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- čas přidán 25. 03. 2023
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I remember that 2 druids RPing in elwynn forest just roaring at each other while contesting their territory. And I imagine that this is the peak of druid in d4 for now
Are they talking about the ghost in elwynn? 😅
I do food reviews while I’m high on my CZcams channel, first mexican to hop on the tube & do This 🦅
@@SevenHunnid Bro that's some shameless self-promotion.
Druid in wow was the best rpg/mmo experience i had in my life back in the days.
@@SevenHunnid not to mention being "first mexican" is not a hook.
Druid looking really good, contender for top 10 best class for overworld adventuring and picking flowers.
We can't send Druid to collect meat because the animals would kill him otherwise.
Immersion
😂
and killing bosses in 11 seconds with wolfs
@@JacobLeexcap
Druid is perfectly balanced. We get to play as one of Necro's skeleton.
@@Choryrth IT ACTUALLY Does.
Each skeleton attacks for around 22 % And thats 1 basic skeleton, and he attacs twice has fast. Reapers with their special attacks hit for 120%
Lol dude
@@Choryrth druid 3 points in pets max damage is 30% 1 point in necro pets/toons/minions/slaves is 30% damge i think XD
@@ubermensch8417 Necro reap and arc leash should be the basis for every melee basic skill. They recover more and hit in a small aoe.
Bony splinter necro basic skill hit more than any druid and barb CORE without legendarys.
😂
I played a druid to level 20 and it was my first class so I had a good time, I just thought the bosses were supposed to be tanky. Currently playing necromancer and everything gets mowed down so fast. Unreal how bad the druid is lmao.
Same here, I tried archer after druid and it felt like a different game
I went from Druid to Sorceress. I thought the game was hard, then Sorceress I didn't even need to pay attention anymore
I played barb on the first weekend abd then tried out druid on the sexond. Druid felt better to play then barb already
@@Frozenkex what the fuck are you talkig about?
@@Frozenkex bruh imagine going through a game with a broken straight sword
Here's the thing: Somebody is out there enjoying druid so you know Blizzard gonna nerf it just in case.
Yea Nerf the Pig
They should nerf Necro and sorc to barb and druid, it felt way more fun to actually be challenged rather than screen clear with your eyes closed. Speed clearing will happen at the end no matter what but they need to stretch that survival period out a bit more to make the end power clear fantasy feel amazing like d2
@@CaecoAequitas1 it's funny cus rogue is the most dps on bosses lol
I think its more necro and sorc that are lcass balance disasters. They are way too powerful, druid barb and rogue are more in line with how the game should feel in my opinion
Druid is the new shaman lel
Asmongold just sitting there DYING of laughter at Raxx's disappointiled face is a whole mood
yeah same goes for me when he plays souls like games. XD
Well... I got as hyped as every old time druid player out there and when I saw that damage compared to the other classes I played I literally felt the same. I mean... 17.
The pylon druid guide fucking killed me, that shit was too damn funny. I hope the 17 dmg guy becomes a emote on the channel
Dude is a Diablo legend man; definitely worth watching him.
Name of the emote is gonna be Mr 17dmg LOL
Lol that's hilarious. That artillery shrine is so powerful you can be naked and still obliterate everything.
He makes a druid guide and he is not even lvl 25 and uses a power up shrine.. what a clown
i love it haha, love rax aswell he's a master blaster of d3
The silver lining with the Druid is I've never seen Asmongold laugh so hard on a video, so we have to thank Blizzard for giving us all that joy.
When you thought barb is bad and then druid said "hold my beer".
@DarmPNJ okay let's be clear.. you won't be farming legendaries in live at lvl 25. They drop 3x as often in the beta as well...
If we remove the druid legendaries and compare the best you have to offer on that class it will be beat in literally all scenarios by every other class. In comparison to the others, it's complete dogshit.
Also, barb is good. Just a little slow to come online. Legendaries or not.
Hold my bear
Many ppl consider Druid to be the weakest, while running poor builds, without proper legendaries, it's weird...Druid is strong and fun to play, though it heavily depends on legendaries which we'll not have during our leveling after release. So yes Justin is right, without legendaries he is probablt the weakest atm, sadly.
@@7128jml Barb its USELESS WITHout LEGENDARYS... and with 3 times more legendary affixes guess what HE STILL USELESS Outside thorn build barb cant even complete the beta.
