Neil deGrasse Tyson talks about how there is no statistics curriculum from kindergarten through 12th in the Joe Rogan Experience podcast. Episode - 1904
@@Cinnuhminn it doesn't matter if you spend 10 million in 10 years because your playing to make 1 Million In a day. Does that make sense? I'm playing for that 0.000001% chance to make a bunch of money now. If life made sense I'd just save up but I could be dead tomorrow
I know multiple people who have won. From 100k to my classmates parents that won 10 million. My neighbours won 4.4mill when I was young. It can happen.
@Get Drunk With Us that's not really stats, especially not true probability stats, which have a complicated formula that no middle schooler could even understand because the base knowledge of math for it isn't even there. Take a college stats class, and you'll see that Ratio's aren't even the surface
I don't think you can donate to influence required curriculums for schools. I'm pretty sure stuff like that is decided by federal guidelines and state/city elections.
Man I loved that episode... it started out rather tame and I thought "Man Alex Jones isn't as bat shit insane as everyone thinks he is"... then he proved me wrong... hard
My school taught me exactly what he’s talking about. We were always trying to figure out what were the probabilities of something and we ended up talking about the lottery.
@@krustykrew106 What kind of school has this been? Stochastic is a branch of maths and integral part of each science that handles numbers and decisions^^ Edit: Where I live, it is taught in 6th grade.
@@ralfjansen9118 idk my high school is poor we have none of that. The is school out in the middle of the country and I live in the south so that’s probably why
Don't worry. They teach a unit on stochastic, statistics, combinatorics, and probability in school in Western Europe, and we still play in lottery. We just call it "idiot tax" while doing so.
@Alpine913 I'm so sorry... at this point, I really have no clue what they do and don't teach at your schools, and I honestly didn't pick up on the "this is intentional falsehood to make it look worse than it is"-tone if there was any.... 😳
@@fraupfefferschote3663 it’s pretty confusing considering we have 50 states that make their own curriculum. In Missouri, my sis took a stats class in high school just last year.
@@matthewzimmers1097 yeah but the chances of already know that person's area code is high if you're speaking to them in person. Most likely they have the same area code as you, so youd really only be guessing their 7 digit number
I dont think neil understands that conspiracies aren't just jokes, like why would he bother banging on and on to give a joke theory thats not even funny
@@fehmuhIDK as a kid that was in the top science and math classes in high school, that's a full on nerd joke/food for thought. Would've killed in a stats class
@@user-gn5bu7tx1b I doubt that, it’s not even a joke bro where is the humor? If they taught statistics people wouldn’t play the lottery. It’s not even true, he acts like you need to understand advanced statistics to know that you have a very small chance of winning. Literally everyone understands that, this “joke” just comes of as pretentious, like he knows some secret about the lotto that is actually just common sense.
I took a statistics class in high school that taught this exact thing, probability of card counting and casinos, the lottery, games shows, it was an awesome class that I wish more people could have had a chance to take
Same I’m an Econ major and just about done - I’ve had plenty of high level stat classes and let me tell you, follow the numbers. They can help you make optimal decisions in every aspect of life.
I remember one time in school, the topic of probability came up in our math class. The main example was your chances of winning the lottery, and the teacher was going to go over a big ol' equation for us to find the answer. Before we would learn the equation, however, he wanted us to try and guess what the answer was. My guess was 1 in 250 million, and I remember him being surprised that I was only 5 million off. I never realized how few people understood probability and percentages until a few years later.
I was never good at math because I didn't care to pay attention in school so my math knowledge is around 4th grade level which is hilariously ignorant of me but probability and statistics always made sense to me. It's crazy how people dont know this stuff.
@@mariovillarreal8647 I mean if enough people buy it, someone will win. I haven't bought one in a year lol. I'm going to get one today, just the one dollar ticket
@Gmork I know, the man is a well established contributor to science, and a vastly intelligent man. He gets a lot of hate simply because he will revise his words mid-sentence to make his point come across easier.
One of my relatives set up the lottery in our state, literally the person in charge of it. They knew their odds, yet every month they'd buy a few tickets. This explains it all.
Yeah none of these were required in AZ. Basically just took algebra or geometry for 4 years that progressively got more complicated every year. school isn’t for anything to but teach us to follow directions and be good employees for the capitalist world.
Wait till you realise the world doesn't revolve around your state and there are other states with 200countries on different continents that has different schooling system. 🤡
I had a whole lesson on probabilities in middle school, one of the lectures on probabilities was entirely about the probabilities in the lottery I learned in middle school you’re more likely to get struck by lightning twice than to win the lottery
It is a tax on the poor, and no the party of income equality doesn’t want this as a whole. Using tax funds to go toward education is definitely supported by that party, but not through deceptive or coercive means like abusing gambling addictions… but nice strawman I guess
@Justme203 the only time I ever learned any actual stats in the US is when I took stats I highschool and it isn't required at all and most people don't take it they either don't take a math class senior year or take a Calc class
The money does in fact go to schools. But that doesn’t mean the schools get extra. For example. Say they wanna allocate $100 to go to schools, and the lottery takes in $50 the school still only gets $100. 50 from lotto 50 from taxes. That’s the real conspiracy
@@mrmedium7984You’re missing the ‘and environmental’. Intelligence doesn’t just depend on whether you were born clever. It heavily relies on whether both your brain was properly nurtured and your body is properly healthy.
