Interested in Sport Touring Motorcycles? Everything you need to know
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CHAPTERS:
0:00 Intro
1:12 History
3:13 FJ1100
4:50 BMW K100RS
6:00 Baggers
7:30 ADV Bikes
10:25 Kawasaki Models
12:15 Yamaha Models
13:50 BMW R1250 RT
14:30 Ducati Models
16:21 Final Thoughts - Komedie
I just bought my first bike yesterday 1995 Honda shadow and I already tipped it over 💪😂
Nice. Get it out of the way early😅
The second thing one should buy are crash bars, right after buying the bike. Will save you money many times over.
How TF did Pappa Yams make a Sport Touring video and not discuss the Busa?
Fr, next thing you know, he's gonna make an Adventure Bike list without the Busa🙄Defunct Channel
Actually a great sport touring bike with a set of luggage. Not even joking
It's still too raw.
Great point!
ZX14R too!
I feel like the H2 SX should be talked about a bit more in sport touring. It's a 200 hp missile but it's comfortable, smooth, and has some of the best electronics packages available.
same about the Super Duke GT, It's a super duke with bigger fuel tank and luggage.
ZXR1400???
H2 SX SE or Gold Wing Touring? Same price.
The price 28K is not justified. other than a supercharger. the tech in same as in Tracer GT+. not sure why they charge 10K for screwed impeller.
@@jaythomasni I wouldn't spend that amount on any motorbike, great point..
Have been riding the sport touring category for 43 years. Whether you’re riding locally or on a long trip, it’s so much better if you don’t have to be a maintenance / money slave to a drive chain. If this category is something you’re considering, do yourself a huge favour and start by narrowing it down to the shaft drive bike choices. Currently Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha, BMW, and Moto Guzzi offer drive shaft choices.
What’s a good first bike in this class .. I see many Honda vfr800 and vtr1000f and Yamaha fjr 1300 ae
I'm absolutely settled in to the Sport Touring life with my Honda ST1300. I may go for a new Yamaha FJ1300 in a couple of years. Of course.... I'm a 47 year old Sport Touring Dad, so it all makes sense.
I bought an ST1300 a couple weeks ago and love it so far. I'm almost 51 but not a dad, my girlfriend wants a bike with a backrest but I'm a sportbike rider at heart.
I love my '07 FJR1300.. absolutely recommend.
@@raghnallmacaodh3220 Never had the FJR1300, Love the look of it, had the predecessor, the FJ1200, great bike..
I have a VFR1200. Try it out my guy.
The ST1300 is how I got to this video. It's an amazing machine.
My first bike was a VFR800 from 2002. Cool looking and sounding with comfort and fun to ride.
The VfR series is pure love. My dad runs a 1200f. It is a loud beauty
FJR for the win! Been riding sport tourers for yrs now…VFR, FZ1, Concourse 14, Ninja 1000, & my current bike a 2014 FJR 1300. You wanna keep riding, better make your s.o. comfortable…she’s tired of sittin on a 3” seat 😁
Im 27 I ride a 2014 Z1000SX (Ninja 1000). I mostly drive it sporty. I've taken it on track. But I've also taken it on long trips. Really a great bike. Would recommend.
I want a Tuono V4 next tho
Bikes like the Ninja 1000SX or VFR800 definitely are probably the style of bike I should look at. The CBR650R and the Supersport 950 are similar, but are more faired sport standards in all reality, more upright then a 600 or 1000 super sport with more streetable power curves and gearing…
I love my 21' Versys 650LT. Not as fancy as the 22/23 model, but it's comfy for my hour long commute to work. It's nimble, quick, and I can still throw it around on the turns. Maybe I'll get a full size tourer later but mid size is a niche too.
As always, very entertaining and informative,thank you
Love my Vfr800, can definitely keep up with fast bois if you have some skill. And yes i have lower back issues from racing motocross in my teens...
Bought 2 years ago my '06 CBF 1000, no intention to replace, satisfying all my needs.
