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How is Trevor Bauer Cheating And Why Nobody Cares
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Dang, this goes soooo much deeper than I thought
Third
man why cant people just play legit this hurts to watch
yo i love your videos, you are in my top 10 fo sho
There is no cheating going on because Baseball doesn’t exist. Your getting fired up over something that isn’t real.
*You’re
But still, nice
@Bandanna Guy nobody ever will, because I don’t either
@@Ryndaniels_37 it’s a joke lol
@Bandanna Guy oh I read it wrong lol
This comment section doesn’t exist either
Bauer has been calling this out for years, and he's one of the only people getting singled out by the sports journos for sticky stuff and having balls examined. He can be controversial but he's certainly right about this
i was going to comment almost this exact thing. i was actually watching the jomboy video on this topic the other day
Trevor should declare himself the "Whisteblower" and demand immunity! Jose Canseco should have done the same thing with the steroids btw.
@@jaysantos536 bro you’ve replied to almost everyone comment everyone got it he’s the whistleblower
He been exposing it forever and said fuck it
He is getting singled out because he is making history while doing it.
This is what happens when an entire sport decides that enforcing the "unwritten rules" is more important than enforcing the real ones.
Uhh except it is an actual rule. Someone hasn't read obr.
Use a substance to give you unhittable shit that’s okay but god forbid you swing on a 3-0 count that’s unfair to the other team
@@bkr1895 Well said. Yeah if these damn pitchers are putting God knows what on the ball..Elmer's,Pine tar, Gorilla Glue...then the hitters should be able to use a cork bat and Steroids. Finally they did the right thing...
Amen
It’s a written rule idiot
It’s hard for me to get behind calling him a cheater when the dude literally alerted MLB about it, waited a year, then went ham with the secret sauce. What else was he supposed to do? Not use it? That would be idiotic.
for real... if they make an "example" of him they have no credibility, shocked I know
@@tightbhole420 They already made an example of him. Suspended him for two years.
This dude woke up and started spitting facts
@@Furluge not for cheating though, it was for a sexual assault case he was proven innocent in but the mlb just didn’t like him so they banned him
@@Joe-gt5lw Yeah I know. That's what I mean when I say they made an example of them. Anyone can see the real reason he's suspended is because he made MLB look bad because they wanted to ignore this problem.
Trevor Bauer: "Everyone is cheating by doing this. Please do something about it MLB"
MLB: *crickets*
Trevor Bauer: "Ok, I'll cheat too."
MLB: "Woah woah woah, we are not ok with that."
@@shutupitisonlyjoke3529 You can't add significant RPMs to your pitches without cheating. It's literally the whole point of the video.
@@shutupitisonlyjoke3529 Seems like I hit a nerve? You acted like you can add 600+ RPMs by ""fixing his grip" LOL
@@shutupitisonlyjoke3529 Trevor Bauer himself said he found that there is no way to significantly up your RPMs without foreign substance. He pretty much outed himself before he even started using it. Unless he magically found a way and kept his mouth shut about it, I doubt it’s natural improvement.
I’m not trying to be against Bauer at all, I’m a fan of him and I really like what he does for baseball.
@@shutupitisonlyjoke3529 hahaha you're so mad LOL. You can add RPMs but not at a 200-300 RPM difference. It's in the video. But you know...."GRIP" hahaha
@@shutupitisonlyjoke3529 lol bro you're so mad. I didn't like my own reply at all. What a doofus hahahaha
Bauer should enter the HoF as the best chemist the game has ever seen.
He also should get "Whistleblower" immunity from prosecution!
look at his tweets from 2014 tho
Ok
Jose Canseco begs to differ
@@Em-Jayyy Unless I'm mistaken, don't think Conseco was making the stuff he was injecting, but he was definitely a next level distributor lol
Every pitcher : *cheats*
MLB: meh, who cares...
Trevor Bauer : *also starts cheating*
MLB: Well well well, what do we have here...
Astros cheated : cheaters
Red Sox cheated: ---
@@arianprofit THANK YOU
He not only cheated, he did so for a single inning and then went back to not using his substance to show via stats the difference. When nothing came of it, he said fuck it and became possibly the best at it. All the while he is being very loud about his disappointment in MLB in how they are trying to enforce rules that are somewhat vague and seemingly being policed unevenly. it will probably get him in trouble in the long run. Hopefully his contract still pays out at least the bulk of his contract in the event he gets banned.
Well Trevor Bauer technically isn’t cheating because is substance is sweat and Rozen which are both level in the mlb so really he hasn’t done anything wrong
@@dabeans6171 lolololol uhhhhhh yea No.....he was DEFINITELY using spider tack....hes literally admitted as much. If it were just rosin, like you said, thats literally what's provided by MLB so how would that be cheating and everyone be talking about him cheating? Sorry.....I know all of you want to just bury your heads in the sand and keep bitching about the Astros.....but MLB teams have been pouring millions of dollars in to developing these substances and at least 80% of pitchers were using it.
But i know....."dauuRrr tRasH cAnZ iS mAkE mE giGgLE. huEhuEhuE aSStEriSkSSS!! mAkE fUn oF dA aSteRooOsSs!!"
Honestly, i love the thought that teams have whole teams of secret scientists trying to come up with the best way to cheat
It's a little like NASCAR in that regard.
I have a question, is this a conspiracy theory channel? I started watching and I learned some stuff but then I started smelling bullshit and I don't know enough to say anything
bauer isnt the problem, he’s the solution- love him or hate him, he’s promoting conversation on the topic and forcing MLB to pick a lane. If the MLB fines him or suspends him, that’s absolutely ridiculous. He’s mouthed off about a lot of shit over the years and I don’t love everything he does, but he’s been an absolute asset when it comes to pulling back the curtain and finding out what’s actually going on. Great for baseball.
