Mrs. Kennedy Apologizes To The Queen | The Crown (Claire Foy, Jodi Balfour)
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 10. 09. 2024
- Mrs. Kennedy (Jodi Balfour) comes back to the palace with her tail between her legs to apologize to the Queen (Claire Foy) for her harsh words.
đThe Crown Season 2, Episode 8 'Dear, Mrs. Kennedy'
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Are you a person that can forgive and forget?
no
No im bloody not
I could, especially if one has a very good explanation of why they did what they did like Mrs. Kennedy gave.
That is a big NOPE! I wish I could, but I still wanna bitch slap my sister-in-law for something she did 15 years ago! đ
I can and do forgive. I work on forgetting by either eliminating the offending party from my life, (who needs toxicity and drama?), or through discussion and prayer. Holding on to transgressions only harms my peace more and Iâve no time for that. I have a beautiful life surrounded by people who treasure and respect me as I do them. It makes life so much easier.
The best acting with Foy is when she does nothing or says nothing, it's all in the eyes and body language, it's genius.
She is brilliant.
She was amazing in this role!
She was the best Queen in the show and saying this as a Olivia Colman fan.
@@menchualcarazmoreno1743 Well said. I agree with you. She is the best even though Colman rocks, hands down. :)
@@menchualcarazmoreno1743 Olivia Colman is just like Viola Davis... a lot of buzz and overrated comments, but average delivery in most of their acting
Those who admit and apologize in person are admirable.
Those who forgive are even more.
'To err is human, to forgive is divine.'
@ServandoIV. Very well said. Be happy. đđ
â@@DodderingOldMan Beautifully stated! đđđ
No, not even more lol its easy to forgive, hard to admit you're wrong
Itâs scenes like this that remind me of how much World history the Queen experienced during her reignâŠhow many world rulers came and went in her time.
There is a President Reagan movie coming out!
She reigned thru 12 or 13 US presidential administrations, and who knows how many PM's. RIP E2R.
You do know this never happened ?
When you find out the person you are envious of has a worse life than you.
My grandma told me, you never know what hell someone else lives
Being a woman in the Kennedy family was a ticket to Hell.
The Queens life was very rough at times, especially toward the end. Also being in a cage, most people wouldnt envy that. Jackie spent most of her life free as a bird. Far from perfect but most of her life was free.
Jodi Balfour certainly has Jackie's voice exactly right, such a shame that the wig, makeup and costume departments let her down so badly.
You could tell that the Queen admired Jackie as well, because it truly hurt her when she heard what Jackie had said about her. It also touched her when Jackie apologized her.
Jackie was nasty to many people. Even worse when she was drunk.
You know this is scripted and not a documentary, right?! Lol!
@@SandySaunders9142 yeah, no shit.
@@SandySaunders9142 save your breath Sandy ,they havent a clue.
@gc3847 Yeah, sad, but true.
The actress playing Mrs Kennedy does that booigse New England Grace Kelly accent so delicately and its flawless
But Jackie was from Long Island. She had more of a New York accent.
@@nassauguy48 Grace Kelly was from Philadelphia, but it's all blue blood old money and boarding schools
And Jodi is South African! đ A truly global situation with her voice. â€
@@makeitmakesense2616 Grace Kelly was not a blue blood; her father was an Irish American bricklayer who made a lot of money. She acquired her patrician accent when she became an actress and her family teased her about it. But she was gorgeous and classy and the posh accent suited her.
> booigse
the fucking what
Elizabeth enacts her power really well. Windsor is her home, her turf and she exposes Jackie Kennedy to British tradition and systems with the marching soldiers, the servants, British food and tea. The fact that the servants respond to her at the drop of a hat. Then she proceeds to tell Jackie Kennedy, 'I'm sure what you said wasn't as bad as everyone's making it out to be, but even if it was, it doesn't matter much because we barely know each other and we're not friends.' BURN!
