Dating The Krugersdorp Cult Killer / Wide Awake Podcast EP. 24

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  • čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
  • In this weeks episode of the Wide Awake Podcast I spoke to Marizka Coetzer about how she went from a journalist that was covering the Krugersdorp Cult Killings to dating one of the murderers. Get ready because this episode is wild!
    Krugersdorp is a small mining town in South Africa. Between 2012 and 2016 11 murders took place. The murders were carried out by a group called Electus Per Deus Which means Chosen By God. These murders are known as the Appointment murders and the satanic murders.
    The leader of Electus Per Deus was Cecilia Steyn.
    Cecilia managed to convince a group of devout christians that she was a former high-ranking witch. She mesmerised them with her stories of the ritual abuse she’d seen and endured, and the danger she faced because she’d fled the Satanic Church. She directed her followers to slaughter 11 people, telling them they were performing God’s work. But Steyn’s real motives were revenge and financial gain.
    You might be thinking, how did she manage to convince this group of people to carry out these horrific murders on her behalf?
    Krugersdorp is home to many fundamentalist Christians who believe that Satan is an ever-present threat to their community, particularly their children. They’re constantly on the lookout for signs of occult influence, and certain aspects of popular culture - including Harry Potter, Spider-Man and even Santa Claus - are condemned. It’s in this environment that Steyn flourished.
    Once Electus Per Deus was up and running, the self-proclaimed ex-witch initiated her reign of terror by orchestrating several bloody slayings in 2012. With their occult overtones, they were swiftly dubbed by the police and media as the ‘Satanic Murders’.
    More murders occurred over the next four years, but the police were unable to find any suspects. Electus Per Deus’ activities in Krugersdorp culminated in May 2016 when they took 3 more lives. These murders were called the ‘Appointment Murders’. But their killing spree was about to come to an abrupt end.
    Timecodes
    0:00 - Intro
    3:12 - The Krugersdorp Cult Killers
    34:26 - Dating A Serial Killer

Komentáře • 237

  • @wideawakepodcast
    @wideawakepodcast  Před rokem +24

    Hey everyone. If you enjoyed this episode don't forget to Subscribe! ❤🙌🏼

  • @ashton-leedelport3427
    @ashton-leedelport3427 Před rokem +32

    I've lived in Krugersdorp my whole life and the fact that I've met every single person mentioned in this cases is so terrifying

  • @MConnoway
    @MConnoway Před 9 měsíci +4

    Large lesson from this story: Cults exploit vulnerable people and what we need as a nation is to focus on mental health and community building.

  • @callumfinaughty6779
    @callumfinaughty6779 Před rokem +40

    Red flags for her. Trying to give excuses for a serial killer. Great interview though.

    • @primera5022
      @primera5022 Před rokem +4

      She's still in love

    • @smokingjazz5067
      @smokingjazz5067 Před rokem

      She has more red flags than a comunist parade in china

    • @bradenharris8718
      @bradenharris8718 Před rokem +2

      Yeah. She def isn't far removed enough from this situation yet to really objectively look at this whole thing.

  • @gingertwala8474
    @gingertwala8474 Před rokem +30

    Shout out to algorithms...i've just discovered this gem of a channel.
    Btw-after this bizarre story aired, i never looked @Krugersdorp the same..This lady fascinated me then, she still does even now...great interview🥳🥳

    • @VadaVoo
      @VadaVoo Před rokem +2

      I agree. Thank you, algorithms. I saw the one on Tokkie and now here I am. You know a podcast is good when you will listen to people you've never heard of...talk about people/situations you've never heard of...and be thoroughly entertained. And Josh has such an honest, gentle way about him. He knows how to ask the right questions and let them share the information without constantly interrupting. And he showed so much compassion for Tokkie/Gabriel. I'm telling everyone about this channel.

  • @voertsek8404
    @voertsek8404 Před rokem +22

    Listening to this from Australia . This lady must wake up she is dealing with a psychopath . This man has got to her like he did with his victims .
    Yet she still has feelings for him proves to me she is in deep trouble without her knowing it . Just like an alcoholic never admitting he has a drinking problem.
    He now has control over her mind from prison. A very dangerous mental state to be in . Be careful he is going to bring u down .