Yammi is making the Waifu pillow jokes to deflect everyone's attention from his Valentino Rossi pillow
Think this the earliest i ever been to one of your vids pappa yams. Love the channel.
The newest GSXS1000GT+ is a great bike too although it leans more towards the sport side but with solid touring capability still. Once I changed to a 190/55 rear tire and upgraded rear suspension and had front/rear adjusted for my weight, 2Wheel dynoworks ECU flash to unlock throttle restrictions, it became a really fun bike in the twisties now. It's light weight enough like the Ninja1000SX for people that still want to ride fast on weekends and do road trips every now and then.
The GSXS 1000GT is also more accessible due to its price. Although its 50hp less, Holy cow how would you ever need more than 100HP for touring? at 90hp, it's waay more than enough to pass most cars on the interstate. I'd always advocate for the GSXS 1000GT unless you have the cash to spare then definitely go for the H2 SX
After many hours of research and sleepless nights, I also decided to go with the 2024 GSX S1000GT+… It now has almost 3,000 miles and I have not regretted a single one of those miles. The longest ride a coworker and I took was 473 miles in a single day, she has the Kawasaki ninja 1000sx. About halfway through the ride we traded bikes. I rode her ninja, she rode my s1000gt+. Long story short, at the end of the “test ride” she did not want to give my bike back lol. I found the s1000gt+ to be a very comfortable bike, my last bike was a CBR1000RR super sport, so that might have something to do with it.😅
I have several bikes but ride my fjr1300 almost daily. Might eventually get a big adventure bike when my off road skills improve, but they are kinda ugly to me. The fjr is a sleek looking, comfortable, rocket ship loaded with all of the electronic amenities you could want.
I have a 2004 BMW R1150RT and love it. I bought it 10 yrs ago. It now has 46K miles, 19 yrs old it still looks new, rides great, very comfortable, handles great. It has been very reliable except for in tank fuel pump took a crap. Not fun to change out but doable. While in there you will replace all the hoses and filter.
I had the '05 1200RT, it did the same thing.
What about KTM? The 1290 Super Adventure S and R and the SuperDuke GT are perfect examples of ADV and Sport Touring. Great video Pappa Yam!
Stopped watching once I realized he wasn't going to mention KTM
The sport-touring category was created by a single motorcycle and it was not a Yamaha. It was the BMW R100RS, all the way back in 1976.
I concur with your accurate observation. 👍
“ONE OF THE FIRST”
The 80s ad with the Yamaha Venture Royale brought back memories. What a great bike!
Loving the Super Tenere pictures!
Sport-Tourer / Adv-Tourer (Winners) =
FJR 1300
R 1250 RT / RS
Tiger 1200 Rally / GT
Ninja 100 SX / Versys 1000
Multistrada V4 / V2
Honorable Mention :
H2 SX SE
Supersport 950S
Hayabusa / VStrom 1050
K1600 GT
Goldwing Tour Airbag AT 7-speed DCT
Tracer 9 GT
👏👏👏
Just get a gen 1 busa. Maybe even a turbo one. Perfect for touring lol
I got my Ninja 650 as my first bike and love the more relaxed position as opposed to the more aggressive position of strict sport bikes.
One thing it seems nobody ever mentions about the FJR is that it burns 87 octane..
My 22 ninja 1000sx has great road suspension. Great all around road bike
My insurance considers my MT10 a sport touring bike and that’s all that matters
with the Current Things, My CBR1000R-RR SP identifies as NT1100 the sport touring bike. The difference is like a man and a women or night and day
You missed out one model, Kawasaki Kawasaki 1400GTR, a.k.a Concours 14. This is a sport tourer that is leaning more on the touring aspect.
still fast af.
FJ1200 the velvet sledgehammer!
I can't believe you did not include the KTM 1290 super Adventure S. , The KTM, in my opinion, is the best of them all. I fitted my 2020 KTM SAS with a 17" front wheel and put Metzler Sportec M9 RR rubber on it. The bike is absolutely phenomenal and puts other sports touring bikes to shame. I put a Rottie stage 5 on it and it's has tons of power and most importantly torgue. It is comfortable as hell and fits my 6'5" frame.
