MA-030EVO Review Mini-Z AWD
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- čas přidán 17. 10. 2019
- Quick video reviewing the new MA-030EVO. I’m trying something different with this video by writing a script & attempting to sound more professional. Please let me know what you you think down in the comments.
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Hello BMR 3 wow finally someone who is interested in mini z drifting as I am but with little knowledge been watching all your videos and you have helped me out . I am thinking about getting the new MA-030EVO as you and I have the same radio Please keep making videos on drifting thank you
acmeradioinc I’m glad my videos have been helping you! 030EVO is a great car & I highly recommend it.
I will keep making videos for sure! What kind of drift videos would you want to see? More setup & build videos, explanation videos, videos of the car drifting, or tips on how to get better at drifting?
That chassis set up with those wheels looks totally sweet - you've defo got a drift king there!
I love the 030, its kinda complex to disassemble but the performance is amazing!
Great timing, just put down for one and some NB-4 radio modules. Also loving those tyres.
I had wondered how much of an improvement the MA-030 would be but after seeing you drift and mention how tight it turns i am sold. it is worth mentioning that this uses the 5 gear servo system from the MR-03 and i found this significantly more precise on the FWD cars
Blitz Works dang it! I knew I forgot to mention something & the 5 gear servo was a huge selling point for me!
What did you think of the video? I have very little editing skills & this was my first attempt at voicing over different shots. I hope it turned out well, but I can’t tell since I made the video 😂
I like your content. Will definitely get one of these one day.
Glad to hear it & thanks man! These are addicting little buggers
I’m definitely a fan of the mini rc’s. I have two 1/24 scale rock climbers, and I really enjoy the amount of design that goes into them. I know it will be the same with this. I may have some questions for you in the future. You earned a subscriber.
Cool video!
Thank you for the nice comment!
I was really debating on the 020s and 030 evo. Main deciding factor for me was the s13 body. I’m glad you clarified that the 030 doesn’t fit 90mm bodies.
suprastar26 yep I’m really disappointed the 030 is not compatible with the S13 body, as you can tell from my other videos I’m quite fond of that shell.
Hopefully Kyosho will release a 90mm conversion kit in the future, but currently there is no word. I will post a video if they ever announce it lol
Perfect review for a great car.
Beaver's Hobby WOW thank you for the kind words!! 🤩 I was actually trying to emulate your style of videos by writing a script & trying to include some different angles shots with voice over.
Really appreciate the comment! I spent over 4 hours editing this video, when I normally spend about 20 min, but I think it was worth it & the video turned out well.
But I forgot to mention the dang 5 gear servo! That’s one of the biggest selling points & strongest assets for this car. Keep kicking myself for forgetting to mention that :(
@@BMR3 It's indeed another selling point of Mini-Z. The servo is rapid and super precise no matter car you choose. If you want as fast and precise servo for other cars you're probably looking at $40 servo.
@@BMR3 A copy of the Beaver, nice! Than I've to abo it;)
@@BeaversHobby & @BMR 3 I would like to see a video how to switch between drift and race. So what tires and other parts I need and how to adjust it properly and maybe a tool recommendation for that.
@@lazyman1011 Basically you should have 2 sets of wheels with appropriate offset of the body then one set to install drift tyres of your choice (Mini-Z original or DS Racing according to your floor) and the other set for grip tyres of your choice, again, depends on the track surface. And then some springs for setup MA-030 uses MA-020 front springs and MA-010 springs at the back if you use standard rear pod.
For drifting: soft front, med-hard rear. For touring: hard front, soft rear.
The tool you need for Mini-Z are Philips screwdriver (available in general store) and wheel hex nut which is included with the car.
Thanks for this video i was just wondering, does this come with basic plastic parts needed to adjust or play around with camber and toe options?
... also, does it come with any receiver or do you need to purchase specific receivers for your controller?
Many thanks
would i be able to swap over the body from the ma020 wrc impreza to this?.. or is this chassis not the right size? also, is this chassis better suited for racing than the ma020?