This is the best take. He is forcing manfreds hand and I love him for it.
I think mlb is finding out with all the balls they’re collecting is that damn near everyone is doing it.
Couldn't agree more, though I think he understands that punishment is inevitable. If he is at the podium of the subject then he is going to be the one targeted unfortunately. I commend him for being vocal and not being hush hush about it though honestly.
Couldnt have said it better myself 🙌
He was promoting conversation before, but he’s not now. Now that he’s realized how much it has taken his game to the next level, he never says shit about it anymore. He hated it before, but now he doesn’t want to give it up.
@@mirraco323I hear ya. I do think the beginning exploitation of it was purely him hoping MLB was going to take an early stand. I don't believe, because no one can truly say but him and his close circle, that using the substance was the ultimate goal.
I also believe once MLB took no approach to the matter that the option was to continue the traditional path or follow the trend that was going to lead to these insane stats and increased spin rates from pitchers and get him a contract that he got. The morals of it can certainly be in question, but I don't think any of us could truly say we wouldn't do the same thing if in these pitchers shoes.
I want to see a ball stick to a bat in a game.
Thatd be fkkkin hilarious
@Joe NotSure lmao I remember this. And did the MLB do anything about it? Fuck no lol
If that happens the pitcher is screwed
It'd be more likely for an infielder to get his hand stuck in his glove or on his bare hand on the transfer.
@@JTTTTTGGGGG That's because it's perfectly legal for catchers to use pine tar on their equipment, dumbass.
The amount of repetition in the video reminds me of writing essays in highschool
This channel can be fun but the quality of video is preeety bad
I wish I had this high of standards when it came to free content on CZcams.
Did you hear that Trevor Bauer increased his spin rate from 2018 and perhaps Bauer has the best substance in the league?
lol right, how many times can you say the same exact thing over and over again just to hit the required time limit for youtubes payment algorithm
That's typical when covering a problem that's been ongoing but not talked about.
I don't watch baseball, I don't collect cards, I really don't care about baseball... and yet I have been watching your videos every night for a week. Maybe I do like baseball, or maybe you're great at what you do- either way keep it up!
Same
I am in this exact same situation. I don’t really care about sports at all but these videos have been interesting to me, so I’ve been watching a ton of them.
Same
same until this year, all because of this channel
Dude same with me 😂
Dodgers: “Ravioli Ravioli give me the formuoli”
Underrated comment
Lmao
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You gave me nostalgia with this comment 😂😂😂
I think it’s absolutely ridiculous that Bauer has been made into the “face of foreign substances” when he has been one of the most vocal *opponents* to their use. He stood up for integrity and nobody in power cared; he shouldn’t be faulted for refusing to compete without an advantage that others enjoy.
....says the Dodger homer. We get it, you'd love to gargle Bauer's nuts because you're a Doyers fan. He's clearly a cheater, regardless of whether he was an opponent. Those things are mutually exclusive.
The problem is that he is forcing mlb to deal with the issue so they are pissed off at him.
@@scottiep6703 If you are going to act like a child and throw insults around, then I won’t be polite either. It seems that, in addition to lacking the maturity of an adult, you also aren’t equipped with basic reading comprehension. What I suggested in my comment is that Bauer is almost certainly using illegal foreign substances, but it’s ridiculous to make him the “face of foreign substances” as if he is the leading abuser of this crime. I never suggested that he isn’t using foreign substances, and by that standard, yes, he is a cheater, as are many others. You don’t seem to be able to understand the distinction between a single participant (who, by the way, clearly resisted the participation) and someone who is the main culprit. Bauer is the former but is being treated by some as if he is the latter.
Jim, if he was pitching for the Giants or Padres you’d feel the same way? That’s a legitimate question.
@@rocketyank Yes, I would. I'm a Dodgers fan, to be sure, but I don't take rivalries too seriously beyond just having some fun. I don't actively try to trash talk the Giants, the Padres, or even the Astros for that matter. And for the record, I don't know of any evidence suggesting that Yu Darvish, Alex Wood, Mark Melancon, or any other MLB pitcher ought to be singled out for using foreign substances.
Ohtani passed the umpires' inspection today. Doubts about him are improper.
If he is using it for pitching I wish he would stop . 4 and 1 at all star break is not exactly stellar.
Otanhi is not a cheater He is just a good pitcher and hitter
@@BT28YT good pitcher and great hitter
everyone has to go through it quit crying
@@crazypez8199 correcto
If they suspend Bauer, it’s not for cheating, it’s for making a fool of the MLB.
Or YOU are the fool! Yep, youre the fool!
Or for being an idiot and choking out random girls because he’s a perverted little boy
this aged well
Yep, YOU are the fool!
@@michaelblanco8099 Same as your mom!
Love him or hate him, Bauer's discussion on the sticky stuff is as heads-up as we can get
We all love him
He’s still a cheater though
He definitely didn't want to cheat. But knew if he wanted to hang he had to do it. I respect him the most out of all the cheaters becausehe made it public. But this can easily be stopped, step 1 look at who's gained a crazy amount of spin rate and step 2 have umps routinely walk up and feel those pitchers fingers and check their glove.
@@DylanPettett he didn’t want to cheat at the beginning but i bet he loves it now. he’s been cheating for some seasons and got good money for it. he’s still a cheater and him speaking out about it made him a target
@@bri-xw6zb 1 season. the covid season. the season before that is when he called Garret Cole out for it, and he had the game where he had 1 inning in which his spin rate shot up.
