Full Shock Rebuild With Shock Therapy Springs. Not Worth It!! Full Install, Ride And Review
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- Is your RZR Pro XP making banging or clunking sounds? Tender springs completely flat? Ride really squishy and soft? Watch this episode and make some changes. I install and review shock therapy springs. If you have clapped out suspension like mine, there are worth it because same price as stock. If you looking to upgrade for a ay better ride, well, you want to watch this video.
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Have a Pro R 4 Ult., on 35’s. Shocks are stock but the springs are ST. Worth every penny hamds down. First time I didn’t do the complete shocks with them. Still very happy. They make great products and there customer service is very good to.
Worth every penny on my X3. Springs, internals, and bump steer delete. It’s a different machine. 70mph smooth as silk in the whoops.
You just did a dual spring kit!
You should have sent the shocks to Shock Therapy & have them rebuild the valving to you type of riding!
Also you start on the softest setting on the clickers.
If you bottom out you then move the clicker to the next setting & go til the RZR doesn’t bottom out!
This will give you the best ride, but you need your valving redone to get best ride quality!
As the title says, I rebuilt the shocks days before I put the springs on. Yes there full treatment with revalve will make more of a difference. But I’m from Canada and shipping alone costs an absurd amount. I can custom order full set King shocks brand new for that kind of money.
Suspension on softness setting is a marshmallow, doesn’t corner at all. All I’m saying in the video is if you have a newer machine and think springs are going to make a difference you will be disappointed, if you have clapped out ones and need new ones, you might as well buy shock therapy ones. Thanks for watching and the comment
I am also in Canada 🇨🇦. Purchased shock therapy springs for my 21 pro xp ultimate. I put them on just a few months after purchasing the machine new. And like you, I was a bit disappointed in how little the difference was between the factory springs ride and the shock therapy ride as far as just comfort goes. BUT... they were a great improvement on jumps and whoops... I have a couple videos showing before and after over the same whoops. And you can see the difference. So I short... my opinion... if you want to simply improve the ride quality of your pro xp... save your money... but if you want to drive aggressive, jump and high speeds over rough terrain... I absolutely suggest the shock therapy route.
Thanks for the comment I appreciate it.
same thing with the rzr aid Tender Spring
makes it stiffer
A lot of people out there promoting stuff for their own personal gain and not being honest
It's great that you made a honest review to keep people from blowing their money like we did
need to find a Shock guy that we can trust
if you wanted a night and day improvement in your ride you should have bought the fox factory shocks from shock therapy that come with the ST springs
I would recommend you go to their website and watch a lot more their videos. What did your car come with for tires originally what 29s 30s, 35 is massive more weight and that is way harder on the shock. nothing to do with the springs. Full rebuild would also entail replacing the spring stacks inside the shock. They were engineered for what came on the car not for those big heavy 35s so yeah you'll still probably bottom out or it'll be harsh if you turn the compression up so you don't. And if you watch the videos they never claim earth shattering differences. they say it'll make your ride 20 to 30% better and it sure sounds like it did more than that. They also say revalving will be another 40 or 50% better.
Canada here as well. Altho I went with Eibachs over ST, I agree with you 100%, I found new springs helped it a bit, but if it was a 2 out of 10 before spring kit, the new springs made it a 4. I then went with a rebuild, recharged nitrogen and revalved at same time, and that made a huge difference, I’d have to say it’s a 7 or 8 out of 10 now.
2024 Polaris RZR 1000 XP Ultimate and it was a night and day difference in the ride and performance of our machine with the Shock Therapy dual rate spring kit. No regrets and what an improvement in the ride height. Factory springs are junk in my opinion. When we made the change we were just over 1,000 miles. Furture plans to have Shock Therapy rebuild and valving done.
I think when the sxs blog guys talk about them they do the whole build, springs re valve and tune based on there specs(weight, passenger, riding style, accessories and so on. Just changing the fluid and seals will just make them feel like new again.
Yes for sure. I’m sure the full therapy treatment would more of a difference. They do ask quite a few questions in weight, riding style, tire size, what your carrying even if you just by the springs. It is a good product, just wasn’t mind blowing. If you have a different machine with really stiff suspension I think you would notice a much larger difference. Thanks for watching and comment.
@@twistedsxs2426I also think they make a bigger difference on fully loaded machines with butts in every seat, spare tire hanging off the back and a bunch of other accessories. If the overall weight of your car is about the same as stock, I don’t imagine their spring rates will be much different with the exception of the dual rate being a lot smoother over smaller chatter bumps.
Yeah I think they'll make a huge difference on my honda talon but a rzr already rides pretty good
they're springs, they hold the car up. They look like the do a great job at that, good springs. Your old springs, clapped out, and had 8" of pre load, didnt hold the car up like they should, bad springs. considering you got 8 springs, 4 dual rate sliders, and 4 dual rate clamps. sounds like the going rate for all that.
Shock Therapy springs will rub your shock body and possibly destroy the shock. I learned the hard way. Also make sure you readjust your ride height since you’ve went on a couple rides. They will settle which makes the rubbing worse.
I did end up adding ride height to the rear after a few rides and made a quite a bit of difference. Any way to make the springs not rub the shock?
@@twistedsxs2426 not that I'm aware of. I think having the ride height where it's suppose to be will help. In my case with 32" tires it really tightened up the springs. Shock Therapy did a youtube video trying to explain why their shocks rub but I think it's a bunch of crap really because the other spring companies don't seem to have this problem.
