The Real Middle Earth - LORD OF THE RINGS DOCUMENTARY (Narrated by Sir Ian Holm)
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In The Real Middle Earth, Sir Ian Holm (Fellowship of the Ring, Alien, Chariots of Fire) narrates a fascinating exploration into a world that, although imaginary, seems so real we pore over its maps and contemplate the journeys made from one place to the other.
The film takes us In Tolkien’s footsteps and investigates the landscapes and buildings, places and names that helped shape Middle-earth.
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I live on Orkney and when I read the books I always picture Orkney, I have an amazing view and I can almost see the fellowship walking across the land. The lord of the rings belongs to all of us, its where ever you think is it and it means whatever you think it means. That's what makes the book so good, anyone can pick up the book and enjoy it. And its why so much modern fantasy fails, these books are telling you what to think and linking itself to modern times. The lord of the rings is timeless and that will always make it popular with readers from all over the world.
I enjoyed this doc very much! Thanks a million! Tolkien is a father of millions of dreamers and believers .
So well put!
Amen.
As soon as you first read or watch Lord of the rings you straight away pick up on the beauty of the nation of England and the English way of life. Also the nation of Wales who's people was a long time ago known as elf. You pick up on the black Country (industrial part of England). My daughter's, granddaughter and myself have deep appreciation for Tolkiens art. Its also so nice to actually hear my nations name of England used. Which sadly like her Countryside is being taken away. For those who don't understand that sentence many people wont say England which became a nation in 927AD, but call her britain or the british which is a collective of islands and nations but NOT infact a nation or nationality its self. Thank you for a very enjoyable documentary. From kent once known as the garden of England. 🌹🏴
@woooudo it is - well spotted.
You should track down George Orwell’s - Coming up for air. It deals with the great changes of England & modern society compared to the old pastoral ways.
@woooudo very true hehe! I might also add I was scheduled to work on the films myself as an artist. Painting the miniatures to be specific. Or bigiatures as they were known 🤣 unfortunately my mum got sick so had to decline the contract. It was signed & I had a relocation allowance check. Weta ( a small unknown company at that time in 99 ) immediately tore up the contract. Very decent people.
'Elf' is an old Germanic/Norse word. Not Welsh.
@woooudo sorry my friend, I didn’t have any more to do with the project. I kept in contact loosely with a few artists at Weta though. Unfortunately they went mostly digital after this. One of the pre production guys loved my organic style for King Kong environments. But I wasn’t up to date digitally enough and had to admit it and decline that gig too ( I have since worked on my digital stuff 👍🏻 )
I was born in Birmingham not far from where Tolkien lived, my Grandfather went to the same school as Tolkien. In that area of Birmingham the slang name for cotton wool was "Gamgee". I read the Hobbit when I was thirteen and I loved the name Thorin Oakenshield, because I was told as a child if Oak, Ash and Thorn trees are seen growing together you were sure to see fairies. Tolkien would have known of this and so named his Dwarf.
Tolkien was doing what he loved - writing. Nothing more, nothing less. Little did he know he would capture so many hearts and imaginations... he could only hope to do so.
People usually do their best work by accident.
that is an accident lasting his entire live, his work was deliberate, grandiose, traditonal and imaginative
Good lord! You whiteys really get pompous whenever in presence of the English.
By deliberate accident.
Imagine that we understood mankind's history with the same affection and curiosity.
These documentaries are awesome..
Thank you for sharing, Janson Media..💖
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Tokien really did have the ability to craft mental landscapes that truly transport you to that place, and the Shire just filled me with a sense of beauty and serenity. I could *feel* it, and it was a wonderful experience.
Pendle Hill definitely has a Weathertop vibe about it….
My favourite books and films of all time..I honestly never get fed up reading and watching about Hobbits and TLoTR ❤
I grew up in the West Country in England and after reading Lord of the Rings at the age of 12 could feel the Shires in the woods, meadows and farmlands around me. The shires resonate with rural England and in particular reflected the rural Midlands (since industrialised) that Tolkien grew up in. I think it is the familiarity of the Shires that draws us into the book as it feels cosy and homely and grounds the story in a real place. The hobbits ate potatoes, apples and carrots - fruits and vegetables found in Britain and the rest of northern Europe. The creative brilliance of Tolkien is that he was able to create real worlds that felt authentic and somehow familiar, even amongst the other worldliness of the elves and the mystical power of wizards.
