The Mistake That Cost Sven Kramer Olympic Gold | Strangest Moments
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The Olympic Games can strain relationships between athletes and coaches, as Dutch speed skater Sven Kramer discovered at Vancouver 2010.
The most unusual moments from Olympic history are investigated once again to reveal the stranger side of the five rings: bit.do/StMENG
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The fact that Sven had one foot in the outside lane then his coach made him take the inside lane was even more tragic.
Don't trust your couch too much.... You don't had couch look after u all your life... The rule are there to make the game challenging.....
@@campkira I trust my couch 100%. He always has my back when I watch telly.
@@MrVannspreder HAHA
@@campkira my couch can always be trusted for a sit or a good nap whenever.
@@campkira in this sport you listen quite explicitly to your coach.
Poor guy, I don't blame him for being pissed, I'd be furious if that was me.
i guess he left the inside matter between them
Almost 1000 comments
I’ve seen you on the Steven Bradbury video
Lessons I've learnt from your comment.
1. People lack sympathy. Start with it to win their hearts.
2. You can write whatever you like afterwards, like "he was not happy for winning the bronze medal" "I'd be sad for not winning the 1st or 2nd place". Hence "pissed" and "furious".
The athletes keep count themselves, and he changed to the quicker lane. You can see that he was not completely ignorant about the switch as he suddenly changed to the inside lane knowing it should be outside lane.
I remember watching this live on tv with my (dutch) family and we where screaming and my dad even left the room!
:(
Wow thats so cool! He even did that wowww
@@sirmcnugget7748 xD
I was watching it to my father did the same cause he is Dutch too
We feel same kind of emotions when our cricket team is in trouble
He didn't dump his coach five after Sochi lol. Months before Sochi Kemkers himself already decided that he'd stop coaching after the Olympic season.
+Travel Stories Around - I just saw the 10,000m and they showed a little history of Sven and his disqualification. He did stick with his coach, but they said he eventually dumped his coach because of tension between them.
@@MLMLW If their were tensions, why didn't he dumped him before the Sochi Olympics? The coach decided to go.
Yeah, Kemkers stopped as Iceskating Coaching because the TVM Iceskating Team stopped existing in general. He then became performance coach in Football at FC Groningen. Sven went to Team LottoNL-Jumbo.
@bubblewrapped No, the TVM Team stopped existing, everybody had to find something new. Kemkers went into Football (FC Groningen) and Kramer went to LottoNL-Jumbo.
@@MLMLW All bullshit, see my other comment within the post you comments on
Can't they have an automatic system that would indicate the skaters which lane they should take?
That would be a waste of money.. It is not hard to keep the rythm and skate in the right lane. Those guys have been doing that for over ten years if not more. It was just a tragic mistake for Kemkers. Nightmare material still
they do have one. it’s called their brain
That would be to easy
Too easy. It's only 2018, the world is clearly not ready for 'easy' yet.
A waste of money? Do you have any idea how much money goes into these games?
He was by far the strongest skater at that moment. He's been chasing the Olympic 10.000 since. Also clarifies his angry look after coming second in 2014 in Sochi. His window had passed. Poor guy.
3:48 I know he's an olympian and all but i'm still impressed he managed to kick that small cone with his skates. Some people are just built different I guess haha
True.. that takes serious accuracy
9 Olympic medals including 4 gold, 30 world titels, 18 times European champion, many world records... Dutch Sven Kramer is a legend even though his coach made this mistake. If he was from the USA he would be world famous
he's not a legend, he doesn't know how to behave at all and he doesn't know how to forgive. He is a spoiled brat!!
the coach made a mistake that cost a man with KNIVES STRAPPED TO HIS FEET an olympic gold medal. we’re lucky all he did was throw some sunglasses
The fact that Sven had one foot in the outside lane then his coach made him take the inside lane was even more tragic.
See netherlands vs Russia and non russian coach makes a mistake. Bet that coach secretly got a bunch of money from some russian off shore account to throw the race for his skater.
@@RandomGuyCDN so you say at sochi the Dutch did on purpuse lose, so the South-Korean took gold?
Oh man, I remember this, it was a national tragedy.
3:45 amazing shot tho😂
Rightfully disqualified but the Korean skater embarrassed himself to no end. If the only way you win is on a technicality like this you need to tone any celebrating down to zero.
Sport is about technicalities.
He should not celebrate in front of Kramer tho, that's impolite
Then you couldn't celebrate your victory at all. How does this differ from winning from someone who skates too slow?