My high school offered dual enrollment to the local community college so that high schoolers could start building college credits early. Statistics was the only college level math class that was only a 3 credit class instead of 4, massively disincentivizing taking it lmao
At my school district they had 'no money' and they were talking bout cutting sports. And then a few years later a bunch of high up people at the school district got busted for embezzling
@james d The military industrial complex who keep the world in constant state of war for more control and financial gain. The ones that John McAfee, Bilderberg, George Carlin, Matt Taibbi and so many more people have been trying to expose the evildoings of. The ones who Russel Brand, Jimmy Dore, and many have been ranting everyday against. The ones who imprison or detain or assassinate one truthteller after another, rig elections and manipulate media for their advantage and still have you guys believing this is all a conspiracy. It's all so clear, isn't it? The bitter truth is that not all people are as good as you and me. Some people really are evil and have gotten into positions of power and are actively plotting against us. Remember, you won't always be able to ignore it.
@@KidSereneonxbox But it actually is required learning in at least 40 states… If a state uses common core, then probability is required. Still doesn’t stop people from playing the lotto
Our TN lottery is one of the most successful in the country I believe. I recall going over probability for quite some time in my senior year. That being said, most folk will think about how unlikely it is to win big and just go for it regardless.
I was taught probability and statistics in an extra curricular class in school. We learned not to play the lottery and to this day I still have not wasted any money on it. I put my money towards things that have a much higher chance of making me money.
@@cc23001 no but finishing school isn't required either. Don't blame the system because you didn't take it upon yourself to take extra steps to better your own life. Like I said it was an extra class I signed up for because a finance class seems like something worth taking. I went to a poor school too without many options. Schools are providing the tools necessary to succeed but most kids aren't taking advantage of it.
@@welp3764 ok smart guy what is the wrong direction because to my knowledge it's painfully obvious schools provide kids with at least the bare minimum to succeed. I once seen a highschool that had a class where kids were building a house in a giant classroom and learning a trade. Some you can go get started as mechanic. Even if you dont do all that and do the bare minimum in school you learn math, and to read and to write. You wont get a very nice job if you dont have those basic skills. So let's all hear your explanation of why my take is dumb and your take isn't. What is the wrong direction?
It’s worse than that. The lottery money goes to education, but then the equivalent amount of tax money is removed from education for other purposes. So the schools are no better off. edit: did anybody actually read this for comprehension? I got too many comments thinking I'm against funding education. That's not what this says at all.
This is what they don’t talk about. All the money schools get from the lottery is then cut from federal funding because guess what the govt knows stupid people will pay it
@@about29cats but it's a lie. The lotto money received is offset in the budget. The politicians that push for opening up a state lottery make the argument it would improve education by increasing the budget. But that's a bold face lie, the increase gets offset
They teach probability and advanced probability in Ireland and people still play the lottery. Hell, I understand the odds and still play sometimes because the possibility of winning (even remote) makes me feel good.
Yeah same here. I know all the probability and statistics of it but I still play fairly often. What he's saying would make sense if people were trying to do it for a job or something, but nobody is. Nobody who plays the lottery is thinking "oh I'll make my money back in the long-term" it's just one of those things where I think why not. I got enough money I'm not gonna miss $2 and I have a chance at becoming super rich.
@@Zoroaster4 On a broad scale, people with less education tend to play the lottery more. Probability and statistics classes decrease the likelihood and amount that people will play. For a lot of people, probably most, the lottery is just a fun activity they do every once and a while. But the lottery, just like any form of gambling, has addicts.
@@ultimatedude5686 Perhaps people with less education make less money, therefore more likely to play to solve their financial issues. Plus, those same people who don't play spend their money on 7-dollar coffee and buy alcohol which has zero benefits to your life. It makes more sense to spend that money on a ticket that at least gives you a chance of winning.
pay a few bucks once in a while to dream about it, fine. Regular players though obviously don't understand probability. Gambling in general is mostly the same, house always win's in the end.
@@animefreak5757 I teach stats lol and I play when the jackpot is big because I understand probability. A one in a trillion chance is infinitely better than a probability of zero. Stop acting like you know everything bro.
I can confirm this. The first lottery that took place in Massachusetts was in April 1972. The following September, statistics and probability was removed from the state math requirements for high schools in Massachusetts. For 16 years high schools in Florida had that advantage over Massachusetts high schools. In September 1988 high schools in Florida discontinued teaching statistics and probability in high schools. Florida had just begun their own lottery the previous January.
Two things about Utah one there's no school shootings you know why with a license a teacher is allowed armed concealed and number two there's no lottery in that state so that kind of money does not corrupt educational system you want to gamble you can go to Nevada although I don't think they have a lottery either
I remember trying to explain risk to people concerning lotteries. Because the ticket was only $1 they did not think there was risk. The $1 only reflects what will be lost not the risk of losing it. The Risk is almost 100%.
