Triumph Rocket 3GT, Mid pegs Quick shifter and tuned 30+ bhp
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- Rocket Mapping
Dyno'd the bike in stock trim to get a base power figure, also reading afr to see fueling at different throttle position. Then flashed the ECU to smooth the upper end of the throttle map to build in throttle angle until you get what you desire up the top end of the map, so it's a smooth progressive curve to the throttle map.
Trimmed the fueling over 50% too.
Power and afr runs afterwards in order to see the gains and results
Before tune- 132.98 bhp - 185.15 torque
After tune - 160.85 bhp - 191.09 torque
Bhp gain of 27.87 at 6950rpm
Torque gain of 5.94 at 3900rpm
Red line moved from 6800 to 7200rpm???
I also believe that these figures on the slightly lower end too, as the main air jet needs to be stronger, so wasn’t getting the desired fresh air forced in.
I’ve only had in for a few days but in sport mode now, it’s a different level of crazy!
Still very easy to ride, it sounds like a jet fighter now, and even returns 43mpg when playing ;).
Happy is not the word.
I personally used Dart Motorsport located in Halland, East Sussex, for the rollout road and tune, very friendly, helpful and good price.
dartmotorsport.com
It's mad I tell you. Got mine as one of the first in Belgium. Remapped it the year after and I guarantee it's the kind of fast you never really get used to. I'm never selling this 😂👌
LOVE THIS..... 100%
I just got my 2021 rocket 3 GT with 1300 miles on it. I found out somehow i have wound up with a very unique bike. I have a 1 of 1 in the world produced from the factory white with flake in it, as it was made and used in the production of a show on HBO called The righteous gemstones. When triumph told me i have the only one produced in the world in that color my mouth hit the floor..... When I i went and looked at it and purchased it I thought why had I never considered this color? Now I know, because I've never seen this color! Already ordered my competition werkes exhaust!!!!!! I just hope the triumph community is as good as the Buell community was to me for 14 yrs.
Wow. That’s incredible, I’d love to seee it if you have a pic
@@HastingsKickboxingAcademy how can I send you a pic?
This is what I have heard also, thank you. I love Triumphs. Bought my first Triumph trophy back in 1966 when I was in highschool. Back then,it was Triumph and Harley, BSA and Norton.
Oh yes. I love them, so much more than imported stuff 🫣
I watched your video fully prepared to correct you on most everything since I have much more time and miles on a GT than you do and I would really know what is what. But you hit everything dead on, absolutely dead on . I hate it when I cant correct a reviewer, lol Great job.
Oh wow - as I started to read your comment I was like! Here we go, what have I got wrong/what have I said 😳🫣
Thank you, I appreciate the comment, time and honesty. I have noticed that bikers can be very opinionated (righly so) so I understand videos like this can sometimes let’s say “create debate” as bikes are so individual.
So reading this and confirming the videos and the points made are on point is amazing, as it’s not been up 24 hours yet. 🙏
Have a great day, safe riding 🚀🙏
when you was talking about wind up your inside leg i had that problem with wind and a wasp "OUCH"
Ouchie, Thats no fun :(
Watched your vid and couldn't agree more . I also bought the gt and then did the same modification plus a vandemon exhaust. The thing puts more smiles on my face in 5 miles than my 2018 sp2 fireblade ever did . Cheers for the vid
No worries at all 🙏 thank you for commenting, such a stunning bike. Ride safe.
Tyvm for the video. I’m getting older and a couple of years ago i switched from the Kawa GTR to a Triumph Tiger soly for the weight. And i have to keep that very hard in mind every time i see this bike. It’s the beauty and the beast all in one. Enjoy it!
Right on!
I have to agree on the mid pegs. I'm 6'2", as a contrast, and I had the same problems. Thanks for your recomendations. I'm off to spend some money.
Haha, sorry this really made me chuckle 😅 so apologies and your welcome 🙏. Ride safe 🙏
I would class the triumph quickshifter as ok the one on my previous bike the quickshifter was smoother (gsxr1000r).Still worth getting on the Triumph though .Great set of videos on your bikes .👌 .
Thank you, Not had the pleasure yet of testing a GSXR1000, Maybe this summer ;)
Thanks for that Carl. I had a K1600GT (as well as the Rocket) and I thought the K had a great quickshifter. I haven't been able to ride my bikes for a while and when I got back on the Rocket yesterday I thought 'this needs a quickshifter' but wondered how good it would be, seems I needn't wonder 😆 Cheers, Brian
I was on the fence for months, as the shifter is NOT cheap for the Rocket, I finally decided to get one fitted, and has transformed the ride for me. It really is a must in my eyes. Best shifter on the market.
Got the GT too, did every mod you mentioned, except my windshield is stock. Thanks for sharing.