Great video! I think your videos overall are quite enjoyable, no issues with the format.
My MA-030EVO only just started to ship yesterday as the shop had to backorder my NB4 receiver for the car. Can't wait! (NB4 already arrived LOL)
Btw I think the lower position of the batteries across the bottom may actually lower the COG overall(compared to 020), assuming the batteries are heavier than the motor.
But compared to a MR03 the COG is probably higher.
Also, are the swing arms plastic like in the MA-020?
Auranapse Thank you for the feedback, much appreciated!
I agree that the center of gravity is lower then the 020, not to mention much more balanced! This car performs great, just needs a touch of mods (locked rear diff.) and you will be amazed. In my option it’s a huge step up from the 020 & the evo motor is crazy on power! ButI think I will downgrade to the new 4100kv green motor.
I’m sure the swing arms are plastic, I would be shocked if they weren’t. I can check when I pull the car apart to install the solid axle & do the 94mm conversion.
@@BMR3 Cool, I've ordered 2 ball diffs instead and will probably mess around with them to get a setup I want that can do both grip and drift.
As for the motor I would probably adjust the throttle curves to make it easier to control. I also went to get a 12000kv despite knowing it being way too fast and uncontrollable. Got it as I'm curious on what this thing can do. Would setup a throttle limiter that toggles when I push the flappy paddles on my NB4 xD. If that works then I'll keep it in.
I'll probably get some metal swing arms then. Is the pinion gears the same as on the 020? I may just take parts off my 020 to put on the 030
Auranapse Bahahaha you Sir are a Mad Man! 12000kv?! That’s like putting a blown V8 into the car lol
Only draw back to that much motor is reduced efficiency, I’m sure the car would be fun, but you would have reduced battery life. That’s why I want to down grade my motor, in this video I’m literally using the tiniest amount of throttle possible & it’s still almost to much. A 4100kv motor will run cooler & have longer battery life, that’s the only reason I’m considering switching.
Using the paddles to switch the amount of power actually sounds really cool & fun tho! Like shifting gears for a micro car!
Yeah I think metal swing arms are a good idea, especially if you already have the front end cracked open.
No the pinion & spur gear are exclusive to the Ma-030 so you will not be able to swap those with your 020. Funny you ask, I already have plans to make a MA-030 compatibility video. I have the parts all marked out for what’s what, I just need to sit down and film it.
What do you think, should I focus on the 030 compatibility video this weekend, or install all my ceramic bearings in the 020? I won’t have time for both videos, & the ceramic bearings require a full teardown & reassembly so that might helps some people out. Plus I feel like the 020 is getting neglected since I received the 030 lol!
@@BMR3 It's because I had the paddles that gave me the idea of having the 12000kv. Hopefully I can get it under control hahaha. Battery life isn't really a huge concern as these things last pretty long already, have a couple of rechargeable AAAs, and I rarely play past 1 or 2 full sets of AAAs.
I think you can do the ceramic bearings on the 020 first haha. I guess while the 020 is apart you could tear the 030 apart and see if they used any common parts. I'd imagine the DWS for the 030 can be put onto the 020 too.
Actually while we were having this convo, I was just watching beaver's teardown and the pinion looks like it may be something I could reuse(will probably try once I get mine), though the spur is completely different.
Auranapse I know what you mean, the batteries last pretty long and I rarely play past 2 packs as well.
According to the manual, it says the pinion & spur are exclusive to the ma030 & FWD, but hey Kyosho could be wrong (or just misleading so people buy more parts).
Haha I don’t think I will tear down both cars at the same time, that would be too many tiny bits to manage & it would take forever.
I do know that the entire rear end (the parts that disconnect from the chassis) are universally comparable for any AWD car, be it 010, 030, or 030 & this goes for the DWS as well.
Whay are some of the transmitters(receiver included) that are compatible with this for under 70$
Hello, BMR
Question: Does matching the body's offset matter a ton? ...asking b/c i never considered matching it and i just bought random narrow and wide rims lol
Yes offset is very important, if you have to small of an off set or too narrow the rims won’t look right. Conversely if the offset is too large then the rims can stick out of the body & end up rubbing, which will cause all kinds of steering issues.