My grandpa told me a story about the Ohio State lottery they gave money to the schools but took it off the budget initially so the schools didn't get anymore money
That sounds criminal. We should have well funded schools but they are all absolute shit. This I'm sure is a large reason why. I'm also sure someone is taking lots of that money for themselves before giving it to the schools
@@ah8893 they gave money to the schools (from the lottery) but took education funding down a peg on the state yearly budget. Resulting in the schools getting about the same as before, not extra money
As a high school math teacher who has taught probability and statistics I remember explicitly saying to my class not to play the lottery or casino games because of the law of large numbers
@@bigbengamer LOL.... no dramas big Ben. When you're on an international podcast. And you are a respected member of the community, we'll keep that in mind
@Sushi Addict NDT doesn't seem to me that he talks down to people. I question whether people can really tell the difference between spreading knowledge with energy and talking down. And what is talking down anyway? Where does NDT do it? I think it's an opinion thing
I think you misunderstood what he said. Probability and Statistics and not a required part to include in the math curriculum, that doesn't mean that schools can't choose to include this anyway if they want. The curriculum just states what must be taught, not what can be taught outside of what is mandatory. So you just happen to go to a school that felt that probability and statistics was inportant to include in you education.
I think the most important thing to remember…the thing that’s never really mentioned by the various state lottery commissions…is this: While the money raised by state lotteries does indeed go towards education, it is NOT in addition to the regular state funding that schools use to receive through state taxes. Rather, it replaced much of what the schools formerly received in tax funding from the state. So, the money taken in by lottery ticket sales is merely replacing the tax funded dollars that schools use to receive. Most of the school tax we pay nowadays is levied by the local municipalities within which the various school districts reside. Again, however, in regards to funding at the state level, the tax dollars that were once allocated to schools has been shifted to funding other state programs and projects. Public school districts in many areas, are egregiously underfunded behind the lottery ‘smoke screen’ that makes folks think that the money raised by lottery tickets is in addition to the regular state funding schools use to receive in the pre-lottery era. There is such a high demand for teachers, and yet many districts are laying off educators because of budget deficits within the various districts.
"Pay us money to lose, but if you ever do win were gonna tax half of it anyways, that way we get all the money from the losers and half of the winners"
Is that how it's taxed? In the UK gambling operators pay an additional levy so in a way lottery winnings were already taxed through operators and there is no additional tax to pay of you win.
In most states, the lottery supplements the public education budget, it doesn't increase it. The extra money is still used on other things the vast majority of times
Literally remember my high school math teacher drilling into us how astronomically small the chances of winning the lottery are to this day 15 years later. I'll only do it once every few years when the powerball is over 1 billion when some coworkers decide to do it, since he told us at that point, you are actually getting your expected value out of your money.
Yeah, I don't think the math will convince the average person not to play the lottery. Whether it's 1/1,000,000 or 1/10,000,000, people will still hope to be the exception, lol. Every person knows they're the odds are against them, including gamblers.
I swear people keep saying the same thing again and again, soon as they see Neil video they hop on the comments and say he loves his voice and not even try listening to what he has to say. Stop projecting your insecurities
@@jesuschrist435 you obviously haven't seen enough videos... dude pretends to be an expert on absolutely everything. I can't stand him. The matter of fact tone and push back he gives is unwavering. This particular video is very mild compared to his strong stance.
People don’t play the lottery cause they think they’re gonna win, they buy it cause for 4 dollars you can have a nice little thrill / thing to look forward to.
I met an old man who was so close to winning the lottery this way and then the state added 3 more numbers 😂😂😂 He’s a really nice man. He wanted to teach me but I’m dumb as bricks with math.
What completely killed the very idea of the lottery for me was when it occurred to me that I had an exactly equal chance of winning with the numbers '123456' as I did with any other combinations of numbers. Something about that realization made me REALLY see how unlikely it is to win.
Probability and Statistics is also "newer" Math. It wasn't discovered until after Calculus was discovered. When it was first discovered, however, the mathematician said in his paper, "wow, statistics are actually really useful"
Watch till the end for full context
Watch till the end means there's nothing worth watching in the video.
Now I'm thinking that's why.
@@I.C.Weiner Naah. Honestly, I just wrote that so it's fully clear that he's joking.
Dude... everyone knows the odd suck. Degenerates will play no matter what
One of the few times saying watch is ok honestly
Something tells me that even knowing basic probability and statistics wouldn’t stop the majority of regular Lotto players having a go.
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True. We have probability theory lessons in schools in my country. People still play lotteries 😄
I still play
@@cczsus6513I wonder how much money he would’ve ‘won’ by not participating. But I guess it’s a better relief mechanism than some other things
@@Cinnuhminn it doesn't matter if you spend 10 million in 10 years because your playing to make 1 Million In a day. Does that make sense? I'm playing for that 0.000001% chance to make a bunch of money now. If life made sense I'd just save up but I could be dead tomorrow
My dad used to say that "the lottery is the tax of the fool".