You're forgetting one thing. Jackie herself was raised well and her parents had servants and big houses. They also took tea regularly in the English way and tradition. That was the way of the upper classes in the U.S. back in the day. So I don't think that part of it phased her one bit.
The tiny, tiny island nation, far reduced from its former colonial glory. The tired old protocol of a much reduced royal office was all that the queen could muster to impose some modicum of authority. The island nation the size of Ohio.
@@Jurrasick If you're talking just England and not the entire United Kingdom, then it would be closer in size to New York State, not Ohio.
@@retroguy9494 He's also forgetting that she was the Queen of considerably more than just the UK. The Commonwealth of Nations covers more land area than any other union of nations, covering some 21% of the total land area of the Globe, and the sum of it's GDP makes it one of the largest economic powers in the world. 'Reduced', sure, '...some modicum of authority.', now that is just ignorant.
@@Jurrasick Quality over quantity
At least we have some class on this island the size of "Ohio"
Elizabeth looks suspiciously at Jackie all through the scene. She doesn't trust her. Claire Foy is simply amazing!
and immediately softens when Mrs Kennedy mentions her post-natal depression.
ER sees JK is being fulsome & honest near the end. Who would say such things just to heal an unimportant relationship?
Forgiving and making nice is good, but trusting somone who has cut you would be foolish.
Why would she? She comes into her home, acts like she likes her then says degrading things about her for attention at a party. Tacky.
Iâm sure she is questioning if this is just some tactic to regain her reputation after embarrassing herself.
@@robpolaris7272 I think she was actually being very honest and open; penitent and contrite. That is what is missing in people today. And if someone IS kind or apologetic, others are too quick to automatically assume its phony. Perhaps because people hardly do it anymore.
It's widely known NOW that JFK was being injected with all kinds of drugs by the doctor now known as 'Doctor Feelgood.' But do you have any idea what it would have done based on 1960's attitudes if the Queen ever told what Jackie told her?
I know it's a load of fictional tosh, but the acting is superb. Claire Foy is exceptional.
Unfortunately, we will never know, what really happened between them.
@@mangopilar thatâs the way it is with all TV shows and movies based on real historical figures. All of it is true 100% BS and made up. Entertaining though. This scene was great.
Peter Morgan did confirm that Jacqueline Kennedy said some harsh words about Elizabeth II and he dramatized that here.
@@lordalessanNo he didnât. There are people who said they think Jackie said this and that. Thatâs all. Thereâs no confirmation. There are rumors and gossip.
â@@bbybella9937right? They were dying to pit two women against each other
.... "Mrs. Kennedy, do sit down".... That line... I'd be praying to all the gods up above to save me đđđđ
Well, it wouldn't be as bad as hearing Christopher Moltisante say, "Have a seat."
Uh thatâs just a very common British thing to say to a guest
Years later her own son had the same ego about his wife upstaging him.
Claire does a good job with the queens accent
Yes, it's good. I haven't seen the series, but from the clips I've seen, she seems quite hard. Do they show her in any softer moments?
@@jamesmcinnis208 very much so
â@@jamesmcinnis208 Yes, though few in through for she is after all the crown and represents the long lineage of the overseers who govern and rule the countries of the UK.
@@WitchKing-Of-Angmar Sorry, I don't know what "few in through" means.
Quite......
Whether it happened or not or it's just a storyline, when a person offers a sincere heartfelt fulsome apology it reflects well on the person and helps nurture forgiveness.
fulsome: complimentary or flattering to an excessive degree.
I don't think it means what you think it means.
@@jdrancho1864 I don't think you grasp the point another person is making like you seem to think you do. Better to mind your own business rather than try to police other people's commentary like some self-important scold.
@@jdrancho1864 Originally (ca. 13th c.), "fulsome" just meant all-encompassing, comprehensive, entire. A few centuries later, it had gained the connotation of being excessive, and that connotation gradually superseded the original meaning. But the original meaning never died, and as the word faded from common use, both senses--"comprehensive" _and_ "sycophantic"--have survived into the modern day. It really isn't accurate to say that either one is more correct. Both have weight and value now, and context clues us in on whether the meaning is positive or negative.
