This Drywall Anchor Can ALMOST Hold Your Mom!!
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“If there’s anybody in this job site that knows what’s going on, it’s me! (Less than 5 seconds later) So…I don’t know exactly what you would call this…but it’s big…” 😂
21:32 "forklift certified" and the shelf was upside down. 😂 😂
The drywall failed, not the anchor so when they are close together you can't add the strength. For leverage multiply the force by the width of the shelf (4") and divide by the thickness/2 (.75?) to get about 6x the force. Also the pull strength of anchors is not the same as the sheer strength.
Hes wearing hivis and a yellow plastic hat from the costume shop. He obviously knows what hes doing
You're just mad cause you're not forklift-certified
Look at his reflective vest. He obviously knows and compensated for that.
I can get you full CSCS card £5 think I'll make a killing here boys
No one gives a phuck soo if that hurts but your opinion matters like my wife’s comments….. not at allllll
Dang Tyler’s evolved from not reading instructions to dropping the hardest diss track of 2024.
I like how he has no idea how anything works in every video 😂
Yep then proceeds to talk shit about the product. Like no product ever works lol
Facts lol
That’s why I would never trust his videos as a true product review he has no idea how even the simplest things work such as a can opener
That's kind of what makes them so fun. It's like watching Jeremy Clarkson try to do any manual labor.
21:20 okay that might be the single most impressive thing Tyler has ever done in his life ... if I wasnt sure he probably tilted the table to make it level LOL
He had the upper line of the drywall as a reference, which he put the sticker in parallel with. The longer the sticker, the easier it is to see the tiniest off-angle.😉
There's tape under the base of the level
@@ModernSurvivalSense Ya you can see the gap lol
I alway use the winged ones if I can
Drywall anchor ratings are based on something flat against the wall, like a flat mount TV or a painting. Shelves stick out and all that distance dramatically increases the sideways pressure. That shelf with anchors should only be holding decorative items. 44lbs would be plenty.
The anchors weakness is the drywall itself
Yeah drywalls not exactly known for its strength lol
Yep, dont use ultra light drywall lol
That's what I was thinking! But then again my reproductive organs are on the inside, so what do I know lol.
@@jimboneutron8399ultralight drywall has fibers that make it strong and lighter than gypsum 😊
@@beckyowens2586that’s a gold comment hahahahah
pulling on anything to test anchors in that fashion is not a good way to do a real test, but it is entertaining.
That literally is the only way any kind of anchor is useful, though. A shear load is what they're made for, they're not made to stop something pulling out horizontally but to stop something falling down vertically
@@daylen577 anchors are meant to be an attachment point, not a load point that is pulled on 90 degrees to the load or leveraged with a crane and hoist. anyone thinking using a crane and hoist to test anchors is at best entertaining people, not actually performing actual test of products, materials, or process.
@@thomasechols8834how would you test them and get similar results when multiple tests
@@jimmiefitzgerald4961 I would not worry about testing them because they are a waste of time, as tyler mentioned by never having used them because they merely rip drywall apart and as such are useless.
@@thomasechols8834 For most people's usage of drywall anchors this is the exact right kind of test. Most people use these for hanging heavy picture frames or drapes which the testing here emulates pretty well. The only additional thing that may be useful would be to use one to hang a drape/curtain bracket and then add weight until it fails.
Lmao as a construction electrician I’ll tell you the one you thought was the worst design (toggle bolt with wing nut) is about the only one we use, those aren’t necessarily designed for ease of install and usually you use a washer under the head of the bolt, also an impact to screw it in not a screwdriver 😂. haven’t made it to the end of the video but I hope to see you test a zip it anchor as well
This man never fails to test everything the absolute wrong way lmao. *Drywall rips* "well those anchors couldnt keep the swiss cheese wall together, they fail the test" 😂
Lastly, anchors hold more horizontal pressure than vertical force. That being said, you're testing drywall strength with different hole sizes, basically. Loads places on drywall anchors usually pull outward on the anchor rather than vertically.
Drywall gets weaker the more holes are drilled into it. Those four holes that close together destroyed the integrity of the wall. That’s why one anchor is stronger than four.
