1. Box style swing arm is there in Re Thunderbird here in India 2. The country enforced Euro IV norms way back in April 2017 3. The side stand sensor is offered too. So it is technically and factually wrong to say RE doesn't provide these in India
I think that showroom guy doesn't know much about RE 😂... The parts which he mentioned "this is not available in india" is a faulty statement... All those modifications are available in India mr.karl
I seen people go to india buy it there and then ride it to where the shipment ships are and then go back on plane and ship it back. To be honest I would rather get Japanese bikes if the price isn’t much of a difference
Watch the latest Itchy Boots video and see why her bike that she bought in India can't be registered in her home country. I guess the same would apply here in NZ. If your bike doesn't have the right compliance plates/tags then there's no way you can ride it on our roads legally.
no the reason ,why it's so expensive is that it is completely made in india whereas nz import majority of it's part nd the re india stake has been completely owned by an indian
@@mr.indian899 he's true tho when it comes cars India literally gets the worst of the worst. For an example the base model civic in the UK is a 1.6 L turbo Vtec producing 171hp, the Indian base model has a 15 year old 1.5L single cam engine producing only 131hp.
3:26 karl bhai we do have side stand sensor do try to ride a 2 wheeler in india while keeping the side stand as it is ,you will get to listen from every individual in india that "bhai stand lga hua hai, hta lo" thats why there is no need
What!! I work at Enfield (India) and I can assure you all the bikes manufactured are the same. Rarely some minor adjustments are made to fit the country's requirement - nothing significant. RE's are expensive in western countries due to auto duties, just like Harley and Vulcan bikes in India. Everything pretty much is exported from Chennai.
Then why won't RE give an EU CoC for an indian domestic market bike? Could also be software tuning or lighing etc. The little changes probably aren't representative for the cost, but these bikes aren't sold in EU/USA etc in the quantities that they are sold in india, so maintaining a dealer network, advertisement costs etc is also way more expensive. And of course life is way more expensive here so profit margins have to be higher too.
The changes he pointed out are mostly universal for the Euro5 and BS6 (new Indian emission standard) models. They also include a rear disc brake and ABS. Yes export models have small differences, but that doesn’t account for the significant cost difference overseas. The new 650 Interceptor is the same in every country save for very insignificant differences like turn signal shape or sari guards. It’s $5800 in the US and $3500 in India. The Indian market also has a few more basic domestic models (usually 350cc) that are meant to be very affordable for the home market and aren’t like the more expensive models that are exported as well as sold domestically. BS6 is changing much of that now and I don’t know if those models will still be available by a “grandfather” standard, forced to be updated, or discontinued. Motorcycles have to be affordable in India because of how many are sold every year and the median annual income is about $3200. Import taxes are very high so more and more motorcycle companies are manufacturing in India to save cost for that market and then also export those models. The KTM 390 and BMW 310 are examples. That still doesn’t explain why once in the US and Europe the prices jump significantly. The truth is that because of their low production cost they can mark up the price and still be significantly less expensive than Japanese and European motorcycles. Import taxes are also part of the price increase. That said, I can’t really complain about the price of the new 650 for what you’re getting, especially compared to everything else on the market that is significantly more expensive. The Bullet/Classic 500’s are a bit overpriced but they are getting another significant redesign and that’s why they’re not available currently overseas.
It's just like why harlyey davidson is expensive in India rather than USA.. Why iPhone cheaper in USA not in the UK India.. Its all about economy NZ should reduce excise duty on Royal Enfield bikes of india
It's not like that..there is no modification made in USA model or any other country model of i phone..it's same everywhere..it's just transportation cost and all other things that get included..
Import duties, make everything more expensive except in the country that it was built. The USA is now going to charge them because all the other trading Countries do it to protect their domestic markets. The US gets screwed on these from Countries like China, Korea, Japan, India, and even the EU.
Oh..Come On Dude. He is Plainly & Shamelessly lying. I bought my Thunderbird in 2013 & it has all the feature you are mentioning in 2018. Even the Side stand sensor was there. Whats wrong with you guys. Bikes are expensive because customer at overseas location can pay for it. Royal Enfield just milking the Overseas cows.
I used to work in Royal Enfield factory here in Chennai , India, the export are far more superior to that those are produced for the Indian market. The emission norms are much stricter, the vibrations are way lower in the export model and differences goes on.... And yeah taxes, you pay for what you get.
I think those design differences are very minor compared to the cost difference, companies just price their products different depending on the market and how much they can get away with charging. One notorious example is textbooks, where in a western country like NZ the book would be $100 + , but the Indian edition would be a fraction of the cost. Even digital products where the marginal cost is basically zero (such as video games etc), are charged at widely different prices in different markets.
@@jimmyb4982 Nah! The showroom guy had very little to justify the price difference. There's literally nothing that separates the Indian and abroad variant. For instance, side stand censors, we have those here too. Emission standards.. well, we're directly transitioning to BS 6 from BS 4. which is equivalent to EURO 4. So, the only logical explanation about the soaring prices is the taxes and import duties.
First of all on quality i want to clear 1. They have side stand alarm here in india as well my thunderbird has it 2. They have that metal bar mentioned near chain, here in india too 3. They have refueling lock same in india now on the newer models 4. Plus they have BS4 standards same as Euro4 Cost may be due to duties and transportation
It does not justify 3x times higher prices,it's just to get more money out of western countries higher budgets. The customers in the west will buy those ,and don't complain too much since they are relatively cheap compared to what they already have. It's the same about Dacia car brand.