Purely from your response, you understood the context clues. Perhaps, instead of passing etymological judgment, it would be more productive to listen; perhaps, instead of dismissal of another, it would be more productive to question oneself and one's certainty.
Or not. We're talking heads on the internet, after all. Still, kindness and a smile seem rather more important of late. It feels like we have far to little of either.
Forgiveness is a gift we give ourselves.
@@teacup.demitasse and let an inaccurate, misguided comment stand??
Never!
I'm not sure if that is a true story or not, but, how Gracious of The Queen AND Mrs. Kennedy to have a frank conversation with dignity. Really, you would not expect anything else from them. Nice episode.
Its true that Jackie spoke out of turn, surprised that Elizabeth's wardrobe and hair styling were not more en vogue,
Considering she was the Queen of England.
And all the garbage that comes after appears made up out of whole cloth.
Jack was Jackie's charm and culture as a real political asset. He fully expected and hoped h would be especially popular in Paris for good reasons. And all reports are that he was very pleased about the outpouring of enthusiasm for her.
There's so much that's just made up here..
Even the timeline is impossible and years off.
@@scottvernon7347 one day I hope to sit down and see this saga! I havenât seen a thing but clips ! And they are fantastic!đđđ
@@melissasaint3283 he was NOT thrilled. He resented her for it.
@@thehair1474 Just because a TV show told you that doesn't mean it was true, particularly if no good historical evidence supports that theory.
Charles resented Diana and become brutally emotionally abusive over it, though. We do have tons of historical evidence for that.
@@melissasaint3283 didn't get it from a TV show, lol. Virtually all of Washington knew JFK resented his wife and mentally, verbally, and especially physically abused Jackie.
Imagine having a guest visit you at your house. You ask them to sit down, and two men in red coats pull out the two chairs for you and your guest. You say, "Shall we have tea?" and two altogether different men in red coats pour the tea for you and your guest. And all you have to say to make all four men in red coats and an additional man in a black coat leave the room is to look at one of them and say "Thank you." Truly a minor display of the naked power of the Queen of England.
I saw Prince Charles meet a group of hikers on a trial and it ended in a similar way. He was wonderfully cordial but in the end he said something like "thank you" and they *all got the hint* and bid him good day and resumed walking. It was so classy on both sides.
It's not really power - it's protocol.
I work in data communications - this is just having the servants and having a recognised set of signals to ask them to do certain things.
chileeeđČ... the way the Queen was spreading that butter and jam on that scone as if she was saying... "how dare you talk about me beetch"... like did y'all see how the Queen bit that scone as if she wanted to slap mrs. Kennedy.đ I wonder if their lil chat was forrealđ€đ
What exactly did Jackie do to piss off Queen Elizabeth II ?
@@steveboudreaux7933 I heard about this. As I recall it may have been when she criticized her clothes, her intellect and Buckingham Palace. Someone who watched this program should be more precisely accurate. Anyway, for a person of importance, as a First Lady is, she should not have spoken at a dinner/party as she did - whether true or not, or only her opinion.
â@@steveboudreaux7933 After a formal event, Jackie gossiped about the Queen's dress and hairstyle, stating they were dowdy and old fashioned.
*that's another one of The Queen's classy (non-verbal) reads i'll have to put in my repertoire. Lol!!!* đ„đ«đŻ
@@steveboudreaux7933 *it's on this channel...look for 'Jackie Kennedy Doesn't Like Queen Elizabeth | The Crown'* đ
Claire Foyâs performance is flawless. QEII â€ïž
She was the hands down best of the three. I kept going back to the series to watch her rather than how the story line would play out.
E2R
Her literal words and her body language tell very different stories. Brilliant!
I liked the angry scone dressing. Unrealistic, as she wouldn't have tipped her hand like that, but very funny to witness.