This was excellent. Thank you!
Brilliant production with Ian Holm (the original Frodo in BBC radio series). Much thanks for this one especially. Cheers.
This is so peaceful and relaxing. I like the ambience sounds, the birds and such
I'm going to trade a clever youtube comment for a standard compliment: the comedy and editing in this one is tops.
When Tolkien wrote his books naturally used the landscape where he grew up to describe the safety and atmosphere of the shire with its simple down to earth population. I guess most people will describe their childhood as a safe and good place to be. Now Tolkien we’re not an ordinary person because he was obsessed with language. When he created the various people that lived in middle earth he first came up with their language which is an unusual approach to writing a story. He missed a British folklore/epos/fairytale like he found in Norse and Finnish culture. That is probably one of the the reasons why he learned to speak Finnish. I Finland they have this national epos called Kalevala. Here you will find a wizard that resembles Gandalf his name is Vainamoinen. There are also many bad characters and a horn that everybody wants that is called Sampo. From Sampo came an endless stream of gold and grain that is why everybody wanted it. In Norse mythology there are both elves and dwarfs and some oak like creatures called Jotuns. The dwarfs were handy and made all kinds of wonderful and sometimes magical things. One of the dwarfs Andvare has a powerful golden ring. When the ring was taken from him he cast a powerful spell on it so that anyone that owned it would be killed because of the ring. Sure enough anyone that has this ring in his position gets murdered. Often by near relatives or friends. Like so many other authors Tolkien got inspired by these stories and weaved them into his own stories.
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He started that book numerous times. Who can say what he was thinking. He wrote a magnificent book which is very hard to read. I read it once a year and find new things everytime I read it. Nobody has ever written a book like this man has.
I've read them all many times since I was about 12 years old, that was more than 40 years ago.
Having grown up outside of Dallas, Texas, and watched the spread of masses of people take over many quiet country places, that were cross between farmland, and ranches raising cattle.
Here once more after fleeing the crowds of people, houses, and industrial parks.
I find myself once more being swallowed by man's greed, by that I have discovered that when the older generations that refused to sell the family farms and ranches.
Yet as they start dying off, the those of their children quickly sell off for what they consider substantial amounts of money to they're shallow greedy minds.
The developers, the hyper greedy are the greedy ones, as they make many times over the pitiful amounts they paid those of the one's that had worked these lands for several generations.
With the thought that they were preserving the lands of their parents, grandparents, and great grandparents before them for their great grandchildren, and hopefully many more after those.
Yet as soon as the last one left is gone, the lands are almost immediately sold off.
At the rates that these lands are being developed, won't be too many more generations left that raise the foods that have fed our country for many many years will be all but gone.
Then the giant hydroponics growers will be all that's left in the world to feed the people who are left.
So that's always been my take of the stories since first reading his novels.
When everything you know starts to change, and not necessarily for the best in my mind, and many others.
You imagine yourself as one of the characters in the books, and the developer's buying up everything become the evil side of the stories, because of they're greed, and not willing to accept no for whatever it is that they want.
Stopping at nothing to aquire what it is that they want, and it plays along with these lands disappearing faster than one could possibly imagine.
Once quiet country roads with few people, but vast numbers of livestock, and the creatures of the open pastures, as well of the deep forest become entrapped by more and more houses people, but worst of the vehicles that take the lives of these creatures that have been in these places before man was ever seen by a small percentage of their ancestors.
I've wondered many fields, rivers, creeks through deep woods, and seen the end results of mankind on these locations.
I understand that people need a place to live, but it seems that the places where the farmers and ranchers live in harmony with the creatures around them.
Is the places that are bought up for these massive housing projects, and yet the land better suited for nothing but sparse grasses, rocks, that serves no importance towards feeding the masses of people are left unoccupied well after the ground that had the ability to feed ourselves is consumed instantly.
As a youngster I looked at the houses buildings and roads as eating the land taking all the joy from every creature that once lived there.
Those that thought they had gotten a fortune from the sale of the lands that their ancestors had worked tirelessly to make it something to give them when they're turn was to care for the land, raise the foods to feed our country and a home forever for the next generations to follow.
They soon have wasted what money they got for these places is long gone, and now they're surrounded by masses of people they don't know the names of and who knows nothing about them.
