Thanks for the video. Man you made it so easy taking that big pipe off from the throttle body. I struggled, in the end i just undid the intercooler part of the pipe. It was a tuff job today started 7.30am till 2pm was a pain of a job. But worth it now. I am deleting the flaps since mine are showing sign of oil leak and movement. Ive also decided to spray WD40 on the glow plugs, when engine was walm so i can replace them with new ones.
Each pair of flaps can be pulled out with the oval holder, you don’t need or want to chisel them. Other instructional videos show this in a simpler fashion.
Hello, Did you remove the metal copper looking pipe that holds the flaps together inside the manifold after knocking the flaps out? Thanks great video too 😊
just remove mine on a 123d at 130000 miles the gunk was very bad, the flaps had lots of play but luckily havent broken down (they would proably do in the next 1000 miles)
I have Diesel leaking (at injector #1) at the back of the engine and also gas leaking. I've replaced the seal and cleaned everything up nice and tidy and after a bit over a day (40 miles driven aprox.) the problem is back as it was. I don't know what else I can do. Here is a link to a video showing the problem. @ Slacky power, fumes in the cabin, very bad fuel milage, These are the symptoms. At times I get the P0402 code (EGR related) but that wasn't the case when it was working fine + I had the inlet manifold, throttle body and egr cleaned recently with swirl flaps delete. Any suggestions, please? Thank you!!!
These engines aren't prone to swirl flap failure, also I think they're plastic on this engine compared to metal on previous engines, if you've got the previous generation M47 engine I'd recommend swirl flap removal.
this is true, i dunno why he removed the swirl flaps on a N47, in the older 2.0d it was very common to happen and they would get sucked into the intake, but on this newer engine it's not a problem, the worse problem on the N47 is the timming chain
@@canas4182 it’s not impossible for swirl flaps to fail but unusual on the N47, I don’t know how true it is but I think disconnecting the actuator prevents the problem also
@@robbieshaft there was some play on the shaft I had an annoying squeak also after turning the car OFF there was a big judder, so checked the inlet and found oil leaking from the actuator, I recommend deleting them even on the N47
So you basicaly just smashed the shaft and the swirl flaps with a hammer and a screw driver, pulled them out of the intake manifold, plugged the hole where the shaft was moved by the little rotating thing and put the flap motor back in its place? Am I mistaken ?
this swirl flaps- why are these removed? what role do these have? should they be removed? what happens if they are removed? and when should they be removed?
This “modification” is the best way to ruin the drive of your car. You will need to do a very costly re-map to ensure the low down response. You can buy a quality after market inlet manifold with a new actuator very inexpensively and maintain the original map.
Hi, are you in Ireland and if so would you be available to change swirls on 2008 e61 520d lci,if you can give me a rough idea of cost and time you need the car for... Thanks.
hello could i ask does the engine code N47 D20 C;N47 D20 A have the swirl flaps and also i have a small oil leak at the top where the large black pipe is going into the top of the engine i think the pipe is coming from the oil cooler under the radiator is it serious or is it normal to have a little oil seeping out there and what actually causes the leak the milage on my car is 120 thousand miles its a 520d lci manual gearbox december 2008 thank you very much best regards james
How is that saving money..? I just want to know if I need any specific tools to remove the manifold, like torx sockets etc. You didn’t specify in the video what tools to use..
this swirl flaps- why are these removed? what role do these have? should they be removed? what happens if they are removed? and when should they be removed?
@@fikretnebija7483 they make the air f;low, flow diffrenet to allow more air into the cylinders to help with power lower in the rev range. people remove them has they have been known to break and be sucked into the engine causing hugh damage and needing a new engine. hope this helps as this is as i understand it.im not a mechanic
Hi, i have a problem with this one too. This pipe is littlebit loose, and is rattling when engine is working. When i hold it, rattling stops. Does this pipe suppose to have o ring inside or something?