Well, he and his coach were more focused than Kramer. He deserved that celebration.
@@dodec8449 lol because the sport is about skating faster and he didn't?
Oh well I guess I'll watch this again, still feel bad for him tho all those hard work down the drain because he forgot to change the lane ( coachs fault)
Joshua Eden Not entirely. Sven could've kept track himself.
Zach Broughton no he can't, long distance like that is best just to focus on skating and his coach messed hem him up.
@@Parzivaul
Entirely. You just don't disobey your coach in Olympics.
Zach Broughton that’s harsh to say. I’m a rower and we have these things called “step test”. It’s based on watts, you start out on a certain amount of watts and every minute you have to go 15 watts higher. When im rowing i simply cant count, so my coach always has to tell me what score im supposed to get.
Imagine winning a gold medal because someone else made a mistake lol. I guess that’s how sports work really.
Yes. All contenders has to abide by the rules. If you skate on the inside one extra time than you supposed to do, you illegally did a shortcut. Rules are rules.
Justice Hussein Duh
@@HusseinDoha why don't they allow you to skate the outer lane one extra time to make the distance equal again?
Well he would be happy just by the fact that he got a medal period, since he just changed his sport a year before 2010 olympics and got this result.
ever heard of Steven Bradbury? 😁
I started watching one of these videos, and now I’m addicted. Anyone else?
Man I would be soooo furious. Four years of hard work and clean living get disqualified.
He dominated for so long but in the end never won a gold medal on his favorite race distance, the 10k. Partially due to this race
This is so sad
@@1Husseini play despacito
wow, that's awful. Put in a world class performance and the one guy whos job it is to tell you lane 1 or 2 screws it up :( no wonder he was mad.
When this happened everyone in the room started freaking out. we couldnt believe our golden boy made a mistake
+Markamanic - I thought Sven's coach made the mistake telling him to go in the wrong lane?
It was the coach??
Watch the video mate. The video is all about that
@@MLMLW Yeah it was his couch that made the golden boy make the mistake LOL
to all commenters: on that point on tv, you not see/hear who made the mistake, days later only, you hear the full story and learn the coach made a mistake and sven made the mistake to listen to coach and not follow his guts
Olympic guys have a incredible team for content creation you can start watching from one video then another and another. 👏👏👏
I can remember another mistake that cost a guy called "Kramer" everything.
Seinfeld?
MICHIEL KRAMERRRR
It was also caught on video 😂
Similar feeling happened to me and my brother in competitive swimming. Granted it was not the Olympics, but I was tasked with
counting my brother's MILE, which was the first time he had ever swum that race. My dad was the timer, and the job of the timer is to ring the bell when a swimmer has two more lengths to go, so they know to book it as fast as they can. My dad rang my brother's bell a 50 too soon, so my brother got a wicked fast time in the mile, but was DQd. He never swam it again :/
That’s so sad 😞
He should forgive his father
The greatest speed skater that has ever been and that will probably ever will be. The only thing he couldn't achieve was an olympic gold medal on the 10k. nonetheless every Dutch person will remember he was unstoppable in his heyday.
Patrick Roest is coming up now tho, it'll be interesting to see where he ends up in his career
Imagine beating an Olympic record by 4 seconds, and end up being disqualified.
Didn't he take an extra inside lane? That would mean he skated a shorter distance right?
@@addlemm44 yeah so probably a bit less than 4 seconds, but I'd be surprised if he didn't break a record still
This was one of the most cringey moments of dutch ice skating....
Yeah
Ice skating in general. Oh well, I guess that's the same thing.
debatable
Id say prob dutch sports.
Not cringy, just awful.
Man, I watched this live and it *hurt* me.
From what I remember, the Dutch coaching team was short a person, who would normally write down the times for the skater, which meant Kempers had to do this job, as well as the general coaching (like lane switches).
How come Kramer couldn't keep track of lane switching himself? It's not like it's hard to figure out when you're coming out from the inside lane, you are supposed to switch to the outside lane 🤦
@@themountain3461 he did keep track of it, but when your coach says "you miss counted, switch your lane!", you start to also doubt yourself. That is what happened and why Kramer ended up switching lanes, even though he thought he counted correctly (which he did).