    • @charmainepriestman915
      @charmainepriestman915 Před rokem +3

      If you watch the trial which is on CZcams you will realize that Leroux and his sister were 'victims too' there mother Marinda is one of the vilest humans there is

  • @benjaminblancopickett4902

    Great podcast it's usually u.k and USA podcast show up nice to hear from other parts of the world respect from South Wales valleys 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿👍💯

  • @personofinterest8731
    @personofinterest8731 Před rokem +53

    What about the terror and fear that the victims went through as they realised they were going to die? Then the pain? Why does this not come up in this conversation? Am I the only one feeling that basic empathy for the victims is missing (I'm about two thirds of the way through), and a total lack of humanity?

    • @yanodgh2656
      @yanodgh2656 Před rokem +16

      You are not the only one, this woman is sick, she could care less about the victims, she is too fascinated with the murderers, she even went as far as to date the one she clearly had no relationship with, just to hear him tell his sick stories and you can see she loved all the stories he and his friends had to tell, she could care less about the victims side and the trauma they left behind.

    • @kirastrikes8773
      @kirastrikes8773 Před rokem +6

      that's what happens when youre a journo you become so desensitized, youre no longer affected by heinous acts. truly sad.

    • @heatherwolmarans8287
      @heatherwolmarans8287 Před rokem +6

      She did say that she and another journalist split the story, one focused on the criminals, and the other focused on the victims. So her point of view is, in that respect, one sided, yes. It's a very unique story to listen to, because it shows that humanity, being a human being, is complex and complicated.

    • @selenem3384
      @selenem3384 Před rokem +1

      she has criminals in her family and her boyfriend is in prison...she is definitely sympathizing with the wrong side

    • @davekeyser2530
      @davekeyser2530 Před rokem +4

      I reckon if she knew them sooner she would've joined that cult and helped with the murders

  • @bandietklip7030
    @bandietklip7030 Před rokem +20

    Awesome podcast! You know what was scary? Zak was actually in my house as a financial advisor. This feeling sends shivers down my spine.

    • @panchovan617
      @panchovan617 Před rokem +1

      That is scary as hell. I actually used to book travel trips with Michaela - That is why this story was of interest to me. I left South Africa before they were arrested, but because of Michaela I kept following

  • @papas28mjoli
    @papas28mjoli Před rokem +9

    "I was like yhoooo" that South African vibe came out of her. Once a person says yhooo you must know they are shocked.

  • @pheladinare2876
    @pheladinare2876 Před rokem +11

    The heart is a deceiver and very very deceitful. All its desire leads to death. When you feeeeel something is real you have to consciously think through your mind if it is good or bad. The mind MUST rule in this case. Her relationship with the Leroux is bad in all factors.

  • @desireefarrett9286
    @desireefarrett9286 Před rokem +7

    I love this woman as I listen to her, but I fear that Le Roux is not "done with her" yet. Le Roux is not over for her. He is still controlling her, because she is still emotionally connected to him.
    All the best my darling.

  • @mphomoatshe9300
    @mphomoatshe9300 Před rokem +2

    You guys are doing really well.We appreciate it❤❤❤

  • @phoebedunn9203
    @phoebedunn9203 Před rokem +4

    Definitely need a part 2 !!!

  • @bongimkhize3471
    @bongimkhize3471 Před rokem +62

    Why is Marizka idolising Le Roux , it’s so weird 😐

    • @nathanvandermerwe
      @nathanvandermerwe Před rokem +15

      Yeah, making excuses for a cold-blooded killer.

    • @Bruc3dj
      @Bruc3dj Před rokem +1

      Because she can

    • @Pure_Boxing
      @Pure_Boxing Před rokem +5

      I reckon its got an element of loyalty attached to it. A member of a murderous cult probably needs to have such high levels of trust and loyalty to go against everything better they know.
      She might find that attractive as it could be used in a relationship sense

    • @selenem3384
      @selenem3384 Před rokem +3

      she is also all over tiktok lives doing this🤦‍♀️ maybe she is doing this for clout for her so called writing "career"

    • @r-aking2973
      @r-aking2973 Před rokem +1

      @@Bruc3dj k

  • @derrickhuman
    @derrickhuman Před rokem +3

    Great podcast Josh. Enjoying the channel more with every episode 💪🏻

  • @kiaraflanegan8138
    @kiaraflanegan8138 Před rokem +1

    Love what you're doing!
    I needed to see more of her side of the story, how interesting!
    Keep doing great things.
    Can't wait to see how you grow even greater. God bless.