Druid the same. Magic its playable. But melee suffer from the same problem has barb. TERRIBLE GENERATOS far worst than any ranged generator (lower ammount per hit, 1;4 of the up time due to be melee, and hit 1 target with lower damage than ranged generatorts that hit more enemys for more damage recover more and have 100% uptime per say). And the expenders have little to none aoe mediocre damage per cost.
@@Vindold In the beta with more legendary drops barb and druid still the worst classes imagine in the retail. barb and melee druid wont even be able to finish the game.
With the whole mobile upgrade builshit systems. This game its doomed.
hearing the Druid main explain how to make a good druid gave me so much anxiety.
There are some gems though. But obviously not as good as necro or sorc
face your fears^^
my druid in the beta does 3200 dmg pulverize, with 3 werewolfs 4 ravens 2 poison creepers, i litterally flat line everything instantly a sorc or necro cant even come close to compare, druids fully decked out in legendarys are INSANE
druid with no legendary combos is def rough tho :(
but if they buff druids to much without nerfing the legendary powers druids will be the most op class by a mile
This is about levelling thought not end game. If the average player gets to lvl 30 and feels like it sucks they won’t probably push it to 200 paragon. End game Druid and barb might be fine but they were not fun to level. Necro rogue we’re 👍
Though* stupid auto correct
Raxx’s face is probably the best part of the video 😂
It really hurts to see Druid getting this treatment. Aestheticly, it's my favorite of all of the classes but it's horrible to see it treated so poorly. But like you said, it's Blizzard's version of Fat Shaming, along with Bard 😭
Say you havent played d2 without saying you havent played d2
@@Choryrth the guy that turns into a big ass bear shouldn’t be big? Ok
If you fat fuc ks are looked like the druid you would not be fat. Hes a regular body builder without steroids. Barbs are on roids and trembo (why he rages), Necro want to be a top model and has bulemia.
But with armor druid looks actually cool. If you like the whole pieces of animal lather visual.
@@Choryrth No sense? He looks awesome, like Thor from GOW Ragnarok.
@@Choryrth HE TURNS INTO A FUCKING BEAR
The Druid build I had with a ring that gave me 8% dodge chance from status affected skills like poison. so my first run with the butcher I just stood there dodging everything. It was funny because I was only 12 or 13 that time.
yeah same, i run a werewolf poisen build with that ring, nothing could kill me lmao
I made a stormstrike+pulverize build that utilized the roars to regenerate health. You don't even need to use potions. So these content creators that made druid builds honestly did a really poor job. It's still trash but not *that* trash. Have a really shitty clip on my channel, ~7min showing it off. Was for discord but I listed it because internet argument.
@@PaulSmith-nb6md Yeah, including all the Maxroll people, hopefully they git gut and learn to play ARPGs. Kappa implied.
found an item for my necro early that gives me +2 skellies, lvled up the synergy that gives +35% life and dmg to my summmons. Thats it, thats how i finished the beta. That intro on the druid and how many things you need just made me laugh out loud.
If you take that aspect and put it on the neck, it gives you 3 skeletons
yeah you can have 10 max skeletons
@@ubermensch8417 actually 11 (6 warriors and 5 mages) 12 if you count the golem.
Pulverize build is pretty good with 1 legendary. The skill auto overwhelms, and there's a legendary that sends out a shockwave of like 120% of the skill's damage in a wave that covers almost the whole screen, on top of the skills normal damage. And it scales off everything you do to increase the skill's damage, so it's always great. Not sure why it wasn't showcased in any of the builds here, I found it 4x in my playthrough so it seems pretty common? I just stacked overpower damage multipliers and walked around 1 tapping elites and everything else behind them. The legendary to add spikes is negligible, and companions suck. Yet the build guides seemed to focus more on those things than the things that would more than double the damage of your main skill?
Class still sucks though.
@Pedro Viana I have 8 skeletons warriors and 3 mages. Still missing aspect to get another mage though
I'm a Druid playing with a Necro buddy. Everytime he's off screen, the monsters do not die. Everytime he's on screen, the monsters die so fast. I respec'd multiple different builds to see if maybe I was just playing a bad build. Almost nothing made a difference. Blizzard really shafted Druid so far.
Druid is slightly underpowered, but Necro is borderline OP. No class should be able to one shot on T2 difficulty with no legendaries or rares. At the same time, the skill trees needs to looked at because there is a common pattern of all skills being bad until a legendary is equipped
Gee its almost like a class that gets access to multiple minions that all do allot of damage is overpowered, who would of though lol, necro doesnt need nerving, dont nerf necro buff druid.