I side with Bauer. He talked about this years ago and was ignored -- so he said fuck it, I will too
He did the same thing Bonds did, essentially. MLB was ignoring the, um, 'balanced breakfast' problem, so he said 'fuck it i'll do it too.' Honestly, MLB should make a standardized foreign substance for everyone to use that isn't the thing currently in use... Probably the old sunscreen+rosin. Maybe have a tub of the stuff where the rosin bag is. Make it fair so that pitchers have a good grip without gluing their fingers to the damn ball.
I side with Bauer also
fuck that. i’m not saying fuck it. baseball sucks with these substances. fine you want to be easier on bauer, sure. but i hope they crack down, and i hope bauer stops using his stuff. if not he should be punished because he’s cheating, period.
@@MrMtc228 Hes forcing the issue with MLB, making them address it. Like him or hate him he is helping baseball
@@danielc2545 in a backwards way, yes. and that’s why i’d go lighter on him and not make him the scapegoat. but i also don’t think if MLB starts cracking down that he should continue to be allowed to cheat
You are talking about Ohtani while he was injured and after surgery before full recovery vs. fully recovered? Dude, compare to his Japan spin rate.
v
fr lol
Bauer has bigger problems than sticky stuff.
well his other issues involve sticky stuff too
He was providing the sticky stuff in the other situation tho
@@chatolo1 what other problems does Bauer have?
@@liammarra4003 Sexual assault case
@@mrsialeipata8615 ruhrow, thas a no good. appreciate the reply.
I have Never ever played baseball in my life and I can’t stop watching this CZcams channel! BTW thanks for the likes guys I’ve never gotten this many before! Thank you!
SAME
appreciate it boss, truly.
@@BaseballDoesntExist you a GOAT
If you watch it pass but if you just start getting interest ? You came to the right place
@@Flyersfan28 ikr
*Trevor Bauer:* "Hey everyone is cheating with that substance, why don't you stop it?"
*MLB:* "I see nothing wrong"
*Trevor Bauer:* "Alright... so that means that I can use it too?"
*MLB:* "I guess so."
*Trevor Bauer:* "Ok, if you say so." (uses substance)
*MLB:* "SIKE! YOU'RE SUSPENDED"
Trevor should declare himself the "Whisteblower" and demand immunity! Jose Canseco should have done the same thing with the steroids btw.
Egggg-zactly!
“so you guys arent gonna punish me if i use this, right”
mlb: nah dude youre good
“okay im gonna use it and cheekily tweet about it”
mlb: wait
Trevor Bauer = Jose Canseco 2.0
@@Maximus_Tom nah. hes been screaming about it for years and per usual MLB is angrier about him making them look bad.
Bauer: Time to cook Jesse.
but mr bauer why do you beat yo girfriend
I just want to point out that only Ohtani's spin rate on his four seam fastball and slider increased. I don't think it has to do with substances. I don't think there's a way that Ohtani would just use substances when he's about to throw a specific pitch. Maybe it has to do with his increased velocity because last year he was throwing high 80s to low 90s because of an injury.
Bauer called the entire league out for this shit for years and no one listened so he decided to beat them at their own game, and now they care...poor guy can’t catch a break...
you could say the same for steroid users, it was known about for years so players like barry bonds decided that if nothing was going to be done about it then he will too. Yet, you don't see him getting praise for it lol
@@daltonred7774 Injecting yourself with hamrful drugs =/= sticky stuff
@@detroitvseverybody3813 "more effective than steroids" all im saying is cheating is cheating. If all you fanboys would hop off Bauers nuts for awhile you would realize he is also in the wrong
@@daltonred7774 is he really tho? Like honestly I hate the dodgers but if you can’t beat em, you’re not using PEDs, and the MLB won’t do anything about it why wouldn’t you?
@@jacobbirlew175 Look! “Everyone” is looting that convenience store! The cops aren’t arresting anyone! You’re a total loser if you don’t jump on that bandwagon and rob the place! It would be stupid and irresponsible NOT to loot the place. Bauer is just being competitive! Leave the poor guy alone!
Trevor Bauer exposed all of this 2-3 years ago 💀and posted all of it online said spin rate was the key and the mlb did nothing about it. He even said the substances to use.
The mlb allows it, everyone is using it. Why not right? $20-30m/yr is alot of money to pass up just to be a "clean" mediocre pitcher.
@@peasterdelryn3915 exactly, he tried to be clean but it got him nowhere and honestly its ironic he became what he was against but can you blame him he's winning games and making millions
Trevor should declare himself the "Whisteblower" and demand immunity! Jose Canseco should have done the same thing with the steroids btw.
@@dumbass4826 I think that’s why mlb is targeting him. They’re mad he brought it up and publicized what the insiders already knew.
@@2005StangMan that is a great point i agree
this is an awesome video. slightly related, I've played Australian rules football here since i was 8, and after 20 years i used griptec after coming to a new team and was recommended it. I found my control of the ball and ability to hold/take marks in wet conditions increase massively. Furthermore, players have arms and gear oiled to make them harder to tackle and compete against.
Seeing this video its made me wonder if we're heading in the same direction, or if we are already there. In fact, it's completely blatant too. with a water runner even running out with a can of griptec to re apply it to our full forward.
18:19 that ump stepping over the fallen batter makes me laugh all the time
It's just like when everyone was on steroids and hitting 50+ Homeruns a year the mlb just turns a blind eye
Or when everyone were stealing signs and MLB turned a blind eye.