She wouldn't have had the scone before the sandwiches either.
Man, she liked a lot of butter!
@nassauguy48 It's clotted cream. And good to see that she put the cream on first. Her son may have bern Duke of Cornwall, but that's no reason for Her Majesty to follow that county's peculiar habits.
@@zacmumblethunder7466 Think I read somewhere that the Queen did prefer the Cornwall method in real life, but the Devon method is depicted here either because it was Claire Foy's natural preference or that's how they rehearsed this scene.
@@noseofsauron236 Oh dear.
I think Claire Foy was the best actress portraying the late Queen Elizabeth II in The Crown. She was able to reproduce that formidable glance the Queen gave to people when she was younger.
One thing that I don't think was mentioned was that when they were arranging the state dinner in honor of the Kennedys they asked is there anyone you'd like us to invite. Jackie said yes, my sister Lee is living in London but Buckingham Palace wouldn't b/c Lee was a divorcee. Sounds dumb but it was 1961 or 62.
I worked for a British company in.....2002 and the company news letter would list retirements, births etc well someone in accounts I new had just had a baby and I asked one of our auditors how come that employee's child's birth wasn't mentioned? He said oh not married.
WOW! Even then.
In about 1960 my mother left her husband and filed for divorce. She had nowhere to go, but her mother (my grandmother) would not allow her to come home to Scotland because the scandal would have been too great. She was not allowed to come home until she had remarried (she married my father). Divorcees were of course not received at court but I am surprised by your story from 2002.
They spread that culture and those beliefs all across the anglophonic world.
Disgrace for the baby worst of all
Two idiot parents
The current king had no qualms about sleeping with married women. He had long time affairs with them
I didn't know Dexter Morgan was JFK in a previous life.
What a perfect delivery on the buttering of the scone and her delivery line - perfectly done
Clare Foy the best Queen by a country mile.
Claire was always my favorite 'stage' of Elizabeth. And whether or not this conversation happened in just this way, I imagine she nailed the mannerisms of the real Elizabeth II perfectly in such a situation.
Speaking calmly with a smile while aggressively preparing her tea and snacks. As if she is saying âAllow me now to butter your bread, Mrs. Kennedyâđ
And this is after a show of force with the army out on full display.đ
That poor scone! It took beating
The sconeâs name was Mrs. Kennedy.
âI was high! In fact Iâm often high!â
Thatâs the excuse?
Lol
Very true though. JFK was shot up with meth from Dr. Feelgood, too. He was higher than a kite.
She wasnât excusing her behavior. She was explaining. Big difference.
@@cherylschantz9893 Jackie had to do a lot of "explaining" to a boat load of people.
I like the reaction of the actress playing the Queen when she realizes that Jackie is just a person too who can hurt inside ...
There is NO WAY this conversation actually occurred. I guffawed throughout the whole thing.
it's astonishing so many here think this actually happened...it's a drama , allegedly " entertainment ".....
Absolutely agree. Should be illegal to make this rubbish. I've read everything there is to read about Jackie for the last 50 years. Every book and this is fantasy
@@anireseegam6128Brilliant. Letâs outlaw fictionalised drama. đ
Our late Queen balanced so much in her life, from a young age. Our late Queen was the original trailblazer for women coming into their own. A true woman of substance, duty, self-sacrifice and decency and incredible love for her people. Great Respect to an amazing woman who led the British Royals into the new age.
"Sometimes you need a fortress."
Love how Elizabeth applies herself to her scone!
Great scene! đ
I really need to sit down and make a point of watching this show from start to finish.
Me too!! So many CZcams scenes watched, practically the whole series....but never have I sat down and watched an entire episode!
you must, its so well done !
Watch it, you'll enjoy it.
Absolutely worth the watch, it was incredibly done. Just take the history with a grain of salt, as there was a lot of artisitc liberty taken.