No worries. Stunning bike 🙏
you just helped me make my final decision. now i have to buy one for summer 2024
You're welcome ;) - It's an absolute beast, 100% recommend test-ride R and GT to make sure which one is for you.
Good evening and thank you for your input. I guess this video is great for you then, confirming you don’t need to change your bike.
I never had a quick shifter before and was in the fence for months. But decided to go for it, and know I love the bike even more.
Happy riding sir 🙏
Quickshifters are the shizzinit my dude!
I just found you yesterday and you have added the mid pegs and larger windshield. I did both in pretty short order as well. I'm hesitant on the quick shifter because I ride my other bikes and don't want to forget to other the clutch because I ride my rocket the most. You have made me concider remapping the beast. Be safe out there.
Hi, Thanks for the message, Great choices, I didn't think I'd like the Quick Shifter as much as I do... I LOVE IT..... It has transformed the bike, I know what you mean, Lucky I still remember when I jump on the wifes Speed Twin, as for the Map, if you like to use your right hand when give a chance, again, another huge jump for the bike. Ride safe.
Green light on the QS. Trust me, it transformed the bike. I know it has a pricetag but worth every penny 👌
Personally I didnt think it would make that much of a difference, but it’s completely change the bike and how I ride for the better.
Best money I’ve spent on it so far.
Really good video! Have yet to get mine unrestricted, I'll pretty surely also fit a dr. jeckyl and mr. hyde exhaust on once available, the air filter is changed already.. It's such an amazing bike, and yet, words can barely describe it!
And what a stunner she is! You can barely get anywhere without people asking questions, some cagers nearly fall out of their cars even..
100%. We went out for a play yesterday and had a guy in a car newly mount the Kurb as he drove past, gaw in the floor 🤣🫶🙏🚀
Also I’ve now gone back to the Carbon smaller GT screen now I’ve finished touring 🙏 looks much better
@@HastingsKickboxingAcademy I've got the R with sissybar for the girlfriend and the heated grips for myself, the quickshifter because I've LOOVED it on the previous 2021 R1 I've had.
Not gonna put a windshield on because I like the plumb and short silhouette, it's also why I put the wunderkind front and back blinkers on with the evotech tail tidy. About the Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde exhaust that I was looking forward to, today I've heard they buried the project for the Rocket, so now thinking about Zard. Still needs to be road-legal for me. Except maybe the custom dyno tune and the airfilter, but thats kinda hard to find for your average race management center.
Other than that, I feel I have to play around with suspension, but as mentioned coming from an R1, it's pretty pleasant as is.
May I ask which de-restriciton did you do, TuneECU, Bren, TTS..!? Custom tune?
@@terrible2u I used Dartmotorsport for the tunning, and tbh all they have done is "unrestricted" the throttle and allow it to have 100% when asked for and adjust the fuel slightly, but that was it.
Great to hear about your experiences, not sure I'm getting anywhere close to your MPG though!
About to get a quickshift on my R3R Black (once its been repaired after someone drove their car into it!), can't wait!
Also, I had BrenTune remap/derestrict mine, and good grief it really does make a difference doesn't it? I do have a CompWerkes exhaust on mine, which sounds SO good especially going through tunnels, under bridges etc., at high speed. Highly recommend!
Love this, yes makes a MASSIVE difference. I LOVE this bike so much.. Thank you for the comment, Ride safe.
Your right with the pegs
Beautiful bike 👏
I've got a 22 rocket gt and had no idea the engine could be tuned to such an extant. Looking forward to getting the next service done. Great video. Also I only use the clutch to take off or on the really slow stuff so I thought the change shifter wouldn't make any difference. Am I wrong?
I'm now booked in to have de-tuning done next fortnight. The quote is $870, they tell me it takes a full day, then 'Gorgeous' is getting detailed with a ceramic coat straight after. They did the same model a couple of weeks ago and got an extra 30 horsepower out of it.
Update: The work has been done and it looks and rides great. After the de tuning, it looks like I can get about another 1k revs before hitting redline and about 20 something extra h.p. I have limited the enhancement to 'sports' mode only, so I can ride normally in 'ride' mode. So far I haven't gotten out of 'sport' it rides so well, and definitely is more spirited off the lights. Love it, but unless you have a thousand dollars laying around, it's not necessary.
Great video, thank you. I also have a GT Triple Black with mid-pegs and quick shifter. I noticed your custom windscreen. Looks great! Not too big nor obvious, you barely notice it. Do you like it? What is the material and where did you get it?
Hi. Thank you for your kind words.
Great choose on bike. 😂. Sorry for the slow reply I’m away atm so not much Wi-Fi 😢.
It’s a great screen and a good price. £100 or so, from Powerbronze, straight from their website.