@Tuck Gibson the mlb knew what was going on during the steroid era and didn’t do anything until the future when they had to. So they turned a blind eye
They should just allow any steroid and any illegal substance, problem solved.
Ya no shit eh, Mark Mcguuire, Sammy Sousa, all roided up terrible era of baseball
@@carloslugo3666 Present your case, then. The Astros story basically just blew up by normal people posting evidence on CZcams.
bauer did the right thing and i have mad respect for it. smart move on his part because he just wanted the problem to be addressed, so he cheated and brought mad attention to it. if they catch him and do something about it, then he gets what he wants. if not, then he has some of the most amazing seasons ever… win win
That’s exactly correct
And now Bauer is going to jail for being a piece of shit human being and rightfully so
You have mad respect for an abuser hahahahahahahahaha
>>>>a man who attacks women
mad respect okbud
@@omarnoor9833 that he could not have known mate.
What's confusing me is the number of blowouts occurring this season despite the altering of balls. It seems like while it is harder to make contact with the ball, once it has been made the ball just freaking FLIES.
Imagine Chapman throwing 110mph with some of that sticky shit on his fingers 😳
....are you suggesting he doesnt use sticky stuff?
Its the Yankees, thats ok
I don’t have to imagine, I just have to turn on a Yankees game
He tried to cheat and do that Vs Altuve but Jose still proved he was his daddy sticky stuff or not + Jose isn't a cheater
@@chadzbirdzofficial4631 bruh are you joking about Jose not being a cheater? Like it’s a joke right?
To be fair, Ohtani threw very well in 2018 with some shoulder issues. Got tommy John and now is throwing well again 2 seasons later
cause he cheating
@@evanlilly708 you’re just mad he good
@@upgspeed he’s amazing but i wouldn’t doubt he uses something too. pitchers are starting to get too comfortable w it, you can see almost every pitcher noticeably touch a part of their arm or hat or glove or pants
@@swoosh1873 shohei is not using anything cause he is pitching just like he was pitching sense high shcool ( good and hard 4seem fastball and a great split fastball ) and he is not a dominant pitcher like degroom to suspect he is cheating
@@louqmaneelmehdi2289 i would agree w you if his spin rate didn’t go up 300 rpm over the past year. that’s ridiculous results already but even more especially after tommy john
putting shohei in the thumbnail when he definitely doesn’t cheat is low asf
Forreal.
I’m unfollowing bc they doing him dirty like that
Clickbait. Automatic thumbs down.
I think it's supposed to be Shohei shouting in disgust as a rep for us fans. I feel you though as I thought the same thing at first.
And you know he doesn't cheat because?
Jacob deGrom just chillin' dominating the league without cheating like 🧍🏻
I’m gonna feel so bad for you if he got or ever gets caught cheating
@@hj-kp2nq yeah iigh degrom been a beast
You assume he's not cheating, maybe because you're a Mets fan. The fact is that no pitcher is beyond suspicion, especially the ones (like deGrom) who are utterly dominating.
@@terminat1 his spin rates are normal
@@terminat1 check his spin rate. It's actually going down clown.
Why do I have a feeling I'm going to hate the MLB even more than I already do after this season?
(I love baseball btw)
I feel like in the future they're going to make a documentary about the chemists who were making the foreign substances called "Breaking Baseball: The Lab" with a logo similar to Breaking Bad
I'm positive this will happen the instant I read it lol
Breaking Ball
BReaking basebALl?
I guess my Phillies haven't got ahold of this substance yet, lol.
Nor my Marlins!
Not the Braves
😹😹😹
Not my Rangers, we suck but at least we aren’t cheating
True they are definitely not cheating m
It's similar to the problem of sign stealing in football. It lives in a gray area. Not technically illegal, but still seems slimy to most people. The problem with baseball is that with some substances allowed, and others not, it's hard to tell where the line is, particularly with new substances or combinations of substances.
Either say all of it is allowed or none of it is.
This problem doesn’t existvin pro baseball in Japan as their baseballs are manufactured with a uniform takiness so that out of the box they are useable without having to use anything (like rosin) to grip them securely. Therefore, not even use of rosin is allowed, which makes enforcing a no foreign substances rule wholly objective with no gray area.
is it really that gray an area, though? I'm a new fan so I don't know a whole lot, but it seems like the rule is no foreign substances of any kind except the provided rosin bag. that's not hard for me to understand.
I was reading that Baseballs book about how they’re made and historically they’ve changed the kinds of balls used to increase excitement for hitters. If it gets boring again they’re definitely going to crack down
Cheating has always been bad in baseball, but it’s getting worse.
@Dominic Durant totally agree
@Dominic Durant I’m more against steroids than prolly 99 percent of the population and I think the foreign substance is even worse than roids.. either way it’s still not as bad as how the Astros cheated
Bruh roids brought us Barry bonds, these substances are just making baseball hard to watch, I’d rather watch some beefed dude crank a ball almost 600ft than watch a team get no hit nine times already this season
Since when is using semen to increase spin considered cheating??
@@devinrochon718 bonds was already good without the juice, what a braindead take
Bauer has done everything he can to call out the mlb for this. After failing to change anything he starts doing the same as wveryone else and he gets punished for it. If you want to crack down it fine, if you dont also fine just dont punish pitchers after not caring for years
Who cares if he called out the league he’s cheating
This needs to be stopped. Bauer needs to be used as an example for others.
He and others are likely just gaslighting MLB and hitters. There's no reason to think that actual spin rates have drastically increased over the last few years. The equation used to estimate it includes change in trajectory as a variable. Such changes are not exclusive to spin rate. For example, the average seam height of MLB balls increased by ~0.001 inches between 2019 and 2020. Studies have shown that even such a small difference can cause an apparent increase in spin rate of at least 200 rpm or more depending on the pitcher and pitch type despite the increased movement being due to increased drag from the higher seams not increased spin rate.