@@tonyktown thanks Tony. Yeah, from what I've seen in bits and pieces, the factual data is pretty limited. Having lived from 1964 - present and a history/poli sci major (spelled: addict), it's why I want to watch it start to finish. :-)
âJackelyn Kennedy would never arrive ANYWHERE, and much less, the Queen's palace, with a coiffure like THAT!
I don't think the Queen would have sliced a scone in half. You BREAK a scone in half.
Cutting it allowed her to wield a knife in Jackie's presence and not just to spread jam or cream.
I find this scene super interesting. This episode portrays Jackie as deliberately charming everyone around her in the way she thinks will be most effective. With the queen, she sees someone who's insecure in glamorous Jackie's shadow. So she talks about how shy she feels, how insecure, how out of place. The queen thinks they've bonded, but in fact Jackie's actually judging her the entire time--and those judgments come out later. Maybe she was under the influence when they did come out, but she had to have thought them up on some level or other in order to have given them voice. In this scene, when she goes to apologize, she does it as vulnerable, out-of-place, looking up to the queen as everything she 'wishes she were.' Elizabeth totally fell for it, acting guilty later on that she didn't respond by baring her own insecurities and her own admiration for Jackie. In reality, if Elizabeth had groveled the way she later said she should have, Jackie's track record goes to show that she'd take that as an ego boost and continue looking down on the queen. Jackie's vulnerability in this episode is a means to an end of manipulating/charming the queen, and it works.
Edit to add: I just finished rewatching this episode, and it's apparent that the queen recognizes Jackie's manipulations when she sees that Jackie hasn't changed out of her bloody clothes. She realizes how good Jackie is at playing the game. And she decides to play it, too, by honoring JFK above and beyond what custom demands. You can see that she's fuming the entire time that she's making those choices.
Thank you! This is how I interpreted her apology. She may be under the influence but the "cocktail" made her thoughts about the queen ve apparent.
Yet Jackie decorated the white house in European style and was her preferred escape from the US. Let us not forget Jackie was a human being governed for some time under the Kennedys empire. Her husband is heavily under the influence of steroids and opiates
It is the third time I watch this scene, but for the first time I am kind of interested in Jackie Kennedy's state of mind. She seems like an interesting personality. đ€
She was an interesting
personality and very
intelligent. She absolutely
hated the invasion of her
privacy; during the post-
White House Years.
She was also very fearful
after the JFK, RFK and the
Martin Luther King
assassinations. Ithink the
need for her and the children
to have physical and financial
security drove her to marry
Aristotle Onassis. He married
Jackie for her fame and social
connections to rich Americans
JFK did not leave her hardly
any money. Her father was
broke/dead(?) Her step-father
told both Jackie and Lee as well
as their step-brother, Gore Vidal,
that they were not being left
money.
Joe Sr. and Rose Kennedy left
all of their money equally to
all of their grandchildren as
well as some money to a few
charities. While their children
were alive; they were generous
to them; but favored the sons
This is a tv programme not real.
your absolute correct- well said. Few understand that. Jackie never had to worry over a car payment but worried her children could be kidnapped or worse was an issue. I'd have married King Kong to save life of my children . Most thought she married him out of greed for $ - it was a safety issue & until his son died/ it worked.
*you're or you are â@@sheilacarey347
@@Peach-y8b The scene, yes. But these glances at how is she as a person match things I read about her before. That she seemed like a very outspoken person when in reality she was not a people person, with many conflicting thougts because of aspects in her personal life. I personally never felt interest on learning about Jackie, i mean, she was first lady of another country. But now I am interested.
Claire Foye is phenomenal â€
Jodi Balfour would be great playing Karen Carpenter !
WOW! Great observation!
and Gilda Radner
@@adamgarrick3778 Yes, I think we all deserve a better Carpenters movie.
â@@zackzeman6449No.
But can she sing? đ€
I don't believe that ever happened, Jackie never came across as a one to apologize
Nor would she reveal this much about her personal life with JFK.
â@@thejoyofthemusicinmylife7897Even if she did, The Queen would never tell anyone else.