Lol you heard that phrase somewhere stop cappin
@Chocobo really, since I was a kid in my country he used to say that, he's been gone 20 years now but I still remember.
Player 4 times in my 40 years. Nice gag as long as you do consider any Money spend aß gonSpending cash on it regulary? Hell No.
@@chocobo6639 His dad heard it somewhere, he heard it from his dad. There are many variations to "The lottery is the tax of the ____"
Education is where tax money goes, and most of the winnings go to the government, so absolutely.
Me at the gas station:
“Can you just give me my lottery ticket?”
Every math teacher I had, in high school, at least once said never play the lottery.
The funny thing is my math teacher played all the time
I know multiple people who have won. From 100k to my classmates parents that won 10 million. My neighbours won 4.4mill when I was young. It can happen.
Every time you don’t play the lottery, you win two dollars!
Mann my math teacher told us to play the lottery and split the earning with him 😂
Man wins lottery worth millions
- man donates towards the states school curriculum and for probability statistics
- you weren't supposed to do that
He’s not talking about lottery winners he’s talking about the excess of money in the lottery pot when there is no jackpot winner.
SC here…..taught probability. Can’t imagine someone who is not. Even in middle school we learned ratios and osds
I had to learn probability for dice and stuff like that when I was in middle school, but still a good theory
@Get Drunk With Us that's not really stats, especially not true probability stats, which have a complicated formula that no middle schooler could even understand because the base knowledge of math for it isn't even there. Take a college stats class, and you'll see that Ratio's aren't even the surface
I don't think you can donate to influence required curriculums for schools. I'm pretty sure stuff like that is decided by federal guidelines and state/city elections.
That Alex Jones overlap killed me 😂
Startled me
Funniest part of the whole thing
They fact that they chose a clip that displayed so much ferocity is what got me. They could have just put a regular photo of Alex Jones but no
@@supremekhy6753 lol your right l I still don't know what relevance that photo bad to the video
Man I loved that episode... it started out rather tame and I thought "Man Alex Jones isn't as bat shit insane as everyone thinks he is"... then he proved me wrong... hard
They don’t need to teach probability in statistics they need to teach you how to use your money well.
And know your work rights!
@@jackkraken3888 that's so fucking unrelated that it's hilarious xD
@@AceFaz so is learning to use money well
@@KalphosZeromar I think they meant, "don't waste money on lottery tickets", but sure.
The conspiracy theorists will have a field day with that one.
They never showed me the math of paying taxes to get my check and paying them to spend it. 30% gone
My school taught me exactly what he’s talking about. We were always trying to figure out what were the probabilities of something and we ended up talking about the lottery.
That's how I know it... Plus, at least where I live, children are not allowed to play the lottery but adults only, so all is fine.
My school has never talked about statistics, it’s not a class you can take either
@@krustykrew106 What kind of school has this been? Stochastic is a branch of maths and integral part of each science that handles numbers and decisions^^ Edit: Where I live, it is taught in 6th grade.
@@ralfjansen9118 idk my high school is poor we have none of that. The is school out in the middle of the country and I live in the south so that’s probably why
@@krustykrew106 I was taught all of that in a geometry class in a small town in Maine
Don't worry. They teach a unit on stochastic, statistics, combinatorics, and probability in school in Western Europe, and we still play in lottery. We just call it "idiot tax" while doing so.
They do as well in the US. He was just making it up that schools don’t to be funny
@Alpine913 I'm so sorry... at this point, I really have no clue what they do and don't teach at your schools, and I honestly didn't pick up on the "this is intentional falsehood to make it look worse than it is"-tone if there was any.... 😳
@@fraupfefferschote3663 it’s pretty confusing considering we have 50 states that make their own curriculum. In Missouri, my sis took a stats class in high school just last year.
They teach it in the US 😂 don’t believe anything ever said on this podcast
@@hacksawhackmann pretty sure NDT was joking...
I literally remember a single week dedicated to probability in my entire 12 years of schooling
As my statistics teacher would say, “bingo bango we have a winner”
You're more likely to tell a complete stranger their phone number than win the jackpot!
are you saying there is a chance?!!
If there was a chance I’d win a million dollars for guessing a someone’s phone number I’d be doing that too
Maybe their 7 digit number. Power ball is 1/300,000,000 an 8 digit number would be 1 in a billion.
@@matthewzimmers1097 yeah but the chances of already know that person's area code is high if you're speaking to them in person. Most likely they have the same area code as you, so youd really only be guessing their 7 digit number
But there’s still a chance though….. Right? 🧐
He was making a joke. That’s why he laughed, then when Joe didn’t get it, he explained the joke… never explain the joke.
I dont think neil understands that conspiracies aren't just jokes, like why would he bother banging on and on to give a joke theory thats not even funny
Explaining a fake theory with nothing funny about it doesn’t really come off as a joke, get off the copium
NDT has aspergers he doesnt understand jokes
@@fehmuhIDK as a kid that was in the top science and math classes in high school, that's a full on nerd joke/food for thought. Would've killed in a stats class
@@user-gn5bu7tx1b I doubt that, it’s not even a joke bro where is the humor? If they taught statistics people wouldn’t play the lottery. It’s not even true, he acts like you need to understand advanced statistics to know that you have a very small chance of winning. Literally everyone understands that, this “joke” just comes of as pretentious, like he knows some secret about the lotto that is actually just common sense.