Foreign substances have always been used (and likely always will) and it makes no sense that such use would cause a major spike when the ingredients for the supposed wonder substance have all been around for quite awhile. You would expect a steady improvement as the cheaters improve their craft. Changes to the balls and other aspects are what would be expected to cause immediate significant results. That, combined with how many pitchers are so obvious about behaving as though they're using a foreign substance reminds me of something Charlie Hough once said (something along the lines of) "convincing your opponent that you're throwing spitballs can be just as effective as actually throwing spitballs." I think a little of that is what's going on just with a different substance being the focus.
It would be easy for the umps to simply check the pitchers for such substances and wouldn't take long at all to analyze all these balls being confiscated. If MLB were really concerned, they'd know by now and punishments would have been dealt. It's more likely that they're still having quality issues with the balls and are confiscating them to compare properties etc. Pitchers just picked up on the opportunity to mess with batters heads by intentionally keeping the controversey going.
See he calls out MLB and they do nothing and this is a profession for people. Why not level the playing field and get paid like the others who are collecting money by using the substances. If he wasn't a high caliber pitcher his words go unheard but when he plays their game they have to pay attention to the issue finally. I hate cheating but what can you do? Not do what 70% of pitchers do and possibly lose your job or up the game so the MLB HAS to stop it all together.
@@Jonas-pd8xk Doing the right thing doesn’t always mean what you’re doing is right.
Respectful request: an update series informing us how the various issues raised have changed.
Enjoying your videos!
I have a question, is this a conspiracy theory channel? I started watching and I learned some stuff but then I started smelling bullshit and I don't know enough to say anything. I've seen many of his videos that sounded a bit outrageous and then when I looked it up on wikipedia nothing was there. If it's not on wikipedia, it's usually not true. I'm kind of joking, but it's true it needs to be fact checked
@@ricky5369 that sounds like a legit request. I couldn’t tell you but it sounds a healthy request you make.
There is a product we used at the local newspaper plant in order to grip the newspaper while inserting advertisements into the paper. I’ve used this while playing baseball and this stuff gives an insane grip to the leather on a baseball, the product is clear and leaves ZERO residue on the ball! If any MLB pitcher or MLB team would like to know the name of said product reply to this and we can talk.
This channel is so goddamn addicting. I could watch an episode on the toilet paper shortage of 2020 and be on the edge of my seat if BDE did it. I stop whatever I'm doing when I see a fresh new episode is out.
Bro I would nut inside of a donut hole and catch it with my other hand just to watch the intros of a video from this guy
@@touchgrassbro9889 idek what to say to this
he's like a less meme orientated and baseball focused internet historian
This channel has the same format as wendover, polymatter, reallifelore, second thought, etc. Except it's about baseball. I love everything about it
There’s more cheating than anyone will ever realize in the MLB
But it's just the aSsTrOs
@@Benjamin-1776- as i always say, you only get punished if you get caught. im not a astros fan, and im pissed about what they did, but i always find it hilarious how naive people are to blame them. do you think your team isnt doing this? do you think your city is innocent? they arent. you guys just didnt get caught.
@@Diego-tz4pb All truth. Erik Katz former MLB catcher has come out saying the Rockies were doing the exact same thing and said he knew another unnamed team(which he strongly indicates is the Dodgers themselves) had a similar setup. But, nobody needs that to know what you pointed out is likely true.
I just know if the Astros didn't beat the teams from the two biggest markets/most popular teams and hadn't pissed off the SJW crowd in the media at the exact same time this would have played out quite differently. But it is what it is and will fade into the background even further than it already has with time.
Outed* by someone who finally decided to grow a conscience 2 years later. Not caught
@@Diego-tz4pb I wish this logic wasn't the minority, man. It's nice to come across people as yourself who aren't acting as if the Astros drowned babies.
Keep up these great videos man! The work put in is amazing!
Well after 1 week of this video being posted up the airwaves and tv have been blown up with news about what's going on with MLB pitching.
It has been said that as of now 63% of the pitchers out there has their spin rate dropped as much as 200rpms. Garett Cole (idiot) debacled himself unable to give a direct statement about pitcher using substance other then to say "I don't know how to answer that..."
And now an astro physicist has come into play and has commented on her analysis of the baseballs from 2017 to 2021, that the baseballs has indeed changed to a degree. Stating the stitching on the cover changed, the windings have loosed and tightened over the past 2 years which contributed to the homeruns in 2019-2020 to a difference to benefit the pitchers in 2021.
So pretty much this video was ahead of the "curve." Great job man, keep up the good work!
Bauer in the "if you cant beat em, join em" hall of fame.
Astros too.
@@carloslugo3666 the Astros just couldn't beat them tho didn't really join em
@@bensteffes9501 Actually the Astros joined them and beaten them, or did you forgot about the MLB's letter to the teams telling them to not talk about sign stealing when Yankees were caught?
@@bensteffes9501 Also Bauer cheated way more, he went from mediocre to Cy Young level, Astros were from competitive team to competitive team.
@@carloslugo3666 but you his credit he did try to bring attention to it, and it was ignored. don’t blame him for doing what everyone else is
Bauer wants this shit out of the game so much he is Lelouching himself.
Jesus christing himself
@@jcrALLday 😂
@@jcrALLday Who?
@@DAFIZZIF LULU
Straight martyr
I still have a ball from the Rogers center that had sticky spots. It was thrown by Wade Davis when he was in Tampa Bay.