  • @_theconcretembali
    @_theconcretembali Před rokem +1

    Loooove your interview style. I am hooked to these interviews.

  • @ZeboVideos
    @ZeboVideos Před rokem +8

    Is there a reason your podcast is just on CZcams, I would love to be able to listen to your show while driving, exercising etc. Great show

  • @kabelobrian4540
    @kabelobrian4540 Před rokem +8

    Everyday as I drive past Key West Mall, Netcare Hopsital near the flat that Cecilia used to rent and also its the same place and possibly room that my friend also occupied for two years, I am so shocked at the stories these walls experienced. I withdrew from the same ABSA atm's they withdrew the monies from, diven and lived in Sivewright street where one of the bodies were found inside the car. Its almost as if I could see everything when I passed these places after I watched the documentary. Its a scary but also eye opening experiece that such a calm peaceful appearing old town has experienced such horrors. Aside from all these bad stories though, its really a good quiet place to live in.

  • @shannonlynnkenny7952
    @shannonlynnkenny7952 Před rokem +2

    Amazing content, as always!

  • @stephanusbuys8051
    @stephanusbuys8051 Před rokem +5

    Just discovered your channel, awesome stuff man.

  • @worldtraveller3288
    @worldtraveller3288 Před rokem +30

    As a South African who moved abroad 18 years ago I sometimes sit and reflect on SA's relationship with christianity. Now that I have the position of looking at it from the outside I would say that SA has such a convoluted relationship with religion. So many want to do good by God but get so caught up and enamoured by so called prophets or even just church ministers (which ends up breeding more and more hate and divisiveness) that they end up losing the true meaning of religion (that of love, respect and acceptance). Perhaps this is because they need something to hold on to, the greater good, when faced with so many challenges in the country. I'm not sure if SA is still as conservative as it used to be, I hope not.

    • @chillyman7340
      @chillyman7340 Před rokem +1

      That is so true, left the church years ago in my late teens cause the stuff Christians were doing raised way to many eyebrows for me and these people believing in prophets and all sorts of weird stuff, hope life has been better wherever you moved to, lol I want to leave to.

    • @panchovan617
      @panchovan617 Před rokem +1

      I also left 7 years ago, but go there once a year. My family is not very religious or conservative, and at least in the cities, people seem a bit more open-minded. But there is still this underlying conservatism rooted in some fundamentalist Christianity that keeps popping up. And it is not limited to a certain race group. It is across the board.

    • @LydiaLamont-cy6tt
      @LydiaLamont-cy6tt Před rokem +1

      This is not a South Africa thing. It's all over the world

  • @nibz2319
    @nibz2319 Před rokem +1

    Amazing podcast as always !

  • @lclarissabeetge4793
    @lclarissabeetge4793 Před 4 měsíci +1

    I do understand Marizka 100%
    Le Roux & Marcel grew up with my kids Infront of my eyes. The mental conditioning was extremely heartbreaking 😢

  • @yanodgh2656
    @yanodgh2656 Před rokem +37

    This woman is sick! Listening to her is really disturbing! Listen to her, she asks the guy in front of her, why is he in prison and she laughs and say like dude why did you say that or do that, you would never have been caught, you can see she is fascinated about murders and that is what attracted her to him, the fact that he is a murderer and willing to speak so that she can listen to the fascinating stories that he has to tell and she evens admits to it, listen to her even saying she feel like she had so much power with them, because she could tell them who and who not to speak to and what not to say, you can see she don't care about the victims, but more of the killers instead, they fascinate her, it's a shame that you get people like her and reading thru the comments you can see alot of people looking up to her, it just shows how fucked up our society is!

    • @sketchyfade9276
      @sketchyfade9276 Před rokem +4

      “But I am not surprised! Even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.”

    • @k-v-d1795
      @k-v-d1795 Před rokem +5

      I agree. She is despicable.

    • @chopendop4100
      @chopendop4100 Před rokem +5

      Bro you hit the nail on the spot. I'm watching this in total disgust. This woman is sick

    • @nadinenagel8240
      @nadinenagel8240 Před rokem +5

      She also drank the water

    • @DJFish-dw4ee
      @DJFish-dw4ee Před měsícem +1

      How carelessly she speaks about burning someone- shocking.

  • @eagleeyeprintingdesigning5443

    Hi. Mariska was saying its something in the water, well its almost correct. Its called Lay line areas of where horrific things have happened in the past in and around Krugersdorp as far back as before the boerwar.

