Ukraine War Update NEWS (20240513a): Pt 1 - Overnight & Other News
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- Here is today's UWU NEWS giving you all the nuggets you need to add to your understanding of events.
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0:10 Hits/losses
14:40 Strikes
22:50 Other
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DISCLAIMER FOR GENERAL STAFF LOSS DATA
1) These are real people with real lives and real families who love them. Don’t let the numbers sap your humanity.
2) These numbers probably aren’t accurate but they’re the best we have and we don’t need them to be accurate to be indicative of patterns of activity.
3) All losses are estimates. Losses cannot be counted with accuracy because of the conditions on the ground.
4) Both sides would see it to be of their advantage to minimize their own losses maximize the other side’s losses.
5) Neither side releases their losses but we have enough transparency from the Ukrainian side to have confidence in they are indicative.
6) Personnel losses are hard to count. If a soldier gets injured, heals up, and returns to the front line only to get injured again, is that one loss or two? Also, how to deal with losses from PMC’s or soldiers fighting with RF from occupied territories?
7) Equipment losses are hard to count. If an AA complex involves several parts and one part gets disabled, is that a loss, or a fraction of a loss? If a tank gets disabled, repaired, back into the fight, then disabled again, is that one lost tank or two?
8) All recorded losses are vulnerable to multiple reporting. We have already seen numerous cases of multiple drones in the air reporting the same loss from different angles as multiple engagements.
9) Losses are not always reported on the same day they occurred. It is frequent that drone losses are reported at least 24 hours after other terrestrial equipment losses. Certain losses may not be reported for days or weeks for military intelligence reasons.
Thanks for your sacrifice JP, by re-recording today you've saved every viewer 5 mintues of their day 🙂
Thank you, Jonathan for part one. it really looks like the russians have put all there eggs in one basket we have seen them doing there attacks with golf carts and bikes.But now in the east no golf carts or bikes tanks and armoured vehicles this is not going to go well for them.One more thing have been keeping an eye on oil prices don’t seem to be going up in fact dropping slightly 👍👍👍👍
That is partially because Russia is losing refining ability and has more crude for sale. Greater supply than demand means prices drop.
Buy yourself a big box of Yorkshire tea. You've definitely earned it today 🫖☕️
Hi Louise 💐
Funnily enough, i am almost out. Thank you!!!
@@surpriseitsus9622 Hi Lynn 👋 ☺️
*_THANKS, Louise!_*
I said less than a week ago that we will see personnel losses peaking to 2k. Some guy said; ''Say what?''
I see how this channel is gaining popularity, congratulations.
Perfect timing just woke up! Wish me luck I'm having my graduation ceremony today 🎓😁
good luck mate! 👨🎓
good luck
Good luck
Good luck and congratulations 🎓 ❤🤗
Absolutely fascinating watch, thank you for keeping us abreast of an ever-evolving situation.
cheers matey
Sorry to hear about the audio issue wasting your valuable time, thanks for working through to get this out.
Putin was a KGB Colonel in East Germany. That tells all you need to know.
Apparently he was just some little joey pushing papers.
Yes it is!
Hi everyone try to enjoy your week. WOW what losses for the Russians
Hi Bud ☕ Enjoy your Monday
morning JP and all of our community---who ever decided this incursion was a good idea will most likely be reprimanded , a very bad idea , was it the Supreme Commander , strategist ,all going to original plan .`when the enemy makes mistakes ,don`t stop him` 🐶 Slava Ukraini 🔱 fighting for freedom and democracy 🇺🇸🗽🗳💙☑🌊🗳💙🇺🇸Путин HUILO
My opinion is that this is . . . The Last Roll Of The Dice" . . . For the russians.
I didn't know i agree but I hope you are right.
@@whatnowstinky Dear Stinky , we are all unsure of what will happen as this war continues.
My personal guess is that large cracks will start to form in the rus forces from the end of June onwards.
Especially in their artillery and logistic components; let us hope so.
@@clivedunning4317gotta love the Kremlin eating itself
Too small. 50,000 is a spoiling attack. At the beginning of the war, before defenses were built and Western aid had poured in, it would have been enough to close the gap to Kharkiv. It didn't. They never reached Kharkiv.
Now, 50,000 will cover the gray zone and give a larger daily loss on both sides, but no real progress.
I agree I have said the same.