This is far more performance enhancing than the Winstrol Roger Clemens took for like 6 scattered months of his late career that his entire reputation was retroactively destroyed for.
The production quality on these videos is criminally underrated
I very much enjoy the stock video of laboratory footage
litterally. i don’t even like baseball but i love these videos
The background music could have more songs
This is one of the best Chanels on CZcams for that reason. More people need to find this guy and his videos
Criminally underrated?
I love that iconic Baseball Doesn't Exist intro music, it does such a good job of building anticipation for the incredible video to follow.
I could be wrong, but pretty sure I've heard it on other youtube channels.. I don't think it belongs to this channel.
That said BBALLBREAKDOWN still has the best intro music!
Me too!! I love that music.
I honestly had no idea pitchers used substances, Thought pine tar was legal for hitters. I feel like I used to watch Alex Rodriguez use it on the bats and he would touch it during his at bat routine. Regardless, what an awesome video. I’ve been doing more research on this and it’s really interesting. Thanks for the breakdown!
Yeah batters use it and they’re well allowed too. I believe it’s because it helps the batter maintain their grip on the bat. Idk if that’s the extent of it but it’s not illegal yet.
There is a related problem, though, that needs to be addressed. Pitchers are casually expected to put so much into their work that it's taken for granted that they will need surgery at some point. That's ridiculous. Having an enhancing substance which isn't a drug means more pitchers are competitive, meaning a team can put less burden on the aces. Plus, less pitches are needed to get through a game.
Obviously, hitting batters in the face is not good. And seeing more hits and runs is more exciting. But I think at the very least, non-drug substances don't have the same moral problem as drugs, because you're not placing an expectation on players to biologically alter their body (which is dangerous). There needs to be some kind of remedy to the injured pitcher problem, even if this isn't it. Maybe special gloves thst give you incredible grip but without impeding your finesse?
Bauer is the hero here. He couldn't "beat em" so he "joined em." And now, the stuff he was trying to bring to the forefront--and was ignored--is now a priority because of his actions and contributions. If it's not enforced, why not use it until they make it illegal??
He's no hero. He could have been had he stuck to calling out the cheating rather than resorting to it himself in order to get paid a few million more dollars. No, I believe the word you're looking for is hypocrite. The kind of guy who runs his mouth about cheating and then cheats himself. All that "everyone does it" bullshit is only ever bandied about when it's convenient for the person making the argument. Observe:
Everyone steals signs, and video technology has only recently gotten good enough to allow for effective real-time sign stealing. MLB implements rules regarding the use of electronics in the stealing of signs. Teams around the league push the boundaries of this new rule to see the limits of what will be punished. The initial more minor infractions by teams like the Red Sox and Yankees go mostly unnoticed. So we push the line further, and the Astros use sign-stealing schemes to the greatest extent and success, subsequently being scapegoated for behaviors similar to ones used all around the league. This is largely due to the sheer brazenness of the overall scheme and the poor poor victimized yankees and dodgers.
So, I'm not really sure why I should be upset that the astros hitters, or any hitters, were trying to gain an unfair advantage against pitchers who, through the use of illegal substances, have artificially increased their spin rates trying to gain an unfair advantage against hitters. You know, the reason why almost no one hits over .300 anymore, and strikeouts are comically inflated, and every other ball in play is a homer. FFS, the pitchers have a built in advantage of the game being 9 fielders (which can be shifted anywhere based on analytics) against 1 hitter, and still 70% of them according to Bauer have been cheating since forever.
Either it's all cheating and should be rooted out immediately, or none of it is. You don't get to have your cake and eat it too. Bauer doesn't get to be a hero for calling out cheating if he cheats himself. Or maybe he does, IDK. Afterall, the "truth" is just whatever delusion a majority of people subscribe to.
It has always been illegal, they just haven’t enforced it.
@@phillipcarter5681 he would be a hypocrite if he was cheating while he was railing against foreign substances. Hero might not be the right word, but antihero is absolutely spot on.
He is baseballs antihero. He did what he could to sound the alarm that people were cheating and when it fell on deaf ears, the message was sent that MLB wasn’t interested in enforcing their own rules.
So Bauer decided to do it better than anyone else and essentially has done a better job shining a light on it this way than he did by tweeting.
He may lack conventional hero characteristics, but he’s certainly no villain or hypocrite.
@@myquest666420 So instead of being a hypocrite he is someone without enough of a backbone to stick to his principles. Why is that better?
@@racebug6134 why would you stick to your principles in this situation and make WAY less money on an extremely uneven playing field? In this hypothetical situation, Bauer could find himself out of the league within a few years if everyone else is using this stuff to get a leg up.
If anything, Bauer is shining an even brighter light on the issue by outperforming the cheaters.
In yesterday’s game Garrett Cole had the lowest spin rate he’s had in like 4 years and he left up 5 runs
The guy who made this vid is an Astros fan who just makes vids about other teams cheating so he can feel better about his team cheating
Interesting
@@billysummers1616 Attack the content of the video not the creator personally. I doubt he believes the Astros pitchers don't partake in this. That's the point of the fucking video. This is leaguewide. If you have the name of an Astros pitcher that added more RPM than Bauer did, I'm all ears.
@@billysummers1616 Garrett Cole doesn't even play for the Astros anymore. Casual
@@billysummers1616 He literally mentioned the Astros using it at the very beginning.
This video is really ironic when your ad is literally encouraging betting on baseball.