That and the fact that he went from pulling directly up against the wall to pulling on the outside edge of the shelf creating leverage which is multiplying the force on the anchors
so using one anchor and 3 regular screw would be best? or just find a stud?
for a floating shelf id 100% find a stud, but when the wife asks for it in a specific place the anchor will have todo just tell everyone to not lean or put anything on it XD@@shootingdragon0
This
Putting more than one anchor spreads out the weight over a larger area, meaning each individual anchor is holding less weight. Try hanging a TV with one anchor VS 4 anchors and tell me one anchor is stronger than four..... It has to do with the fact thathe was pulling up further away from the wall. Same as using a breaker bar vs a 6" wrench. Like Tyler said, it's leverage. It's all very very basic physics, really...
In Germany we like to use these expansion dowels on lamps that are attached to plasterboard ceilings or old straw ceilings - they are perfect for this at 12:00 😊
But we don't have so much drywall at all xD i have ZERO drywalls in our house here in northern Germany, all made out of bricks.
@@reneberthold334 Bei mir in Berlin im Altbau auch keine Rigips Platten
3:55-Tyler "that would almost hold your mom"
4:42- what tyler would do to your mom
No standards. Even a mannequin is good enough for him.
Even a mannequin torso
Do you/Tyler not realize that a good number of viewers that are over 50yrs old that their mother has passed away? Just saying.
@@dresdensinn6669 yeah I'm sure plenty of people don't have moms who are alive anymore. However, it's meant to be a joke about yo mama being fat, like a reference to dumb middle school humor. If that seriously offends you, that's a you problem
@@CadgerChristmasLightShow I would expect something a little more "consoling" and understanding in their reply from someone with "Christmas" in their name but somehow I'm not surprised.
I swear I can't get enough of this channel.
Ikr?
Maybe Tyler is learning that you can do a lot with 4 inches of leverage 😂
may be he already knew????
Our mom's have met Tyler and they already knew 😏
We wanted dry wall anchors tested against bulletproof vests 😭😭
I can't imagine how ridiculous your house looks with random 2x4's bolted to the wall.
Not as rediculous as the house with holes where the drywall anchors ripped out
@@BlazingKhioneus I've never had a drywall anchor rip from my wall in my 36 years on this earth. Use a stud.
Why would you use a drywall anchor if you're gonna use a stud? @skyzophrenyk
Not Tyler dissing on the best drywall anchor BY FAR and then having to walk back his comments. 😂😂😂 Haaaa. Gotta love it.
The "dumb" one has been my favorite for years. 😊
Yeah, I use them frequently....and I have nothing really bad to say about them.
Fork Lift Certified.. .needs to be a Meme from now on , on Tylers videos when he does something well or something performs well.
I used those heavy duty metal butterfly anchors to protect. my children from book cases. and heavy things like giant mirrors. When you have kids you'll be anchoring in a lot more stuff.
Best to not have crotch goblins.
There are two other anchors that you should test. They are the ones that I prefer actually. The first is “toggler” and it’s a self tapping, screw in anchor. The second is “snap toggle” and that is more of the pop open butterfly type that you tested. These can hold like 300lbs in drywall.
Seeing the world through Tyler's eyes is an illuminating experience. I've used the toggles my whole life and never given it a second thought. It's fun seeing it from another perspective though.
when using the anchors, the biggest factor is the thickness of the drywall, half inch drywall is stronger than quarter inch.
I've done a lot of drywall, and never seen 1/4"
1/2" and 5/8" are standard. 1/2" for normal walls, 5/8" for firewall, such as in your garage or kitchen.
I live in a mobile home and used to build mobile homes and they use 3/8 drywall on everything, and I know a lot of people that have used wall anchors in our area, and they end up with holes in the wall from the anchors pulling threw the walls.@@eclectichoosier5474
No way!!! The stuff that is twice as thick is stronger?! Learned something new.
I don't get it. The last anchor, for example, it wasn't the anchor that failed but the "wall". You can use anchors made of the toughest material but if your wall is made of cardboard, it's not going to hold.
Only as strong as the weakest link, which in our case was the drywall. Solution is to use real materials instead of drywall.
Show me one house that doesn't use drywall. Exactly...@@The_White
@@IntegerOfDoom Literally any house outside of the US
@@IntegerOfDoom you literally missed the point lmao log off
I used the last anchor you tested the one with the long screw and that made a big hole in the drywall to hold a ceiling lamp and the design ain't stupid because the head of the screw comes off so u can keep the threaded rod in the part with the wings, get it in then add what I wanna mount to the wall or ceiling in my case with the corresponding holes, then add the head back on and after that's tight just screw it all the way in and you're done just like you did in the vid. You're welcome.