I mean its effectively easy mode and u are complaing about the game being easy, its just fucking stupid mate.
I am thankful for Druid. After playing it to 25 literally every other class was so much more fun.
I might have messed up spending the entire weekend beta playing a druid lol
trollylolly
Although the druid on its own needs serious balancing, IMO it feels more as though the other classes need a nerf; I had a ton of fun playing the druid, the fights especially vs bosses were more of a challenge and hence a lot more engaging plus rewarding to beat.
I think its more necro and sorc that are class balance disasters. They are way too powerful, druid barb and rogue are more in line with how the game should feel in my opinion
Blizzard did say that Druid didn’t unlock a certain part of his class until act 2.
I don’t see why people are shitting on Druid when it doesn’t have its core mechanic available in the beta which insanely increasing the damage output. I’ve been running a rabies, high poison build and have been melting enemies. Not comparable to Sorc and Necro of course, but I don’t think it’s terrible right now
Bruh 1. It’s a beta, 2. They Druid is missing a whole entire feature. It’s not supposed to be balanced around 1/4th level cap, come in now
Okay but that still means the first 25% of the game feels bad, even using the most hyper optimized build.
You're right, but one cast of corpse explosion deals as much damage as druid hurricanes full duration, that's a gigantic difference
@@Nielsper comparing corpse explosion to hurricane is silly. It’s complimentary aoe that can give you an extra chance to make mobs vulnerable or reduce the damage they do to you by 20%.
Druids are bad right now in WoW and they have always had a problem with balancing them. My hopes of them being good in D4 was pretty low. The late game scaling argument does nothing. So I need to swim through mud just to match what you were doing since the beginning?
Bad right now in WoW..? You on drugs?
@@FisherGaming You must not do M+ or raid. Anything that isn't Resto is either bottom middle of the pack or under preforming.
This is the Archetype from "Viva La Dirt League" "Regretting your class choice in games"
I started as a Druid, and assumed that was just how the game played. Then tried barb, started killing much faster, assumed I was learning the game. Then I tried necro and everything just melted…. The difference really was dramatic.
I had zero issues with my druid. I truly don't mind having to pay attention to what I'm doing as I play where as most of the ranged classes just make it seem AFK. Werewolf form is absolutely fire, and an early game aspect of the satiated gets rid of your constant need for spirit. You also cannot access your class mechanic in the beta as it's behind areas we can't reach yet. Spirit animal boons are going to help augment different play styles immensely. (Imagine playing your necro without access to your skeletons in the beta) I bet the necro wouldn't be worth a damn either.
Sorry to break to you... but its not that good. Are very mediocre buffs.
The best are 25% ultimate duration, 15% luck hit reduce cooldown of the ult in 2 s. And Critical strike in shape shifting recover 3% hp.
Aspect of unsatiated is hardly noticable on shred I have a full spirit shred setup and my shred still drains in like 3 seconds and I have to basic attack
Druid is weak AF
Except the only thing you get from Necro class quest, is the golem... which is irrelevant when you already can have 11 skellies and blow the entire screen up with corpse explosion. Your analogy is bad. Sorry.
@@AurigaStar It's not just the class quest, it's the specialization itself that druids dont have access to. Book of the Dead is necro specialization that is accesssible from lvl 1. Druids don't even have a specialization in this beta.
@@flagermusen I see your point, and I agree to an extent. That's precisely why is too soon to talk about "nerfs". We only played thru act 1 and not all classes had access to their defining mechanics. Sure, they need to balance better melee to bring it on par with ranged. But see, everyone keeps talking about how Necro and Sorc are OP and the rest trash, and yet, the most OP class, imo, is Renegade. I killed bosses like it was nothing even faster than my Necro or Sorc. But no one seems to have noticed that lol, it's all about Necros...
We need to compare Rex's disappointed face with Mattjestic's happy face
Druid leveling guide - group up with anybody else that's not a druid, and let them carry you.
You actively CAN NOT clear content alone. Especially in melee. No fucking way I have to KITE AROUND AND RUN IN CIRCLES as a werwolf, because I MELT in 2 seconds, and just re-apply disease while running around. MOB BY MOB. MOB BY FUCKING MOB KILLED ONLY WITH POISON WHILE RUNNING IN CIRCLES.