It’s best to match the offset as close as possible, but you can always adjust it to what you think looks best (performance be damned)
Is this compatible with the mini z r33 gtr nismo body?
Hey BMR, watched most of your videos and got a ma-030 evo with r32 body. I was trying to convert the wheelbase to 94mm but the 94mm centershaft did not have any gear on the end like the 98mm one. Did you just buy a separate centershaft or am i missing something? Thanks in advanced.
¡Hola, amigo! ¿Pudiste convertirlo a 94 mm?
Hello, great vids.
One question are the awd cars just for drifting? I only owned RWD versions and I use them for racing at our local hobby shop. Just wondering if these can be set up for racing as well?
dmgp1f thank you for the subscription & kind words regarding my videos :^)
Yep these can be set up for touring/racing & this one would be particularly good since it uses the same 5 gear servo the RWD cars use.
I really wish I had a local hobby store that raced! I would prefer to race, but since it’s just me alone, I drift lol
@@BMR3 thank you so much for the reply. I am truly loving the vids, it really show your passion and can tell the effort you put into them, greatly appreciate the hard work.
I just got lucky the owner fell in love with these little racers
@@BMR3 same here
💯th like 🤣🤣🤣 😆
Lol yes it is quite the mile stone for me! First video to receive 100 likes 😸
Anyone know where to find these? Out of stock everywhere I look!
Hopefully they bring out a rtr kit, I’d buy it straight away, currently looking at what I should get, want an initial d body, but atm they don’t seem to be many in the rtr kits anymore, hopefully just because of everything that’s been happening this year 🤷♂️
@Oh Kay that would be pretty awesome, I just ordered an MA-020 rtr kit, hopefully they don’t bring out the 030evo rtr too soon, or I’ll wish I waited 😂😓
@Oh Kay Ive been working right thru (delivery driver) plus an in australia where it has been fairly limited infection, very lucky here... but I tend to stay home when I’m not working anyway so look forward to setting up a track indoors to practice drifting and playing with the settings... I ordered the solid rear axel and front one way with it, so look forward to playing around with it and all that fun stuff 😁 used to have a couple 1/10 scale drift cars, electric and nitro many years ago and they were great fun but u need lots of space, especially the nitro car 😬
@Oh Kay the technology is great now too, like all the electronics they have for them are pretty much as good as the 1/10 stuff but as u say, much more convenient when u can literally use them on a table top 😁 1/10 are still great, maybe when I get my own property and can build a bigger outdoor track I’ll get a 1/10 drift/touring or buggy... but till then I’ll be playing with the mini z drifter, maybe even get a mini z crawler, they seem to be pretty good as far as the crawlers go also 😊
@Oh Kay yeah with the aaa batteries supposed to get about an hr of run time it sounds like from videos, which is awesome! Better than most, just need a few rechargeables so u can swap em out and keep running it, might need to get a second charger and some more rechargeables when my 020 gets here 😬 can’t wait 😁
@Oh Kay got the initial d FD rx7 (yellow one)
Great videos. What are the desired camber setting for drifting? I have the front one way and solid rear diff already installed. Thanks!
Daniel Jimenez the solid rear axle & front one way will have the biggest impact on steering characteristics. I feel like the setup has negligible effect when drifting once you have upgraded the differentials. It’s not like we are racing & turning lap times, so the setup is not as important. As long as the car feels predictable, then you are good.
If you really want to adjust the camber, then I would look at your tier ware. You want the tier ware to radiate directly from the middle of the tier, so you ensure the tiers are remaking flat in the corner. If the tier ware is more on one edge, then I would check into swapping the camber set up.
BMR 3 Great advise on camber setup. And yeah, at this scale, tuning is more for the “fun of it”. Thanks and keep the great videos coming!
BMR 3 Also, is your car setup wide or narrow up front?