I took a statistics class in high school that taught this exact thing, probability of card counting and casinos, the lottery, games shows, it was an awesome class that I wish more people could have had a chance to take
As someone who was taught probability statistics, I can attest that nobody paid attention to that shit
that's why most people were paranoid about C-19, and neither looking at hard data...!
after taking college statistics I viewed the whole world differently.. Not just the lotto
damn bro thats deep
@@tonyelectionfraud669 yea, the numbers dont lie, even when you really want them to.
@@airgunningyup numbers don't lie, but it's very easy to lie using them tho
Man, statistics didn't teach me shit.
Same I’m an Econ major and just about done - I’ve had plenty of high level stat classes and let me tell you, follow the numbers. They can help you make optimal decisions in every aspect of life.
We literally were required to take statistics junior year in my school.
I remember one time in school, the topic of probability came up in our math class. The main example was your chances of winning the lottery, and the teacher was going to go over a big ol' equation for us to find the answer. Before we would learn the equation, however, he wanted us to try and guess what the answer was.
My guess was 1 in 250 million, and I remember him being surprised that I was only 5 million off. I never realized how few people understood probability and percentages until a few years later.
I was never good at math because I didn't care to pay attention in school so my math knowledge is around 4th grade level which is hilariously ignorant of me but probability and statistics always made sense to me. It's crazy how people dont know this stuff.
But there's still winners that buck all odds and laws of chance.
@@mariovillarreal8647 I mean if enough people buy it, someone will win. I haven't bought one in a year lol. I'm going to get one today, just the one dollar ticket
Neil really be trying to cancel what he said mid sentence to avoid getting assassinated by someone
Jesus christ.... every person that says anything relatively conspiratorial, *gets assassinated*. You're brain is mush buddy boi
I agree, 1000%.
I have seen people claim Neil is a fraud just because he stammered.
@@AnkleGremlin I don't like him but it's for selfish reasons. He was a huge voice for removing Pluto as a planet. He's definitely no fraud.
@Gmork I know, the man is a well established contributor to science, and a vastly intelligent man. He gets a lot of hate simply because he will revise his words mid-sentence to make his point come across easier.
He saved his life with that last part😂
One of my relatives set up the lottery in our state, literally the person in charge of it. They knew their odds, yet every month they'd buy a few tickets. This explains it all.
Wait till he finds out it’s not a requirement to take statistics cause you can choose to take Statistics, Calculus, or financial literacy.
statistics is a state requirement for me in Florida
Or computer
Science
Yeah none of these were required in AZ. Basically just took algebra or geometry for 4 years that progressively got more complicated every year. school isn’t for anything to but teach us to follow directions and be good employees for the capitalist world.
Wait till you realise the world doesn't revolve around your state and there are other states with 200countries on different continents that has different schooling system. 🤡
i took calc fuck stats
I was taught probability in school back in the 90s. But you don’t need to learn probability to know that you’re not going to win the lottery.
Agreed. Not even probability & statistics can help predict those randomized numbers.
Yup I was taught probability in school and I remember my teacher used the lottery as an example
Not with that attitude, you're not.
@Lincoln Ford Human feelings like attitude or arrogance play no factor in a randomized result.
I had a whole lesson on probabilities in middle school, one of the lectures on probabilities was entirely about the probabilities in the lottery I learned in middle school you’re more likely to get struck by lightning twice than to win the lottery
NDT is the perfect example for the Dunning-Krüger-effect . He represents it in every single topic
It’s a tax on the poor and the party of “income equality” loves it
I don't think you know what a tax is. No one is forcing anyone to buy a lottery ticket.
No it’s not.
Normally it’s referred to as a tax on the stupid
"Tax on the poor"💀 I lost brain cells lmao
It is a tax on the poor, and no the party of income equality doesn’t want this as a whole. Using tax funds to go toward education is definitely supported by that party, but not through deceptive or coercive means like abusing gambling addictions… but nice strawman I guess
It’s not a statistics game but rather a psychological game the lottery is playing
@jadenli7793 No homo, I fucking love you. I've been saying that for at least ten years. This comment should be number one!
@@jkorb3541 it amazes me how this is not obvious to most people.
i just lost my whole prostate when he said "its a little suspicious"
"NO NO I'M NOT SAYING THAT"
"YES I'M SAYING THAT"
😭😭
Wait till he finds out statistics is an actual class you can take in highschool
keyword: can. he said it wasn't a required part of the curriculum.
@@cr1tikal_arc No, but it's a concept taught in both algebra and pre-calculus, so it's not like the kids never learnt it. It's in the curriculum.
Ndt also says hes just fuckin around. Dude gets alot of flak for his big personality.
@@Justme-ih9wsStatistics are never taught as part of pre-calculus or Algebra. Please give an example to back up your point.
