18v Router Comparison | Which is better? Makita, Milwaukee, DeWALT or HiKOKI (Metabo HPT)
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- čas přidán 26. 05. 2021
- Boy, the guy who made this video did love to waffle. Which brand makes the most powerful router? Which one has the best features? Listen to a tool nut blabber on about the little differences between the HiKOKI (Metabo HPT), Milwaukee, DeWALT and Makita 18v cordless routers and see if he can make up his mind on which one is the best. ANd be prepared for a twist!
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Great review. I own the Makita router and agree it's really a lighter duty router, but it does run very smoothly and is easy to handle. Honestly, they're all so similar, it really just depends on which battery platform you're already invested in.
I agree. I bought it specifically for small routing jobs like door hinges , 1/4 roundover and the like. The Dewalt is nice but not as easy to control for very small routing tasks.
I have so many routers - might end up with one of these as part of a kit. I like to keep them set up for different things like roundovers that I use a lot so I don’t have to screw around with setup each time for common tasks.
I bought the Milwaukee last year and have only used it once but it done what I needed.
Good to see this type of review. Like you said they are generally used for smaller tasks. I use that makita at work for round overs and its really nice to use. However the corded makita is what most of the other guys at my work use.
This is a great comparison.👍 well done mate.
Another great video focusing on the 4 most relevant brands , a Sabre saw test / comparison would be tasty .
Love my makita trimmer although i've not even seen any of the other three i'll take your word for it that they are better and i have no problem with that as the makitas still a damn good trimmer although i do prefer to use the plunge base on it .
Thanks for another great video 👍
good video, would like to see how they all do with different cutters though, a round over/chamfer, a slimmer straight bit etc to see the more 'real world' power comparison, will all the extra power the dewalt have make that much of a difference for normal trim routing?
Have the Dewalt... Love it!
I have the Milwaukee M 18 and it works great I have several hours of use with it never had a single problem always have plenty of power even when using it with hickory or walnut wood
nice review mate. I think indeed all those little details are outweighed by the DeWalt's power, it are small things compared the performance in total I feel. I am used to the DeWalt and when working with the Makita a while back, it just didn't macthed the feel of a strong router.
The corded DeWalt has the same style base. It performs best without the base, instead used in a CNC. Captive nut also helps a little since it's inverted and one less thing to manage.
Got the Makita as a freebie with a kit. I use it for light routing. The 30 year old reliable corded 3HP Makita beast gets pulled out for big tasks, like surface flattening with a large bit.
I’m glad you came to you’re senses at the end.
I’m not a dewalt fan, I do have a couple of their tools that they just did right, or that they were the only one that has tried, and this is one of them, as a framer we router out our door and window holes, and sometimes a cordless alternative to the big 2horse router would be nice, well first we bought the makita, but for what we needed it was junk, it stalls out all the time, and that stupid two button system becomes extremely frustrating….but the dewalt, it is a beautiful thing to behold, sure, the made a lot of interesting design choices, some of them might even be classified as mistakes….but, once you use it, you can’t imagine going without the power that it has!
Your last comment at 30:30 kind of says it all really. The power of the Dewalt is truly impressive. If you need that power in a cordless, there is no contest. You get used to the rest of the stuff and deal with it for the power. The other players will have to up their game in that department now, and that's a good thing. I have the Makita and the Milwaukee. Got the Makita because I already had the corded version. I ended up getting another corded one in a full kit with all the extra bases because they fit the cordless one too. It was cheaper to buy the full corded kit than to get the bases separately. I like the micro adjust on the Milwaukee a LOT and it does have more grunt than the Makita. But for what I use them for, power is rarely an issue. But is sure would be nice to have that power, right?
Great video as usual. Keep up the great work!
I just bought the DeWalt DCW600. My initial impression was it was too large, plus removing the fixed base and tuning the adjustments didn't seem all that intuitive. My criticism of it evaporated once I understood the tool. The DeWalt DCW600 is an absolute monster. The larger diameter of the tool must have to do with a larger motor. I don't see how this router won't survive for many years.
I see 3 handy palm routers and some hybrid thing. I love DeWalt _hand tools,_ but have had bad experiences with many of power tools, including drills/drivers, hammer drills, grinders, etc.
Great review. I like the Makita the best.
In japan i bought an oldish ryobi router that the depth change is the same as the dewalt also the 36v hikoki trim router is very good i pre ordered it !
You think the less speed variability and lower top speed of the DeWalt means it can produce higher torque or something along those lines? Maybe it has more windings and is why it's able to beat the others. Curious what they look like opened up.
Good video. Becoming my top tool test channel as of late, thanks for spending money on this stuff
I just got the dewalt with plunge base combo. I like the depth adjustment, feels very precise and you can adjust the depth by just a tiny bit really easily.
I'll pair it with 1.7ah powerstack battery to mitigate its bulk.
I haven't used it much, I hope it's still good in precise jobs, time will tell.
Great review.
I can understand not reading model numbers, but putting them in the description would be useful because likely these tools will be updated at some point in the future and it could cause confusion.
Thanks Im grabbing one 👍
But which one???