@@FixYOURride13 I cleaned the airflow censor and the airintake today. I already feel a big difference. I wonder how it will run when i clean al that shit ! Greetings and thankyou for your fast response !
If i put the intake manifold of the e87 without flaps at all in my e92 320d that should have the flaps. Them seem to be identically (the difference is only that one have the flaps and the other dont) Does it fit properly? what i should do with the motor flap to avoid errors? Wish you read this and respond. Thank you
This won't work. The intake manifold from the lower end N47 Engines such as the 316d and 318d don't have the motor to change the flaps, you will always get fault codes on your dash and in the fault code readin, also your DPF(diesel particle filter) won't work properly after that.
DennisMeier911 yeah but if i enter in the central unit and code something maybe i get succes. For the dpf yes, you should be right but this week i will try to replace it.
Hey I heard that E90 318d N47 intake manifold differs a bit from this. And it is more stable. Maybe it comes without swirl flaps? Can someone explain if it is true?
Hi bro can you help me, i just took out my inlet manifold, removed the flaps and cleaned it. Can you tell me how do I "seal" the hole for the long stick that rotates the flaps? I am thinking of adding a bolt and a nut and a flat washer ( probably rubber ). or is there better solution? thanks a lot.
FixYOURride13 hi thanks for reply. I am trying to seal the hole at 2:46 . Unfortunately I dont have the plastic arm, I lost it... should i do with bolt and nut or should i try to find the plastic arm? Btw what you think when you say a new bumper, what is it? Is it a rubber circular thing?
@@FixYOURride13 , I just unmounted the intake manifold and the actuator for inspection and ,when i put it back , the actuator make noise . The flaps are ok . I dont know if this noise is normal . Thanks for answer !
FixYOURride13 hello, okay so do you just put the rod back in without the flaps then? And what do you do about getting the flaps off the rod? Just slide them to the end until they fall off?
@@sergiomendes8684, silver pipe? Like you can see my one removed w/o problem, but it is possible have trouble with removed all depend pipe oring condition.
George Austers Hi, The owner does not complain about lack of power, and even talk about improving power. Claims that fuel burns have dropped by 1 liter. It is maintained at 5.5 L / 100km
Hi, i come back with a new problem :) . Driving the car, I felt a lack of power, as if the turbo would not work. On the tester I have the following errors: 4530 Charge-air pressure control 4CD0 Boost Pressure Controller 3FF0 Air Flow Meter From what I've read, I think the problem is a part called: "Pressure converter, turbocharger" Do you know its position? This is a BMW E91, 320D, 2008, N47 Thank you !
Hi, after clear the errors which one is back? But anyway time to check te turbo selenoid, turbo actuator, vacuum line, turbo charger, or check again the inlet flaps, last error cud be air flow meter it self I'm ony guessed :)
@@vio6485 try swapped turbo selenoid with EGR selenoid, clear errors and drive, if the error turbo system will be back it is not the selenoid if the error be back with EGR system problem is in selenoid, first step.
I have a 320d n47 2008 and done about 100k kms (mostly city drving). do you think a complete clean of carbon build up can reduce idle noise, increase fuel economy and power? Thanks in advance!
@@louislo8487 hi, with my experience after removing the flaps car increased fuel economy , filling more power, No engine light ON, all positive things only. With your idling noise better go to som mechanik for recognize the sound.
Thanks for the video. Man you made it so easy taking that big pipe off from the throttle body. I struggled, in the end i just undid the intercooler part of the pipe.
It was a tuff job today started 7.30am till 2pm was a pain of a job. But worth it now. I am deleting the flaps since mine are showing sign of oil leak and movement.
Ive also decided to spray WD40 on the glow plugs, when engine was walm so i can replace them with new ones.
Each pair of flaps can be pulled out with the oval holder, you don’t need or want to chisel them. Other instructional videos show this in a simpler fashion.