Oh I am so sorry for your pain. We get all the European and American brand bikes/ cars at 1/3rd price here. Heck they even distribute Harley for free sometimes.
I am on my fourth Royal Enfield. One 1960 Meteor Minor, two 350 Bullets 🇬🇧, and now a classic 500 Pegasus which I’ve owned for three years. I paid £5000 brand-new and on the road for it with a long warranty and bits and pieces. So it costs somebody in India a quarter of that? Good for them! They deserve it. They deserve it for making a great machine, and they deserve it because I am more highly paid than they are. Namaste e shukria! 🤡🇬🇧 PS: the Pegasus is my 22nd two wheeled motorised vehicle, and I also own a 1983 Harley Ironhead, but my favourite is the Enfield. It always works and has never let me down! Thank you Enfield India! 🇮🇳
Very informative, thank you! Having recently bought a battle green Classic 500 in the US, it is interesting to see how the markets differ and require adjustments to the configurations of the bikes. The actual details don't seem to add up to the price differences but if buyers are willing to pay the premium for minimal equipment "upgrades", then that is what will happen. The market will dictate pricing and these bikes fit a lot of needs across the spectrum. It is my "novelty bike", being set up to look like a WWII Army courier bike, and not intending to do any serious long distance riding. The highway speeds here are just too high for it. That's where my BMW R1200RT really shines. Suit the bike to the mission. I do find the RE puts a grin on my face every time I ride it!
We are feeling really proud that Royal Enfield (Indian Byk manufacturing company) have a very good market in foreign country, I have Royal Enfield classic 350. Proud to be an Indian, proud to be a Royal Enfield owner. Thank you sir for making this video.
@@jeevanrohtak4185 ohh fuck u say Chennai people r racist have u ever been here in Chennai we don't keep friendship by seeing status and their religion bro u North Indians goose bags do those shit stupid people's have no knowledge
Its just same as iPhone and Harley Davidson is cheaper in USA compare to India ,, which is called as Tariff war, Trade war, Custom duty to save local brands.
Is that guy even working for Royal Enfield? It's all the same in India... Only thing different is battle green is not there in India as that Colour is used by Indian army...the new swing arm ur saying... I have this on my bike from past 4 years in India... Also had the side stand warning 4 years earlier in India.. Don just think u guys have superior things... We get the same thing....This sales representative does not have any knowledge... The main reason for more cost is the export duty as this is shipped from India and the tyres r not Pirelli or Michellins...Siddharth are you even listening? This guy s talking rubbish
I am Italian, I have had many motorbikes of many types I have ridden an R.E. bullet from delhi to himalaya and kashmir for 10 whole days, 16 hours a day on ... very reliable bike, easy to repair and with components that have resisted days and days of holes, water, earth, dust ... they have me amazed, even their original tires (old ones) have a sturdiness higher than those of our standards.
I have a BS4 compliant Classic 500 and it has the side stand sensor. And the REs coming out now has ABS and a few other changes and there is not a huge hike in prices. Definitely no three-fold increase. I think the biggest reason for the increased price must be import taxes and other such charges.
Few different things made it costly? Like seriously? Swing arm and foot pegs And also a better grade of metals used. Tax ki mara maari hai isse jyada toh
My dad had a RE 1959 model. It was always having issues, me and my dad worked cleaning carburetor, spark plugs, battery issues, i even replaced piston rings, chain adjustment...oh boy you name it, there will be some issue. But yet, he loved that bike. He sold it couple of months back before he passed away in 2018. Not sure the new redesigned RE fixed those issues.
The guy is not entirely correct, I bet. Here we have bs4 standard which is equivalent to euro4. From 1.4.2020 we will have bs6 in force, equivalent to euro6. I am sure 3 factors are contributing to this huge difference in price. 1. Import duty by the local govt. 2. Slight improvement in quality in line with local norms like lower sound level 3. Greed of the company makes them to believe that they can sell the product at that insane price.
BS-IV (equivalent of Euro 4) emission norms have been mandatory in India since 2017. I guess the price tag would have much more to do with the taxes on both sides, than the actual mods necessary on vehicle for regulatory compliance.
Our country has a huge population so it won't be possible to have the same per capita income. Then again MNCs wouldn't have flocked to India had it not been our huge population. There must be proper utilisation of this population. So many people remain unemployed and that's a wastage of human resource.
@@jeevanrohtak4185 , lol no. I'm working in automobile field and did my thesis in emission norms. BS IV is Euro 4. India skipped Euro 5 norms. They are directly going to implement BS VI norms which is Euro VI norm.
Love your passion for old school motorcycles, Karl - I ride an XJR, but under different circumstances would have been riding an army coloured Bullet 500 👍🏽
Man, I agree with shipping costs and documentation costs that you have to pay overseas. Not sure about superior paint quality abroad. But others points mentioned in the video are pointless except the military green colour. The swing arms, foot pegs, silencer etc. are same here as well.
Even Maruti Suzuki India sells third class unsafe cars to Indian market in India. Abroad they sell better, stronger vehicles which are more safe. Royal Enfield sells third class bikes with substandard quality only here in India. Outside.. the quality of the bikes are far better than what is sold in India. Nobody asks. Hence all this.
Super Boy it's a way to keep prices down. Normally the cars with same features as Indian sells for 4-5 times higher cost than what it does in India. The cost cutting is done in safety features as people don't really care, until now that is.