Never in the field of human conflict, have so many, done so little for so few. The Tzar.
G’day all 👍🏻🇦🇺🇺🇦 thank you Jono 👍🏻☕️🫖
Hi Bob 👋🇦🇺🇺🇦
@@Frank_van_der_StamHi Frank 👍🏻
Goodnight Bob ❤ ✨
@@surpriseitsus9622 Too late, it’s morning now 😀 but thanks for the thought ☕️🫖
@@bobrichards6696 OH no, I was quick too ☺ Good morning Bob 🤗 ☕
Good day all!
Hi Mika!☺
@@sherylpetrucci5730 Hi Sheryl!☺
Hi Mika
@@Finnishguy777 Terve!
Hi Mika. I hope life is treating you well.
The Russian BTR can hold 8 Russians or 24 International soldiers. In tests they found that a human body can absorb the effects of the drone to save the BTR from damage. They use bodies like they used logs on tanks in the Second World War.
Exactly😂
MRA - mobile reactive armour
The logs weren’t for armour, they were for vehicle recovery. The Americans used them for protection from HEAT rounds.
1740 ? WOW.🇺🇦👏 OUTSTANDING EFFORT!
From what I’ve heard, the National Security Adviser position that has passed from Patruchev to Shoigu is not a lucrative one. It will limit Shoigu’s ability to steal from the State. I probably heard this from Kontsntin on Inside Russia channel. Maybe Vlad Vexler.
Great video dude, I listen while I work 😊 keep up the good work
Great video as always keep up the great work!!!
Hi team, happy monday everyone.. Thank you Jonathan
Happy Monday Tomi ❤ 🤗
Good Day Bud!!!
@@surpriseitsus9622 Same to you Lynn and Jason too 🙂😊
Good to see you as always as well my friend!
@@Finnishguy777 🤗
Goodday Team, Jonno and all goodthinking others. Have a great Monday!
Happy Monday Peter. I'm early, please don't faint 😂 ❤
Ukraine should be given permission to strike inside Russia a certain distance to create the same size buffer zone that Russia is seeking in Ukraine. The west needs no more reasons to allow this other than what has unfolded in Kharkiv. These arbitrary constraints are getting ridiculous and indefensible and need to be removed today.
DUH... they have been doing that for a long long time.
Yes I fully agree, max 5000km from the borders would be OK.
Absolutely right 👍
Yes the West is far too restrictive and also only reactive in this war. Should provide a no fly zone with anti air systems from Poland over western Ukraine for years and send engineers to help repair damage Russian missile strikes have done....
@@rofferuff489, How about no limit?
Cheers Jonathan and the ATP team
Hi Richard 🤗
@@surpriseitsus9622 Hi Lynn😀
Thank you
Unsustainable that's what they are!
Afternoon all, thanks JP.
Good Day JP, Team!!!! WOW #'s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi Jason ❤
@@surpriseitsus9622 Good Morning!!!! Already on Part 3!!!!
@@surpriseitsus9622 Thank You!!!! Very Much so!!!😉😇😉
@@surpriseitsus9622 So I think that Target is going to have to wait for F-16s to come into play! It's going to need to be done like JP said about Wild Weiselling and draining the system and then hitting it. I don't think they will use the Aircraft they have now even though we can. But it be much more dangerous than in F-16s! F-16s best jobs are SEAD (Supresion of Enemy Air Defenses), Dog Fighting which I really don't see happening, cause their next best job is BVR (Beyond Visual Range) air to air engagements without getting within seeing distance! From what I hear the News was passed up, but I was told by some it won't be done yet! But that means nothing really! They wouldn't tell me when they would do it anyway!
Be nice if the Ukrainians were given enough that they don't need to send manned aircraft up to draw enemy air defenses out of the woodwork. It's so risky all I can think is can't the allies give them some stuff like missiles or drones or balloons for bait as opposed to a pilot in a Fulcrum.
Good morning, JP! Wake up coffee, ATP, Slavia Ukraini 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 Heroyam Slava 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
As always JP thank you for the work you put in.
Good morning all! Thanks again for all your hard work JMSP.
Good morning ☕
Another front, so add 20% to all the loses daily. Actually not a bad thing, the Russians help us making the attrition rate higher.
Thanks once more to the team
Yeah it seems like Putin is saying to the oligargy that they were merely caretakers and the state wants its things back and if they don't like it they can have window or tea. Poor old Shoigu eh? He lost it all.