Hey hey stop calling me out on the versys LoL 🤣🤣🤣 much love to you yammienoob
I literally needed this. Looking to upgrade my ninja 650 (which btw, is unironically an actually good sport tourer for its size)
The picture under the headline GO THE DISTANCE is a Honda NT1100. A very competent sport/touring machine that is not sold in USA. I have one and it fits the sport/touring mold nicely.
Murps bar risers makes the N2K riding position perfect.
I started on a Versys 300x and beside it being a 300 I love it. Need an upgrade though.
@@xb5883 ill have to try it
I have commented about my ninja 300 before and I thought I wanted a zx6r but after my time in the military I have a herniated disk annnnnndndddddd the sport touring Versys is looking reeeaaaaalllll nice now. haha go dad bikes!
What i got from your video is that the yamaha super tenere xt1200z is a great bike. You just showed some photos but it is what it is
I realize they’re not as popular on our side of the pond, but I absolutely love my GSX1250FA….comfy…GOBS of torque (admittedly the HP is not amazing), and handles well….it doesn’t necessarily excel at any one thing, but it’s inexpensive, indestructible, and (IMHO) sexy as hell. A little surprised it didn’t get a mention. But, to each their own.
OG Blackbird 1100xx is a gem
Best sport touring bike for $2500 is the 98-07 Katana 600/750
Got mine for 500
@@jiggajhood mine is mint so I paid $1500 but yeah they are great
@@adamcroteau8711 mine is customized
Aprilia Futura v-twin, old but nice can be had with hard cases my choice.
The triumph sprint RS 955i and sprint ST 1050 are incredibly comfortable, fast and have alot of torque. I got one for $2000 a few months ago and i love it. Also i cant afford a h2 SX lol
I've owned both the Tracer 9 (2015, back when it was the FJ-09), and the Ninja 1000SX (which I currently own). The difference between them is substantial--I'd say the FJ-09 was definitely a sports-tourer, while the 1000SX is literally a sports bike with added creature comfort and a sensible engine. My FJ-09 I could ride for 1-2 hours without much discomfort (although wind protection was not great, even with a touring windshield), while my current Ninja is not really that comfortable if going at +60 mph for a long time, as the riding position is more aggressive and the wind, while it's not buffeting, does strain your neck given that you're constantly against a stream of it. The clip ons are also quite low, even after adding ~4-5cm bar raisers.
Overall, if you're getting into sports-touring, try to test ride before, as even within this same category, similar bikes will feel much different after 1-2 hours of continuous riding. I've also had an ADV (KTM 790 Adventure), and it was similar to the FJ-09, although I did feel I needed a larger engine to be comfortable in US freeways. I'll probably change my Ninja 1000SX soon, given that it's not very comfortable for longer rides, even though I love its engine (SO SMOOTH!)--this time I'll go with a bike that's more designed for touring and not just slightly modified for it. I'd love to own a Goldwing and go full dad but I kinda want to go for an in-between my mid-sized, ~200kg bikes before I go full 450kg behemoth lol.
I get to ride a 2008 ZZR600. Its carbed but that's a great bike no lie. It's fast too.
I would love a rockform mount, too bad they don't make cases for the a53.
Thank you for the informative video. Any thoughts about the Suzuki v storm 800DE? It's labeled under adventure bike but seems to me more of a sport touring, does it make sense?
I'd say the DE is a bit more oriented to offroad - it has the 21-inch front wheel. For sport touring on the street you don't need anything more than standard 17" wheels.
cudos for the NT1100 in the thumbnail, geat bike :3
I love my 2008 K1200s for sport touring and can also take it to the track a few times a year. I'm too old and tall to ride a sport bike for any length of time, but my k12s is a bit cramped for more than 5 hours of riding a day. 540lbs, 160+ hp, shaft drive. The only thing I'd replace it with is a Busa but apparently I need to check out the new Ninja100sx or just buy a track bike to satisfy that itch. Streetfighter V4s or MT10?