Hello, Did you remove the metal copper looking pipe that holds the flaps together inside the manifold after knocking the flaps out? Thanks great video too 😊
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just remove mine on a 123d at 130000 miles the gunk was very bad, the flaps had lots of play but luckily havent broken down (they would proably do in the next 1000 miles)
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I have Diesel leaking (at injector #1) at the back of the engine and also gas leaking. I've replaced the seal and cleaned everything up nice and tidy and after a bit over a day (40 miles driven aprox.) the problem is back as it was. I don't know what else I can do. Here is a link to a video showing the problem. @ Slacky power, fumes in the cabin, very bad fuel milage, These are the symptoms. At times I get the P0402 code (EGR related) but that wasn't the case when it was working fine + I had the inlet manifold, throttle body and egr cleaned recently with swirl flaps delete. Any suggestions, please? Thank you!!!
Great video by the way
These engines aren't prone to swirl flap failure, also I think they're plastic on this engine compared to metal on previous engines, if you've got the previous generation M47 engine I'd recommend swirl flap removal.
this is true, i dunno why he removed the swirl flaps on a N47, in the older 2.0d it was very common to happen and they would get sucked into the intake, but on this newer engine it's not a problem, the worse problem on the N47 is the timming chain
@@TheOxtrom my n47 sucked them in and got destroyed :)
On my n47 177 their shaft leaked oil and moved the engine squeaked … my car lost some power, I deleted them and now everything is fine
@@canas4182 it’s not impossible for swirl flaps to fail but unusual on the N47, I don’t know how true it is but I think disconnecting the actuator prevents the problem also
@@robbieshaft there was some play on the shaft I had an annoying squeak also after turning the car OFF there was a big judder, so checked the inlet and found oil leaking from the actuator, I recommend deleting them even on the N47
So you basicaly just smashed the shaft and the swirl flaps with a hammer and a screw driver, pulled them out of the intake manifold, plugged the hole where the shaft was moved by the little rotating thing and put the flap motor back in its place? Am I mistaken ?
2009 520d Engin’e sound
That’s what I saw lol.
I know a guy whos had a bmw 520d 2008 n47 from new till 290 000 kms and said he's never touched these. Only timing chain at 200k and that's it
A member of my family had prelift E90 320d with 420000kms from new and didn't need to repair swirl flaps nor timing chain.
this swirl flaps- why are these removed? what role do these have? should they be removed? what happens if they are removed? and when should they be removed?
Thanks for the video, how long did it take you to do this
Billy hi, for mechanic 2nd time max 2h
Hay dude I'm having same problem, how much you charge to fix ?
This “modification” is the best way to ruin the drive of your car. You will need to do a very costly re-map to ensure the low down response. You can buy a quality after market inlet manifold with a new actuator very inexpensively and maintain the original map.
Hi, are you in Ireland and if so would you be available to change swirls on 2008 e61 520d lci,if you can give me a rough idea of cost and time you need the car for...
Thanks.
Hi, no problem, found me on FB FixYourRide and text me on messenger.
Will do, thanks.. I'll be in contact tomorrow
Is this same inlet manifolt with bmw 123d, e87, 2008?
Hey, and how many kilometers / miles did the engine run?
Marcus Wilke Hi, 230k mil, motorway mileage...
hello
could i ask does the engine code N47 D20 C;N47 D20 A have the swirl flaps
and also i have a small oil leak at the top where the large black pipe is going into the top of the engine i think the pipe is coming from the oil cooler under the radiator
is it serious or is it normal to have a little oil seeping out there and what actually causes the leak the milage on my car is 120 thousand miles its a 520d lci manual gearbox december 2008
thank you very much
best regards
james
Hi James, I am not a BMW specialist, it will be better if you show your BMW Technician. I do not want to give you false information.
@@FixYOURride13 thanks for your reply
i will get it checked thanks again
best regards
What tools are needed for this job exactly? Also what gaskets must be changed? Thanks
Hi, if you can't self found this information drop the car in to any garage. Safe time and money.