  • @ayandamametsa3562
    @ayandamametsa3562 Před rokem +27

    Tik Tok brought me here😊

  • @davealston3881
    @davealston3881 Před rokem +6

    Why is this person laughing and smiling when she relates stories of murder. She is weird.

  • @vonickles5033
    @vonickles5033 Před rokem +4

    She makes for a great interview, very fascinating

  • @richardk100
    @richardk100 Před rokem +2

    Excellent podcast, well done.

  • @monique_k8958
    @monique_k8958 Před rokem +5

    Ek love jou Marizka, jou happiness is aansteeklik ek het jou boek ook gelees was fantasties. Sien uit vir die volgende een!

  • @charmainepriestman915

    Love your podcasts!!

  • @robynvercetti9476
    @robynvercetti9476 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Bro i can losten to her talk forever. Shes so interesting and shes so articulate and sull of zest!

  • @rebornstudios2511
    @rebornstudios2511 Před rokem +1

    love the content!

  • @adelevrey6487
    @adelevrey6487 Před rokem +2

    Anonymous contacted me in 2013 to have a meeting regarding the 4 first murders. I contacted the investigating officer, and we had a meeting with anonymous, we recorded the meeting on audio and video. She knew exactly who the murderer's were and where they hid the weapons. They discussed everything in front of her - anonymous was afraid that she would be next. (Cecilia and them had a hit-list of people they still wanted to kill.) Nothing came of the investigation. In 2015 the killing spree continued, and I waited in anticipation for the killers to be caught, but 7 more people died, just to find out that they were all caught in the end...

  • @14thavenuehaunting
    @14thavenuehaunting Před rokem +2

    This was extremely interesting!

  • @thegoryguttersnipeshow3766

    Loving your channel, man! :) Entirely top class!

  • @jeromeokelly1839
    @jeromeokelly1839 Před rokem +4

    Growing brother. God bless you in abundance

  • @micheletotton9342
    @micheletotton9342 Před 10 měsíci

    Josh you are so good at this, really

  • @k6ix.603
    @k6ix.603 Před rokem +27

    I actually live in krugersdorp 😂this story is crazy tjoh, it hits so close to home, I've been driving, walking and living around every single place where these people used to do these things and I was completely oblivious until they started getting arrested 💁‍♀️👀

  • @tamrynmcgear3354
    @tamrynmcgear3354 Před rokem +18

    Please do a part 2, her perspective is so interesting.

  • @goal4097
    @goal4097 Před rokem +11

    She's TOTALLY honest, which doesn't exist these days. She saying like it is. She's is who she is, unlike most people!!!

  • @heatherwolmarans8287
    @heatherwolmarans8287 Před rokem +3

    I remember a case (a long, long time ago) about a couple from Krugersdorp who kidnapped and murdered schoolgirls, but I'd never heard this story!!

  • @FromTheFrontSeat
    @FromTheFrontSeat Před 9 měsíci

    This was actually one of the best true crime podcasts I've listened to in a while.
    I come from a conservative Christian background and I have always been fascinated by how quick people are to just believe whatever a religious leader says and justify even the most horrendous things in the name of religion.
    The way the human mind is able to rationalise things over time is fascinating.
    I really do pray for Mariska's safety and protection though. Le Roux was an abused and manipulated child who didn't deserve what happened to him. But South African prisons are the OPPOSITE of rehabilitation centers. Justice is being served, and I really hope he was joking about the stalking thing.
    Great podcast.
    I would love to see an interview like this with Dr Nandipha

  • @n8440
    @n8440 Před rokem +2

    Hi from krugersdorp my mother in law was in the krugersdorp hospital across the street at that time I was so shocked about this story im still shocked

  • @BlahBlah-gb6st
    @BlahBlah-gb6st Před rokem +27

    God: Mariska... I put a murderer on your road, what did you do with him?
    Mariska: I tried to have sex with him in prison

    • @wideawakepodcast
      @wideawakepodcast  Před rokem +4

      This got me! 😂

    • @BlahBlah-gb6st
      @BlahBlah-gb6st Před rokem +1

      @@wideawakepodcast love your podcasts btw. Always interesting, keep it up man

    • @wideawakepodcast
      @wideawakepodcast  Před rokem +1

      @@BlahBlah-gb6st thank you, I’ve got some incredible guests lined up next week!! Also, keep up the good comments.. 😂

    • @claudiasteyn2553
      @claudiasteyn2553 Před rokem +2

      Sick flippen women!!!