1st for a long time
Congrats! 🎉🎉🎉
👍👍👍👍
🥇 ❤ well done Gary
Great news, attiring Russian forces! Great details reported!
Belousov’s talent appears to be in extracting money from Russia’s commercial and industrial enterprises and redirecting it to the military/industrial complex. Unless he is even more corrupt than Shoigu, this should result in the Russian armed forces getting more of the equipment and supplies that they need.
If he’s Russian and at the top, he is corrupt. That’s how Russia works.
I had just been thinking that the tank losses seemed to be lower recently. Guess we found the missing tanks.
Maybe Shoigu has been moved to a position that has no money attached to it, so no more thievery. Belousov is an economist so he knows where to tax and who to tax to fund the war efforts.
I'm starting to think he requested to be moved him self, to avoid being the scapegoat when anything goes wrong.
@@lassebodilsenlol too late 😂
Putin must have declared that he wants to reach that "cool half million" before June, and his officers are certainly working hard at it!
@karsten11553 Yes it is! a great comment with good spices also makes you laugh at the Russian madness! Haha..hah..aah!
Thank You Johnathan ... 😌
It's rather hard to frame Shoigu being shuffled out as a bad thing for Russia after 2 years of laughing at his incompetence&corruption. Better to concede that sometimes Russia makes good decisions than be naive about it. If Gerasimov is also going I suspect we'll know fairly quickly.
name one good decision
Seems they are giving their least competent people the most power, and we're seeing the effects in the loss stats.
Shoigu is an incompetent clown.
Any good decisions would not have come from him, he's only there to shine putins bell.
@@harold22774 Replacing Shoigu, withdrawing from Kherson, building rail logistics to avoid reliance on the Crimean bridge, partial mobilization, massively expanding their production of ammunition.
I can go on....
To be fair, compare it with the similar Ukrainian internal shuffles (e.g. Zaluzny, Danilov) and their impact.
Earlier in the month I was thinking the Russians would be close to the half million lost figures but not quite making it. Now I am confident they will exceed this comfortably
u think so huh? Wow ... 😑
@@LumenMichaelOnebased on the figures given, 500000-484000=16000. The figure we're for 11th May which means 20 days left. 16000/20 =800 per day to hit 500K. They have been exceeding 800/ day for some time now so based on current trends it is statistically very possible
Create a small checklist for before you start recording?
Pre take off so to speak, saves you time and stress in the end mate.
Morning JP 👍😊
So after 2+ years of fighting the Russian military still has not learned.
It can advance a small amount with bad casualties when Ukraine is short of artillery or it can advance a tiny amount with terrible casualties when Ukraine does have artillery.
But neither of these things wins wars. It just expends resources at a slightly different pace.
It stinks of desperation and a lack of any real ideas or strategy.
The kharkiv offensive has only 1/10th of the forces required to take the city. The Russian forces deployed look green and inexperienced and have learned no lesson from other Russia attacks in the Donbas.
It's more of a shooting gallery than a distraction. It expending more limited resources on a bad idea with little gain.
At this point the whole Russian strategy has degenerated to:
"Play stupid games, win stupid prizes".
Well said 👍
Unless your goal is dividing the west instead of just taking Ukraine.
I always thought it was really stupid to go "you can have these weapons but do not strike military targets inside Russia".... Well all Russia will do is sit their equipment across the border and we'll be wasting our money in a war Ukraine can never win with those terms.
thats why ukraine has been building their own armaments ,the uk said it can use their weapons to strike into russia and so has france ,
Great content today JP. Thanks for hard work and dedication.
I'm not sure that it's so much of a buffer zone to stop Ukrainian artilery hitting Belgorade , apparently the Russians have been releasing the glide bombs from around the Belgorade area. It may be more likely to extend a buffer zone to push Ukrainian Anti air further back to reduce the risk to the dwindling Air force?
1740 those are many casualties
@@nikosg1386 troll
Good Example of SEAD Work on enemy Air Defense System...
Food supply too, is adversely affected.
Hi Jonathan, the end of your video reminded me of the Roman Empire. When their war chest was empty, they plundered the least popular filth rich Romans. This now happening in Russia is yet another sign of dictatorship and show a sign of desperation. Cheers, Rick
Rick! It gets so frustrating when you choose studio converts people's names into other codes or profile names.