How is that saving money..? I just want to know if I need any specific tools to remove the manifold, like torx sockets etc. You didn’t specify in the video what tools to use..
@@evank107 forgive me, it is not a instruction video it is explained video for you know for what you paying in garage.
FixYOURride13 ahh okay no problem! I thought it was instruction video for the removal! Thanks anyway.
Can you just remove the swirl flaps without adding a blank to the end of the manifold?
hi, I do not recommend this because it will suck the "left air"
this swirl flaps- why are these removed? what role do these have? should they be removed? what happens if they are removed? and when should they be removed?
@@fikretnebija7483 they make the air f;low, flow diffrenet to allow more air into the cylinders to help with power lower in the rev range. people remove them has they have been known to break and be sucked into the engine causing hugh damage and needing a new engine. hope this helps as this is as i understand it.im not a mechanic
hi just bought a 535 d 15000 on the clock wanna get swirl flaps removed how much would a garage charge
Hi, I have no idea, all garage have different price depend level skill and knowledge, ask few, checks opinions about garages etc.....
i have same engine if i want to remove swirl flaps do i need to remap chip and remove dpf too ?
Hi, I think no.
Is that pipe that goes to intake manifold supposed to feel loose? (5:30) It feels loose when I try to move it back and forward by hand.
Hi, it should be loose but not too big, how loose you are have ?
a little bit. But doesn't that mean it's not sealing all the way?
Hi, i have a problem with this one too. This pipe is littlebit loose, and is rattling when engine is working. When i hold it, rattling stops. Does this pipe suppose to have o ring inside or something?
This modification doesent affect your dpf?
Hi, Should not, but this car is remapping and with out dpf filter 😉
The gold bar called the rail mount fell out of my engine I found it on the floor of the garage....what probs have I?
Hi, for no mistake post pictures the bracket by email pls (you will find it on channel information)
After dismantling do you get a check engine light ? Dus it need a reset ?
Hi , all the job is done on ignition Off so any errors not coming, no need any reset or initialisation.
@@FixYOURride13 I cleaned the airflow censor and the airintake today. I already feel a big difference. I wonder how it will run when i clean al that shit ! Greetings and thankyou for your fast response !
If i put the intake manifold of the e87 without flaps at all in my e92 320d that should have the flaps. Them seem to be identically (the difference is only that one have the flaps and the other dont) Does it fit properly? what i should do with the motor flap to avoid errors? Wish you read this and respond. Thank you
Kesi26 hi, unfortunately I have no idea, try and write for all is it possible or not, the flap motor you can left on engine plugin to the loom.
This won't work. The intake manifold from the lower end N47 Engines such as the 316d and 318d don't have the motor to change the flaps, you will always get fault codes on your dash and in the fault code readin, also your DPF(diesel particle filter) won't work properly after that.
DennisMeier911 yeah but if i enter in the central unit and code something maybe i get succes. For the dpf yes, you should be right but this week i will try to replace it.
DennisMeier911 did you try it yourself this or just you imagine that wont work?
@@DennisMeier911 you can just mount the flap motor to the 16/18d intake manifold and there by you wont have any fault codes.
Hey
I heard that E90 318d N47 intake manifold differs a bit from this. And it is more stable. Maybe it comes without swirl flaps?
Can someone explain if it is true?
From what a trusted mechanic told me, the 318D N47 has no flaps and it fits plug and play into the 320D.
@@robertb7326 would this be the same for an e91 318d N47 ?
@@stevelake9333 yes and I can confirm it fits plug and play. I switched mine to the one with no flaps.
Hi bro can you help me, i just took out my inlet manifold, removed the flaps and cleaned it. Can you tell me how do I "seal" the hole for the long stick that rotates the flaps?
I am thinking of adding a bolt and a nut and a flat washer ( probably rubber ). or is there better solution? thanks a lot.