    • @selenem3384
      @selenem3384 Před rokem

      @@claudiasteyn2553 she probably does not care if he got AIDS in prison, as long as she can get famous from her books about him

  • @dantekramer3753
    @dantekramer3753 Před rokem

    sheeesh, what an intro xD im hooked

  • @6ixuare
    @6ixuare Před rokem +3

    Ever Since you brought Adam turner here😎 I made this channel my place to be🔥🔥❤

  • @marnaduplessis4242
    @marnaduplessis4242 Před rokem

    I know it's not your usual content, but can you do a video on the equipment you use?

  • @angiedillman7963
    @angiedillman7963 Před rokem

    Watching from Florida.. I thought we had all the crazies..What a story..

  • @bumblebee1.0
    @bumblebee1.0 Před rokem

    Wow, she is brutally honest!

  • @alta7777
    @alta7777 Před rokem +1

    Very good podcast

  • @peterkoutsis2780
    @peterkoutsis2780 Před rokem +3

    This is Children Of The Corn Story
    No smiles on a story like this

  • @selenem3384
    @selenem3384 Před rokem +3

    Mariska: you know, you know...
    People watching: no we don't know wtf

  • @nicoledutoit4968
    @nicoledutoit4968 Před rokem +1

    Awesome podcast☺great job frizkie marizkie😀

  • @user-li3xr1sj2m
    @user-li3xr1sj2m Před 17 dny

    Marizka start your own podcast !! We will all follow.😅

  • @kananelojama3637
    @kananelojama3637 Před rokem +9

    There’s something off

    • @nathanvandermerwe
      @nathanvandermerwe Před rokem +3

      There's more to this story. How the husband of the mastermind didn't know anything is beyond me.

    • @MrFyeart
      @MrFyeart Před rokem

      @@nathanvandermerwe police are trained in selective cogniscence
      A global epidemic
      I think it's part of their training
      'Look the other way-101'

    • @Greeny_isthegoat
      @Greeny_isthegoat Před 15 dny

      Small town. Small minds

  • @user-li3xr1sj2m
    @user-li3xr1sj2m Před 17 dny

    Marizka you are a great story teller and a great lady. Dont fall for BS again. You deserve a standup guy.

  • @sigourneybrand5695
    @sigourneybrand5695 Před rokem +2

    The biggest thing I would catagorically disagree with. is that victims get all the attention in the media. All these stories are almost always based around the killer and the victims are just supporting cast it feels like. We all know the killer names, but the victims so rarely are remembered or the first people associtated with the cases when they are brough up. This was a great interview, but she's defintly got rose coloured glasses on.

  • @sarahpeters_cpt
    @sarahpeters_cpt Před rokem +14

    Firstly this lady is a good speaker and story teller. It's enjoyable listening to her voice. But I must say it was quite disturbing watching this to see how interested or how invested she is 🫣

  • @luyandamadlanga3898
    @luyandamadlanga3898 Před 11 měsíci +1

    To think i was in the same school as Miranda(teacher) and Marcel(her daughter) is crazy😩. Now this explains alot about Marcels' behavior- she was always secluded from other kids by her mother.
    Lol. I thought that her not having friends made her focus on school, little did we know that there was something else to it.

  • @lukadoncicbrother661
    @lukadoncicbrother661 Před rokem +3

    if you like the podcast, like the video it helps spread the video in the algorithm, support the boy !

  • @hlengiwefeliciamabuza7354

    Truth be told krugersdorp is one scary and unsafe place, I literally cringe thinking about it!

  • @ryanroebeck8195
    @ryanroebeck8195 Před rokem

    I hear you

  • @elizabethwashburn5559
    @elizabethwashburn5559 Před rokem +2

    She's got such a gift..with her words I feel like I could listen to her for hours..I hope she has been able to continue her career goals because there aren't many people who have her ability [=

  • @ricardohendricks1711
    @ricardohendricks1711 Před rokem

    Saw this case on the casual criminalist. These people were monsters

  • @Dinklewurthe
    @Dinklewurthe Před rokem +2

    Rip to all the ukzn forensic students who got these mense as an assignment this semester 💀

  • @leslierabie9763
    @leslierabie9763 Před rokem +9

    OMG bring her back.. she is awesome. what you see is what you get!