Correction: euro4 is active in India for years now! Absolutely mandatory since March last years. I don't think there is any difference in materials used, surely the quality check must be tighter .
In India these bikes are now also required to have tht "catalytic converter" and now if u change the silencer you have to pay hefty price and that is in India But indians being indian we dont care bout these rules
Nice video mate. It was a very informative video. Not only it gave us info about the Indian Bike overseas but also gave us some info about certain regulations in NZ 👍🏽
In my home town. Royal Enfield failed to support the Dealer with needed replacement parts. And they failed to advertis , most people didn't know Royal Enfield was in production much less available for sale. I needed a new speedo drive gear , it had split on the bottom side from the end plug back. The new part was also split in the same location. We looked at all the new bikes in the store several also had broken drive gear housing. It required several attempts to get a good one. After a couple years of frustration the Dealer sent everything he had back to Royal Enfield's distribution center. So now I have a bike with no dealer support. I have owned and repaired motorcycles since 1964 and worked in a motorcycle dealer ship. So it is not a big problem for me. Most people didn't know Royal Enfield was in production much less available for sale. No advertising.
In Norway the warranty is 5 years for any vehicle you buy. Even used from a dealer. Vehicles bought from a private person you get 2 years warranty against defects.
The differences that you mentioned, at the manufacturers level, might add a $50 or $60 dollars to the cost but certainly wouldn’t result in an end product that costs two or three times as much. For instance once you’ve established a production line on a square tube swing arm compared to a round one, the difference is literally pennies if anything at all. Same thing with a different gas cap or even better quality paint. I suspect the price difference has more to do with import tariffs and most importantly, the price of the competition. There’s even a good price difference between a US bike and a Canadian bike, more so than just the duty and exchange would warrant. They are both export market machines so should have the same quality enhancements
What you pay is what you get. simple. People in India need to pay more to get that extra safety and better quality. In low price you can't buy everything. Good going RE. Although i still love my 1977 models they are made like a tank, any-day they beat new bullets
the RE retail price difference do not come from different specs. The importers adjust the prices to the current market value to maximize profit. In India, the METEOR and INTERCEPTOR are about 2000 € each. In Europe, the METEOR costs 4000 € retail and the Interceptor costs 7000 €. The Interceptor would be fair priced at 4500 € but the customers are ready to pay more for it. That easy.
Being here, If anybody thinks they are different overseas, no they are all the same 1) Rear tubular swingarm is now box type in India too. 2) Fuel Cap is keyless over there which is way cheap. 3) Footpegs here come with RE Brand means more attention to detail. 4) Engine regulations are met all over the world (BS6 directly coming into place instead of BS5)
I m from NZ and have visited this place after seeing the prices of all the models of RE I have ordered mine from India far more cheaper fitted with all the accessories fitted. It will take around 3 months but the wait is ok than pay thrice the price. Karl is ripp off
You're telling me a cheap steel swing arm, a slightly different exhaust and a few generic sensors cost 2 times the price of the standard bike?.... I think RE would sell a lot more if they even came down to only twice the Indian price. But i guess they enjoy a niche market so they don't have to exhaust themselves with large overseas export when they have a huge local market already. Still it's a pitty....
Only reason is the export and everything else he has said is garbage. About the paint job, fuel cap, exhaust sound ( it's exactly the same without the after market one's here in India) they should not cost you three times!
Yes, it sounded like a well rehearsed political answer to an indisputable question. Square swing arm instead of round, a non-rattley filler cap, different pegs and muffler do not denote 300% mark up. 50% max + taxes. The true answer is Because They Can.
The CEO did said in an interview that he set that price as they aim at a niche market where customers buy it for nostalgia and kind of low price devalue the brand. India is a price sensitive market its not possible to price in india like that with the current prices also there are a lot complaining about its being not VFM and competitor like bajaj offering better quality product like domianar for a lot less
@@borderlands6606 For now, while it is still novelty. Once the buyers realise the issues and lack of sales support, and word spread out, they will run like the plague. At least that's what US customers have done.
I've met the NZ distributor at his home so if you know him tell him old 'build' says G'day and thanks everything worked out well. He is a top bloke, I trusted him and he did not let me down. [BTW, you didn't mention duty.]
None of those things account for a ×3 price differential. The real reason is that's what the manufacturer thinks the market will bear. Just don't pay it.
haan bhai... ye gore apan ko neecha dikhane mein lge rhte h... aur apne hi log insult hone ke baad bhi proud feel krte h aur comment krte h "i am an indian and i support u... we are idiots"
euro 5 here in paris .. costs about 4.5 to 5 lacs in Paris like so much more than in India... but man o. man do people turn around to look at this in Paris ... absolute beaut
Biggest reason the RE is more inexpensive is because of import duty and big modification in the engines for regulations.. foot rest and support bars are similar grade. 🙂 FUN FACT: You can bring the bike from India to anywhere, the reason is not possible for the newer models you need COC document which RE denies to provide from India. So they can sell the International models.
Now see how the Royal Enfield 650 Twins are selling and hear my special message to RE's CEO czcams.com/video/A-b5VZCRvXM/video.html.
1. Box style swing arm is there in Re Thunderbird here in India
2. The country enforced Euro IV norms way back in April 2017
3. The side stand sensor is offered too.
So it is technically and factually wrong to say RE doesn't provide these in India
Do u get ABS there??