Hi, you can us the orginal plug witch new bumper, watch the video time 2:18 and 3:29 - 4:00
FixYOURride13 hi thanks for reply. I am trying to seal the hole at 2:46 . Unfortunately I dont have the plastic arm, I lost it... should i do with bolt and nut or should i try to find the plastic arm? Btw what you think when you say a new bumper, what is it? Is it a rubber circular thing?
@@blagoja3294 hi, yes it is any rubber plug , but you have to close te hole after shaft just be careful the plug will not be sucked into the engine.
The engine that acts on the flaps, is it normal to hear the noise from it? The noise stops after 1-2 minutes after we stopped the engine.
Hi , sorry I don't know , I never checked flap motor behavior after stop the engine .but possibly it is cleaning flaps processing
@@FixYOURride13 , I just unmounted the intake manifold and the actuator for inspection and ,when i put it back , the actuator make noise .
The flaps are ok .
I dont know if this noise is normal .
Thanks for answer !
@@vio6485 ...Post me video with this noise on email I will try to help you . Email you found in channel Information ;)
Email sent ,thanks!
@@vio6485 hi,
if before removed was different, something goes wrong, 100% can't
working like that.
do I have to disconnect the battery before I start?
Hi, no it was not nessery
What size blanks are they on that engine? 33mm or 22mm?
karl miller Hi, no blanks need
FixYOURride13 hello, okay so do you just put the rod back in without the flaps then? And what do you do about getting the flaps off the rod? Just slide them to the end until they fall off?
karl miller ...watch again from 3.30 time.
FixYOURride13 oh my mistake so you pull the rod out first then hammer the flaps out
karl miller ...yes you right now :)
I can't remove that pipe
It is so hard to remove ?
Hi, witch one... What video time?
11:40
@@sergiomendes8684, silver pipe? Like you can see my one removed w/o problem, but it is possible have trouble with removed all depend pipe oring condition.
@@FixYOURride13 i will try again, thank's for help ✌
You lose a lot of torque low down. Remove your EGR and get a new manifold :)
George Austers Hi, The owner does not complain about lack of power, and even talk about improving power. Claims that fuel burns have dropped by 1 liter. It is maintained at 5.5 L / 100km
George tel:16 11 7 190 947 Austers
A lot of people forget to reset the throttle adaptation after this job. If you don’t do that, you lose heaps of low down torque.
@@livndays45 how is that performed?
You'll lose Torque and MPG
Hi, no, I have improved
at least he wont loose the engine if a swirl flaps break down and goes inside the cylinder
@@FixYOURride13 Impossible
Hi, i come back with a new problem :) .
Driving the car, I felt a lack of power, as if the turbo would not work.
On the tester I have the following errors:
4530 Charge-air pressure control
4CD0 Boost Pressure Controller
3FF0 Air Flow Meter
From what I've read, I think the problem is a part called: "Pressure converter, turbocharger"
Do you know its position?
This is a BMW E91, 320D, 2008, N47
Thank you !
Hi, after clear the errors which one is back? But anyway time to check te turbo selenoid, turbo actuator, vacuum line, turbo charger, or check again the inlet flaps, last error cud be air flow meter it self I'm ony guessed :)
After I clear the errors, "4CD0 boost pressure controller" returns.
"Selenoid turbo", where is it positioned?
@@vio6485... Check Google I don't have any bmw at the moment, sorry
Unfortunately, for my engine, I didn't find much information.
@@vio6485 try swapped turbo selenoid with EGR selenoid, clear errors and drive, if the error turbo system will be back it is not the selenoid if the error be back with EGR system problem is in selenoid, first step.
how many kms did this do
Hi, the car had 230k mil.
I have a 320d n47 2008 and done about 100k kms (mostly city drving). do you think a complete clean of carbon build up can reduce idle noise, increase fuel economy and power? Thanks in advance!
@@louislo8487 hi, with my experience after removing the flaps car increased fuel economy , filling more power, No engine light ON, all positive things only. With your idling noise better go to som mechanik for recognize the sound.
ok thanks so much
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