@Justme203 the only time I ever learned any actual stats in the US is when I took stats I highschool and it isn't required at all and most people don't take it they either don't take a math class senior year or take a Calc class
If the money really went to education we would have state of the art schools and our kids wouldn't be so dam stupid
Well.. nobody said how the $$ was spent. What if the goal IS to make kids stupid?
The money does in fact go to schools. But that doesn’t mean the schools get extra. For example. Say they wanna allocate $100 to go to schools, and the lottery takes in $50 the school still only gets $100. 50 from lotto 50 from taxes. That’s the real conspiracy
intelligence is genetic
@@mrmedium7984You’re missing the ‘and environmental’. Intelligence doesn’t just depend on whether you were born clever. It heavily relies on whether both your brain was properly nurtured and your body is properly healthy.
@@mrmedium7984 this level of intelligence is not genetic, we have terrible schools.
It’s how they figure out who was paying attention in math class.
my teacher told me i’m more lucky to get struck by lightning than to win the lottery
Studying about odds was maybe the most fun i had with maths
My high school offered dual enrollment to the local community college so that high schoolers could start building college credits early. Statistics was the only college level math class that was only a 3 credit class instead of 4, massively disincentivizing taking it lmao
@@ltunesdownIoad sir that was one of the most brainless comments I’ve ever seen. Genuinely unable to decipher😂
"That's not what I'm saying" "that's what I'm saying"😅
At my school district they had 'no money' and they were talking bout cutting sports. And then a few years later a bunch of high up people at the school district got busted for embezzling
holy shit, the story teller and myself, finally, have something agreed upon.
Dude that AJ fade in 😂😂😂
They taught us probability and told us to play the lottery anyway lmao
Damn he’s such an agent for the matrix he’s even uncomfortable saying THAT
Please tell me you’re talking about the Matrix with Neo in it and not the one with Andrew Tate in it lol
Stop it with the matrix crap
@@faytleingod2145 What do call them?
@@mrvivek815Who is them??? You people talk like Morpheus but you come across just like a Hollywood block buster.. fake as f*ck
@james d The military industrial complex who keep the world in constant state of war for more control and financial gain. The ones that John McAfee, Bilderberg, George Carlin, Matt Taibbi and so many more people have been trying to expose the evildoings of. The ones who Russel Brand, Jimmy Dore, and many have been ranting everyday against. The ones who imprison or detain or assassinate one truthteller after another, rig elections and manipulate media for their advantage and still have you guys believing this is all a conspiracy. It's all so clear, isn't it? The bitter truth is that not all people are as good as you and me. Some people really are evil and have gotten into positions of power and are actively plotting against us. Remember, you won't always be able to ignore it.
Teacher: students, theres no way in hell ur going to win the lottery!!!
Kid: ehhh its fun anyway... and i have an extra dollar...
Statistically speaking you’re more likely to be struck by lightning than to win the lottery.
I took a whole class on probability and statistics in high school it was one of my math credits
He's saying it's not required learning like algebra
Great. Armed with that knowledge, I'm assuming that you don't buy lottery tickets.
He didn't say you couldn't take it, he said it's not required which it isnt.
@@CorboWill But it actually is required learning in at least 40 states… If a state uses common core, then probability is required.
@@KidSereneonxbox But it actually is required learning in at least 40 states… If a state uses common core, then probability is required. Still doesn’t stop people from playing the lotto
“I’m not saying that” “maybe I am saying that” 😂
Our TN lottery is one of the most successful in the country I believe. I recall going over probability for quite some time in my senior year. That being said, most folk will think about how unlikely it is to win big and just go for it regardless.
They teach probabilities in German school and we still play the lottery over here 😂
I was taught probability and statistics in an extra curricular class in school. We learned not to play the lottery and to this day I still have not wasted any money on it. I put my money towards things that have a much higher chance of making me money.
But was it required? Kinda proving his point..
@@cc23001 no but finishing school isn't required either. Don't blame the system because you didn't take it upon yourself to take extra steps to better your own life. Like I said it was an extra class I signed up for because a finance class seems like something worth taking. I went to a poor school too without many options. Schools are providing the tools necessary to succeed but most kids aren't taking advantage of it.
@@The0Mann the entire point of high school is to point uninformed minds in the wrong direction. This has got to be one of the most dumb takes
@@welp3764 ok smart guy what is the wrong direction because to my knowledge it's painfully obvious schools provide kids with at least the bare minimum to succeed. I once seen a highschool that had a class where kids were building a house in a giant classroom and learning a trade. Some you can go get started as mechanic. Even if you dont do all that and do the bare minimum in school you learn math, and to read and to write. You wont get a very nice job if you dont have those basic skills. So let's all hear your explanation of why my take is dumb and your take isn't. What is the wrong direction?
It’s worse than that. The lottery money goes to education, but then the equivalent amount of tax money is removed from education for other purposes. So the schools are no better off.
edit: did anybody actually read this for comprehension? I got too many comments thinking I'm against funding education. That's not what this says at all.
This is what they don’t talk about. All the money schools get from the lottery is then cut from federal funding because guess what the govt knows stupid people will pay it
"It bad because they get money for education" -Mark Bell
Bingo!