I own the milwaukee. I haven't done a ton of work with it, but I was using it recently, and I had the lock on the height adjustment set a little too loose. The vibration caused the height to wander a little bit as I was making a cut, which screwed up my work. It was annoying. You have to tighten the lock A LOT to try to prevent this, but I have heard some people say that if you tighten it too much then you can crack the sliding base when you lock it in place. I like the design of the adjustment, but they should have made the lock mechanism more robust. Before I use it for another project that requires precise depth, I may look into modifying the tool somehow to prevent it from drifting up and down as I use it.
I really enjoy your videos, great content.. But, this time it seems like the power ratio of the routers where the only thing that matters? The dewalt is bulky.. the power of the router should not be the main thing when talking about a trim/palm router.
Nice video 👍
Glad I have both the Milwaukee and the dewalt! I like the Milwaukee because it’s smaller diameter fits my hands better. But I’ve also noticed the dewalt has power for days compared to the dewalt but hand fatigue matters. Thanks for including the makita and the Hickoki! Nicely done!
I am so use to holding my DeWalt router, it just feels natural for me. I actually like the whole DeWalt line. For really large jobs I use my 1 1/2 HP Craftsman that I’ve owned for years but there’s nothing like my 20v DeWalt for everything else
I'm on the 18v Makita but I actually ended up going with the Milwaukee 18v trim router. I just ended up getting a Milwaukee to Makita battery adaptor so I can use Makita batteries and not have to invest in the Milwaukee battery setup for one tool. Seems to work alright.
Hi. Sorry to dig up this old comment but can you tell me if your battery adapter setup has worked well for you? Any issues at all? I’m considering doing the same thing. Thanks
The Milwaukee and the Dewalt are both great tools. If you’re already running a batter platform stick with it. I have the Milwaukee, I like the size and weight and it does everything I need a trim router to do. If I need to turn a bigger bit I have bigger routers that are better suited for that.
Cheers mate
You mention that the 5.0Ah 18V Makita batteris are better than the 6.0Ah ones. Do you mean power wise or that they last longer? Do you have a video where you test them?
I one point or another I've had the milwaukee , the Makita and I'll say the dewalt is so good I've purchased multiples.
Good review, did u try the vacume attachments ? I tried the dewalt one once but found it was anoying to put on and use
They are all rubbish and will only work with certain router bits doing certain tasks.
I have the dewalt, and I like it and dislike it for all the same reasons you mentioned. Its got power, which is great for the times I need it, but its very uncomfortable if your say rounding/chamfering lots of parts. Been considering the Metabo HPT (Hikoki) to dedicate to edge treatments.
I was thinking oh dear he's going off on the petty shit again until I watched the end of your video as I've been using mine for the last 2 years and I love it and it has never failed me once. Ps great video.
Nice review as always. It could have been nice to compare their power on similar revolutions p/m. We never know what revs the routers are set for the tests. If they are all at max - on larger cuts the Dewalt will have more power edge just because it's max is 25K - and the rest are 30K. Any chance of reviewing the 36V Hikoki?
I've reviewed the Hikoki 36v plunge router and I'm working on getting the 1/4 inch.
I love owning hikoki gear.. No one else buys it cause of price but I've literally seen 6 milwalki drills fail while mine kept going.. All these tests seem to put hikoki on top ay
Spanner chucking resistance switches would be better of course.
I have makita nad milwaukee, really good staff
My cordless tools are Makita.
Interesting and informative review.
One of the tasks I use the router for is rebating hinges, so I need to see where the bit is. You do not mention how good or poor the visibility is with these tools. Do any of them have a task light? If you have the dust collector connected can you even see the bit?
Ohh and how about a laser line video ?
Dewalt , Makita , PLS, Huepar ?
The dewalt is bigger but it is a powerhouse that makes it a little more versatile
i would like to see a 40v max makita one in future, this would be the point for me to change to the new volt system. The anglegrinder is on my to buy list
Do you think they might make a 40v half inch bit router ?
Would be a good competitor for the hikoki
Bosch routers are outstanding. Real work horses. Would of liked to seen it in your review..
My dewalt one didn’t come with a dust port. Neither did my metabo one. Did you buy them separately?
All of the tools in this video came with dust ports. Different countries offer different accessories based on legal requirements
The makita comes with a tilt base and plunge base for the same proce as the hikoki on its own. I hate the on button setup on the hikoki.
Id like to see a hikoki 1/2" router vs the smaller hikoki trim router.
I thought you said that you preferred the Hikoki over the Makita?
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL No, not a fan of the hikoki
The DeWalt is smooth as butter.
Ok- I'll admit that as someone who is heavily invested in Hitachi/hikoki, I was keen to see the green machine come out well, which I thought it did. Until the end, when the machine that you criticised and gave no points all the way through suddenly wins out because the others are small light hand-held trim routers, and the heavy, cumbersome one has more grunt than a trim router needs.
Mad. Just mad. Stupid way of ending a comparison test
Glad you enjoyed it so much. If you want to see Hikoki win with a trim router you've probably never heard of check out this one czcams.com/video/sYfcsUmnPFA/video.html
Theirs a reason team yellow is such a oversized beast.....because it's a BEAST.