My 2008 Yamaha fz6s is cool too 🥲
Hey Yam, what about the Ducati Supersport!
Well honestly if I did something besides my current cruiser a sport touring sounds pretty good. I may have bike being too tall problems though as I have a 28 inch inseam
Yammie do u have any idea if the Tracer 7 and 7GT will come to the US?
I'm curious about this papa Yam, how do you make a SPORT touring video without holding ANY of the kings of speed bikes in the last 20+ years. H2SX/SE, the BUSA, or the CBR1100xx Blackbird?
👍 good video
I'll stick to my old 2009 CBF1000A with adjustible touring windscreen and hard luggage (38Lt Trunk and 22Lt saddlebags) on the back.
If I spent 95% of my time on paved roads however, I want that remaining 5% to be pleasant. Is an adventure bike worth the trade-off?
Yammie not only missed the 'Busa {although the riding position is WAY too leaned over to really qualify) but he also miss the Ducati SuperSport 950s!
The Tracer 9GT, which is a great bike, may bet lighter than my FJR1300 but I'd like to see you try to leave me in the twisties on it!
Not. Happening. 😉
Technically Honda’s CBR650R could be deemed a lightweight sport tourer. The ergonomics are basically identical to a VFR800 Interceptor or a Supersport 950, it’s just smaller and quite a bit lighter then the VFR… although faired sport standard may be a better overall description of that bike
@@sleeper.simulant7327 I hear you. The 650 class is generally not considered in the Sport Touring class though although I agree that a bunch could qualify.
The GS will always be the swiss army knife. The king of dad bikes imo
BEEN asking for yrs to hear what you gotta say about Honda cb1100! It's a sport touring that I of road a LOT lol
Easy : it’s basically a Suzuki. Proof : not so well finished, cheap in the category, basic. But… does anyone need more ?
The real question is why chose it over any used FJR, better in every way ?
The only complaint I have about my Ninja 1000 is the horrific seat. An aftermarket seat is a must.
No love for the Honda? What are your thoughts about the Honda version?
Should I buy a ST bike or just a good naked and add some bags and a windscreen? Aesthetics are better and I think that they are more fun to ride.
When you're feet are below not in front of you your controlling the bike 😊
The goldwing is a FAST and FLICKABLE sportbike with cruiser makeup on. The BEST sport tourer out here dam near 💯💯
The goldwing is categorised as a touring bike, I think.
@@scottyang9016 I have owned one for almost 2 years and 15,000 miles. I can say confidently that it rides MUCH more like a big sport bike then anything else. It may LOOK like a tourer but it is ALL sportbike bones 🔥💯
I’ve got what I consider in my biased opinion to be the best sport touring bike out there, the BMW K1600. 160hp fastest bagger on the planet, handles like it weighs 300 lbs less than it is, and comfortably eats up miles in luxury 👍🏻
I have the SUV of motorcycles . . . the 2015 Yamaha FJ-09 . . greatest bike ever.
Kawasaki Ninja 1000sx Ftw ❤
Tracer 9 is a very good bike 🚲
My trusty old Tiger 800 XRX is all the touring bike i need. Sure, the 1200 is more comfortable but it's also heavy as balls. Meanwhile my 800 just rrrrriiiiips
No moto guzzi v100?
Ninja 1000sx mentioned!
IMHO if it doesn't have shaft drive, it's not really a Sport Touring bike :)
I ride an FJR1300
But my K1200R Sport cost $4500. Dyno 154 HP at rear wheel, shaft drive, water cooled does 171mph never breaks.
Nice
I'm 53 and still in denial 😂
I'm preparing for my A2 licence. I've got my eye on Tracer 7 GT and Triumph 660 sport. Pros and cons please. Discuss...
Tracer
@@Synthetic-lt4edTraining is next week. Looking at the tiger 850 now.
Depending on the condition of the roads where you live, adv bike wins if you have rough roads. As an added bonus the plush suspension stops you from banging your crotch into the tank on big pot holes. Comparing R1200RT to Super Tenere.