@@ATPGeo hi Jonathan, could you elaborate on your message? I feel like such a noob, but I do not understand the meaning of it.
Why don’t we have decoy radar signals to waste Russian missiles?
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Is it worth it? To reasonable people it would seem no. To the russian regime? all day, every day
That BTR full of ants needed a …
direct hit with
an artillery round.
There is no Harm in doing some sead!
I almost feel bad for the russians.........almost.
Regarding the 'grain deal'...
How humiliating might is be if there were to be another 'deal', allowing russia to export oil, from Tuapse, after Ukrainian 'inspectors' give it the ol' thumbs up... maybe tomorrow...
Hi Jonathan is it due to your Multiple Sclerosis that causes the text on websites you show us on your screen to often jump about, up and down etc. I can listen to your excellent extensive coverage, but I like to read too when possible.
The new defense minister is good news for Ukraine. An economist with no understanding of the military is now in charge.
This gentleman was a economic analyst in the Soviet times. He's the ultimate bureaucrat, who will never challenge or be innovative. At least Shoigu had been around long enough to understand the military economy, logistics, and doctrine.
Now the office of the defence industry doesn't even have that. But he'll be loyal, I'll give him that.
Yeah, I think this can be seen in two ways that give opposite conclusions. First, He's not a military man and therefore oops. Second, he is an economics and that means that there is a strong chance the military industrial complex gets a kick up the backside and is able to work in a more integrated fashion with the military.
@@ATPGeo The other side of kicking industry in the butt to produce more is the businesses he will be pressuring (and possibly taking over) are owned by the elites. He can't squeeze too much more out of the military industry. Word is they are already running 24/7 and are expansion limited by technology blockade, and available workers. The top down central planning model this guy is trained in is diametrically opposed to what the Russians need. They need a responsive nimble industry, with technicians working on the front lines with soldiers to innovate and create new weapons that give the Russian soldiers an advantage.
Watched the trump video first, great work 💪 catching up now, thanks JP 💙💛
1740... 🤯
Singapore has a fair amount of cough, grey banking cough. I am sure they will retaliate somehow.
Kharkiv... I hope russia do not get into regular artillery range of the city. That would be bad. Take care team.
OSMOSIS , the method of water passing through a SEMIPERMEABLE MEMBRANE .Not an idea passing from one person to another .
I hope that this is tongue in cheek otherwise this is the most stupid comment I have read this week.
Metaphor. A metaphor is a figure of speech that, for rhetorical effect, directly refers to one thing by mentioning another. It may provide clarity or identify hidden similarities between two different ideas. Metaphors are usually meant to create a likeness or an analogy.
Are we looking at Putin policy? When have we seen the last of him. The real one I mean?
I love the idea of russia being secretly ruled by a cabal of putin lookalikes. 😆
Where is Russia getting all it's APVs and Tanks? And why haven't they lost any Helicopters for so long? Are the Russians not using helicopters?
they've just lost a Ka-52 in avdiivka today.
@@ATPGeo Awesome! Well done, Ukraine!
They got decimated and then withdrawn.
@@ATPGeo Why hasn't the number changed in the helicopter losses since (at least) the 9th of May?
Wild Weasel missions can now a days be flown by drones as was pioneered by Israel. The US military is probably testing equipment, tactics and methods to best learn what works and doesn't. As we watch a different type of warfare take place, we are seeing that the rigid Russian top down approach is much slower to adapt to these changes. In a military where you can be shot for merely asking for a clarification of orders, it doesn't encourage the kind of individual initiative needed to adapt quickly. The US military as well as others like China (if they got any brains, which I think they do) will incorporate lessons learned into useful adaptations. While everyone is getting the impression that combined arms with armor must be dead, they haven't considered that the equipment and tactics will adapt. Example: You want to launch an armored attack and achieve a breakthrough. An adaption might be that you have a swarm of killer drones to take out a majority of the enemy FPV kamikaze drones. I could give you dozens of adaptations but you get the point that the side that adapts the best will win!
since 2 years ago we heard unsustainable losses, that concept doesn t exist in russia
Ukraine needs to use it's F16s to prevent the Russian bombers from getting into range to drop glide bombs
SEAD missions are a delicate time sensitive mission. The artillery and the air assets must be on the same time hack and have good coordinates for target locations. We practiced this but it was considered an outdated method. Then again no one thought we'd be having trench warfare again. Everything old is new again. LoL 😂
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 ♥️
0:28 ... that's fine Johnny ... you FockdUp the audio the fist time around ... Again. Can't tell you how Fockn-Blesseded WE all are, and Feel, to know that. Can We get to work now please?