@@madabbafan perhaps so but why take a chance. Jackie believed she owed The Queen an apology but she did not owe her an explanation.
@@madabbafan perhaps so.
Exactly. Never happened
The Queen ate scones the Cornish way according to her butler - jam first, and then cream on top. Shocking research mistake by The Crown!
Thank heavens! Firm jam first, soft, fluffy cream on topâŠlike any SENSIBLE person. đđ
Even us uncouth Aussies know that!
I was worried when I saw that, but it IS only tv, after all.
@@colinr1960 Fear not, my worthy Australian friend, the Real Queen knew the correct way! đ
Right?! I hope someone got fired for that blunder....
@@MaleOrderBride Not only fired, but taken to the Tower of London!
My Queen was a stable individual over 70 years. That constant, while presidents, prime ministers, dictatorships and republics came and went. We always had the queen to rely on.
Back when people handled conflict with class
Back in the day they wouldnât have talked at all. You get this is fiction, right? This is TODAYâS ideal, not yesterdayâs reality.
Sometimes scenes come together really well. Here's a good example.
Claire is great but Jodi is seriously underrated. I watched this when it aired, didnât know who she was at the time. Sheâs great in this role.
Nor me. Her accent seems much less pronounced than the way Natalie Portman portrayed her.
Not a monarchist but QE2 was a legend we did not deserve.
Thank God Her Majesty placed the cream on the scone first - before the Jam! AND didnât double dip! Classy.
YES! YOU NOTICED!!!!!! hahahaha!
It takes a lot to humble yourself so totally before someone youâve wronged.
I think this is ths exact same spot where HMTQ did the skit with Paddington Bear. đąđąđą RIP, QE II. You are sorely missed!!
Actually it isn't. None of the Crown's scenes were filmed in Buckingham Palace.
@@timhazeltine3256 Well, of course not. I meant the reproduced spot. Take a look at this recreated location and compare with the Pennington Bear video. They're very similar.
Paddington bear - get it right !
@@timhazeltine3256That is not what was said. The point still stands. You are unnecessarily nasty to someone making an innocent and sweet reference. Why?
@@nzessmamwhat? Bear is a proper noun in that name. Capital letter.
I must make the time to get back to watching The Crown.
JFK had problems with infidelity but the idea that he was verbally or physically abusive to Jackie appears to have no Asia in anything. Indeed, he was an astute politician and proud of his wife's culture, charm and accomplishments...all the evidence I've been seen is that he was pleased she was such a hit in Paris -- it was specifically hoped for, as she grew up bilingual, and at tended the Sorbonne and spent time living in Paris before she married....he named her childhood dog after Charles de Gaulle!
Its strange that the writers would make this up ou of whole cloth. It almost seems calculated to eacho Charles' intense jealousy of Diana's popularity when they began to travel, and his all too real emotional and verbal abuse...as to downplay it by comparison.
But since these are real human beings, it seems unfair to falsely depict them in such a brutal light merely to form them into a foil fo the King of England.
(The timeline is way off as well....they visited. Ot weeks or months but literally years before Kennedy's assassination)
It's as if they deliberately dumbed down one of the most sophisticated First Couples in American history to make their own Royal couple look superior.
Asia?
It was well known in political circles that JFK was verbally AND physically abusive to Jackie.
Christ! didn't this woman ever pay the light bill???!!!
Why are all these scenes so dark? Even the morning scenes are in need of some light!
@@JoanMorrison-vq2jc "Artsy" director.
After Jack Kennedy died, Philip went to the funeral without the Queen. He played with John John and helped Jackie out a little bit. A year and a half later, the Queen donated an acre at Runningmead for a Kennedy memorial. There is a picture of the event. The Queen is on the right by herself looking angry. The two Kennedy brothers are in the middle looking left, looking angry, then there is Jackie holding John John's hand and on the other side is Philip holding John John's other hand. Jackie and Philip are laughing and smiling at each other. The three of them look just adorable together. â€
It was a solemn occasion therefore they aren't going to have giddy expressions. Also there is a protocol on how they stand at the ceremony. People see so much in a photo without knowing the hearts and minds of the people shown in them.