@@mini-_ what I mean is, you don't even have to count. You exit the first turn from the inside lane, you use the back stretch to switch to the outside lane. Simple. But I understand there's high pressure in the Olympics and the athlete get stressed by instructions
@@themountain3461 it's called forgetting. Everyone does it
@@anonymousperson3023 I don’t remember if I’ve ever forgotten anything 🤓🤔
I gasped when Sven stayed in the same lane 😭 how sad 😔
That coach had one job. One job. I would be so furious i cant believe they stayed together lmao he is waaaayyy too kind.
Actually, it's the skater's own job to figure out which lane to skate in. Hint: you switch every lap 😜🤓
Sven was pissed!!!! And I can't blame him. That was a catastrophic mistake. At least Sochi provided some justice. 😊😊
Celebrating by the opponent's mistake is the lowest of the lows
I would throw up if I was the coach. Bet there was alot of sleepless nights for them both 😭😖
The coach literally was relaxed not putting in any energy into a race at all. All he had to do was watch the race and keep track of a lane and he couldn't even do that right.
3:43 i would be ashamed if i win that way...
I remember this very well, being Dutch myself. I wonder how the coach must have felt, landing back in the Netherlands.
we all seen this video before i think we have another coach behind this youtube channel
Sounds like that coach owed someone money and threw the race
That thought crossed my mind too,
It seemed like such an outrageous mistake to make given the circumstances..5th Olympic gold medal win down the drain in a split second..Bizarre.
My brother started bawling his eyes out, my parents and I were disappointed too
I'd be looking at finances and relationships with betting syndicates.
Wow.. Fantastic game changer
wasn't this posted a few months ago?
Indeed. I was thinking the same, had a major dejavu while watching
Rucap x
First :), also didn't this get posted before already?
The fact he forgave him for this small but very impactful mistake is the best part.
I worked in that stadium (Richmond Olympic Oval) for the morning shift when it happened.
The guy was so mad that he shoved a volunteer aside when getting to his van. Word spread quickly in the stadium on what he did so he had to quickly gift the volunteer signed merchandise before word got beyond the ROO.
what song was used in the background?
How bizarre ..? That`s the thing about the Olympics.. Completely unpredictable.
What have we cried after this 😥😥😥😥😥😥
4:05 How red are these legs ! I wonder how warm they are
Guess who just won in Pyeongchang?
Default: Yorker Sven! 😂🇳🇱
10K still has to be won. 5K ok. But he wants revenge for this blunder on the 10K.
tyvek05 people who like speedskating. You don't. So what are you doing here???
Lol Kramer got 6th place in 10,000m while that Korean skater got 4th place. Guess Kramer failed to win in 10,000m again.
A Canadian broke the Olympic record and won gold for 10km
Sad mistake, but it sometimes happens within teams, even in such a small group as the athlete and his coach. Together win, together lose, that`s a regular practice.
What's the name of the music at the beginning of the race?
Surely they can lit up the lane that you must go to next or some other auto system? There needs to be a more effective system 💫
That'd be too easy XD, that and its problematic for close races, if you lit up for the guy in front, the guy behind you may accidentally think the light's for him.
I experienced the same... When I was running 1500mts in 200mts lane... My frnds told me that its last round... So I gave my full energy and completed at 1st.. But actually still I had one round.. But no energy to complete it.. So lost my place..
heart touching , sceen
This is one of the worst "you had one job" cases
Curious, what is the background music?
벤쿠버 올림픽에서 크라머 실격되면서 이승훈이 어부지리로 금메달 따서 좋아했는데 지금보니 많이 미안해지네.4년간의 노력이 코치의 실수 때문에 한순간에 물거품이 됐는데 얼마나 빡치고 허무할까................... Kramer.......I'm so sorry
@ 어휘력이 이 모양이라 미안하답니다
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 누가보면 이승훈이 소트니코바처럼 사기친줄 알겠네 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@@user-cz9yu9em2y 저능아 같아여 왜 이승훈 선수가 뭘 잘못했다고 저 네덜란드 코치가 잘못이다 요즘 이런 개돼지 노예유전자 때문에 큰일임 외국인앞에서 개돼지급 노예임
I couldn't shocked this event since 2008 Singapore Grand Prix
what is the music please !!
The Coach looked so sad at the end when Kramer wouldn't bump fists..but what a horrible mistake to make,knowing you've just cost your athlete his fifth consecutive gold medal win..Very Ouch!.😭
wait, but if he would proceed to skate the outer lane twice. it would make the same distance. why is this not allowed? lol
That’s good that he forgave the coach!!