And you’re right. It’s big enough for wind deflection, but doesn’t look like some I’ve seen. Where it looks like someone has slapped a patio door on the front 😅
I still prefer the look on the small GT screen, I’ve got a Carbon one for added coolness.
But for long miles and now it’s getting colder I’d defo helps having the bigger one.
Carl, nice bike man. I just bought a new Rocket 3R Chrome and have all of 12 miles on the odometer. It’s too cold for me to ride so I’m waiting for better weather. Can’t wait!
Thanks for the video. Nice to hear about the quick shifter and unrestricting the motor. Curious, did you install the quick shifter? Is it simple? An off-topic question, do they only allow white cars in your neighborhood?
Thanks buddy, and wow 12 miles - LOVE that... and yep, it's not fun in this temp and lesser grip 🤪 can really catch you off guard. I was on the fence for months with the quick shifter, and thought do I reeeeeeeeally need it? and now I WOULDN'T be without it, it's so much better on the rocket than say a Speed triple, Tiger, Diavel etc, due to the amount of torque... and NOPE Gedges Triump fitted it...
and off topic, funny you noticed, 😂and YEAH, other colours may not move in...lol 7 houses and 9 white cars 😍
Great video
Thank you
Unlike you, I have 180cm and have slightly longer legs and hands to typical figure. I am happy with front pegs, but I would prefer R handlebars, because in the seat I feel that there could be maybe 2-3 cm more space. But the dealer convinced me that this triangle is not comfortable for longer trips, so I have standard GT configuration. I don't have experience with quickshifter, so I don't miss it.
Quite literally every car in your street is white? Why? And 50% are bmw’s 🤷♂️ It’s the oddest thing I’ve ever seen! Do they all own Rocket 3GT’s too? Is everyone keeping up with each other! Good overview… be careful on that absolute beast of a bike!! 👍🏻
Haha. Good spot 🙏
There 7 houses, with 9 white cars all in all 😅 personally I love white cars and guess the neighbours did too ;).
And thankfully not, no one else rides, so we’re safe - for now 😅
Thank you buddy. Ride safe 🙏
Currently, on a BMW RT which i love but it's too touring-focused. Am now looking for a "Cruiser style" bike that i can do a holiday trip now and then. HD no thanks. Finding a low seat height these days is a nightmare. I've tried the R1800 and found the riding position cramped giving me pain in the hips after an hour and way too much stretch to the bars. Like you, i have a 29" inseam and short arms. I've tested a GT but was only allowed half an hour, so really not long enough but in that time except for the forward pegs, it fitted my "Hamster" body. Thanks to your videos i made the decision to buy one With quick shift and mid pegs. Do you know how long it takes for delivery? BMW quoted4 plus months:(. On the Triumph site and dealer, i am led to believe the bike comes with 160bhp out of the crate. Also with the weight do the tyres last long. Am used to 7-8 thou out of a set. Would you say it is comfortable for tour of Scotland, the rest of the year i would be on A and B roads. Thanks in advance. Iain
Hi Ian and thanks for you questions.
Mid pegs 100% TRANSFORMS the bike, so much more control having you feet under you.
I still LOVE mine 🙏
I believe you right on the figures.
Out the box there amazing. Mine is de-restricted, and it’s a savage monster. 👹
Tyres wise, I honestly couldn’t answer that. Mine have done 3000 now and there still LOADS left, and I don’t just potter about 😅
Time wise, tough one, I hear there is a waiting list. So fingers crossed for you.
Happy riding 🎉
Another great review. Mine should be delivered in a week or two; just waiting on the mid mount pegs mounting kit to arrive for the dealer to fit. I love the idea of remapping the ECU but the dealer said I would loose my warranty on the engine if I did. I’m already getting Werks slip on exhaust and loose warranty on future issues with the headers back. Interested in your thoughts on that for the ECU. I’ve also ordered a Evotech Performance Tail Tidy and the triumph scrolling LED indicators; which tail tidy did you get?
Thank you for the feedback and comment.
Your going to love the bike, warranty wise, honestly not 100%. As I didn’t have it tuned, more adjusted as there where no ECU changes or extra bolt on parts.
It’s ALWAYS a risk when we start playing around with them 😳 but then so is going over 70mph 😂
For me the reward out ways the risk personally. But i completely get your reservation on this.
Not sure if that helps 🫣
I’d love to hear your pipes once there on 🙏👊
As for the tail tidy, it was in the bike when I brought it, but it looks like the standard side mount that’s on eBay. With the tiny little LED indicators.
Great videos on the Rocket 3 R and GT. How is heat in legs? Are the mid pegs a bit better with heat on legs than the forward pegs?