@@about29cats but it's a lie. The lotto money received is offset in the budget. The politicians that push for opening up a state lottery make the argument it would improve education by increasing the budget. But that's a bold face lie, the increase gets offset
@ChanMan405 so let me get this straight, the lottery gives the state money for education, and that's bad?
Neil's out here with the "I'm not say'n, I'm just say'n."
One man broke the lottery and the whole community joined. I forgot the name of that person
They removed education funding from one area and put it on the lottery, so it's not extra money
Literall had a casino comercial when I swiped lmao
Most students forget the application after the exam even if it’s thought.
Knowing the odds is one thing but it's that feeling of "but what if it was me"
Yup, I damn well know the odds but when it hits a billion dollars even I'm willing to throw down a couple bucks.
They teach probability and advanced probability in Ireland and people still play the lottery. Hell, I understand the odds and still play sometimes because the possibility of winning (even remote) makes me feel good.
Yeah same here. I know all the probability and statistics of it but I still play fairly often. What he's saying would make sense if people were trying to do it for a job or something, but nobody is. Nobody who plays the lottery is thinking "oh I'll make my money back in the long-term" it's just one of those things where I think why not. I got enough money I'm not gonna miss $2 and I have a chance at becoming super rich.
@@Zoroaster4 On a broad scale, people with less education tend to play the lottery more. Probability and statistics classes decrease the likelihood and amount that people will play. For a lot of people, probably most, the lottery is just a fun activity they do every once and a while. But the lottery, just like any form of gambling, has addicts.
@@ultimatedude5686 Perhaps people with less education make less money, therefore more likely to play to solve their financial issues.
Plus, those same people who don't play spend their money on 7-dollar coffee and buy alcohol which has zero benefits to your life.
It makes more sense to spend that money on a ticket that at least gives you a chance of winning.
pay a few bucks once in a while to dream about it, fine. Regular players though obviously don't understand probability. Gambling in general is mostly the same, house always win's in the end.
@@animefreak5757 I teach stats lol and I play when the jackpot is big because I understand probability. A one in a trillion chance is infinitely better than a probability of zero. Stop acting like you know everything bro.
Meanwhile my highschool has a class called "probability and statistics" 😂
As a middle school teacher, we had a unit on statistics and a unit on probability in 6th and 7th grade.
While lottery income is generally sent towards education, it's often accompanied by business tax cuts, meaning *no extra money is sent to education.*
Neil: I’m not saying that
Joe: what are you saying
Neil: yes I’m saying that
😂😂😂
In the gas station industry the lotto is called “the idiot tax”
I can confirm this. The first lottery that took place in Massachusetts was in April 1972. The following September, statistics and probability was removed from the state math requirements for high schools in Massachusetts. For 16 years high schools in Florida had that advantage over Massachusetts high schools. In September 1988 high schools in Florida discontinued teaching statistics and probability in high schools. Florida had just begun their own lottery the previous January.
Yeah in FL it was supposed to go to the education budget but it became the whole budget
That's what happens in almost every state.
Two things about Utah one there's no school shootings you know why with a license a teacher is allowed armed concealed and number two there's no lottery in that state so that kind of money does not corrupt educational system you want to gamble you can go to Nevada although I don't think they have a lottery either
The lottery is not a tax on people who are bad at math. It's a tax on poor people that despite the math have no other option but to hope in vain.
I saw a woman on TV explain why she played the lottery and she said "it's the only chance I have of ever being rich."
That actually made sense to me.
They have OTHER options, because the lottery ISNT an option, it's burning your money
@@jtowensbyiii6018 no, it's not burning money, it's a long odds bet with the odds heavily stacked against you.
Teacher ain’t teach us probability till high school 😭😭
I remember trying to explain risk to people concerning lotteries. Because the ticket was only $1 they did not think there was risk. The $1 only reflects what will be lost not the risk of losing it. The Risk is almost 100%.
My grandpa told me a story about the Ohio State lottery they gave money to the schools but took it off the budget initially so the schools didn't get anymore money
What
That sounds criminal. We should have well funded schools but they are all absolute shit. This I'm sure is a large reason why. I'm also sure someone is taking lots of that money for themselves before giving it to the schools
@@ah8893 they gave money to the schools (from the lottery) but took education funding down a peg on the state yearly budget. Resulting in the schools getting about the same as before, not extra money
As a high school math teacher who has taught probability and statistics I remember explicitly saying to my class not to play the lottery or casino games because of the law of large numbers
The students taking probability and statistics are not the ones who play the lottery....remedial math....there's the ticket.
Lotteries were originally used to fund infrastructure during the formative years of our country.
My school had an entire class on statistics.
This clip makes Neil look like quite a friendly guy. I'm used to seeing him talk down to people.
People accuse me of sometimes talking down to people. But that's not the case, nor is it with Dr. Tyson. We just like to teach and spread knowledge.
@@bigbengamer excuse me, who are you?