I wouldnt care that the druid sucks but the fact you cant stay in bear/wolf form is a automatic hell no
I agree that Werewolf/Werebear druid lacks damage very much on level 25. But i currently play Storm Strike Druid with few modifiers to lightning damage, like Lucky hit that has chance to proc lightning damage on hit, or other one - additional lightning damage on critical strike. I clear all locations effortlessly and bosses disappear.
I'm playing as a BEAR. I should be a WALL and be able to tank MULTIPLE heavy strikes from Elite enemies. I'd be content with just that, but Sorceror can tank better with Ice Shield and Ice Blades combo.
@DarmPNJ He's 100% right though. Got Druid to 25 farmed ashava a lot, farmed the lvl 35 elite spawn, imprinted those items with legendary aspects, leveled up the gear at the blacksmith, got all the altars, min/maxed on literally everything. Tried every single skill that druid has to offer. It turns out Werebear is dog****. Werewolf is slightly better but still dog****. Hurricane is weak. Tornado is fine but it is extremely inconsistent, sometimes it does no damage and sometimes it does a lot of damage. Ravens and vines are weak and wolves are only good for pulling aggro, they don't do any damage. Defensives are too slow and have a long cooldown. Earth build is the only way to go. And even when you use earth build, it still can't compete with every other class in terms of DPS. +sorcerer is way better at tanking than Druid will ever be.
despite everything I love the way druid plays. looking forward to it being good one day.
same!
Played a bear based build for most of the beta and legit, I had a ton of fun. Bear is basically immortal, and yeah, doesn't have the biggest dps numbers, I still went toe to toe with the Butcher and killed him thrice. I still need to see more of the game and actually see the spirit boons before counting it out.
And then everyone will get ass-gr&aped by unkillable super tanky damage reflecting Druids in PvP.
Shht .. don't spoil the endgame joke.
I knew going into D4 that drud was going to be the weakest class just from looking at how barb was doing, but this is just depressing.
plz help
For better balancing through leveling through the level phase while maintaining diversity in the roles of each character, I think they should buff the damage output of druid and barbarian in the beginning for a smoother experience. Or just nerf the others so the game is more challenging for all. But that might be best to save for later, as to not push casual players away. In the endgame, make the damage output more diversive so each archetype can fill their purposed role, just not in the beginning
In EVERY ASPECT... Druid caster are fine by the way. BUT YOU KNOW WHY MELEE SUCCS? And why barbarian succ?
Im goin to explain to you... 3 basic pillars of shi tty class.
1 MELEE. That for itself... its dangerous simple becouse monter auto attack skills deal huge damage, not only the skill you have to dodge and you uptime on mobs are smaller coupled with...
2 MELEE BASIC Skills, are slow, recovery less than the ranged ones, and have 1/4 of the uptime due to be melee. Now you have far less damage and resources becouse you use a melee resource recovery.
And 3 their skills deal literaly NO DAMAGE, the modifiers and pityfull, the aoe in most skills are very small and the cost its high.
Put the 3 toghter and you have this disaster. YOu need 20 s to go full in your resource, whole taking more damage, and when you use all your expenders YOU DISH 1;10 of the damage oter class does. REPEAT.
THEY NEED A WHOLE chang on all those. 1 melee basic skills need to have aoe, and recover far more resources like reap from druid for example. PLUS have another thing to balance the fact that you will be in melee. Melee speders need to cost far less and have better aoe. ANd hit like 5 times more. Or scalling far beter with points.
Nerfing bad.
Nerfing is almost impossible to get right. Buff Barb a bit, and REALLY buff Dru.
@@ZarathosDaimaoh its not an ego thing. you create a meta for that reason and thats not balanced. for example necro can cast corpse explosion without 0 mana costs thats broken, because you can spam it and sorc is is op too with this thunder/blitz AOE ability i dont know how the spell is called. with this spell you can 1 shot all mobs without hydra. thats nuts. in my opion every class shoud be on the same lev.
If you nerf the damage output of a glass cannon you just end up with a pile of broken glass. They'd have to make the sorc more tanky to compensate for it bad damage output.
holy shit that's worse than I thought I felt some classes just had better dmg from their trees than others, but Druid is just...sad...imagine necro needing just 1 legendary to blow up the entire game vs druid that probably needs multiple to even function then you remember that they will nerf the lego drop rate in full release so classes NEED to have functioning skills and output with just rares and their skill trees, which isn't the case here...
For anyone disappointed w/ Druid, it can actually get pretty strong, it takes about 5 seconds to kill dungeon bosses at 25. W/ decent legendaries.
