about it that handles well. Pretty much the equivalent to a bike frame Harley bike
I have an Kawasaki 1000SX and i love it. I'm not old. Never will be!!
i have ridden the GSXS 1000GT and i love it.
Is it me?
Or did he say 26K for the upgraded BMW 1250rt, but the video displayed 29K.
Must be the Dealer Appreciation Fees....
If you love motorcycles these are the best of times. Even Harley coming around.
Lol, my Dad had an ‘81 GL1100, he put like 160k miles on it before he sold it sometime in the 2000s.
I'll never understand why he bashes sport tourers. I ride the crap out of my FJR all over the west. I've seen and experienced so much on it, all while being able to rip around curves, fully loaded with a massive amount of gear. I have no desire to break my pelvis riding up and down trails, and I want to go fast. The sport touring segment is the best thing going, and has been for a long time. Everyone is buying adventure tourers, but few are riding them off road. The only advantage to those is a slightly more comfortable seating position for longer rides. But they suck for anyone under 5'10".
As a young poor how can I modify my bike for a long weekend ride. Cost comparison video little comfort mods bags maybe I’d watch that
No NT1100?
Of all the videos to NOT include the Hayabusa 😂
wow the VO initially made me feel really bad about clicking on this but yeah it's cool.
I didn't start riding ST bikes until I was 35. 😂
The Duke GT was available in the US. No one except my uncle bought one.
Yammie i liko some gloves on your stor but i live in europe an i am assking if you send it to europe
Tracer 9 seems perfect other than that price.
You can get an older one for fairly affordable pricing
@@theunknown1555 true. I'm just saying, it's basically an MT-09 with touring suspension, a windscreen, and some gizmos. For an extra $5k.
@@MrMountain707 - Me? I am not included… And I don't think you have seen the to bikes. They look way different. It is like saying the CT125 is basically the same bike as the GoldWing.
@@Gismo3333 odd statement. The CT and Goldwing share nothing. The MT09 and Tracer 9 share the same engine, transmission, tires, wheels, front suspension travel, swingarm, the list goes on.
FJR?
I'm deeply hurt.....
It, like the C-14, is not "latest and greatest" and the instrument cluster is dated. I own a 2013 FJR. First year with cruise control. YAAY!
HAH jokes on you yam I’m watching this at 9:16
Now the Moto Guzzi Mandello might be a solid option in this segment
I'm pretty sure the classical music is included because it's public domain
Tracer 9 GT Baby! Take off the paniers and you can squid all day. She is still a wheelie machine
Radio Shack!!!! Damn I miss those
Nice vid Brah
Hey Yamm.. some of us can't stay 20s, if so I would be a vampire..
Really thought Hayabusa would be mentioned here.
For a sport-tourer?
@@johncasteel1780 yeah. Yammie has made jokes in the past about the versatility of the Hayabusa. But it has died down over the years.
Eeey Dear papa Yam! I know this is not a Sport Touring bike, but can you make a review of the honda hawk 11 2022?? It kinda looks cool, you know, that retro style.. Cheers my Yam!
I wanted chopper engine on a sporty bike ... Got myself a 2008 Buell XB12XT Ulysses... Exactly what I wanted. Although I sometimes miss a 6th gear ^^
I have been riding for almost 50 years, if you add in my dirt bike time pre old enough to get my Bike lic. so your opening commentary got my attention :-). Prick lololol. Its funny I am finally looking for a sport touring bike, Late Bloomer, the retro Café Racers are very appealing to me for that reason however I decided to look at a real sport touring bike, how come they all look like adventure bikes, back in the 80's a sport touring bike was the sport bike with different handle bars for a more upright seating position, frig the new sport touring bikes they are all fugly, but not the Kawasaki its nice. I'm going to buy an old 1984 900 Ninja, that is a nice sport touring bike, HP, Yawner.
The right answer is the Ducati supersport s
So I knew I was going to get roasted but I had to watch to hear my sweet sweet tracers name being called 😅
Good job Yammie hammie.
Why did you guys choose a Goldwing for the example of a “big, fully dressed, American cruiser?”
Because why is Brazil, India, China and Thailand, where HD's are made, any more "American" than Japan where Goldwings are made?
1) Because it’s an American company.
2) Because the overseas assembly plants were for the purpose of market-penetrating FDI (same reason Goldwing’s used to be made in Ohio, then import laws changed)
3) Every manufacturer sources parts from overseas, so it’s all about the brand’s homeland when it comes to “where a bike is from.”
Stop being a nob.
@@altortugas5979 I base on where it's built. Our most recent car is a Toyota after a lifetime of fords, because Ford doesn't make sedans anymore and Toyota is one of the most made in America cars. It's about where the manufacturing jobs are, not where the home office is.
John Ridley, well that just makes the point for my initial post, since all Goldwings are made in Japan now. As to your point, yeah, it might make you feel better about Toyotas, them being largely assembled in the US, and that’s great and all, but that doesn’t make it an American car or Toyota and American company, at least not in my opinion.
Like, Mexican Coca Cola might taste better because it’s made with cane sugar instead of corn syrup, but Coca Cola is still “American,” even when it’s hecho en Mexico.
My complaint about the tracer and I'm actually trading out for a tiger soon. Is that the saddlebags make the back end puppy dog ass and wiggle
With the free play in the hardware
Why? How does this happen? Seems like a big deal
It is probably you that make the bike wiggle. Are you hold your handlebars to hard, and not holding on to the bike with your legs? Try not holding the handlebars when wind hits the bike, or you get passed by big trucks. It is probably you that wiggle, not the bike.
Or you should trailer your bike to a mechanic and have it fixed. Because then it is something terrible wrong with your bike. And it can fall apart any second.
BMW s1000 xr is all I got to say come on people do some research
I'm mad that you called me out word for word in the intro like that.
Sure, you get your travel bags, which is nice, but you don’t get twin horns 🎺🎺 like you do on the Interceptor!
The best sport tourer is an adv bike. Ok now that I've watched the video, I see that you have my bike, the tiger 1200 in the mix. Bueno.
Then you need to check your ears, and then watch the video again.
@@Gismo3333 I heard it clearly.
Lol...1:57, "It is essentially a German luxury sedan...," I wonder if the Benz image was conscious or unconscious, TEEHEE!
national treasure
Yamaha FJR 1300?
I found the idea of an aging Kyle to be hilarious, I truly wonder instead of water does he make his oatmeal with monster energy? Does he use Mountain Dew as a sweetener instead of honey?
No Ninja 1000 SX, Ducati Multistrada Pikes Peak, or BMW S1000XR? 🤔
Actually you can buy the 1290 GT in the states my friend has one lol