  • @lawrencepetros4234
    @lawrencepetros4234 Před rokem +1

    Mariska mustve lived in Brakpan at some point in her life

  • @KeithMakank3
    @KeithMakank3 Před rokem +2

    Josh actually pronounces the "x" in Le Roux X'D

  • @buttermilkbob2370
    @buttermilkbob2370 Před rokem

    Bro i swear to god when i saw this in one of the short videos few days ago i thought it was kinda romantic and i was interested but now after listening to whole podcast, this is terrifying and so disturbing to listen. I can't!!! What is this woman thinking 😨

  • @siyandamagudulela4044

    Beautiful

  • @MrFyeart
    @MrFyeart Před rokem +1

    When he gets out of prison, where will she hide

  • @jpcohen1881
    @jpcohen1881 Před rokem

    Steve Hamilton would be a great episode to do

  • @piakonkol2329
    @piakonkol2329 Před rokem

    This is crazy 🙈

  • @YoutubeUser..
    @YoutubeUser.. Před rokem +5

    New York Times sent me here!

  • @JacquelinevanWyk0107
    @JacquelinevanWyk0107 Před rokem

    Well done. Loving your content. She has such a unique way of telling the story. Great Junro.

  • @lukadoncicbrother661
    @lukadoncicbrother661 Před rokem +8

    29:37 i think she meant astral projection, which is real and you should stay away from trying especially as a christian

  • @fionarykenberg8263
    @fionarykenberg8263 Před rokem

    Looooove mariske 💯❤️❤️

  • @jazzlee8291
    @jazzlee8291 Před rokem +2

    zero filter, I like her 😂 x

  • @arnevanderschyff143
    @arnevanderschyff143 Před rokem

    for the Algo!

  • @ryanmorgann
    @ryanmorgann Před rokem +2

    Please get a cop or ex cop on the podcast who dealt with a lot of crime.

  • @RachaelEager
    @RachaelEager Před 4 měsíci

    They had every reason to fire her. She was clearly in a relationship with this guy, physical touch or not.

  • @zubayrcharles9914
    @zubayrcharles9914 Před rokem +1

    Are they still dating ?

  • @derrickhuman
    @derrickhuman Před rokem

    Part 2 please 🙏🏻

  • @Ps114REXIVD
    @Ps114REXIVD Před rokem

    What is the name of the documentary?

  • @michellekleynhans9356
    @michellekleynhans9356 Před rokem +1

    I know her she a friend of my sister

  • @jeanmeyer8194
    @jeanmeyer8194 Před rokem +2

    At the end of the day he did what he did and there are consequeces

    • @selenem3384
      @selenem3384 Před rokem

      if they get babies, they are going to pass on murderer genes

  • @skobodabaws8946
    @skobodabaws8946 Před rokem +2

    Weird staff huh😅😂good one chana😅

  • @gabriellewhalley1328
    @gabriellewhalley1328 Před rokem

    Too sad

  • @lincolnmorton7905
    @lincolnmorton7905 Před rokem

    Yo she crazy, but really fascinating too

  • @marioleeson6472
    @marioleeson6472 Před rokem +1

    JOSH , i watched the Tokkie interview. have you reached out to Yolandi and Ninja they are in CPT saw them with the klopse, to see what their side of this is

  • @lukasvanderwesthuizen7893

    Kids dont drink and do drugs, Holy shit.....

  • @rielkesmit5742
    @rielkesmit5742 Před rokem +3

    I love mariska ❤️‼️

  • @IonizedComa
    @IonizedComa Před rokem +2

    Damn they even got it out for Harry Potter 💀
    Daniel Radcliffe must keep his gaurd up next time he comes to SA

    • @malumachado4561
      @malumachado4561 Před rokem

      It's not called the Woes Rand for nothing I guess.

  • @alistairejacobs6413
    @alistairejacobs6413 Před rokem +2

    Are you ready!!

  • @MK_MADNESS
    @MK_MADNESS Před rokem

    Tough to watch at points 🙃

  • @jeanmeyer8194
    @jeanmeyer8194 Před rokem

    But people lost their lives what about that they never got to live their lives

  • @robynvelthuysen5472
    @robynvelthuysen5472 Před rokem +1

    Seriously insane to hear and try to understand. Especially from a moralistic stand point. Sorry but this just seems like a emotional roller.coaster that got way out of hand.