Proof or I don't believe you
@@CommandoJenkins oh absolutely undertuned. The leveling process may be a struggle but since Diablo is a gear grind game I'm just stating it has potential. Currently that potential is locked behind legendaries.
I got a max Necro, barb, and Druid this weekend Necro was by far the best but plays the most boring for sure. Playing necro I literally healed maybe 3 times (ofc not counting ashava fight😂) I’m very excited for the release of this game because yes some classes are weak but they probably get busted in Act 2/3 and even if they don’t they are still genuinely fun to play
the thing that made me most excited for D4 was the fact that druid was gonna be in it. hurts my heart to see how they've done it damage wise
I understand you took 17 emotional damage but relax, devs gonna fix this xD
anyone here to see how this aged lmao. From worst to top 2 classes
And whats worse is we have NO IDEA what the druid aspect thing even does. Because, again, Blizzard felt the mostly melee class doesn't need their lvl15 mods. Loving it...
I liked the druid.
Blizzard will buff the shit out it (as they always do).
From reading the skills, I gathered this class is all about CC. Especially down the earth tree you can immobilise a boat load of mobs including elites and the damage increases (sometimes doubles) against CCd targets.
I'm a casual gamer and the druid appeals to me.
I did barb and druid to 25 and sorc and necro to 15 or so and i agree the barb got a lot stronger but the druid I found I only liked the lightning build but even the lightning build was annoying when most of the bolts missed and it didn’t focus on elites it still spreads when there is only one mob on the screen it should all focus on the one mob and it would be amazing
I'll never understand the complaining that different classes play different and do less damage then other classes
Bro... 4 out of the 5 classes need aspects to fix them, it's awful. It's like they never played their own game.
Asmon pauses it at the perfect spot at 12:30, the look on that poor guy's face as he just stares into the camera after having explained how Hurricane was ticking for 17 damage says everything you need to know about D4 Druid.
*watches a bit more* Ah, Asmon noticed it too. Someone needs to turn that into an emote for someone's channel. xD
And druid was the class I was excited to play the most...probably not going to buy on launch until they make this playable
You could level another class first and send your druid some twink items to make the leveling process less frustrating.
Devs have stated that there is no balance on early levels, they call it balance over time not balance on situation. Both Barb and Druid should come alive on later levels and with gear. I hope it is so.
Ya, let me play 20-30H before my class starts to feel good.
@@jamespost8967 Yeah I'd rather not be a betting man and trust in Blizzards non-existant capabilities of balancing classes. I'd rather play something that doesn't feel like complete cancer for the first 25+ levels.
@@mr.suitss1590 well both barb and druid don't get their lvl 15 class specific skills in beta cuz you get them in the 2nd zone. Meanwhile both sorc and necros get theirs. In the full game you will have those and it will make a difference
Problem is the other builds and not Druid/barb… Druid/barb you actually have to somewhat pay attention.. the other builds you can close your eyes, listen to music while getting a bbjj and you will just run through shit… who wants to play a game like that?
I ate sand today
Weirdly Interesting
Yo same dude
Me to bro
Me to bro
How was it
Druids don't have access to their animal spirits in beta since it's aquired in the 2nd zone. That's 2 extra perks they are missing. Meanwhile necros get their whole book of the dead
I legit deleted a boss as druid with a lightning build faster then sorcerer.
Lightning storm with the bolts that seek, increased damage to 30% by standing still. 20% chamce to overcharge my weapon and cause a mob to pulse.
The lightning bolts companion, with hurricane and cataclysm. All of the storm hits proc the overcharge, which will then also emit the pulse damage.
In a boss fight, there is storm props going everywhere, which causes the lightning effects to stack pretty much instantly and then auto delete
blue hood dude has 3 companions....you can tell he played d3 where they showed you the way to play everything...d4 is REALLY show how bad people are
I think the biggest problem is that while it's obvious Druid should be buffed as it is, it's hard to tell what's the final balance is gonna be until we have access to all the 100 levels and legendary builds. We have no idea how these classes scale, so while the level experience will suck for some more than others, what ultimately matters is the power levels of max level characters.
this is just not true if druid is not fun to level it just wont be played. IF it takes 15 hours to level a druid to max and only 5 for necro, rogue or sorc no one is going to play druid
I think the sorc,rogue,necro should be nerfed....