I think that showroom guy doesn't know much about RE 😂... The parts which he mentioned "this is not available in india" is a faulty statement... All those modifications are available in India mr.karl
Ram Ram brother love from india
the reason told in video still doesnt come close to clarify why it cost 3 times more in new zealand than india. please research more on it.
You should also ask why BMW AND MERCEDES-BENZ are three times more expensive in India lol
JENEE SWIFT Taxes
😂👍🏻
we have jaguar, land rover and many more luxury brands in india
Our govt loves taxes from its citizens so they(leaders) can leave a lavish life..
you know SWIFT is very cheap car in India
Best time I ever had in India when ride a royal Enfield, dream come true.
And I dream of an Hindustan Ambassador
⭕ Try LUNA next time ⭕
@@susheelbunty lol LuNA ....that's my papa bike it's cool to ride
@@princejohn1358 ⭕ 😲🙏😲🙏😲 ⭕
@@susheelbunty lol now my dad bought Royal Enfield 500 I'm in college now 12th class it was back then 😂✌️
All those tiny differences don't justify the price being 3x more (exhaust, fuel cap,swing arm). Maybe taxes are the answer !!!
Yeah Custom Duty is heavy
I seen people go to india buy it there and then ride it to where the shipment ships are and then go back on plane and ship it back. To be honest I would rather get Japanese bikes if the price isn’t much of a difference
Watch the latest Itchy Boots video and see why her bike that she bought in India can't be registered in her home country. I guess the same would apply here in NZ. If your bike doesn't have the right compliance plates/tags then there's no way you can ride it on our roads legally.
Pedro Santos Maybe greed is involved? Hope not though.
no the reason ,why it's so expensive is that it is completely made in india whereas nz import majority of it's part nd the re india stake has been completely owned by an indian
Trust me, Any RE dealer in India won't have atleast 10% of his knowledge. All they ask is "can we book it today?"
May be u live in chor bazar.
This is not even 10% truth.
@njz updates nice one hahahahahahahahaha
For real
Well said total reality
So the blue shirt guy is saying the iPhones in India are more expensive than US because the parts in the phones used in India are higher grade ?🤔
thak u bro its true
Nailed it!
😂😂😂🤫🤫
Karl is shit
He always put indian down
N we do have sensors n melitary colours
@@mr.indian899 he's true tho when it comes cars India literally gets the worst of the worst. For an example the base model civic in the UK is a 1.6 L turbo Vtec producing 171hp, the Indian base model has a 15 year old 1.5L single cam engine producing only 131hp.
Are u father of pewdiepie?
Break Free I was looking for this comment
I though the same. He looks like him
😂😂 bc
I guess brother
@Accidental Being most satisfying reply so far
We have BS-4 ... Equivalent of Euro 4 there ... And yet it won't cost thrice as much .... We are also moving to BS-6 directly by 2022 ..
Yeah bs6 like euro 6 which is already available on new model jawa
bs 6 will be launched by april 2020
BS4 will be discontinued by 2020 april. Govt will introduce BS6
BS6 cars have already started selling , like the new Tata Harrier is bs6
Not 2022 but april 2020. Euro 4 vehicle won't be registered after 31march 2020.
3:26 karl bhai we do have side stand sensor
do try to ride a 2 wheeler in india while keeping the side stand as it is ,you will get to listen from every individual in india that "bhai stand lga hua hai, hta lo"
thats why there is no need
Haha this is true! You can actually see it happen in my landslide video
trueeeee
😂😂😂
ahahahahaha so true
This comment made me happy...hahaha...have done it a lot and I still do.
Dude your pronunciation of Hindi is so close to indian. I’m loving it. Raam Raam from Toronto 🙏
Where u from??
@@kaustubhkashyap9750 Toronto, Canada
Ram ram 🙏
Ram Ram 🙏
Har Har Mahadev
What!! I work at Enfield (India) and I can assure you all the bikes manufactured are the same. Rarely some minor adjustments are made to fit the country's requirement - nothing significant.
RE's are expensive in western countries due to auto duties, just like Harley and Vulcan bikes in India.
Everything pretty much is exported from Chennai.
Then why won't RE give an EU CoC for an indian domestic market bike?
Could also be software tuning or lighing etc.
The little changes probably aren't representative for the cost, but these bikes aren't sold in EU/USA etc in the quantities that they are sold in india, so maintaining a dealer network, advertisement costs etc is also way more expensive. And of course life is way more expensive here so profit margins have to be higher too.
Which plant? And which department?
राम- राम सुनकर मज़ा आ गया, यहां साला लाख लड़ो-मरो पर किसी विदेशी धरती पर भारत की ज़रा बात सुकून देती है,... राम-राम सबको🙏🙏🙏💐💐💐💐
सही कहा भाई दिल को सुकून आया राम राम सुन के
Ram ram 🙏
Ram Ram🙏
Ekk dum bhai..
राम राम 🙏
Dukandar: Karl bhai royal enfield lelo, maja avega.