The quiet peaceful countryside farmers and ranches will never be again, the people that once knew everyone in the community are long gone with nothing to show for the generations of work.
Is a couple areas, are maybe a street named for them, and some small cemetery surrounded by track homes starting to reach the point where they're determining.
No one comes to tend the grave stones the weeds have taken over, the fence has been mangled by machinery mowing outside the cemetery, the headstones knocked over broken, and all but forgotten except by a few kids wondering late at night.
This is the meaning I take from his stories.
I'm sure everyone one who has read these books has the imagination to see themselves and the places they grew up as the places in his writings.
Im from South Africa and a huge Tolkien fan.
Thanks for posting this
Great documentary. Illuminating and engaging. Thanks.
I remember this book and my mother read it to me when I was a little girl.
This was great ! Thank you
Thank you so much
Thank youuuuuuu!!!!
This narration has the feel of Leonard Nimoy's "In Search Of" series, science searching for the truth.
Of course there's a similarity of Tolkein's Middle Earth landscape, it's the reflection of the Middle Ages, Tolkein's own English childhood, the English Country Shire landscape, English life and culture.. along with spreads of European Nordic language, symbolism, as JRR Tolkein was a traveler himself who spoke or was intimate with many European cultures and languages such as Swedish, Dutch, Finnish, Flemish, German, etc, which were influences he used to write Lord of the Rings.
But JRR Tolkein was more than just an author of fantasy tales, he was a visionary of truth, of morality, defining good vs evil, and engrained this in his literate work, like that of Aesop's Fables moral lessons relating directly to our own world.
One of the most insightful studies of Tolkien’s mode of world building I’ve read.
Bournemouth may be in Dorset, but when Tolkien lived there it was still in Hampshire.... The original Aelfredian Shire.
I am surprised that T. A. Shippey was not mentioned, credited, really. His book "The Road to Middle Earth" is, as far as I know, the first to purpose and support the arguemnt--as as Tolkien's dear friend Lewis might have put it, the apology, that words are the basis of stories. And not only words--languages. For first Tolkien created the languages, then he wondered who spoke those languages and what were their stories.
Thay was very interesting. This was nice to know about the story behind it. Thanks
Man I love these documentaries that are based on real mythology! We are starting to realize just how little we know about our own history, or even the planet we live on. Crazy how you cant find a single photo of our planets poles!
That is by intention. Much if not all which is true, especially of our human origin story, is hidden and suppressed.
That’s because the earth really is flat, the solar system was invented as deception! There isn’t one picture of the earth that is real because it’s not a ball flying through through space, We are in the center of everything!
Nonsense. Stop lying and pretending that there is "secret suppressed knowledge."
Mythology is fun, but please participate in reality too.
Real mythology...
There are literally tons of pictures of them, what are you talking about? You can just google them.
Tolkien spent 5 years in Leeds, I've always wondered if that had an influence. One place I can think of is the caverns in Helm's Deep which as far as I can tell are the similar to the limestone caverns in nearby Yorkshire dales and Derbyshire. The Yorkshire Dales and rolling country in the Vale of York are also a vision of rural England. There's also a few names, Ettenmoors the hills of northern England are often referred to as Moors. The Wolds are low hills in Lincolnshire and Yorkshire. Wetwang is a village in East Yorkshire and another name for Nindalf. The Shire, like Yorkshire is also divided, in Yorkshire's case 3, ridings (from thirdings) rather than farthings.
When Patrick Curry was speaking about other cultures not recognizing English rural life, but their own forms of that, I was reminded that people all over the world see and praise the musical, "The Fiddler On The Roof", in the same way. For example, when the play was first brought to Japan, there really were not that great of hope for its success, but some people had requested it, so . . . Come to find out, many folks felt that this play, about a Jewish milkman and his family, reflected rural life in Japan that many recognized. It's the same with Tolkien's books, in that many see and appreciate the simpler life of a farmer, (at least to those that are NOT farmers), and are wistful that they can't have that sort of life.
Thank you, Bilbo Baggins!
This caused multiple nerdgasms. Thank you.
Thankyou 🌲
Nothing new under the sun, we just need to rediscover.
ReDiscover Jesus Christ and him alone
I have urged the need to rediscover on as many people as I can. It's disturbing to see so many, most of a generation maybe, craving experiences aimed at re-invention in their goal of seeking relevence. They remind me of little wannabe Sarumans and they scorn me as a hopelessly wandering Gandalf holding old values in high reverence.