@@inpusket I think it's better if all classes feel slightly overpowered than if all classes are nerfed and grindy to play. If it takes around 2-3 hours for a really good player to do the 25 level demo with a necro, that's probably 10-12 hours at least to max your level before you even get to collecting your bis gear, and that's not factoring in the almost guaranteed leveling up slowdown as you reach higher levels.
My experience in Diablo 4 as a sorceress.
Chain lighting goes brrrzz and "Im out of mana".
Then I got to hydra, so now it was hydra goes brrr and I just keep running ahead while it kills stuff. Then I got lucky and got the legendary that allowed me to have 2 hydras at same time speeding things up even more.
Then I got an amulet giving +1 to all conjuration skills, so I had hydra, frost swords and lightning spear killing stuff for me while I sit/run around. I ended up respeccing chain lightning out for passives and using hydra on right mouseclick.
Trivialized all the boss fights and events, no need to aim, just occasionally move out of enemy attacks. Did a event with a necro and the skeletons were too slow, the hydras (and summons) killed the enemies while the skeles were running to the mobs.
Also had blizzard to make kiting bosses easier, while the summons killed it. The enhancement I had was frost nova, so all my conjurations could proc frost nova freezing enemies, assuming they were alive. Though the proc chance was a lot lower than the 30% it claimed, maybe it was 30% chance when you summon something that it will frost nova once during its duration.
100% sorcerer is getting nerfed.
the best part about druid is the pets only do 17-40 dmg a hit, they do LEVEL 1 skeleton dmg at 25 ffs.....
I didn't know about any balancing issues and I played my druid and I had an absolute BLAST o.O
compared to sorc and necro, the druid is pretty much using a nerf gun.
@@SSC604 But to be plain here, I really don't think the druid needs any buffs, I'd rather say the others need strong nerfs, or not? o.O Because again, I had a good time with my druid, didn't even notice, nor mind that a bossfight took 2 minutes.
Nah nerfing the necro sorc and rogue would be taking a huge step backwards. They don't all need to clear at identical speeds but taking almost 3-4x as long is crazy.
@@SSC604 I just played it a bit with the sorcerer and I must say holy damn I'm glad I started with the druid. If any of the other classes play as boring and overpowered as sorc, then I sure hope they leave the druid as he is, so I have something to play :'D Cheers man! Let's just hope for a good game with a steady performance in the end! :D
The druid is so much fun, necro and sorc are op, but boring as hell
Playing as a the Druid was super challenging and fun. Figuring out a build that worked with Druid in the early game was a great time despite wiping on some of the bosses a couple of times. I ended up having to rabies kite some bosses but it was fun figuring out that was my only option. After getting legendaries you get way stronger and I felt some actual character progression. If I had it my way all class should get nerfed to their level.
Edit: I’m not being sarcastic lol I tried sorc and got bored so fast. Playing Druid gave me carpal tunnel and I love it
Druid main cope 💀
Depending on how damage reduction works( can you get to 100% and be invincible? ) , druid is the class with the most damage reduction options... so you could be the ultimate tank but deal absolutely no damage... still useful in a party.
25% on cyclonic armor all the time as a passive( legendary aspect gives it to physical damage as well )
25% on basic attack for 4 second( basically all the time you're attacking )
25% on a defensive aspect with basic attacks
10% on fortify
15% on non physical damage, passive skill
15% passive skill for 6 seconds when you use a defensive skill
10% aspect when you are a werewolf ( another aspect make it permanent )
10% from elite on the unique class mechanic
9% when you are a werebear passive skill
40% on skill debilitating roar for 4 seconds
x% on unique aspect
20% on ultimate grizzly rage for 10-20 seconds
15% + non physical damage from your rings and amulets
+ your armor
The one thing of note is that both the barb and druid are lacking their lvl 15 class feature.
That said, basic druid skills need a big buff!
How I would design Druid: erect a bunch of bramble walls that damages, bleeds and slows enemies that go through it. Give bear form an aoe ability that throws enemies around u into the wall to impale them. have werewolf form give enemies madness to attack other enemies or give it a fear effect that will push them into the bramble wall again. also will be cool if he had a passive of turning enemies into werewolfs or bears temporarily and make them attack other enemies.
tbh they should just make bear and wolf transformation for basic attack passive,(ie permanent) with passive bonuses.
Druid is all about summon! At least in D2 having 5 wolves, 3 dire wolves, a wear bear, 5 crows, the squid damage buffer, the corpse eating vines, plus a companion and your character all on screen at once tearing through everything is just unbeatable!!!