Karl: nahi chahiye ji
Did you know Karl has done the Delhi - Manali - Leh - Srinagar - Delhi circuit on a Royal Enfield? 😉
That moment though 😆
@@HairyMalik I'm gonna do the same one day
''ram ram Chris"
OMG, I lost it
Last thing you expected 🤣
00:02
"Karl rock
Scammer of scammers"
I just noticed it..😂😂
The changes he pointed out are mostly universal for the Euro5 and BS6 (new Indian emission standard) models. They also include a rear disc brake and ABS. Yes export models have small differences, but that doesn’t account for the significant cost difference overseas. The new 650 Interceptor is the same in every country save for very insignificant differences like turn signal shape or sari guards. It’s $5800 in the US and $3500 in India. The Indian market also has a few more basic domestic models (usually 350cc) that are meant to be very affordable for the home market and aren’t like the more expensive models that are exported as well as sold domestically. BS6 is changing much of that now and I don’t know if those models will still be available by a “grandfather” standard, forced to be updated, or discontinued. Motorcycles have to be affordable in India because of how many are sold every year and the median annual income is about $3200. Import taxes are very high so more and more motorcycle companies are manufacturing in India to save cost for that market and then also export those models. The KTM 390 and BMW 310 are examples. That still doesn’t explain why once in the US and Europe the prices jump significantly. The truth is that because of their low production cost they can mark up the price and still be significantly less expensive than Japanese and European motorcycles. Import taxes are also part of the price increase. That said, I can’t really complain about the price of the new 650 for what you’re getting, especially compared to everything else on the market that is significantly more expensive. The Bullet/Classic 500’s are a bit overpriced but they are getting another significant redesign and that’s why they’re not available currently overseas.
India all most use 350cc bike use. Special people used 500cc
It's just like why harlyey davidson is expensive in India rather than USA..
Why iPhone cheaper in USA not in the UK India..
Its all about economy
NZ should reduce excise duty on Royal Enfield bikes of india
Why should they ? It is a dianasour
Iphone agar USA jitne saste kr de to USA se jyada india main bikenge
It's not like that..there is no modification made in USA model or any other country model of i phone..it's same everywhere..it's just transportation cost and all other things that get included..
Import duties, make everything more expensive except in the country that it was built. The USA is now going to charge them because all the other trading Countries do it to protect their domestic markets. The US gets screwed on these from Countries like China, Korea, Japan, India, and even the EU.
New Zealand also has 15% GST added on. (GOODS AND SERVICE TAX)
India has BS 4 which is equivalent to EU 4
It's equalent to eu5 not Euro 4 norms
@@rohanrayakar2257 first read about the current BS norms and then make a comparison .
We have euro standard. Its just we don't care about them, for now.
You mean to say each and every car or bike made is India is tested by government to see if it really pass emissions bad joke
ha bhai isiliye to car and bike ta smoke tesr karwate hai log,barna kahi pakde gaye to fine lagega.
Wah...what a starting of video..ram ram karl..
ram ram ji 🙏
Ram ram ..
Oh..Come On Dude. He is Plainly & Shamelessly lying. I bought my Thunderbird in 2013 & it has all the feature you are mentioning in 2018. Even the Side stand sensor was there. Whats wrong with you guys. Bikes are expensive because customer at overseas location can pay for it. Royal Enfield just milking the Overseas cows.
Also taxes
There are heavy taxes for overseas Motorcycles and also it's bad to price the bike cheap
I was looking for the comment of the guy who get's it, here it is)
@@ragas93 The import tax to the UK is something ridiculous like 100%.
I used to work in Royal Enfield factory here in Chennai , India, the export are far more superior to that those are produced for the Indian market. The emission norms are much stricter, the vibrations are way lower in the export model and differences goes on.... And yeah taxes, you pay for what you get.
Ram ram was so good to hear😍💯🙏❤️ jai hind
I think those design differences are very minor compared to the cost difference, companies just price their products different depending on the market and how much they can get away with charging. One notorious example is textbooks, where in a western country like NZ the book would be $100 + , but the Indian edition would be a fraction of the cost. Even digital products where the marginal cost is basically zero (such as video games etc), are charged at widely different prices in different markets.
I remember reading somewhere that the price is not what it costs to make something, it's what the market is willing to pay.
Ya but they can't tell this openly so they have to make up some reason😂😂
Loved the turban speedlimit 😁. Beautiful bikes!
Three times the price for a fuel cap...
I'm pretty sure we're just paying the foreigner tax.
Selective hearing? It's more than a fuel cap, you idiot.
@@jimmyb4982 Nah! The showroom guy had very little to justify the price difference. There's literally nothing that separates the Indian and abroad variant. For instance, side stand censors, we have those here too. Emission standards.. well, we're directly transitioning to BS 6 from BS 4. which is equivalent to EURO 4. So, the only logical explanation about the soaring prices is the taxes and import duties.
@@AbhinavKashyap_YT Indian market is big so you can cut some profit.
Yeah we get Harley at almost 3 times of original price for... Well, nothing more actually. Beat the foreigner.
All the differences mentioned do not add up to 3x the price. ;)
Yep it doesn't, but I'll buy it for the experience.
It does coupled with high labor cost and tax.
First of all on quality i want to clear
1. They have side stand alarm here in india as well my thunderbird has it
2. They have that metal bar mentioned near chain, here in india too
3. They have refueling lock same in india now on the newer models
4. Plus they have BS4 standards same as Euro4
Cost may be due to duties and transportation
It does not justify 3x times higher prices,it's just to get more money out of western countries higher budgets.
The customers in the west will buy those ,and don't complain too much since they are relatively cheap compared to what they already have.
It's the same about Dacia car brand.
Oh I am so sorry for your pain. We get all the European and American brand bikes/ cars at 1/3rd price here. Heck they even distribute Harley for free sometimes.
@@raghavshikhar
Good luck with that 1/3rd of the price cut you get there, because also your wages are about 1/10th of a decent European country.