It looked like the stock springs did a really great job at wherein the shock bodes. So stock spring wear the bodies ST springs wear the bodies! What is you suggestion, shock guru?
@@brianbaxter3574 where did I say I was a shock guru? I was just saying my experience with shock therapy springs and I was told by a guy that rebuilds shocks for a living that it's very typical from shock therapy springs but not typical from other spring companies. As for stock springs I didn't have body wear from the stock springs.
Any dual rate spring set up will wear your body’s there a wear item I have 2 machines one a 2018 rzr turbo with 5 k miles and has st all around and it was amazing just had them do a full rebuild including body’s it was 2 k but the difference is worth the money my 4 seat pro xp Rockford has fox live valve with st springs now that’s a whole other level
You need a full revalve on those shocks. I would find some place other than Shock Therapy. And don’t listen to SxS blog… they are great guys but getting funded & sposored by the aftermarket
The title of the video is kind of misleading. Swapping springs is not a full shock rebuild. Also if your shocks internal wear parts ( bushings, seals , oil , nitrogen charge, etc) are shot, there’s no set of springs that will compensate for those issues. Sorry buddy, but you are going to have to lighten your wallet and get the other half of your problem fixed. When you do, it will be the best money you spend on your car.
Bushings are in great shape, just had a full rebuild with brand new oil and nitrogen and ceils were like new. Don’t get me wrong, if your springs are shot, I would 100% buy shock therapy over stock but if you expecting night and day earth shattering improvement, you will be disappointed. Thanks watching and the comment.
It’s the sway bars that make it rough on an odd bump. If you don’t hit them square, it will be rough on a two seater.
WTF, BROTHER you had me ordering a set from Shock Theropy, BUT your final conclusion was less than satisfactory from your perspective!?! ( Which I completely respect!!) I run 35x8.5x20 Motohavok's on Mav Sport XMR the ride is BRUTAL!! I greatly appreciate your insight and efforts so I'm curious what your next step is?? Thx! 🤙😎
The Pro XP has a plush ride to begin with, smoothness on mid to upper range speed is better. If your suspension is rough at any speed, you will feel a ride quality improvement difference for sure with shock therapy. I have heard the Mav sport do ride rough. You will get a different result I feel. I had havocs before and they don’t ride great. This likely doesn’t help you any either. Next step for me play with shock adjusters and tire pressure to dial it in. Thanks for watching.
@@twistedsxs2426 I'm working towards have more of a speed set up, suspension settings have little effect in mud just need clearance and traction. It's the fast TWISTED bits that I need to soften the ride, we rode in Sudbury yesterday where the logging roads are absolutely phenomenal!! But flying over a crest or extreme downhill only to hit a serious wash out of rocks, making them BOULDERS!! LMAO HITTING this at speed is a sphincter criching experience 🤣 scary to think what the machine is experiencing $?$?$ 🤔🤙😎
@@geoffreyneish7999 would love to know those trails. You will see an improvement for sure on those types of roads.
@@twistedsxs2426 So did I!!! lmfao I bought a set of carnivor 30's off a guy just north of Sudbury, CONDITION of sale was we MUST go for a ride, after 6 hrs of rally'ish driving my entire body needed retorquing!!!!! DEFINITELY going back before wet fall leaves turn it into a Bobsled Run, will let you know for sure!! 😉
@@geoffreyneish7999 sounds good I would appreciate it!
I have a 22 pro and wondering what to do. Was planning on getting st spring kit for mine and after watching this video I’m not sure anymore 😂. I’m from New Brunswick Canada and there’s a local suspension shop around and they are a walker evens supplier so I might just bring mine in for a tune up and might get better results. 6000 km on the car.
2020 pro xp ultimate i put their dual rates on it the beginning of last year and it’s pretty harsh over small chatter and small rocks. Overall not impressed with them at all.
Mts does make a difference
springs doesnt make your shock better- as you see they help with ride height and you dont bottom out ;-) as others said a shock rebuilt AND new springs wouldve been better- know its always bout $$ btw what i MISS is- do they offer different spring rates?? example- for my ktm rear shock i can order like 4 different spring rates !
So I said in the video the shocks were fully rebuilt with fresh oil the same time I put new springs on. Springs do absolutely define your ride quality as well as ride height. Shock therapy asks you like 2 pages of questions about your riding style, weight, do you have a passenger a lot, tire size, do you carry a cooler etc. very detailed and then they choose the spring “rate” for you. I’m not saying they’re bad, just not a huge improvement from stock. Thanks for watching.
Walker shocks are very mid, very little adjustment
Wat exhaust is that
It’s After Market Assassin’s . Came with the machine. Not sure what it’s called. Has 2 exits, if you have them both open it’s freakin so loud. Just right for me with the upper (straight pipe mode) closed. Thanks for watching.
sorry but it looks like you just got a spring kit not a full shock rebuild
Thank you for reminding me how annoying UTVs are.
A lot of bikes there? Is a sxs a bike to you?
No couple of my riding buddies have ATV’s. Thanks for watching and sub.
@@twistedsxs2426 gotcha. It’s still funny to hear people say that they are riding their sxs. I guess it’s true in a way, but people don’t say their riding their cars.
I had s.t do revalve,springs. ProR4 does not ride better than stock...