Cool story bro
I have seen, on a number of occasions the âofficial â film of the Runningmead Dedication and at no time does the Queen appear angry or otherwise upset. She was personally very sad at Jackâs assassination and as I understand it was the driving force behind the dedication. Afterwards the Queen and Prince Philip entertained the Kennedy Family, Jackie, Bobby, Ted and I think Eunice or one the other sisters. The Kennedyâs were apparently deeply touched by the Queenâs hospitality and always remembered her with affection.
One can tell how Jacqueline's explanation succeeded in placating the Queen. The latter was very snippy at first, to the point of rapidly decorating and eating her biscuit and drinking her tea. But she then slowed down and looked upon the First Lady with a sense of understanding and even pity.
I love how Jackie is Tan in this scence, to express the style and youthfulness of Camelot
Love that the Queen chose the Devonshire cream tea!
What do mean by chose. It was always served the Queen love her scones and tea..đđ
â@@aussiekat6379There are two ways to put the cream on a scone. Cornish is jam first, cream second. Devonshire is the other way around. I'm from Devon, so that's what I noticed.
@@siankinrade1994 nope in Australia itâs jam first then cream well itâs been that way as far as I can remember itâs how my great grandparents etc alway served it.. I guess itâs up to the individual how they like it.
This scene reminds me of the first time I went to the ballet and was surprised when the ethereal dancers landed with pretty loud thuds. The staff here might be silent, but theyâre far from noiseless.
If Jackie had indeed been drunk when she said those things, I'm sure that factoid would have gotten back to Elizabeth as well. Doesn't excuse the behavior or the comments, but does explain them in a more understandable way.
The scene suggests she wasn't just drunk, and obviously the queen of the United Kingdom is pretty familiar with drunk people, but that she was actually probably high.
News was different then. Jackie was their princess and they would tell anything to make her look good. She was horrible to the queen, sly put downs, when they first met. So why would the queen sink to her level?
World leaders and foreign royals have been calling Buckingham Palace a disgusting pig sty for hundreds of years. Even today there are tourists claiming it smells like piss and I've worked with contractors that say most of the property is in horrid shape, smells like ass and looks like it hasn't been well kept in ages. Why is it so offensive for Jackie to say it when the Queen wasn't even in the room?
Not drunk- they were on amphetamines.
@@pnwflipper2089 She was also drinking alcohol in the clip.
â€FANTASTIC Claire Foyâ€love from Finland
Jackie might have said that in private ,but she had more class than to be public about it
The scene actually begins with troops marching/riding (?) by & Jackie being led up the grand staircase past posted guards. All in full traditional regalia. đ
IT TAKES - GREAT - COURAGE !â To ADMIT - WHEN YOU ARE - WRONG đ± âŠ.!â GOOD !! FOR JACKIE !â đ
Luv this scene --
Whether the apology was written or in person; Jackie, i am sure would be strong enough and a decent enough human being to
apologize for saying something inappropriate and/or hurting another person's feelings or reputation. Jackie was a true lady!
...and the award for "Something That Never Happened" goes to...
English ppl who never read or research.
The Queen received her apology so very well.. she understood where Mrs. Kennedy was coming from...
This the funniest scene ever đ€Ł
The way the Queen is buttery her scone butter then da jam đ
I heard the Queen did jam then cream not vice versa.
You are correct, she did do jam then cream.
I had to bail after two seasons. It was based on real people but not real events and always trying to discern/decide which events/meetings really happened left an emotional detachment to caring about the characters. Which is also a long way of saying that when Claire Foy left, I was done.