@@nikos-giorgos They wish 1/10th
I am on my fourth Royal Enfield. One 1960 Meteor Minor, two 350 Bullets 🇬🇧, and now a classic 500 Pegasus which I’ve owned for three years. I paid £5000 brand-new and on the road for it with a long warranty and bits and pieces. So it costs somebody in India a quarter of that? Good for them! They deserve it. They deserve it for making a great machine, and they deserve it because I am more highly paid than they are. Namaste e shukria! 🤡🇬🇧 PS: the Pegasus is my 22nd two wheeled motorised vehicle, and I also own a 1983 Harley Ironhead, but my favourite is the Enfield. It always works and has never let me down! Thank you Enfield India! 🇮🇳
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And another reason for the "difference" in price is the bla bla bla........ no mention of taxes & the middle men in the market....
Very informative, thank you! Having recently bought a battle green Classic 500 in the US, it is interesting to see how the markets differ and require adjustments to the configurations of the bikes. The actual details don't seem to add up to the price differences but if buyers are willing to pay the premium for minimal equipment "upgrades", then that is what will happen. The market will dictate pricing and these bikes fit a lot of needs across the spectrum. It is my "novelty bike", being set up to look like a WWII Army courier bike, and not intending to do any serious long distance riding. The highway speeds here are just too high for it. That's where my BMW R1200RT really shines. Suit the bike to the mission. I do find the RE puts a grin on my face every time I ride it!
Opening dialogue Ram Ram Chris won my heart..
We are feeling really proud that Royal Enfield (Indian Byk manufacturing company) have a very good market in foreign country, I have Royal Enfield classic 350.
Proud to be an Indian, proud to be a Royal Enfield owner.
Thank you sir for making this video.
Manufactured in Chennai,India.You should visit their plant in Chennai and do a video on that.
The have a test track too.
No , Chennai is racist.
No mutton transporting Muslim man to lynch for you today in Rohtak,Haryana?
@@jeevanrohtak4185 ohh fuck u say Chennai people r racist have u ever been here in Chennai we don't keep friendship by seeing status and their religion bro u North Indians goose bags do those shit stupid people's have no knowledge
Yeah now you can watch their employees strike too 😂😂
Its just same as iPhone and Harley Davidson is cheaper in USA compare to India ,, which is called as Tariff war, Trade war, Custom duty to save local brands.
Don't misguide about emission norms. We have BS-IV its equal to E-IV
This is my father's favourite bike
varsha sinha same... it was his dream bike in his childhood...
me and your father has the same taste
call me daddy and ride with me and i buy you a teddy
@@facts-ns7zt 😐😑
varsha sinha I can be your son for my entire life
+90 days why???
Is that guy even working for Royal Enfield? It's all the same in India... Only thing different is battle green is not there in India as that Colour is used by Indian army...the new swing arm ur saying... I have this on my bike from past 4 years in India... Also had the side stand warning 4 years earlier in India.. Don just think u guys have superior things... We get the same thing....This sales representative does not have any knowledge... The main reason for more cost is the export duty as this is shipped from India and the tyres r not Pirelli or Michellins...Siddharth are you even listening? This guy s talking rubbish
The alloy quality used is different for export models. Even their manufacturing plant is different for export models
seriously?? hard to tell if you ask me
Ram ram bhai ..ke hal chal hai
Majama
@@revitrishi9538 😁😂😂😂
In Udaipur rajasthan
Ram ram saa #Hello
ram ram bhaiya 🙏
सस्ते tu youtube pe bhi -?
I am Italian, I have had many motorbikes of many types I have ridden an R.E. bullet from delhi to himalaya and kashmir for 10 whole days, 16 hours a day on ... very reliable bike, easy to repair and with components that have resisted days and days of holes, water, earth, dust ... they have me amazed, even their original tires (old ones) have a sturdiness higher than those of our standards.
piwdiepie says ram ram ki halchal 😂🙏👍 I love ur unbiased scam contents on my country ..love from India ... thx for making it a good place 👍👍
Omg i was going to say the same 😂😂
He is just look like him but he is not like him. He is a person with good heart.
@@susantsahoo5465 ikr
@@susantsahoo5465 just a joke . Dont take it personally😂🙏
@@susantsahoo5465 pewds is good guy.
Love from KERALA 😗😘😘😘😍
I have a BS4 compliant Classic 500 and it has the side stand sensor. And the REs coming out now has ABS and a few other changes and there is not a huge hike in prices. Definitely no three-fold increase. I think the biggest reason for the increased price must be import taxes and other such charges.
Few different things made it costly?
Like seriously?
Swing arm and foot pegs
And also a better grade of metals used.
Tax ki mara maari hai isse jyada toh
go to a country where everything's more expensive and that's what you get
Newzealand have very huge tax rates.. hence better roads.
engine is different
I have the same swingarm on my 2014 thunderbird 😂
Import duties, just say it! Taxes!!!!
My dad had a RE 1959 model. It was always having issues, me and my dad worked cleaning carburetor, spark plugs, battery issues, i even replaced piston rings, chain adjustment...oh boy you name it, there will be some issue. But yet, he loved that bike. He sold it couple of months back before he passed away in 2018.
Not sure the new redesigned RE fixed those issues.
The engines are now completely redesigned and fuel injected. Even in the four years since this video, RE's reputation has kept getting better.