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I've heard they have at least 300 tanks. This is a good start.
Algo.
11th LSA
Not bad at all for the first video 💪
Freedom for innocent Kabyles unjustly condamned
Good day. Concerning raising the taxes of russian oil, while I agree that is suggest a need to increase revenue, I think that it is a sign of the increasing nationalization of industry. Russia has quietly been sizing industries that support the war effort such as those in the manufacturing and refining of metals. soon the only entity that will profit from russian oil will be the government. Once this happens there will be very little resistance to handing over the industry.
When is Butusov ‘often critical’ of Ukraine? Also he’s a soldier in the AFU and a war journo
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Sounds like a mafia play book
SEAD JP!!!!!
“Believe in the power of your resilience, you have the strength to overcome any storm, for you are Ukrainians & you are not alone in defending your homes”
du Barrie 2024
Much love from the U.K. Slava Ukraini 🇬🇧❤️🇺🇦
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1740 ! 😲
OMG
Just to let you know that some one is your subscribers names to scam them I know because it has happened to me great video
Singapore can sue and try and get part of the 300 billion
Who said that war was legalised murder...?
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the USA are making ukraine fight with their hands tied behind their back, yet the USA are doing it in the middle east i/e around israel
All of those comparisons about km per day between any 2 different offensives are total trash.
Now if Jake did the distance taken after Avdiivka fell then perhaps it would almost be valid .
Any chance of letting us know the Ukrainian losses, just to add a bit of balance as it's good to get a fair and
realistic picture of the situation.
It would be nice to know, but unfortunately no one is publishing numbers for Ukraine losses. So we only get the occasional trolls claiming "they already lost more than 500k men" or "they are losing a 1000 people a day".
No. There is not a source to provide figures, try the other bots. Lol. Slava Ukraine.
Nope that’s why I take these numbers with a grain of salt. Apparently the Kharkiv front is lacking any solid fortifications for the defense so is the MOD upping the #’s to downplay the reality? Even if it they are over calculating 30-40% that just means this war will last longer than people think.
There is no public numbers for Ukrainian casualties but after watching literally thousands of videos of combat footage from both sides iv come to the conclusion that Ukrainian figures for inf and armour are pretty close.
My estimates are between
4 , 6 - 1 in Ukraines favour for inf.
I think it's far higher for armoured vehicles
@@John_shepard there are good fortifications closer to the city. Which the muscovites haven't reached. Slava Ukraini
So selfless! Investing an hour of your time to save me 5 minutes is spouse level support!
That would NEVER have HAPPENED ... 3:31 ... if The Great Battle Commander - SHOIGU - was still in charge. He just wouldn't have ALLOWED this to happen.
😂😂😂😂 you shitting me??
@@geoffgill5334 Of-course I am??? ... 🤔 ...😼
Vegetable oil is biodegradable. It won't "contaminate the land".
Oil is natural and is biodegradable and is a contaminant too. You might be interested in the article: "Converting vegetable oil contaminated soil into fertile land.":
Most places in India Palm oil wastes are dumped into fertile lands taken on lease by the production units. The solid substances of these landfills can be often converted into fertilizers, bioenergy etc. After either treating of waste or relocating of waste leaves behind its oil residues Thus creating oil contaminated soil which is completely infertile and shows no existence of insects or worms in the soil.
This soil can take a minimum of 5-6 years to recover based on the level of contamination.