Yes, it was based on real events. This private meeting at Windsor is recorded, as youâd know if you bothered to read anything. What other events are fiction? Iâll wait.
from memory - I dont think ive ever witnessed a more accurate depiction of Jackie - looks - diction - all
Claire is so superb l feltvit was the queen herself realy. very proud of the Queen . wonderful scene.
oh thank you so much.
we always having hard times in lives. i think i more forgive than i did before.
I couldn't take Elisabeth seriously when she filling her sconeđđ
I wonder if this meeting really took place.
That the wife of a president would use the Queen as a therapist? I seriously doubt it.
Agreed, but still fun to watch.
She really did insult the queen horribly
@@branflakes12341On the show. Thereâs no proof of it in real life.
There were reports of Mrs. Kennedy visiting the Palace before the scheduled visit, but no one knows what was discussed
Great dialogue between two extraordinary ladyïŒWhat a good performanceđđđ
this scene makes me want to eat too đ
I wish to highlight the excellent work of the stunt-scone in this scene which took more abuse than any standard scone would have been allowed to endure.
Masterful scene! Absolutely perfect from all sides!
Queen upsetting Cornwall by having a Devonshire cream tea. Its Jam first then clotted cream, not the other way
The actual Queen put the jam on first.
Depends on how thick the cream is! If clotted cream, it goes on first , like butter, then jam. If cream is whipped/fluffy, jam goes on first, cream o top. Common sense ! â€
@@deegeraghty9426 Jam first. Cornish clotted cream second. That's how Her Majesty ate it.
Wow that was intense and revealing re Mrs Kennedy!
I am so glad that I found this. The human dimension of all great people is something too often overlooked. We assume that people we admire are somehow immune from human problems. And of course they are not.
What a surprise to see Michael C. Hall in this video... portraying JFK!
I need to re-watch this series. Itâs been a few years.
Queen Elizabeth did not just cope with her job, she was in charge--she was the queen.
She was very limited. Parliament was and still is thee POWER.
I have never watched âThe Crownâ, but the actress playing Jackieâs character just doesnât look finished.
Both were class acts.
In a palace would a floor sound like particle board?
This scene may not have happened in real life but I guess it goes to show that every couple has issues, no matter how perfect the situation looked on the outside.
Well yes, we also know JFK cheated on Jackie constantly.
Could anyone imagine today's American leaders and their spouses from BOTH parties acting with such class and diplomacy?
QE2 had nothing but good things to say about Michelle obama
Michelle Obama showed up to meet the Queen wearing a cardigan and gave the Elizabeth II a hug. I have a VERY high regard for Mrs. Obama but didn't she get the memo? And of course the Queen said nice things about Mrs. Obama...her late Majesty knew her role and played it perfectly. Probably the only person who knew what the Queen really thought was Prince Philip...but to my original point, who doesn't like Mrs. Obama; she is an irresistible person.
I donât think either woman would call this portrayal âclassâ at the time. The Queen clearly shows her anger. Jackie gets waaaay too personal, and the fact that she brings up the uncomfortable incident at all would be seen as tacky.
You never cut a scone, you break it.
Balderdash
Fiction is always more titillating than reality!!
I hardly doubt Jacqueline Kennedy curtsied and bowedâŠ.
So you DO doubt, or you don't doubt?
She did there photos
President Dexter is no one to mess with!
I am sure this is pure fantasy.However very good acting.
Scene's strong, and I especially like the part at the end where Jackie's lauding Elizabeth's handling of Ghana, and Claire Foy's radiating "It's the job dear. Good God, can't you see that/do it?"
I can't imagine Jackie telling the Queen that the man with the hand on the nuclear button is stoned most of the time. The Queen is the British head of state and she certainly would have passed that info on to British intelligence. Jackie couldn't have been that naive or dumb.
Very interesting window into Jackie's and John's relationship and what they did to cope the high stress.
Not coping, crutching. And quite dangerous crutches.
The cream goes on top of the jam, Lizzie!
I honestly wonder if this is how their marriage really was
If so, it's worse than I thought. đ„
We fought a revolution so we wouldn''t have to deal with this bunch. What's the fascination.??