@@bigbengamer LOL.... no dramas big Ben. When you're on an international podcast. And you are a respected member of the community, we'll keep that in mind
@@bigbengamer you can spread knowledge or teach but thats completely separate from talking down. This does not go hand in hand
@Sushi Addict NDT doesn't seem to me that he talks down to people. I question whether people can really tell the difference between spreading knowledge with energy and talking down. And what is talking down anyway? Where does NDT do it? I think it's an opinion thing
State mafia have their hands in the "estimated" amount.
I had a stats teacher with a poster on the wall that read "lottery: A tax on people who are bad at math"
Probability and statistics doesn't say "don't play the lottery", it says don't buy more than one ticket.
We were taught probability, in a public school, in the 90s. And I only took the required math.
I think you misunderstood what he said. Probability and Statistics and not a required part to include in the math curriculum, that doesn't mean that schools can't choose to include this anyway if they want.
The curriculum just states what must be taught, not what can be taught outside of what is mandatory.
So you just happen to go to a school that felt that probability and statistics was inportant to include in you education.
I think the most important thing to remember…the thing that’s never really mentioned by the various state lottery commissions…is this: While the money raised by state lotteries does indeed go towards education, it is NOT in addition to the regular state funding that schools use to receive through state taxes. Rather, it replaced much of what the schools formerly received in tax funding from the state. So, the money taken in by lottery ticket sales is merely replacing the tax funded dollars that schools use to receive. Most of the school tax we pay nowadays is levied by the local municipalities within which the various school districts reside. Again, however, in regards to funding at the state level, the tax dollars that were once allocated to schools has been shifted to funding other state programs and projects. Public school districts in many areas, are egregiously underfunded behind the lottery ‘smoke screen’ that makes folks think that the money raised by lottery tickets is in addition to the regular state funding schools use to receive in the pre-lottery era. There is such a high demand for teachers, and yet many districts are laying off educators because of budget deficits within the various districts.
What I find the most cruel is the lottery in Oregon is literally a lot machines.
My high-school probability and stats class is the entire reason why I don't play the lottery lol
It’s actually caused by teachers who don’t understand probabilities.
My high school stats teacher used the lottery to teach us permutations
NDT “I’m not saying that” 👁️👄👁️
Joe “so what are you saying”
NDT “okay, yes I am saying that….”
"Pay us money to lose, but if you ever do win were gonna tax half of it anyways, that way we get all the money from the losers and half of the winners"
Is that how it's taxed? In the UK gambling operators pay an additional levy so in a way lottery winnings were already taxed through operators and there is no additional tax to pay of you win.
i took a math class specifically on stats and probability lmao
In most states, the lottery supplements the public education budget, it doesn't increase it. The extra money is still used on other things the vast majority of times
Gotta realize the dude who can be sober an tell you about the universe here might be onto something
It's called the idiot tax.
And public schools make those by the millions.
So what do you call people who buy useless things like alcohol, weed, overpriced coffee, etc.
@@abumansaray7 black
@@neeGrowsCarryAIDS 😐
Literally remember my high school math teacher drilling into us how astronomically small the chances of winning the lottery are to this day 15 years later. I'll only do it once every few years when the powerball is over 1 billion when some coworkers decide to do it, since he told us at that point, you are actually getting your expected value out of your money.
In Texas making the Lottery legal was sold to support education, but it didn’t happen.
We have probability statistics in school and we still use the lottery all the time lol
Yeah, I don't think the math will convince the average person not to play the lottery. Whether it's 1/1,000,000 or 1/10,000,000, people will still hope to be the exception, lol. Every person knows they're the odds are against them, including gamblers.
Neil really loves the sound of his own voice
He's a famous ivy league astrophysicist on a podcast. What do you what him to do? Communicate in ASL?
@@casslester3625 idk all these people that complain about him don't listen to him anyway.
I swear people keep saying the same thing again and again, soon as they see Neil video they hop on the comments and say he loves his voice and not even try listening to what he has to say. Stop projecting your insecurities
@Cass Lester, he's as arrogant as can be.
@@jesuschrist435 you obviously haven't seen enough videos... dude pretends to be an expert on absolutely everything. I can't stand him. The matter of fact tone and push back he gives is unwavering. This particular video is very mild compared to his strong stance.
I was taught a little bit of probability statistics in high school in statistics lol
The Alex Jones overlay took me out 🤣
People don’t play the lottery cause they think they’re gonna win, they buy it cause for 4 dollars you can have a nice little thrill / thing to look forward to.
I met an old man who was so close to winning the lottery this way and then the state added 3 more numbers 😂😂😂
He’s a really nice man. He wanted to teach me but I’m dumb as bricks with math.
What completely killed the very idea of the lottery for me was when it occurred to me that I had an exactly equal chance of winning with the numbers '123456' as I did with any other combinations of numbers.
Something about that realization made me REALLY see how unlikely it is to win.
The funds goes into The General Fund for each state. However, the probability part … Sounds about right!!
They do teach that tho….
Probability and Statistics is also "newer" Math. It wasn't discovered until after Calculus was discovered. When it was first discovered, however, the mathematician said in his paper, "wow, statistics are actually really useful"