Regarding the increase in spin rate for guys throwing no-hitters: It should be pointed out that Carlos Rodon's velocity has increased by 2.5 MPH on average vs. prior seasons. I don't know if that velo increase is sufficient to explain his increased spin rate, but higher velocity pitches also have a higher spin rate so it's possible Rodon's spin rate increase is due to increased velocity instead of cheating.
Spin rate improvements only really become suspicious when velocity is unchanged which is not the case with Rodon whose fastball has gone from 92.5 to 95.5.
You kind of misrepresented the Trevor Bauer story about 1:30 into the video, balls were collected from Bauer and tons of other pitchers all over the league to help mlb study what substances were being used, however this was voluntarily done and none of the players are under investigation. MLB even promised to not hand out punishments until next year after judgements are made. The article Bauer called a gossip blog falsely accused him of being under investigation because the balls were collected, even though it was done voluntarily and not as part of an investigation
Yep called Bauer a cheater in my opinion without proof. Hope Bauer sues
No that’s what he was saying. A reporter said it was just Bauer they took balls from. Then Bauer said “no they’re doing it all over the league”
Thank u for the clarification
@@navig8tor72 no he’s definitely cheating he’s admitted to it, he only started after mlb refused to enforce the rules on his competitors, so he had no other option but to cheat
@@ebowden1168 he didn’t outright admit to it but yes he highly suggested he’s cheated
Unrelated topic: get rid of the runner on second rule after the 9th. What a stupid rule.
Agreed. The rule is so fucking dumb.
I used to like extra innings and now I just wanna stop watching in the 10th
I honestly don’t mind it, especially with the hitting drought, it makes extra innings a bit more exciting. And besides, each team is still given an equal chance to score. I don’t really see a need for the rule, but I don’t mind it either.
@@Chillydall02 they aren’t given an equal chance to score that’s why it’s a dumb fucking rule, and it’s not real baseball
I do not watch baseball, and only have gotten into these videos the last few days after watching a bunch of cool compilation videos on youtube. I really hope Trevor Bauer doesn't become the fall guy for this. If they try to single him out without basically hitting the rest of the league with fines, suspensions, and/or bans. He seems to be one of the most open about using sticky substances without just outright saying what he is using. His recent video shows a fairly sticky ball supposedly just using rosin and sweat. I only say supposedly because he ran his hand through his hair, and hair products might be making things somewhat more sticky.
in any case, thank you for the video. If Trevor has some sort of super tacky, if he ends up banned, fined, or suspended for whatever he is using, he might have a future selling his product to Strongmen for atlas stones as they are always looking for more advantage when doing competitions. In their case, it is legal is competitions, although it might be more regulated as to what acceptable brands or specific compounds are allowed.
what’s sad is mlb new about steroids, they wanted homeruns to increase to put players in the stands they knew all about but pretended not to know of what was going on.
MLB: "no foreign substances!"
MLB Pitchers: *Uses his own spit*
MLB: "Get out of here!"
(some) MLB Pitchers: "I was born here!"
Ozuna is gone and now all of these star pitchers are being ratted out, my fantasy team is going to be in shambles after this lmao 😂
same
The problem is that most pitchers don't even think using a substance is cheating. It's the whole "Why don't you want the pitcher to get a better grip?" mentality.
Blake Trenein's 100+ mph slider is absolutely one of the most insane things ive seen in professional sports. The sticky substance era has made watching pitching fun though.
I’m for Bauer doing what he’s doing. It’s been baseballs worse kept secret. He called it out and mlb didn’t do anything about so he used it.
As an edit. Move the mound back to 62ft 6in have a rosin like bag of pine tar. That will fix a lot of problems. Mlb is seeing that at least 80% of pitchers are using these substances so why not try to regulate it?
Also another banger vid.
Agreed and go tigers
Yes, because 2 wrongs make a right 😒🙄
@@monot00nz batters don't mind pitchers using something as they have way more control so don't get hit as much...it's these new substances that are the issue
Semi unrelated, but you can see just how insane the skill level in the MLB is when Eric Sim, who pitched in the minor leagues still had less RPM on his fast ball using spider tack than Trevor Bauer did during his worst season
Mr Sims probably wasn't fully warmed up or anything and just was giving a demonstration. I say this based on velocity not spin rate - in the video most of his pitches were around 80 mph, and there's no way you could be drafted only throwing 80.
Bauer is still absolutely being used as a scapegoat now. Why is his leave being extended when all charges against him were dropped, and in fact he's suing for slander right now?
Yeah fucking knew it. She lied.
00:27 was not caught. Just took his hat and investigated it.
TB is literally doing this until the mlb does something . He knows the Manfred others don't like TB and since they aren't doing shit about anyone else , he is taking it upon himself to challenge them. TB is good for the game of baseball
They're going to make him the scapegoat, but he's going to laugh all the way to the bank for it.
yeah i like brady too
BDE post gonna be a good day
I like this definition of BDE a lot better tbh
How much do you think the batters approach at the plate has also played into the league average going down? I feel like the foreign substances and the latter have really effected the way the game is currently.
MLB turning their eye on this problem would probably cause some of the MLB star right now to lose their spot in the Cooper's Town later on when they retire.
I knew something was off when I started seeing pitchers throw high curveballs that were unhittable. The new collective bargaining agreement comes up this offseason as well.
Right. Throw a high curve ball on MLB The Show and see what happens. 😆 EXACTLY what's supposed to happen!! It gets hit out of the park.
It’s MLB’s fault they didn’t do anything about it earlier, and pitchers shouldn’t be held accountable when they made it seem like foreign substances were ok to use
some pitchers are going to have to be suspended and fined to make it clear that pitchers cant use them anymore
So then players from the steroid era should be allowed into the Hall of Fame?