Incoherent rambling
@@IntegerOfDoomhe’s saying the head of the bolt comes off of the toggle bolt Tyler used
The one at 14:00 is the one I had to use when doing construction we had to put in 100’s of those a day 🤣
I'm glad you did the shelf test because there's almost always some torque and outwards pull on the anchors.
Drywall anchors are amazing....ive never doubted them
Brother, I thought I was good with forklifts (construction, lumberyards and shipyards), but you sure showed me something today I had never thought I could also do.
@tylertube The one that you testing at around the 13:49 mark is for ceilings. It works best by evenly distrubting the weight across the surface horizontally parallel to the surface not perpenduclar to it. At that point you are dispursing the weight on the screw to the drywall not the flange to the dry wall. The screw as a much smaller surface area that the flange, hence causing to it fail much quicker. I use these all the time to hang my pots and pans, and plants.
Tyler. I have watched every video you have made in the last 3 years. Woth the possable exeption of maybe 5. And i can confidently say this is easily in my top 5. For whatever reason i throughly enjoyed the way you acted. I laughed so hard.
Try the Hilti HTB1/4 in. Toggle Bolt Drywall Anchor with Zinc Plated Phillips Head Screw from home depot. We use these to hang TVs and grab bars.
the one you used that you said was the dumbest is a togglebolt and they are actually very good at not only drywall but other applications aswell
love the vids tyler
Tyler I always look forward to your experiments 🧪🧪🧪 always entertaining!!!
The repair for the patch nonsense is to use the toggle in the same hole. As someone that hangs A LOT of stuff in the real world every day, you figure out ways to make things work and to hold up.
Great experiment! Great video!
I’ve been an appliance service tech and installer and they have put those butterfly anchors, the last one with over the range microwaves for years. You can use them for the mounting plate for the microwave, and they are strong.
Those butterfly anchors are the best, when used for the correct application
The dumbest one is called a toggle bolt and yes, they are horrible. However, as you found, they are super strong for many use cases. I would have liked to see you test anchors at more than just parallel stress. Straight down the wall is one use case, but most things have at least some perpendicular forces pulling away from the wall and that’s really where the different anchors shine. Those cheap traditional ones for example pull out immediately with ANY outward force. Toggle bolts take the most force to pull out. Lots of in between options between those two extremes though. Personally I love the plastic auger screw type anchors. They do make a larger hole if you have to patch one, but they self drill and hold really well for typical home projects. Never had those pull out, even with TV mounts, which is my most common use case when I can’t find a stud that works. (Your shelf test very much demonstrates the point I was making about outward forces that are not strictly up or down the wall. Even slight amounts of angled force changes the physics immensely because leverage is a huge force multiplier.)
Very informative, but I want to tell you the very last one you used is for a ceiling to hang a hook from that’s why it’s so weird with its arms sticking out like that so that it doesn’t punch through the ceiling.
14:53 Drywall fiberglass lol
11:48 These might be marketed as "drywall" anchors. But when I was working as a pipe welder, we used these to anchor small frames into concrete block walls. Never figured they were meant for drywall. They hold up well and you can fill the block wall with grout. It makes way more sense for a concrete wall I feel.
I've used the winged ones. They work really well. Four of them pretty much guarantee a cabinet is never falling off the wall.
I use them, but to hang anything expensive, like a TV, or even something like a radiator, I'd still put a patress in the stud wall then patch it all back up nice and tidy, because it's all fine and dandy when they are fresh, but when things start getting knocked, the fixing is only as good as the plasterboard, and these can wobble out as the drywall slowly crumbles away.
Absolutely love the 'Forklift certified' hat with the 'raw toast' shirt. Immaculate Tyler drip as always!
You find the force by using W = F * y / x
F is the force on y; y is the long end of the fulcrum; x is the short end of the fulcrum; W is the lift mass or total force applied at the point where the fulcrum and the object that force is being applied to, meet.
44(lbs)*4(in)/0.75(in)=234.667(lbs) of force which is consistent with where the drywall (not the anchors) was failing in all previous tests.