The guy is not entirely correct, I bet. Here we have bs4 standard which is equivalent to euro4. From 1.4.2020 we will have bs6 in force, equivalent to euro6. I am sure 3 factors are contributing to this huge difference in price. 1. Import duty by the local govt. 2. Slight improvement in quality in line with local norms like lower sound level 3. Greed of the company makes them to believe that they can sell the product at that insane price.
Santanu Rakshit you hit the nail on its head , what a joke 3 times the price 🙄
BS-IV (equivalent of Euro 4) emission norms have been mandatory in India since 2017. I guess the price tag would have much more to do with the taxes on both sides, than the actual mods necessary on vehicle for regulatory compliance.
Its cost higher because of imports and exports taxes and also of carrying charges.
Karl rock I love ur channel because you describe India's beauty or real india 😘😘🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
Because per capita income of countries like yours are 30 times or more higher than that of India
Our country has a huge population so it won't be possible to have the same per capita income. Then again MNCs wouldn't have flocked to India had it not been our huge population.
There must be proper utilisation of this population.
So many people remain unemployed and that's a wastage of human resource.
Another CZcamsr who moved to India has a Royal Enfield...nice bikes...good video
india has upgarded its emission standards to BS-1V which similar to euro 4
NO , BS-4 is Euro 3
Jeevan Rohtak no. BS4 is Euro 4
No Abhin you are mistaken . Euro 5 will be Bs-6 which will happen after 2020. Bs-4 is EURo3
@@jeevanrohtak4185 , lol no. I'm working in automobile field and did my thesis in emission norms. BS IV is Euro 4. India skipped Euro 5 norms. They are directly going to implement BS VI norms which is Euro VI norm.
Love your passion for old school motorcycles, Karl - I ride an XJR, but under different circumstances would have been riding an army coloured Bullet 500 👍🏽
Euro 4 and now in india BS6 is implemented by gov of india so price is increased second one is taxation.
Man, I agree with shipping costs and documentation costs that you have to pay overseas. Not sure about superior paint quality abroad. But others points mentioned in the video are pointless except the military green colour. The swing arms, foot pegs, silencer etc. are same here as well.
Try the Royal Enfield interceptor 650 you'll get addicted to that one ! 🖤
Even Maruti Suzuki India sells third class unsafe cars to Indian market in India. Abroad they sell better, stronger vehicles which are more safe.
Royal Enfield sells third class bikes with substandard quality only here in India. Outside.. the quality of the bikes are far better than what is sold in India. Nobody asks. Hence all this.
Super Boy it's a way to keep prices down. Normally the cars with same features as Indian sells for 4-5 times higher cost than what it does in India. The cost cutting is done in safety features as people don't really care, until now that is.
Same with TATA and Mahindra, even a 1998 Tata Safari in Europe looks better built than a 2018 Indian one
@@utkarshadhikari5525 nope
Literally same models are cheaper in USA compared to India
@@ohok6 no Tata always gives us quality
Correction: euro4 is active in India for years now! Absolutely mandatory since March last years.
I don't think there is any difference in materials used, surely the quality check must be tighter .
In India these bikes are now also required to have tht "catalytic converter" and now if u change the silencer you have to pay hefty price and that is in India
But indians being indian we dont care bout these rules
I subscribed the channel the moment I heard "0:16 Ram Ram Chris k hal chal"😁😁 ✌✌
Nice video mate. It was a very informative video. Not only it gave us info about the Indian Bike overseas but also gave us some info about certain regulations in NZ 👍🏽
I can't wait for the new 650 twin engine bikes🖤🖤
Me too. I have a video about them on Saturday
@@KarlRock I love them too.
@@KarlRock cool! Can't wait.
Too much expensive
It's twin cylinder, not twin engine dumbass
Lots of love for you and for this channel.
-From India
Ram Ram sir...love frm india😚
Thank u sir for ur reply..make some more video sir.Ram Ram😚😚
In my home town. Royal Enfield failed to support the Dealer with needed replacement parts. And they failed to advertis , most people didn't know Royal Enfield was in production much less available for sale. I needed a new speedo drive gear , it had split on the bottom side from the end plug back. The new part was also split in the same location. We looked at all the new bikes in the store several also had broken drive gear housing. It required several attempts to get a good one.
After a couple years of frustration the Dealer sent everything he had back to Royal Enfield's distribution center. So now I have a bike with no dealer support. I have owned and repaired motorcycles since 1964 and worked in a motorcycle dealer ship. So it is not a big problem for me. Most people didn't know Royal Enfield was in production much less available for sale. No advertising.
Bs 4 is equivalent to euro 4... So that is just Bullshit... We are moving to bs6 soon in 2022. Fuel cap and swing arm are not the reason for the cost.
I am proud to be a Indian.Jai hind Jai Bharat.
Dude he's just making up stories. It's all the same quality.
Steven paul that’s what I was thinking.
Yeah, the extra money is for the extra bullshit
Tax is the answer 😏
Import duties
No quality
Have you guys notice that their voices raised after they
stop the RE engine
In Norway the warranty is 5 years for any vehicle you buy. Even used from a dealer. Vehicles bought from a private person you get 2 years warranty against defects.
The differences that you mentioned, at the manufacturers level, might add a $50 or $60 dollars to the cost but certainly wouldn’t result in an end product that costs two or three times as much. For instance once you’ve established a production line on a square tube swing arm compared to a round one, the difference is literally pennies if anything at all. Same thing with a different gas cap or even better quality paint. I suspect the price difference has more to do with import tariffs and most importantly, the price of the competition. There’s even a good price difference between a US bike and a Canadian bike, more so than just the duty and exchange would warrant. They are both export market machines so should have the same quality enhancements
Being a RE rider from India . Every changes he mentioned in the bike just down grades the bike. It dosent make any sence 🤔
Exactly
ram ram?? 🤗 feels great to heard ram ram from a foreigner..