Middle Earth is meant to be set in the distant past and ancient times before history and the iron age.
no it is not! it is an entirely different world to our own, just based on northern, western Europe!
@@adriansmith3427 no, it’s our world. Tolkien is candid about that. The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings are meant to be translations of The Red Book of Westmarch to our tongue
@@TheDjn8 The Red Book of Westmarch is a clever employment of a popular medieval trope. The idea being that to base a story on an older work provided credibility for the newer work. To an extent, we do the same when comparing a great athlete of modern times with a great athlete of a different age.
Middle earth is also old English for everything on this of (physical, 3 dimensional realm) life. And so in that way of speaking they thought that when we all pass away we'd leave Middle earth in one of two directions. Or as Mr Tolkien pt it (board the ships that leave middle earth).
One man's horror is another man's fantasy...It's truly a strange, wonderous, and definitely mysterious planet human beings currently call home.
I bought used 1st printing of every book in LOTR, including The Hobbit, they were barely used, and later the DVD series. Best books and films on the planet. Absolutely.
Perhaps (not trying to beat the allegory-horse further), the shire and the hobbits can represent childhood, and the plot being a sort of “coming-of-age” story
10:53 - Now I know why the Gaffer didn't like the miller much. 😊
Do any of you aficionados realize, like I did, that the entwives are in or near the Shire?
There are two clues in the books. In the Fellowship, when the hobbits are gathered at the Inn and they are telling a story that someone, I forget who at the moment, saw “a tree walking” and everyone made fun of him. “There aren’t no trees on the north moors”, another said, and (I think it was Sandyman) said “Then he can’t have seen one” and everyone laughed. Now, what do you suppose that walking tree was if not an entwife?
And then later in the books, when Treebeard is describing the Ent’s history to the two young hobbits, he says to keep an eye out for the entwives, “for they would like your country”.
I conclude the entwives emigrated to land near the rich soils of the Shire to build their lovely, wonderful gardens.
Tom Bombadill would know.
@@paulrevere2379 I don’t know her.
@@bugpal I don't think the entwives ever crossed the mountains. The old Forest would appeal to the ents, but not the enwives who would probably favor the Shire proper, but then even the Dunedain would know something about them.
I think they were lost for good unless they survived by moving far far to the east, but that's a very hostile region
@@paulrevere2379 That does not explain the walking tree seen in my first paragraph. And perhaps the entwives REALLY did not want to be found. Also the books are not perfect (but close!) and not actual history, so I will stay with my belief that they lived out their history in the Shire. :-)
Fantastically beautiful 🤩
'Tolkien disliked allegory and warned against looking for it in his writing,' and so that is exactly what we'll be doing here in this documentary.
The Shire lays in Flanders Fields and Beyond 😢
I wouldn’t be surprised if he knew that as the years went by
Totally true, we call the shire where live here in Northern Catalunya... 😅
Lotr is my comfort
Everyone knows that Pendle Hill in Lancashire is Weathertop, he went to Stoneyhurst college as a boy, that area is the Shire
There was one aspect of the Tolkien's writings that is not English in inspiration and that is the mountains. In 1911 at the age of 19 he traveled with a hiking group to the Swiss Alps. So, he had some real experience with mountains and the rapid change of weather that can be very threatening almost immediately. This rapid weather change is found in his stories of the Misty Mountains in the Hobbit and in the Fellowship of the Rings. Mountains are often ominous and to be avoided if possible even at the risk of underground passage such as at Moria.
I live in a far away land from England on the Olympic peninsula of Washington state and see snow covered glaciated mountains almost daily. It is strange sometimes to see such a different landscape and weather where it is snowing on the slopes of the high peaks and at the same time to be in the sun at the base of the mountains. Tolkien knew that reality.
The unaudible statement that was made weather they met in C. S. Louis' rooms. C. S. Louis was another writer and friend of Tolkens
-8:27 "...a mind of metal and wheels..."
Also, if it weren't for Tolkien, there would be no "Carress Of Steel" album by RUSH.
Never forget JRR fought in the World’s most fearful battle; The Battle of the Somme with who? The Lancashire Fusiliers (Incidentally Uk’s most decorated regiment ((7 VC’s before breakfast)) before u say the Lancashire connection is ‘tenuous’..