Same goes for Necro back then. 30+ skelly bros, a golem, and nerfing crowds on a merry adventure with the crew.
with ceratin items i managed to do well after lvl 18 with druid. It still cannot compete with necro but it does solid. I imagine it will do good lategame and with serious itemisation
I feel like that direct look at the camera under the blue hoodie, is so meme-able after he says "hitting the mobs around me for... 17, damage..."
"They ask you how you are and you just have to say that you're fine when you're not really fine."
Druide leveling experience: your first ever play through of POE, going blind with the global modifier "no regen".
All other classes: leveling with a league starter meta build and having all the leveling uniques at disposal.
More seriously, I believe the main issue with druid is resources management.
I think all class's will have alot of balance changes before release
I think so to. And changing stats is by far the easiest thing for Blizzard to do before we hit the early access.
@@SleepyFen lmao blizzard and balance in the same sentence. they're too busy thinking about taking more of your money through the battle pass
Typical diablo class issue that's probably been prominent since D2.
Some classes & builds : Spam abilities, hit hard, kill shit, win
Other classes & builds : Use this ability to build up this many stacks
Use this ability to "set up".
Use this ability to negate damage
Use this ability to dump stacks. Run around in 5 circles to build this, do this, do that.
By the time you've done this. You've spent 2 minutes on a small pack of random creatures.
Meanwhile first mentioned classes killed the mob 90 seconds ago and have already moved on, used less abilities, and had a much easier time doing it.
"BALANCE"
One class I can use for example that had this issue was the necro from D2. No wonder it's the least popular class choice & has been for years consecutively.
For most necro builds. Your damage comes from corpses. In tier 125+. Without a corpse to ramp your damage, you've got to kill something.
When the enemies have billions of HP and your damage isn't ramped up, that could mean a long time to just get started.
Worse if there's a rift guardian spawning and your damage ramp drops off.
Necros had a bloody hard time. Meanwhile I pushed 144+ on my barb with half the hours invested, much less effort in general and had a much easier time.
Druid players deserve respect. Blizzard deserves to be sued. Do you know what? They inflicted psychological torture on druid players. This is truly terrifying.
I had so much fun on druid I had no idea people thought it was bad until this video
Same
Pretty sure you just have to play necro and sorc and then youll be pissed off like everyone else haha
Who knew games were more fun when everyone wasn’t constantly complaining about every feature😔
@michael bustamante played them both didn't like either to be honest
As the saying goes, ignorance is bliss.
My Druid actually does 14400 damage per Cast... ON 4 played scaled Elite mobs in Dungeons...
yeah its streamers not knowing how to build a character
I find it so funny that people are releasing build videos for a lvl 25 char lol.
At the point the only build in existence is to equip the best shit in ur inventory
Well i mixed my druid build into primary and secondary werewolf abilities, with wind armor, hurrycane, wolfs companion and rabies or werewolf ult when u reach it, and i completed act 1 like a breeze, really easy, but the elemental builds looked underpowered
It's still wild to me how people forget the early access is 4 days ahead of launch. This isn't it. This is beta. Stat changes will happen if necessary. Jumping at every opportunity to hate the game when it's not even finished and the beta exists specifically to gather feedback on these things is cringe AF.
Raxx is always chill af
People dont relizes that druid is missing 2 major build accesses in BETA. One is crushing blow which is only for druids *% of damage vs enemies* and their talent specialization because its in a different area outside the peak
"Best druid build" - the sad thing is: it might actually be
I mained Druid and had none of these issues, Asmon is just a pleb lol
copium...
Did you hit max level and beat the game in 2 hours while having a ton of fun?
Guys, Druid is fine, just use a pillon for Conduit 🤣
I didn't even know druid was weak until i rolled a nerco and spent half the time lvling up as i did with the druid. The real issue, imo is once you hit 20, it feels like all your damage just falls off.
Can confirm, it took over 15 minutes to kill some bosses and I didn't have a great build going.
I agree that Druid sucks, but imagine... 1) being Asmongold and 2) believing you're good at video games.
With Druid any healing enemies were able to out heal my damage with updated gear, legendarys, lv 20, etc. Every other class: Unga Bunga hit any button, able to kill most enemies no problem. Druid is an incredibly disappointing return.
Druid has powerfull scalings. I just found +% to Owerpower dmg items, and pulverize doing 1700 dmg AOE every 10 sec. If yo lucky, yo can found legendary that makes pulverize do the big AOE cone, and in the right spot you can do DOBLE DMG from small AOE sircle + that cone = 3400 Thanos snap every 10 sec.