Hey there yamms what kind of money can I spend on a Kawasaki 650 versa
On Ducatis, you forgot to mention the actual Sports Touring bike, the 950 SuperSport!
Is the GSX-S1000GT considered a sport tourer? Gotta give Suzuki some love
It is sport touring and a great bike aswell. I have gsxs 1000f i just love it
Absolutely! The GSX-S1000GT+ is a WHOLE LOTTA sport tourer for $14,100 + $590 destination & freight (2023 USD pricing), and sport touring is SPECIFICALLY what Suzuki designed the 1000GT+ to excel at.
I've been eyeing up one as I own a gsxs 750 and looking to get something for the wife & I, they seem like great bikes.
No sport tourers nowadays, only awful adv, and some exceptions like the Hayabusa, but i miss the old great sport touring bikes, zzr1100, tomcat, the honda blackbird, vfr, bmw k1300s, zzr1400...
Is Quad Lock a knock off Rock Form?
I actually had an fj1100 sold it and got a Ducati Monster and Diavel 😂
I know you say dont start on a 600 but in the eu you can get the r7 in 35klw/48hp does it the really matter can it be used as a beginner bike
Fah Que Yams I like Tea!!
And you know Hil Dog!!
No mention of the BMW R90s (1975!) or the BMW R1250 RS and XR1000? And no I am not a BMW fan boy.
(I did have a 1988 Suzuki GXF1000 Katana with hard bags). And no mention of the Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello? Maybe you can get your buddies at Euro Cycle to hook you up. I'd like to see that test. Maybe not a H2 but your'e not younger either. (Gasp! He didn't go "there" did he?!!)
The advantage of the ADV bikes are, it's a little easier to keep your license, you can carry all the junk, er, luggage you want and they have enough protective bars to keep your insurance rates and blood pressure from going up if it falls over in a parking lot. The sport tourers can't carry as much if you want to maintain a certain style ( especially demanded by euro bikes) and requirment of a longer inseam is less.
When are we gonna see the resting place of the Yammie turbo busa??
Haggard Hillary ❤️
would you consider the ducati supersport 950s a sport touring motorcycle?
I have a 2018 supersport 939 (essentially the same bike as the 950. same frame, geometry, seat, tank, 937cc motor). WIth the ducati luggage, heated grips, and touring screen the 939/950 SS qualifies as a sport touring bike, although Ducati has referred to the bike as an "everyday sportbike" whish is a pretty good description. It has some quirks if you haven't ridden one: mirrors are not great, no cruise control (don't care personally) like most sport tourers, and the bars clamp your fingers against the tank at full lock. several companies sell shims of various thickness to put under the riser/ clip ons to fix the tight finder clearance. I hace15mm shims and they don't look too wierd. Bike is quite comforatable with footpegs lower and more forward than my previous bike a speed triple. Would like a mainstand like a multistrda has but with limited ground clearence and the catalytic converter underneath you can't have everything.
the main complaint with the K100 bikes was the bad vibration felt through the handlebars at 4K - 4.5K.
My memory is that the K75 series was ultimately more popular.
Is a Sport Touring ok for my “dad” back?
i approve
I ride a triumph sprint 1050 GT, and i'm absolutely gutted that they dont make these bikes anymore.
2017 TTSE here and the only other bike I could imagine owning would be a triumph track bike
PAPA YAMS
Plz do a garage tour
I’m such a dad. I ride a Super Tenere and a VFR.
So what happened to the Ducati?
Still in-denial aging fastboy here, but starting to hope there's a Goldwing between me and the grave. I'd say RT1250R but every time I see one of those beige ones it reminds me of my grandma's Buick. Still, first manufacturer that comes out with a seat blowing cold air directly onto the back of my balls is likely to get my money, even if it looks like one of those fuglyass ADV battle droids.
Indian has a cooled seat
I tour on a Triumph Street Scrambler 900. Gonna ride that babe across the U.S. one day.
Yammer, why do Police Dept love riding RT and Concourse?? (Note I’m from California)
Honda super blackbird boi