It was based on various locations in Galway Ireland
I like the narrator
The English country side is beautifully represented. I definitely see the Shire as English and I'm international.
Very interesting🍻👍🇳🇿
Where can I get the music soundtrack for this???
Middle Earth is stuck in the 1800's and 1900's. They have the light bulb and electricity and solar and yet no cars.
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So as I set slapping my belly which is the white ogre as my nose pores blackened and twist I see and sense that Michael a. Q has become a shadow and twist in the mirror in the corner of my eye as I listened to the birds of the morning rock and roll through and tell Dawn
Bag End always felt as if it ought to have been at the end of a GWR branch line, with a train every two hours. Naturally it would have been an auto-train with a 1400 class tank engine.
He must have been a Tartatarian deep down inside
If yahll like this. Well id suggest to watch .." Tolkiens fantasy world of Monster's and myths"...from "The clash of the God's !" Its really great lil documentary!!
This would have been much more interesting to listen to without that annoying music competing with the narrative. Regardless of Tolkein's motives in writing the series, it is one of the best reads to get lost in ever written.
"their claim is fairly tenuous." - Why does it have to be one or the other? I think there's no guessing what parts of his history Tolkien drew on. He could mix and match anyway he wanted - maybe it was only the bean plant that got taken from Stonyhurst; maybe it was more. I think it doesn't really matter, and if it pleases someone to think he might have drawn some influence from their home, then I say more power to them. Even just desiring it is honoring Tolkien's achievement.
Definitely not set in East Anglia. The misty mountains would have to be renamed the misty slight inclines.
Couldn't hear a bloody word due to the background (foreground?) "music"
Well, this documentary does help me understand Tolkien better.
However, I assume that it could have been "better" by seeing "Lord of the Rings" as building on "the Hobbit" (including the change in Saruman), and both as situated in the world of "the Silmarillion". Yes, the fall of Númenor does get mentioned in this documentary. But Tolkien would have had to mind "continuity" (a movie-directing term) or "backward compatibility" (a computer industry term).
I admire his grand scheme of Creation, and of how perceived injustice had grow Melkor into evil Morgoth. In the framework of this scheme, he created his Elven stories (apparently rewriting them in a way like musicians record using different "takes" - remember that Ronald Tolkien didn't live to see "the Silmarillion" ready for publication), and in due course he confined himself to writing within those limits. It seems obvious to me, that he would eventually draw from his own memories to describe places (or perhaps their names first), but I doubt if it would be fair to "zoom out" from these memories to his framework.
By the way, I see similarities between this documentary on Tolkien's environment and Christopher Milne's description of the origins of Winnie the Pooh's forest.
Incidentally, I have been writing stories that in the meantime (since 2006) have evolved from short and flat to something more on the scale of "the Silmarillion", and both Tolkien's books and Peter Jackson's film trilogies (with Appendices) have been instrumental in my attention to "continuity". I'm also trying to avoid Tolkien's weaknesses and contradictions - they do exist. I also know this "situation" matter.
Me, I also have tried my hand at language, almost fifty years ago. Not at "sounds like...", but at creating a grammar similar to Latin's. (By the way, I'm Dutch. Born 1956, and familiar with the Dutch translation of "the Hobbit" and "Lord of the Rings" from as soon as my father could buy the books.)
You forgot about The Hobbit Jason Media?
I never hear of LOTR or Tolkien before Peter Jackson’s movie came out in December 2001
Have u read the books? They are the greatest books--& it is the greatest story--ever written or told.
It's the middle Earth time pieces by dark star reception today's homily
Middle earth could be the layer under the cooling lava 🧐.
Tolkien pointed out that he despised allegory, did you think he was kidding, or just mistaken?
We people very much like to tie such things into neat little bows. I accept his statement as made, I need not connect the dots of his writing to his life, which were both extraordinary…
His writing may not have been deliberate allegorical push, but one would be hard pressed to deny that there is a vast amount of allegorical pull to be gained by pondering his words.
Read Maccabees if you want to know how Tolkien really felt about War.
i hate being that guy(no i dont) ...but farmer Maggot didnt shelter Merry, he wasnt in the walking party at that point
Is that like the wizard not giving anything to the tin-man that he didn't already have?