Super 💖🙌
허무하겠다ㅠㅠ
how can u be happy when u win witouth the skills...
Well this is something new for me
Crazy
Oh no 😭
still hurts
-(everyone from the netherlands)
What is name of this song, please? Thankss!! :-)
can be special made for the Olympic Commitee, they have money enough to hire a Hans Zimmer or some ochestra to make something without DCMA
Horribly sad moment...Why do they even need someone to tell them which lane it is? Can't see how that person is going to be more accurate...
Your coach doesn't tell you to switch lanes, they never do. It's second nature for a speed skater to switch lanes, you don't think about it at all.
I personally would not mess with a guy names Sven Kramer
Pretty casual name, a Kramer is just a old Dutch word for salesman.
@@Snaakie83 I must've beeeen really really drunk when I wrote that....
they should NOT let the coach on the ice at all. LET the skater skate.
크라머 대인배넹 멋지당 '잊는거보다 용서하는게 쉽다~'
The athletes keep count themselves, and he changed to the quicker lane. You can see that he was not completely ignorant about the switch as he suddenly changed to the inside lane knowing it should be outside lane.
Wow I’d be absolutely furious but it was an honest mistake
But that's how sports works.
Came here looking for Steven Bradbury comments. Was not dissapointed.
You done messed up Kempkers! At least Kramer redeemed himself in Sochi.
UNGRATEFUL
코치 뒤에가서 5분간 손들고 서있어 짜샤^^
BROOOOO THEY LOOOK LIKE FROZONE LMAOOO
what is the name of the song??!
Kemkers needs a reminder
New to the sport. Those wide track only for 2 skaters? Seems like short track speed skating is more difficult? Only has a really short straight track before it turns again and they have to brake again
Sadness.
Sadness.
this process could be automated you know... there is no need to leave it to the coach... Coach is not the one competing...personally in any sport i would prefer that on the day it should be entirely up to the individuals or the team (if its a team sport)...there should be no coaching allowed on the competition day or at least during the event...that way it is the complete test of the athlete or the team...learn whatever you want to learn from the coach before THE-DAY. But on the day it should be all you....Like imagine taking the teacher to the exam.
When you are in competition, there are a lot of going on. From pressure, eyes on you, etc. Coaches usually make sure you are in check and focus. They also motivates you and strategize how to beat opponents. Sometimes who won a competition is not the one who do better on practice, but who has better mentality and better strategy from coaches. I said like this because It is from my experiences, even though its just badminton competition regional, it still hard to be on top. beating someone in competition is hard because he/she at least or even better than you. Coach can help you, he/she can advise, motivates, strategize and calm you down. Sometimes I won, not because I was better but my coach helped me. If you are alone in the tournament, what you do may not be at full potential like you did at training.
'You had ONE job! Count!'
Does anyone know the song
Didn't y'all do this video already?
12 Laps
11 Laps
10
9
8
...uh oh!
Question is should Coaches be allowed to guide during the match?
This is not entirely accurate. Kemkers did not direct Kramer to any lane up until this point. He saw his pupil go for what he believed to be the wrong lane. He even did the double check by looking at where his opponent was. But somehow he made a mistake there too, and so at the last moment he sent Kramer to the inside lane. Kramer had no time to think, so he trusted his coach. Because that’s what a coach is for. Kemkers then checked with another coach and only then did he realize his mistake, though it was still with disbelief initially. But as the laps came and went, the realization that he had pretty much destroyed Kramer’s chance to win the gold manifested itself.
It speaks volumes that Kramer continued to be coached by Kemkers afterwards. And despite insinuations in this video, Kramer himself said that leaving Kemkers had nothing to do with these olympic games. It would we weird if that was the case, given they had another 4 years after that.
What happens to the other guy, when somebody crosses into his line?
Going on the inside was shorter thus saving time. Had he went outside as required, finishing time would had been slightly longer.
That is not the reason. If just the distance is measured then he could've taken two outer laps consecutively to compensate for time.
You just have to alternate lanes!!! Doesn't matter how much you covered
OHMYGOD. I can not believe the coach did that....... how!!!?!??!?!?!?
spur of the moment. it's a tragic mistake lol
bad hangover ?
I felt sorry for Sven. The coach looked lost during these race...........
He didnt forget the coach did
So sad but everything comes for a reason
Deffo a fix, must be easy to do.
After the Olympics his coach, who made around 48,000 euros per year, bought a yacht and retired to travel around the world.