jeff bauer how is your camaro now, long term update any reliability issues or problems like electronics? I’m thinking about getting one as well I agree not bad for the money gm has gone a long way with the v6 performance wise
You know what I love about MW they show the car the full time. Today so many people are trying to be the star of the video so you have to look at them more than the products.
+cadsux Congratulations! You should have no regrets. I'm a fan of both cars. I think both are awesome. Design wise I can't decide which is better. Only performance wise the Camaro seems slightly better, but I can assure you that 0.2 of a second to 60 doesn't make a difference in the real world. Have a great time in your Mustang! That's all that matters.
+cadsux new vs new price is almost the same. Just wait couple of years. Although this is the sporty option, I am still undecided which one I want to actually own.(Mustang is more practical and tuning parts are cheap)
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@5:12 the engine noise sneaking into the cabin is intentional by design. On the v6 engine there are tubes that run from the engine directly to the firewall so that the sound is augmented closer to the cabin. And for the I4 turbo LTG engine the sound of the engine is ‘enhanced’ when you also add the technology pkg w/Bose 9 spkr, where the sound is coming from the stereo in sport mode. In tour mode the sound is disabled.
I think V6 muscle cars deserve more recognition. In the early days, most of these muscle cars had pitiful inline-6 engines from standard (not like folk generally bothered since the more powerful ones remained cheap), but today even the V6 versions are fast enough for most people.
+Mize Z I tend to agree. I like the new Camaro, but it's styling isn't quite a home run like the new Mustang is. The performance though? Killer. +scott9050 He does not.
Used to sell the Gen 5's. Not a bad car if you can get by the poor visibility and blind spots. Used to sell Mustangs till 2013 too. Haven't driven either of these new bodies, but from what I hear they are both fantastic pony cars.
USA production, great! The front quarter plastic seam is too high, very noticeable on light colors, silver, white & yellow. A+ on lowering the black plastic on the rear.
I've always been a mustang guy, but this car might change that. It looks really good in my opinion, better than the current gen Mustang. Looks Like I got a new dream car.
@black ice 2018 Camaro 1LT. HOT Red. It's got 36k Miles on it. RS package. I plan to Get Black Rims once I have the $$$. Then possible get the RD Spoiler replaced with a black one. Then a Black Splitter
@Alexx nice. Are you getting the 16-18 blk 5 spoke wheels ir the current '19+ blk spiral 20" wheels? Cuz imho, those fit the camaro best. But it's your car. The graphics front splitter with the small blk spoiler? I can see the finished result
Camaro SS starting just under 38k. Mustang GT starting just a little over 33k. Yes you get a lot more in the base SS than the base GT, but at least Ford gives the option to the buyer for an old school barebones V8 car or the one with all the neat-o gadgets and leather (though what comes base in a car these days is pretty damn nice if you ask me). If Ford didn't have a 33k GT, I would not have been able to afford a V8 Mustang and just wouldn't have bought one. I think GM would be smart to offer a less-optioned SS for around the 34k mark, even if they are only available special order, they won't price out folks who are kind of on the fringe money wise, but won't own a Camaro with anything less than a V8.
+Blake Swan Bought a 2016 SS a month ago. Styling is subjective, so can't argue that (though it looks awfully good to me in person) but you're right about the outward visibility. It's definitely not an easy car to see out of. But, they do now have blind spot monitoring, which I stake my life on (I'm hoping it's always accurate because there's very little ability to check it visibly... lol) and have also added oncoming car side monitoring to the rearview camera, so you get an alert if a car is coming and it tells you what side it's coming from. Overall, it's been a fun, good car, purpose-built.
NightcruiserMA i meani guess the take away if you guys are fine driving off an lcd monitor. I prefer to be able to see with my eyes. to each their own but i can play video games at home
+Michael Harris -- All vehicles have smaller, gunslit windows today because of the crash test changes that were made in the early 1990s. Rollover protection standards that did not previously exist mean that a roof must support four-to-five times the weight of the vehicle. That bulking up increased the weight of the vehicles, ruining fuel economy, and causing the need to move to multi-link rear suspension to handle the heft. Ultimately, the poor outward visibility means that you must now have exterior cameras everywhere as well. And the French flag is the reverse order left-to-right... BLUE-WHITE-RED. The Camaro emblem has an All-American arrangement, as... RED-WHITE-BLUE.