Master Meriadoc Brandybuck and old Farmer Maggot both did know a few things about the old forest not commonly known to other hobbits. Somebody (not a hobbit) even stated that old Maggot had both eyes open. For a hobbit that's saying something.
I really wanted to listen through this. I tried twice. The loud wet mouth sounds from the interviewees drove me batshit before I could finish it. >.
It's a book. Superbly written courtesy of a majestic imagination. But it's a book. That's it.
Same with "A Christmas Carol"? Merely a Novella? My, if that be so, you know naught about Dickens, just as your comment shows you know nothing about Tolkien. On the other hand, by and large, you can make that argument for nearly everything Christie penned.
Oa shire is paaaaaarticularly a root crop particular a tho
Scandinavia Fylke are a village in Norway and Finnish langues deep forests are Scandinavia Some part I belove for he was here So Have memories from Scandinavia 🤔✌️🙏❤️🇪🇺🇸🇪
Can someone send this to amazon to watch lol
@woooudo Exactly. That's why they need to be sent this to watch to understand why no body wants them to destroy lotr with their crappie TV series.
The heart is NEVER comforted by the body.
"The body has no fear of eternal consequences" - John Calvin
@@paulrevere2379
Because the body rots on Earth.
And Christ alone Judges the human heart, unless the soul is dead. The latter is the Eternal Fires where your screams never end. Christ decides where the heart and soul reside otherwise Forever. No human on Earth.
Anti The Negatives of Modernism and Industrialism
It’s how these things are used
Such as the Train over the Car
I wonder what this guy thinks of the upcoming dumpster fire The Rings of Power
Some good info, but I get the sense that these people disdain the books' success, don't understand it, and are desperately trying to make sense of it, because it astonishes them. These aren't people who get it. Furthermore, it seems a bit like an England puff piece, rather than an earnest attempt to understand the LOTR saga itself. The LOTR has not that much to do with the Shire, and thus England. That was the starting place.
Many of the places, events, and characters are based no Scandinavian history. For example, Gandalf was a name of a Swedish king. The concept of the magic golden ring itself, I believe comes to us most recently through the German "Niebelungen Lied." The reference to the Riders of Rohan as "Anglo Saxons with horses" fails to take into account that the 'Aryan' step peoples who spread their culture throughout much of the old world, including India and Europe, were the original tamers and riders of horses, with a basically Anglo Saxon culture and appearance. That was more likely the reference, rather than a whimsical conjoining of two unrelated themes. These were the people of the Caucasus mountains region, from whom we get the name "Caucasian." Genghis Khan was a later leader of these people, as was a probably historical chieftain named Odin, who led his people to the present day Scandinavian peninsulas, later deified as their chief god.
The Island of Numenor is a _clear_ allegory for Atlantis.
Tolkien's knowledge of both histories and mythologies was vast. These people only seem to be interested in references to places in England from Tolkien's youth. If the film were entitled "The Real Shire," that would be appropriate to the subject matter. But 'Middle Earth' _clearly_ does not refer even mostly to England. For example, just south of Middle Earth were the Southron regions of the Harad, where lived Oliphants(Elephants). That's obviously Africa, to the north of which is Europe, not England.
Furthermore, far in the south of Middle earth were the twin cities of Gondor(west) and Minas Morgul(east). Both had once been cities of the western 'good guys,' but the Eastern one fallen to the Dark Lord of the East. Bearing in mind that Tolkien was Catholic, that sure sounds a LOT like a reference to Rome/Vatican(west) vs Constantinople/Istanbul(east) home of the Eastern Orthodox Church with their own Eastern Pope/Arch-Bishop(Dark Lord) subsequent to the split of the Church. Their locations in Italy and the western tip of Turkey match perfectly that of Gondor and Minas Morgul if Middle Earth is Europe.
@ brindlebriar As to questions about the source of the ppl of Rohan, it is Hama who says to Gandalf, just before allowing him & his friends into Meduseld, "'I believe you are friends and have no evil purpose. You may go in.'" Compare to what the coast guard says to Beowulf and his party when he grants them entry to England. "I believe what you have told me: that you are a troop loyal to our King" (290-91). Tolkien knew Beowulf inside and out. And, in one of his two most respected academic works, On Beowulf, the Monsters and the Critics, he holds that the Anglo Saxons went into their battles not with faith, instead with courage.