Ram ram chrish ,😍😍 Sentence of INDIA ......Ty brother
And the 100% import duty to the U.K. from India for new motorcycles before VAT is added. It makes a cheap motorcycle expensive 😢
When you said RAM RAM, I got the vibe of my hometown.
2:21 we have BS-4 Mate...that's hardly any different....
Plz come to Dehradun ❣️ Uttarakhand
R.M.K Vlogs vai ya abhi newzealand me hai
Ok thanks
Bhai I'm also from doon
@@rajnishsinghdeo8410 oh nice subscribe to my channel for Dehradun videos /vlogs
@@experimentrabba3314 too far away
You are a good person Ram Ram from India
What you pay is what you get. simple. People in India need to pay more to get that extra safety and better quality. In low price you can't buy everything. Good going RE. Although i still love my 1977 models they are made like a tank, any-day they beat new bullets
the RE retail price difference do not come from different specs. The importers adjust the prices to the current market value to maximize profit. In India, the METEOR and INTERCEPTOR are about 2000 € each. In Europe, the METEOR costs 4000 € retail and the Interceptor costs 7000 €. The Interceptor would be fair priced at 4500 € but the customers are ready to pay more for it. That easy.
When I'm thinking about a Royal Enfield I'm thinking rifle not a motorcycle.
Lee-Enfield
Built like a gun... goes like a bullet!
Awsome video and ram ram ji
They call them "Royal " Karl. I think that's why! Smiles.
mayank kumar not at all for me, I love India and would like to see this beautiful country once in my life
mayank kumar fuck u ..don't have manners to talk ladies..
Marie-Elisabeth Lombaerts yaaa only for royal people..😊
Welcome to India Madam...!
Please ignore that idiot. Sorry
Being here, If anybody thinks they are different overseas, no they are all the same
1) Rear tubular swingarm is now box type in India too.
2) Fuel Cap is keyless over there which is way cheap.
3) Footpegs here come with RE Brand means more attention to detail.
4) Engine regulations are met all over the world (BS6 directly coming into place instead of BS5)
I m from NZ and have visited this place after seeing the prices of all the models of RE I have ordered mine from India far more cheaper fitted with all the accessories fitted. It will take around 3 months but the wait is ok than pay thrice the price. Karl is ripp off
Karl Rock : ram ram
The store owner : ram ram
Me : what the 😂😂😂❤️❤️❤️
Love when yoy say ram ram....nuce video bro
Ram ram !! That intro yeah 😀
liberandus- karl is rss secret agent
You're telling me a cheap steel swing arm, a slightly different exhaust and a few generic sensors cost 2 times the price of the standard bike?.... I think RE would sell a lot more if they even came down to only twice the Indian price. But i guess they enjoy a niche market so they don't have to exhaust themselves with large overseas export when they have a huge local market already. Still it's a pitty....
I AM FROM INDIA,PUNJAB🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
I got my 650 chrome interceptor 🤘🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Only reason is the export and everything else he has said is garbage. About the paint job, fuel cap, exhaust sound ( it's exactly the same without the after market one's here in India) they should not cost you three times!
Yes, it sounded like a well rehearsed political answer to an indisputable question. Square swing arm instead of round, a non-rattley filler cap, different pegs and muffler do not denote 300% mark up. 50% max + taxes. The true answer is Because They Can.
The CEO did said in an interview that he set that price as they aim at a niche market where customers buy it for nostalgia and kind of low price devalue the brand. India is a price sensitive market its not possible to price in india like that with the current prices also there are a lot complaining about its being not VFM and competitor like bajaj offering better quality product like domianar for a lot less
@@borderlands6606 For now, while it is still novelty. Once the buyers realise the issues and lack of sales support, and word spread out, they will run like the plague. At least that's what US customers have done.
We get all gadgets and machines Very expensive than elsewhere
So this is just twisted
I've met the NZ distributor at his home so if you know him tell him old 'build' says G'day and thanks everything worked out well. He is a top bloke, I trusted him and he did not let me down. [BTW, you didn't mention duty.]
None of those things account for a ×3 price differential. The real reason is that's what the manufacturer thinks the market will bear. Just don't pay it.
Ram...Ram sir
Fuel Injection too guys!!!
You missed out
I got Royal Enfield here in Indian.....got same new swing arm arm and side stand sencers
That guy is just saying blunder.. We do get each and every thing he juast pointed out in india
@@khidhermoideen6288 yeah.......n cheap too
haan bhai... ye gore apan ko neecha dikhane mein lge rhte h... aur apne hi log insult hone ke baad bhi proud feel krte h aur comment krte h "i am an indian and i support u... we are idiots"
euro 5 here in paris .. costs about 4.5 to 5 lacs in Paris like so much more than in India... but man o. man do people turn around to look at this in Paris ... absolute beaut
Biggest reason the RE is more inexpensive is because of import duty and big modification in the engines for regulations.. foot rest and support bars are similar grade. 🙂
FUN FACT: You can bring the bike from India to anywhere, the reason is not possible for the newer models you need COC document which RE denies to provide from India. So they can sell the International models.