But you're the high-vis-forklift-certified-foreman so, you obviously knew that already 😅
12:00 That style of drywall anchor I've only seen used on ceilings. I've taken them out in the past and never had an issue loosing them. If you see a hook on your ceiling there's a good chance it's probably held in by one of these. Chandelier hooks might be different though not sure there.
Try a standard shelf bracket vs that floating one?
I love how he used a brick plug on drywall, the green one is designed for actual walls and it clings to it with the bit that 'pops out'
For the shelf why didn’t you just add weight? Like bricks you weigh the total weight before you set them in the shelf?
Toggle bolts are really great. We use them in construction to hold up some pretty heavy stuff.
Bud....once ya made the hole bigger....um use THE RIGHT THING.....THE TOGGLE BOLT😂😂😂😂
You have to consider shear force and friction. You took both of those away with the shelf and applied leverage by moving the hoist point away from the wall. Great vid as always!
0:42 your already doing something wrong 😂😂
Cleanest high vis I've ever seen, he must be the safety man especially with that forklift certification
The strongest one is the ones we use in commercial work dumb design but boy there tough and it helps to use a 1/4 in washer on the outside if needed
Yeah, toggle anchors are pretty nice. Helps when you use a washer so that the head of the bolt doesn’t go through the drywall since you have to drill such a big hole. Another one you should try or zip it’s.
The clean execute of the your mom joke was beautiful 😂
tyler is the most qualified person to do any tests he should get a job as a product tester
He is THE product tester for youtube ❤❤😂😂😂
except he always does everything wrong when testing
@@davidbarnes1439 most people are idiots. So I guess this is “real world” testing!
The drywall anchor repair kit works like a cast where the stuff it glue old together the cast or drywall anchor.
He's only wearing safety equipment he *doesn't* need in this situation. 🤣
There's no danger of falling objects on his head and none around, who could see his high visibility vest. But he doesn't wear safety glasses, which would be recommended here.
I’ve had great luck with good anchors. The only ones that suck are the tap and screw in style . But most basic anchors you put screws into are solid. Never had anything fall
On this episode, Tyler learns about leverage.
The original title: I Tested Drywall Anchors From Amazon!
To my eye having that flat piece of timber over the anchor supports the drywall during stress testing and distributes the load across the timber
Tyler, a few comments...
1. Your original tests were testing only SHEAR. Shear refers to a sliding failure that occurs along a flat plane of a sample (verticale direction in this case). Once you added that shelf you gain additional forces. Not only leverage (because your attachment point was now further from the wall, so the shelf acts as a lever) but you were also testing more Tensile Strength and more specifically TORQUE testing. These forces were acting on pulling in a lateral and rotational direction (in which most components are their weakest).
These different forces are why you experienced such drastictly different results in load strength.
The key is to recognize the forces at play, and use the proper fastener for the application. A standard drywall anchor can have plenty of shear strength, and is a good application for hanging flat things on a wall such as pictures, clocks, etc. Toggle anchors are the only ones designed to resist Tensile forces or rotational and/or twisting forces. In fact, they are the only anchors that are approved by code for hanging items from a ceiling (pure tensile forces) or hanging things such as shelves on a wall that will have heavy items on them.
While attaching to a stud inside the wall is always best for any situation, drywall anchors have there place.
Great video!
I think Tyler's a lot smarter than people think I'm 99% sure his CZcams persona is just a character.
You should try stacking weights on the shelf to see how much weight the shelf could hold when it’s distributed across the shelf. Cause people usually aren’t putting 44 pounds of stuff on the very front of the shelf at one point.
Look up zip toggles, it has a retainer that holds the threaded part inside the wall and also reduces the hole size so it’s not so sloppy, they’re not cheap but they work great.
Toggle bolt anchors are my absolute go to though.
I use them whenever possible.
23:03 One of the reasons why the drywall anchors failed is because the integrity of the drywall was compromised by putting two anchors too close to eachother because the material expands and is displaced by the anchor, dry wall anchors are mostly good for hanging pictures or small things and i myself have had my failures with drywall anchors and i personally think that stud mounting is way better because its a stud its logically stronger than paper.