Daniel Jimenez thank you for the kind words & the support! Much appreciated man, it’s awesome to hear people enjoy my content lol
You hit the nail on the head, yup tuning is more for the fun of building & possibly aesthetics. Some people just want to bling out their car(like me with the 020), & other just like the look of the super camber wheel tilt.
I will keep the videos coming for sure! I just receive a big box of parts to revive my 020 build ;) stay tuned.
BMR 3 Fun!!
Do you suggest this chasis or the RWD for drifting? I'm hearing all kinds of conflicting info.
No, this is an AWD chassis & will not have nearly enough steering angle to be converted to a RWD drifter. The MA-030Evo is the king of AWD micro drifting, not RWD.
For RWD you need a dedicated kit like the Drift Art 2.5 Summer Edition or the Atomic DRZv2
So on a micro-scale AWD can still be a drift car? On a 1:10 scale, AWD is a rally and RWD is the true drift class. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks!
no its the same. AWD do more of a power slide then true drifting
You can pick up a front wheel drive ready to run and convert it.
Yup, Beaver has a video covering the conversion process.
How would you compare the EVO 030 vs the GLD or Atomic? I currently have a maxed out MA 020 AWD with Mpower / DWS back.
Apples to Oranges... you cant compare AWD to RWD, its not a fair comparison by any means. RWD has much much greater steering angle which allows for more technical drifting & at much slower speeds.
If I was in your shoes I would just look at RWD & forget the MA-030, its not much different from your maxed out 020 in terms of performance.
@@BMR3 Thank you so much. Currently new into drifting and loving your video, keep up the good work!
What is this 'ICS' that you are talking about? I am getting started with Mini Z. Hence my question.
No worries bro, the ICS is a programming cable that plugs into mini-a Evos. You can pair the ICS leads with the Kyosho software & it will allow you to program the car internally.
A middle motor & AWD would be better? 🤔
Is it possible? 🤔
Like to start drifting 😆
Flying FPV drone so I drift in the air.
Stay safe & take care 🤓🤣😘
The MA-020 has a midship, left side mounted motor & the MA-030 has a forward center mounted motor.
I prefer the ma-030 but you can get a ma-020 if you think it will preform better. I have also made a video on the 020 as well if you want to take a look: czcams.com/video/Z62llFD0vN0/video.html
Drones are very cool but I was never able to learn how to fly it properly LOL
FPV drift car would be very cool ;)
BMR 3 many thnx for your reply, suggestion & tip. will have a look at your vid to have a better perspective ; ) decision. I'd most likeky have to start with something small & just start experimenting with dufferent tunes to fit my drivung style. RC cars & drones are very soecific to each driver, as we all are unique & have different tastes. nothing is bad, just different & should always execpt & appreciate each other, hey I always learned something new & different from someone else which later helped me to change my style & evolve. not copying everyone but from their ideas to build new ones to share, at no cost, coz my love DOESN'T cost a thing ; )
about FPV flying, yes I'd have to admit, FPV drone flying isn't for everyone due to the perspective. for some can cause a lot of dizzyness & change the hobby. my father was a fighter pilot, so flying is somewhere in my blood & love the hobby. mini z drifting, the cars are so cute, just like I like cute women instead of beautiful ones. & drifting had always been a interest for me from gaming, I'm also a gamer ; ) Stay safe & take care, keep postibg those interesting, educational vids.
Born2Fly exactly, I like your style man 😎 it’s better to try things for yourself & find what you like, instead of copying what others are doing! It’s all about tuning to YOUR driving style, not others. Everyone has a different perspective & taste, so what works well for them may not work for you.
If I had a ma020 could I snag the receiver and transmitter for the 030
You can use the same transmitter but the receiver boards are different. Also the Evo board is different from a standard board since it can accept different chips.
will this be good for touring on tile?
Yes it will work just fine, but keep in mind that the motor is forward mounted with a high center of gravity so it’s prone to roll over if your too aggressive with the cornering.