There is just easy to play chars, and more complicated.
Some need the right builds from the start, and some with a stick in hand deal damage. But I went in a group with my friend playing the necromancer, he was surprised at how I kill level 27 elites, as if they were nobody.
P.S. I watсhed full vid, DAMN 900 DMG on lvl 25 and its a GUIDE TO DMG, those streamers\youtubers need to stop doind some sh**ty guides, holy...
2:13 Meanwhile Sorcerer: *chain lighting* “alright world boss in a couple minutes”
Gotta make Raxx face when he says "17 damage" into a new emote for Twitch, with his blessing of course.
bro the cleared the lvl 25 stronghold as a lvl 20 (Necro) and the final boss has a channeling ability that rekts characters if you are not paying attention. ONE of my skeletons face tanked the ENTIRE channel length ability and didn't even lose half his health! Told my friend who kept dying as to that boss because of that ability and he was so pissed lol
People sleep on Druid but Druid is the only class that can tank World boss. Necro and Sorc just died from one attack from world boss.
I was so excited to be a werewolf again, and immediately disappointed by level 10. Powered through to 25 as a full wolf build before switching to a companion/earth build. Werewolf felt like a limp noodle. Couldn't even stand and bang with bosses without dying quickly.
Meanwhile the animal/earth druid is a beast. Doing 5x the damage easily and meleeing the boss and surviving with ease. Didnt even need to dodge.
Druid build inequality is a big issue for the class. The strong builds feel competitive with other classes, but the other options feel underpowered and underwhelming. It's a night and day difference.
Plot twist: Druid is shit, but in full version if you suffer enough and keep on with this character, at max level you're so over powered like an anime character that puts other classes in it's shadow
I feel so bad for ragegamingvideos. They exhaust every facet of builds in a game, so naturally they would have to force themselves to try to build druid.
The biggest problem with Druid is that builds don't just "work". Early game shouldn't be this rough on a class. It's one thing to reach end game and find out you're having trouble dealing with a particular boss but it's another to bang your head against a boss at level 15 and not find a build that's remotely decent. There are very few people claiming that druids worked for them. There are some people in these comments huffing the copium but this is definitely not the experience most people playing druid have been having.
In addition to this... why are there any "bad builds" at level 25? This is act 1 stuff. It shouldn't be taking you 20 minutes to fight a single boss when most other classes are clearing the same boss in a 10th of the time. Druid isn't balanced correctly.
I solo'd the beta as shapeshift druid, was a challenge for sure but i had fun. However, I realize how for most longer and harder =/= fun
So far the Tornado Druid looks strong, killing elites in 2 sec. A world were every class is every strong at any point will never happen. All we can ask for is end game balance IMO.
The problem is not the druid or the barb, but the necro and the mage. Winning without having interactions it's not fun, it's like watching a bad film.
People stop asking for nerfs, instead ask for buffs to the classes that need them, dont screw over people having fun being overpowered on a difficulty that is essentially the easy difficulty and meant for everything to be easy.
Biggest problem is that people compare Druid/Barbarian to utterly broken classes like necro mist and sorcerer double hydras.
This whole game's animation is the same brown whitish color for every spell for every class. It's like they told them "keep it with the brown gray whitish theme' and thats all they did.
I think druid is probably best chosen if you are in a team and need a tank to do like level 100 legendary dungeons or whatever. But we just don't know yet, the level cap was 25, and summoners have always been strong in the early game. Like what they talking about "when barb gets going", you are level 25 that is early game, you can reach that in 1 day.
People are really jumping the gun on this I think, the early game is really just irrelevant. And why are people expecting huge damage out of a character that is obviously a tank. Literally skills that give 50% damage reduction, 40% health fortification, multiple aoe status effect applications.... why would it be a damage dealer?
It's so bad that frankly I refuse believe anyone playtested this at any point prior in the game's development.
It is quite simple. The diablo team hate the tank/melee/strength class fantasies. They don't want them to be strong or tanky. They add them in so people who like those playstyles buy the game, meaning more money. But they do not care about buffing or fixing those classes as they never bothered to put as much time and effort in those classes than they did with their counterparts - Sorcerer/Necromancer/Rogue. Game director is also a diehard Necro main. Need I say more?
Nice conspiracy dude! 🤡
@@snilix 🤓
@@mrdrprofessorGAMER You almost got me! 🤭🥸
the highest damage build for trash mobs... that is just, sad.