9:13, love how you never considert a longer Screw 😂
Erase a Hole for drywall repair. Its a tube you use it and just smear it on the wall, it fills the hole. When it dries all you have to do is paint it , great for small holes or medium scratches. What I used it on. Leftover stuff just stays in the tube, its been 2 years I still have over half of it. Its still fresh ready to use. Like spackle in a deodorant tube LOL
Oh so this is what americans call dry wall anchors? We use these all the time in europe, just makes everything fit snug each time especially for brick walls which there are many.
Exactly and we don't have so-called "walls" made of cardboard. The simple plastic anchors work just fine but the wall needs to be at least as thick as the anchor.
23:01 That's leverage, move the hook closer to the wall and it'll hold a lot more😊
That one that you have to drill a big hole so you can get it in and it pops out, we use it for a handle to open our attic because the string that was attached to the attic door failed. It was a messy install, but it worked
21:32 as he said dead center see his blood vessel in his eye stressing knowing we gonna commit something 🤣
Oh, okay, to explain what's going on with the amount of leverage being *so* effective at reducing the amount of force necessary: it's changing the type of force being applied on the drywall.
To further explain, drywall is effectively a type of artificial rock made primarily out of ground up gypsum that's been reconstituted so it rebinds into one big sheet, and one thing about rocks and stones is they are generally strongest at resisting compressive force (i.e. directly crushing them), but they are usually absolutely dogshit at handling tensile forces (basically anything that attempts to bend or twist them), instead sheering parts of it away with relatively little force compared to trying to break it via crushing (wood is the opposite: very good compared to stone at handling tensile forces, while a good deal worse than stone at handling compressive forces).
This is why when you tested the shelf it broke with so much less weight: when you were pulling directly up the drywall was being squished, and since the leverage was putting all the force in the direction the drywall was thickest it needed to compress the drywall to get the leverage to pull out, so it was very strong, but with the shelf it didn't need to compress the drywall much at all before there was a part of the drywall that was being *pulled on* instead of being crushed, and then it was just holding out for the strength of bending drywall, which considering it doesn't normally get sold in those uhhh, two-foot square segments, I'm guessing you've had experience with bending it, at least when you've cut it and need it shaped
Also, drywall is a very light, soft stone
did not expect the “your mom” joke😭
Literally can hold your mom 😂☠️
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4 way?
Roasted!!! Like a worm on the sidewalk 😂
The issue with dry wall anchor is that an individually they're strong but place to close togesther it ruins the integrity of the dry wall itself like in case with the shelf you had 2 anchor with lil less then a inch or 2 of space apart
Id like see that tested again but instead have only 1 anchor on each side of the shelf an see if it improves the weight limit before failure occurs
Today Tyler learned about leverage 😅😂
I've been using these for a year or more at a holiday inn I work I love them the guest still break the drywall on the toilet paper holders the anchors hold the drywall doesn't
Tyler: "Let's do a real life example: if one pregnant woman delivers a baby in 9 months, 9 women will deliver one super baby in 81 months."
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Ok this made me audibly laugh out loud 🤣🤣🤣
The anchor is designed to work with gravity by using the strain gauge out you but the upward ( lifting force) at the maximum distance from the center of pressure. You there by tested the bolts and drywall.
Thanks for putting the kg equivalent.
I dont have freedom units here, and when im playing along at home all my guesses are in kg.
I think the failure at the end has more to do with the shelf design rather than the anchors. Though it is a common mistake with those floating shelves and whenever I have seen videos of them failing it always destroys a large section of the dry wall
that greed plug at 8:00 is for stone and concrete, hence the bad grip on drywall. it needs resistance to bite the threads propperly.
Tyler is the kind of guy I'd love to have a drink with, but I know he would be so picky about what drinks we order
You should’ve loaded the shelf with weight at the end not pulled up on it. Maybe the downward force would be different and the “anchors” wouldn’t fall but that shelf would slide off of its pegs
I love the mom joke 😂
Didn't know you were forklift certified. You have my respect. Gobbless.
This is how many people absolutely love & adore Tyler.
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I'm no drummer but that's definitely a high-hat 😂
There used on plumbing appliances. There super strong
We used the wingnuts with pane washers to hang 1 inch sprinkler pipe for fire protection . They are very strong . We drilled the hole , used a cut piece of all thread rod to screw into the wingnut , Then a pane washer and a regular nut went on that . Run the nut tight and then the other end of the all thread rod we screwed the pipe hanger onto .