The ma-020 is better suited for touring but the ma-030 works very well too.
Wich mini z have dws suspension out of the box?
none currently on the market. I believe the old MA-020VE came with the DWS, but that line has been discounted
Hey did you get my message on reddit?
Do I have to swap to the 94mm variant or can i put on the Nissian skyline body on it out of the box?
Depends on what skyline you want to use. The R35 is 98mm I believe but if you want to use any of the other skylines you will need to swap to 94mm.
@@BMR3 thank you bro.
@@tysonharrison2566 happy to help brother.
Friend help me please, I already saw all your videos about this chassis but I also saw those of Auranapse and now I do not know whether to buy this or another MA020! Auranapse does not recommend the MA030EVo for drifting as the brushed motor is better for low speeds and you have more control over drifting and instead you say the opposite that this chassis is the king of drifting! Help me choose please! Do you recommend this chassis as my 2nd drifter or better buy another MA020? Best regards!
If you already have the ma-020 then I wouldn’t pick up another.
If I was you, I would look in the the new GL Racing AWD or the Atomic RC AWD chassis. They make the mini-z look like a toy in comparison of both performance & ascetics.
If your willing to try something other than AWD I Highly Highly recommend looking into an Atomic DRZv2
Yo I just saw your drift track! You need a RWD drifter for sure! Like the DRZ V2
@@BMR3 Thank you very much for responding! The video was from a few days ago and now the track already dominate it and more with the body Impreza WRC 2008, I will upload a video my MA020 I still have it in stock but the body helps a lot in handling! And of the chassis models you recommend I don't know where to get them. Aliexpress? I'm from Mex and it's easier to get the mini z from amazon jp! Best regards and thanks a lot!
@@Xavyerzc can you order from china? I will link the chassis I mentioned so you can check them out.
www.rcmart.com/gl-racing-gla-giulia-1-27-4wd-chassis-kit-w-o-servo-esc-gla-giulia-set-00118348?search=Gl%20racing&sort=p.price&order=DESC
www.rcmart.com/atomic-1-27-sz2-shaft-drive-awd-chassis-kit-sz2-kit-00117263?search=Atomic%20&page=4
www.rcmart.com/atomic-1-28-drzv2-1-limited-edition-rwd-drift-chassis-kit-w-o-electronic-drzv2-1-le-kit-00118146?search=Atomic%20&page=2
@@BMR3 🙏 Thank you very much for taking the time to share the links! Now I'm going to check which model to start with! Best regards mate!
Are Mini Z cars performance worth the price compared to like a k989 ? I wanna start drifting 😎🏁?
that's an impossible questions since its so subjective & individual for each person. But if you have seen my channel then you know I will say Mini-z all day 😎
K989 can be modified for RWD tho so its a very hard decision & depends on your skill level with models & extensive modifications.
@@BMR3 thx a lot i ended up i purchasing
a k969 to hold me over until i can spend that mini z money lol 😎
@@BMR3 lol 🤣😎 Mini -z is next on the list .!!✅
Does the 020 have a locked diff
No, all the AWD chassis come with a gear Diff in the front & rear but I made a video on how to DIY lock the stock gear Diff. Here’s a link to the video: czcams.com/video/-4VGCOyR7vU/video.html
@@BMR3 thank you very much
@@westinlandis9970 happy to help brother! Let me know if you have any further questions
*looks at my 17 year ~ old mr01* ... xD still works perfectly tho
If it ain’t broke don’t fix it! 😉
just convert a fwd , pretty easy and much cheaper
Nice! & you can use the DWS rear end at 94mm since your using the brushed board (it’s shorter then the evo board)
DWS? What is it?
@@TriNitrate double wishbone suspension
Why and tho
AAA suck tho lol
To each their own. I prefer AAA batteries over lipo, but lipo does provide extra power. Luckily with theses things little micro cars AAA provide more then enough power, plus they run longer then a lipo of the same size.
Yep that's why I ordered not 1 but 2 atomic bz3's by looking at them you'll know who's king