Courage, far more than faith, drives the hobbits. When Frodo awakens in the barrow, what quickens in him? Tolkien as thru the narrator does not write "faith". He writes "courage". Indeed, he calls it a seed of courage that even Frodo knew not that it lay within him.
Another point you leave out, and this is in one of his best known letters found in "The Letters of JRR Tolkien" is his own admission that he longed for a "myth for my home. For England". He goes on to describe how he wishes to write it. With the great connected to the small. Perhaps the best example of this is first the marriage of Arwen to Aragorn, FOLLOWED BY the marriage of Rosie to Sam.
@@ericrobertson3145 Though it comes down to us written in Old English, the epic poem/story of Beowulf, takes place in Denmark, and its hero of that name comes form Sweden. So it's a Scandinavian tale about the Scandinavians in Scandinavia, which the English recorded.
Likewise, btw, it's not clear that the King Arthur stories didn't originate in France rather than England. Sir Lancelot du Lake, for example, means Sir Lancelot 'of the lake' in French.
Perhaps it is for these reasons - that the English tales are not originally English - that Tolkien wished to create a myth of England, as you point out.
But The Lord of the Rings certainly does not seem to take place an an allegory for England, once the Hobbits leave the shire; but rather in an allegory for Europe in its entire, as judging form the many, many cultural and mythological references.
@@brindlebriar Sorry--not too sorry--the story comes to us from both traditions. At heart, it's norther European.
The shire was inspired by rural England. Tolkien found the term middle earth from an old English poem but it’s not entirely inspired by England.
I wonder if he saw a likeness to genesis in the Bible and the taking of the tree of Knowledge of good and evil in Eden and the casting out of man. Middle Earth is an Eden before the war
I like the subject and the text, but the music is so empty, repetitive and obnoxious I cannot listen to it. Big disappointment.
It’s like there getting ready for firing squad at the beginning.
It was our world before the floods
Which flood? The flood that inundated Nashville. That occurred in the early 1920s. Herbert Hoover was called back from Europe to lead the relief effort to that GREAT flood. You can look it up.
You are right. These “intellectuals” have no clue.
The same thing on earth with me- lucifer and god. Everyone on the planet would have benefited had you all just been grateful. Baxter- he could have brought Mariah to his universal planet- he wanted her in Isadore with me. Everyone in Isadore benefited from the building of the musical program. We were always excited with anything that Mariah became interested in because her father would come and build. A few courses were built by him when she became interested in exploring- Arial paired often with the including of the animals in each program. "I wish we could have all of the universal gods in ISadore at all times". My wish has finally come true.
Ha! Bilbo narrating a documentary about Middle Earth?!
Well, he's played both Frodo and Bilbo. There's a BBC radio series adaptation from the 80s (well worth a listen - it's on Audible) in which Ian Holm was Frodo. Peter Jackson was familiar with it, which is why he wanted Ian Holm in his version.
Where ? Different for every reader Iam sure . My middle earth isnt on any island let alone an english one
I'm talking about the book the hobbit.
There were giants in the earth in those days and also after that: Genesis:6:12.
When i think of Tolkiens middle earth. I think of the inner earth and, or, of the covered up North pole region. Where there are actually 4 islands and a giant magnetic mountain, (mount doom) right in the middle... of the earth...
Anyway thanks so very much for this documentary. I wasnt aware of it and i am thoroughly enjoying it mate... Belter!
False.
Stop watching Gaia or Ancient Aliens or any BS like Graham Hancock. There's no truth to what you wrote. Or any if the above. If you're interested in things like that stick to the professionals who actually know what they're talking about. If you can show you with actual evidence that those sort of things are a bunch of bunk and why they are.
Britain has had centures of invasion-free developments. The wide response to the trilogy (and a lot of other cultural exports), and to it's english shading, was rooted abroad in a shared feeling of possibilities lost, of routs not taken and mines of Moria collapsed - elsewhere. A pang of longing, and of envy. Then Britain voted for Brexit, and the picture was: You eloped, with our shared pasts, our grandparents images, family silver in your backpocket.
I thought the movies were shot in New Newzealand.
Narrated by Bilbo himself.
Where is the supremacy of 'the last alliance of men and elves.' This alone proves that the basis is working together to defeat a common evil.
Same narrator as dragons a fantasy made real
Tolkien was spot on about industrial society. Feeling a bit warm lately?
Too bad about the aspect ratio.