@@joemartinez331 Yes, without McGwire and Sosa baseball would be dead right now. Difference is that this spin rate shit is killing the league by making it boring. The jacked batters made it exciting.
Foreign substances have been against the rules the whole time. Problem is umps won't investigate it unless the opposing teams manager calls it out.
Love how Cole’s era is up now. But Astros young pitchers like Luis Garcia’s ERA is the best in the mf league in the past 5 starts. Called Brent Strom. Punks!!
Thanks for the shoutout LFG
Makes me appreciate good hitters able to achieve what they do in this environment & sad for hitters who lost their jobs because they have no way fighting back
Trevor blew the whistle if he gets suspended we ride
He will make thirty eight million this year. He can cry on his big pile of money.
The only thing good about this is that my team hopefully isn’t cheating, or else the Phillies would have a winning record and better bullpen.
My team (Dodgers) is allegedly cheating yet the bullpen sucks so bad they almost blew a 12 run lead against the Angels
Amen brother, amen
10:45 and 12:40 That's what I've been looking for. Once I started hearing more about this topic the last couple weeks, my mind went to this pitch which was part of a game highlights compilation.
You're a batter and you see the point where you commit to the pitch...and then it breaks so hard it basically lands behind you. I went "wtf?" in half laughter and half "I've seen pitches break but not like that". There's another pitch this year thrown by a lefty, looked like a slider. It was to a left handed batter, so naturally it's going to break away. This effing ball literally landed on the other side of the batter's box. I mean, talk about an unnatural break. I believe it even got away from the catcher. His delivery was normal for that situation.
I thought you meant the 'c' that was in the video for some reason.
If we make cheating legal, this wouldn’t be a problem.
You would think 🤔 right?
I wanna see sign stealing and steroids vs Sticky grip and Steroids
Major league chemist
You know what, if it helps the game and brings more action, that's totally fine. As long as it doesn't put health on the line.
But will need to control the substance so all the teams use the same
Ohtani’s best pitch is a splitter which doesn’t use pine tar though.
He really barely throws sliders and curves.
*comparatively to most pitchers*
As an Angels fan, I can confirm whatever substance they were using was highly ineffective. Our pitching sucks!
in absolutely love your videos but i usually listen to this videos while at work and when it just suddenly cuts off at the end it makes me think that im having service problems lol. Could you find a simple outro to do so i can know hey the video ended time to find another.
21:03 “caught red handed” he literally has a red glove on
I feel like it’d be very easy to find out who is using the sticky stuff if MLB collected spin rate data from a suspected pitcher, then one day sent a rep to their team to have that guy throw a bullpen while monitored to make sure they’re not using anything and track the spin rate from those pitches. If they find a few hundred RPM difference from game pitches to this monitored bullpen, then they’re almost definitely cheating
@@pigjubby1 i think all sports are pretty dirty just baseball is more public
@Chandler Russell I think I watched that video and idk how what he said would affect this setup, it doesn’t force people to hide things in game, it just records pitch data and compares it to a controlled, MLB-monitored bullpen where if someone is constantly touching their belt/hat/jock strap/whatever then the observer will notice
@@pigjubby1 Nah, NBA has it beat by a mile. Refs are told to make games close and that certain teams need to win. Read "Personal Foul: A First-Person Account of the Scandal that Rocked the NBA." I would say the NFL is worse as well. I'm sure the NHL is too, but no one really cares about hockey.
Almost is not enough to say somone is guilty
Now, the grip conversation makes sense, baseballs aren’t always fun to try and get some extra spin with, but it gets to a point where that “grip” conversation makes 0 sense if you’re hitting near 3000rpm and don’t have any control over the amount of movement the ball has. Now it’s getting dangerous. But it’s also just downright dumb because grip is basically more spin, but more spin doesn’t give you control, it gives it more movement, and thats an intangible when it comes to player control. Once it’s left your fingertips, you can no longer stop it. And if it becomes a shoddy pitch that ends up slapping someones chin, teeth, cheek, or worse. Are those same idiots going to say “Oh, it was just an unlucky pitch” or are they going to soon realize that there is only so much spin you can control.
so now LA has the stuff, is probably rid of their problem pitcher and bloated contract forever, and got Max Scherzer. LA is the definition of WINNING
I have only seen one minute and 35 seconds so far. but this is probably the best video yet, the editing is done so well!
I know right!
Agreed
I miss your uploads Retro Baseball.
@@ryanthompsonthompson820 One will be coming out soon, I have almost finished it.
@@RetroBaseball I am on vacation after tomorrow. Looking forward to it.
I feel like I'm seeing more errors by the defense in these last few seasons too. I don't know how to check if that is true, but if it is true I wonder if that's possibly correlated to foreign substances being on the ball messing up grips and throws by position players.
i know this channel has 175k subs right now but i still think this channel is WAY underrated
As a Dodgers fan, the league can go ahead and catch us and issue punishment, because despite having this stuff, we still losing, so it doesn't even matter.
Ive never heard substance said so much in 3 minutes
Bauer was the one who called out pitchers...
Trevor should declare himself the "Whisteblower" and demand immunity! Jose Canseco should have done the same thing with the steroids btw.
Reminds me of Barry Bonds in the sense that he saw people cheating which in turn ultimately led him to cheat too.
not only did he called these guys out, he used himself as living proof. when he started using foreign substances and a reporter asked him about his improved spin rate, bauer told the reporter to go read an article about foreign grips and increased spin rates. he basically said, if u wondering how i did it, theres an article that tells you exactly how
So that makes it ok to cheat? Two wrongs make a right, now?
Love your channel 👍🏼