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Or check the Advances in Microbiology journal article "Bioremediation of Vegetable Oil Contaminated Soil with Two Microbial Isolates":
Vegetable oil spills are becoming frequent and are potentially more challenging than petroleum hydrocarbon spills. Microbial lipases occupy a place of prominence among biocatalysts and are often used for the remediation of vegetable oil spills. There is a need for extensive characterisation of lipase for the treatment of vegetable oil-polluted sites. This work was carried out to monitor the degradation pattern of vegetable oil. Two microbial isolates previously isolated from an oil mill in Ibadan, Nigeria were used for the bioremediation experiment. Soil samples (with some purposely contaminated with 2 different vegetable oils) collected from the Nursery section of the Microbiology department as well as soil samples from the oil mill were all subjected to varied treatment processes. Field bioremediation using the isolates was carried out for 12 weeks. The isolates were identified, and microbial load and residual oil weight were determined during the degradation period using standard methods. The two isolates were identified as Pseudomonas fluoresecens and Candida parapsilosis. The result of sterile soil samples with and without mixing option, from palm oil and palm kernel purposely contaminated soils for all the various treatments, showed a general increase in total viable counts from the 2nd week to the 12th week, however in the non-sterile counterpart there was a steady increase from the 2nd week to the 8th week and subsequently, a gradual decrease from the 10th to the 12th week. The residual oil weight in the sterile purposely palm oil-contaminated soil, treated with the consortium (POC) non-mixed gave a reduction of value from 0.335 g on day 0 to 0.13025 g by the 12th week. From the oil mill non-sterile, treated with (POC) non-mixed sample, the residual weight after 12 weeks of treatment was 0.0043 g from an initial weight of 0.01 g. The microorganisms Pseudomonas fluoresecens and Candida parapsilosis had the potential for the degradation of fatty waste. They could therefore be employed in the environmental cleanup of the vegetable oil spill sites.
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Or check the LACCEI journal article "Vegetable oil contaminated area: site-specific bioremediation treatments.":
The environment is negatively impacted by occasional discharges from industrial activity. When these events contain insoluble compounds such as fats and oils, they are high impact pollutants. This work focuses on an environmental problem in the industrial area of Buenos Aires, Argentina, where a lagoon was contaminated by vegetable oil residues. The aim of this work is to study bioremediation strategies in order to propose solutions for the remediation of the lagoon. For this way, autochthonous vegetable oil degrading bacteria were isolated from Lagoon 3, and the conditions to produce bacterial biomass were evaluated. Then, through microcosms systems using contaminated coastal soil, different site-specific treatments were tested: a control as natural attenuation; a bioaugmentation treatment with autochthonous vegetable oil degrading bacteria; two biostimulation treatments with nitrogen and phosphorus, and with spent mushroom substrate. Although both bioaugmentation and biostimulation showed promising results, biostimulation with N, P was the most effective for site-specific bioremediation of Lagoon 3, achieving 67% of oil vegetable reduction at 60 days.
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You're welcome.
@@ATPGeo If you don't believe me when I say that vegetable oil is biodegradable just pour some onto your lawn and see if it is still there in a year or so, or wheather your lawn has turned yellow. If that is against the law in England, I will do it for you I am a scientist in Germany and scientists do experiments, right?
@@ATPGeo Vegetable oil does not contain contaminants. You can cook with it or drink it. If it were not fit for purpose they wouldn't allow us to buy it. I have been using it for more than half a century.
@@ATPGeo There is a difference between saying "vegetable oil is a contaminant", by which you give it a predicate or attribute, and the concept of " vegetable oil contaminated soil" (see your first sentence) in which the contamination is a predicate of the soil. The first proposition is not necessarily true as a generalisation because we eat vegetable oil and it doesn't contaminate us. If it is old oil that has been used for cooking or refined by heating then it might contain all sworts of secondary substances that it has been contaminated with. I can't imagine that this is the case in Ukraine because it is a supplier of sunflower oil.
The term contaminated soil is very vague. It can mean anything from mixed with, to polluted by. If I pour a bucket of water onto the patio I have contaminated it. Some microbes will die, others will thrive as a result. I could count the dead ones. But what is the point? The scientific experiments on the toxisity of vegetable oil that you quote are presumably from other parts of the world where largescale dumping of vegetable oil and Palmoil byproducts from the cosmetics industry, not fit for consumption because they are chemically transformed and toxic, are a serious environmental problem.
Try to divert your attention from this type of relatively minor environmental issue in Ukraine to bigger issues. For example Asbestos dust. You only need to scratch asbestos cement and it releases thousands of asbestos-dust particles that can kill you in 20 years or so. You look at war foorage from Ukraine all the time. You see those asbestos cement panels being hit by Hymars and drones. It was used in communist countries longer than in the west. It is quite literally on every corner. Fences are made from it too. This is a contaminant that is millions of times more dangerous than a few thousand gallons of spillt sunflower oil. But nobody mentions it. Armies don't have HSEs do they.