Hi, Thank you, and yes they are, BTH the only time I feel heat is in traffic when its 30 degrees plus, which is all of 2 times a year, other than that, never been an issue at all.
Is the ride the same on both the gt and the r? One guy said the gt rides better. What you say? Thank you for your videos on this bike. I am looking to buy one.
Hi, thanks for the question, and no there are differences, The R is defo a more aggressive style, the handlebars and peg position really makes a BIG difference, The R is better if you LOVE attacking corners and going out with H2's on an early Sunday blast!
The GT is a lot better for a cruise, and a faster ride out, I have short legs so NEEDED the mid-peek, but this then made the GT more responsive and gave me (personally) a real happy medium... I went out for my first blast this year, and it's AWESOME...
If you're a bit of a cruiser-type GT!
If you like a little fun GT with Mid pegs!
If you're a racer/track person R!
Hope that makes sense/helps. - They both are great and I don't think you be disappointed.
Happy rider buddy.
@@HastingsKickboxingAcademy Thanks for the reply,my question should have been,is there any difference in the suspension itself?
@@kilpel2 - Honesly nooooooo idea.... I would say the GT feels softer, more forgiving like a Bentley, the R little more like a lowered car, M4 etc.
dear friend hello
i m about to buy one of this bike, and i watched with great interest the video of the improvements you have made.
on this i have two questions
1. quick shifter is it a factory accessory?
2. is the mapping done at an authorised workshop?
can you give me a description of what changed from factory settings?
changing the factory settings is there a chance of damage to the engine???
thanks
Kostas from Greece
Hi and thank you, Its an awesome bike you won't be disappointed.
1 - Yes, Triumph fitted my, Free when you buy it from them.
2 - It was mapped by a Race team, that works independently, I believe Triumph can do it, but they didn't have a rolling road to test the power outputs...
They "Unristricked" the throttle opening sensors, allowing 100% instead of the 60% from factory.
@HastingsKickboxingAcademy I see!!
Many thanks for your prompt reply!!!
I ll follow your advice, and I wish you all the best
With it unrestricted how does it compare to the Diavel now? I’ve been looking at both.
Honestly, Unless your on the track or can push that hard on the road (I don't) Id say there the same, I went out yesterday, the first time in a while, 9 degrees and greasy, the traction light on and sliding every mile, and I was trying to play nicely. I just prefer how the Rocket Rides and looks over the Diavel, that said my buddy has a Diavel and he prefurs his... I think he just wont admit the Rocket is cooler.. ;)
Trying to find some where to get mine mapped so far not looking good, I'm in Manchester
Yeah, sorry I couldn’t help you there I’m affaid. I have been told the Triumph deals can do it with their software. But don’t like too
@@HastingsKickboxingAcademy i’ve asked and they can’t
@@twowheels4689 Boooooooo
Great video! I've had neck surgery and don't like too much wind blowing my head back, how well does that windshield keep the wind off your head?? I'm also 5'7" with short legs lol
LOL - Feel your pain with the legs... The standard GT screen is ok, but the larger one I put on, 100% makes a difference, especially above 70 ;)
@@HastingsKickboxingAcademy What make/model is that windshield??
@@webdesign6776 Google Bronze windscreen.
Did you find the exhaust was louder after the ecu tune?
Great question, and the simple answer is yes.
But only by 5-10%. So only fractionally louder, what is has done is added a much sexier tone, especially on full throttle, a lot more induction deeper grunt grow, as it’s added 30% more suction 🫣🤣🙏 and who doesn’t live that.
Hope that helps/makes sense.
Could you tell me please where I can get the windshield you have on your motorcycle?
Of course, If you google Powerbronze screen there on their web site.
@@HastingsKickboxingAcademy OK. Thanks.
Is this quickshifter both up n down?
Do you know if you get 22mm security chain through the front or rear wheel.
Hi, Great question, to be honest, I'm not 100% sure, I do have a VERY big chain on mine, not sure if its a 22mm, but it was the biggest in the store so I would say yes it does the holes are quite big.
@@HastingsKickboxingAcademy The biggest chain I've seen is the squire behemoth..22mm..or the Oxford beast..22mm.. squire seems the best choice although the hip lock dx1000 d lock is the best anti angle grinder resistant.
So just had a measure and my
Chain is 12mm thick, 50mm wide links and fits easy. So I’m guessing a 20mm would be tighter but may go.
Shall I get one ? 🤔
I love mine ❤
Is that stock exhaust?
Can you flat foot the bike. Considering this or the bobber ??
Sorry not sure what you mean by flat foot??
When you sit on it are your feet flat on ground ??
Sorry yes I got ya.
No, I’m 5’7”. But I’m super short in the leg. 28”. Both legs down I’m about 1” away of both heels. 👠
1 foot down. Yes easy and the big is very well balanced.