Team Yellow all the way
I don’t think this matters depending on what battery system you’re locked in. Most people are going to be locked in the DeWalt battery system, I guess that’s tough because Dewalt makes you end up having to upgrade to the corded routers to get the better half inch router collet.
Excellent review thought it was gonna be ur typical Dewalt bashing nice twist 👏
I have owed all but the Hikoki, and the Dewalt is the only one that does not walk on me. I am a Makita guy but it just could not hold a candle to Milwaukee and the Milwaukee is outclassed by the Dewault.
The Makita can also take an 8mm collet.
16g cordless nailers?
He's done that video already
No I haven't.
Makita is probably the best value IMO and for small projects it's great I got my Makita for $75, while the Dewalt is $200 (yikes)
The price of makita is 120-130 $ .... I don't know where you got it for only 75 $ 😂😂😂
I have the Makita and it runs both 6 and 8 mm, but that might be because I'm in Europe?
Yes, it comes with different collet in different parts of the world.
I think the Dewalt with the power stack would killed the competition as far as power.
The dewalt already killed it. With a powerstack battery it would have made a small difference for the 3mins that those poxy little batteries last.
Hikoki for the win your points don't lie. They are used for small tasks lightweight is king
I'd keep Makita for daily use if I had the bigger Hikoki for bigger stuff.
5ah better than 6ah? I'm curious about the details on that. I remember a video you did on that subject, I believe. I'll look for it.
As for stats and ratings and tests and such, it's nice to know all that stuff. I find myself going for familiarity and ergonomics. I'm a Makita guy. Heavily invested. Most if their tools are great. A real joy to use. I realise there are shortcomings with minor details with a tool or two. But overall, Makita gets the job done. I suppose people that like a different color feel the same way about their choice of brand.
6ah uses less powerful cells, simple as that :)
The best one is the one you already have batteries for
Man I don’t think DeWalt has ever pissed this guy off so much!
I use Milwaukee and DeWalt don't have any problem at all ..
I'm going to guess, Makita
time to compare 40v vs dewalt again
Mmm... I know... but I don't have a DeWalt... I will have to borrow one. Might do a video with the 40v the Hikoki 36v 1/2" and the Dewalt... I'll see if I can grab a Dewalt.
Really interesting to see reviews like this, that go super in depth, but end up meaning nothing because so many of the complaints can be benefits if you’re doing something different with the routers.
For example, I have the makita router, but I use a different base that’s significantly wider and has two handles on it, one on each side. I didn’t even know that some people held the router itself, I’ve only ever just held the handles.
Another thing is the weight, heavier is better for me as I use a router for flush cutting 1” thick solid maple, a light router, such as the makita, is actually slightly detrimental to the performance as it is more likely to try and jump and ends up chipping away at the maple I’m cutting. Recently I switched from the battery router to the corded larger shank router specifically for more weight and power to try and overcome the problems that came with having too light of a tool, and we switched heads so it has an even larger surface now.
Great vids, it’s nice that you explain “why” you don’t like certain things, because guys like me who find your complaints to be opposite of our needs, we can make that distinction and figure out what’s right for us
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It’s become pretty obvious to me although many might disagree that Dewalt has left their contracting roots for the gimmick filled “prosumer” market. Although surprisingly it has the most power… let’s be honest though if you are a contractor needing all that power you would probably get a more appropriate tool letting the Makita and Hikoki serve a specific role better.
Dewalt is bigger has strange features that you sort of get used to. Never run dust extraction so don't care nothing fits. I have tiny hands but never been a problem. The power comes into its own. With the plunge base as well I no longer carry a bigger router. For most site work this does it all. Bigger routers stay in the shed for stair trenching type jobs. Don't know what Dewalt were thinking with a lot of the design features they are crap. The straight edge on the base plate I use a lot as a quick guide fence so no need for the contrived one that comes with it for a lot of jobs. It is a multi useful tool though.
You have to consider the price ratio buddy.
No I don't.
I have the metabo hpt and never had a problem with power but then again I use the 18v and 36v batteries. I use my hpt cordless trim router over my skil router.
Also why create a point system if you’re just going to pick what you like? Makes me not trust your channel.
Warning! there is some serious router cruelty at 24:06
Makita do a 40 volt now.
czcams.com/video/qClPSyaW_cM/video.html
I have the makita and it comes with a second base
It comes with all sorts of different bases depending on which version you buy.
That last bit at the end, drops off the dewalt, its just too big! So that means milwaukee wins! Lol. I have the m18 and its a beast, a ton of power in such a small package. I have had some issues with the collet, the bit adjusting in the cut. Make sure its tight!
Wasn’t you supposed to use them as no cut some wood 🤦♂️🤦♂️
What...
I meant it would of been better if we saw you use them on some material
Your review is not on normal use of a trim router. All of those trimmers have the power to do the jobs that should be doing. I get that the DeWALT might have more power but if you are using a bit like you did, you should be using a 1/2” router. Not sure your results/options are on the mark. Clearly you know it yourself when you make you parting comment.