+rhino250r mustangs looks like a fusion, its cool looking but not aggresive enough,, motor is a 5.0 wich is not very reliable at all, older 4.6 were lot better, 5.0 has 415hp and ss has 455, camaro engine is lighter and lower mass wich is far better for drivability and fuel economy, camaro engine have lot more meat on the bones so more room for more power adders, except the price ford have lot to do to keep up
+sahiel5 The SS is more than the GT, but comes with more standard features and outperforms it by a decent margin. You'd have to step up the near un-attainable GT350 to get a faster Mustang.
Adam S well it beter be faster since its more expensive but im not shure its worth so much more,especialy if u consider its baisicly 2 seater that u cant see out of... standard equipment is the same - dont even try to bullshiet or justify gm usual and unexplaineble price difrance
***** There is only $4k in price. And you are wrong, the base GT doesn't even have a screen and is missing several other features that the SS has. If you step up to a GT Premium which has essentially the same features, then you end up at essentially the same price (minus the performance). As seen in this comparison the GT actually cost a lot more than the SS. www.motortrend.com/news/2016-chevrolet-camaro-ss-vs-2016-ford-mustang-gt/
Adam S hat u are a troll spaming your gm bullshiet propaganda is cleard ...to determin is are u a lier or just a morron - ther is no screen in standars never was and never will be... and that mustang is a press car so it has every avalible option including track pack... so what is it a lier or a morron?
After Canada helped to bail out the nearly bankrupt GM, they take the production of the Camaro out of Canada. According to MotorWeek, that's where it belongs. Well thanks a lot GM...and to MotorWeek I say...We make great cars in Canada!
looks like a great drive... but hell is that thing ugly! Those hard edges don't flow and the sunken headlights make the front of the car look like it has a window sill or something.
Give it a couple of months and you'll learn to like it. I've found this with almost all new cars that come out now, don't like them at first, but I learn to appreciate thier looks.
Uh, the 4 does 0-60 in 5.4 secs. That's faster than nearly all 4th gen Camaros, Z/28 and SS. It's nearly as fast as the 5th and 6th gen V6. Couple that with much lighter weight and great gas mileage and it's highly appealing. Plus Turbos are fun. Do your research.
In my opinion, this is actually one of the smoothest riding cars I've ever driven. While the braking and gas pedals are smooth, they both can make the car kick like a mule when you use a little extra pressure on them (i.e, trying to merge in on the highway). The engine looks ugly, even to work on, so it probably will not be an easy fix. The manual transmission is smooth however, had no problems changing gears. The only thing that makes me debate about buying it, is visibility, it's near awful. However, the large side mirrors and universal adjustable seats may make up for that, if adjusted correctly.* Personally, I'd give this car an 8.5/10.
I have a 2012 camaro ss I'm a camaro fan boy but if I had to choose between the 2016 Camaro 2016 Mustang or 2016 Challenger I would have to go with the Challenger because in my opinion both the new Mustang and the new Camaro are ugly as fuck the challenger still has that mean aggressive look to it and the Camaro and Mustang just look ugly they both lost that aggressive look that's my opinion
"All new" must really mean the same cheaply slapped together piece of shit that GM has been producing since the mid 90s. No quality at all, hunk of crap.
Just got a 2017 1LT V6.
Hands down the best performing base model camaro ever ! For the money , you can't beat it.
jeff bauer how is your camaro now, long term update any reliability issues or problems like electronics? I’m thinking about getting one as well I agree not bad for the money gm has gone a long way with the v6 performance wise
Yes you can
Lt1?
@@blackice7408 1LT is trim level (4cl or v6 with cloth seats), LT1 is an engine (6.2 L v8)
You know what I love about MW they show the car the full time. Today so many people are trying to be the star of the video so you have to look at them more than the products.
Well said.
I just bought a 2015 Mustang GT. Wish I can afford this too. Oh well, we can't all be like Jay Leno.
+cadsux Congratulations! You should have no regrets. I'm a fan of both cars. I think both are awesome. Design wise I can't decide which is better. Only performance wise the Camaro seems slightly better, but I can assure you that 0.2 of a second to 60 doesn't make a difference in the real world. Have a great time in your Mustang! That's all that matters.
+cadsux new vs new price is almost the same. Just wait couple of years. Although this is the sporty option, I am still undecided which one I want to actually own.(Mustang is more practical and tuning parts are cheap)
Cars are just getting way too expensive.
I have been watching you since the 1990 toronado trofeo. I am so glad you are still doing motorweek. I know you are the best. and I look for you to help me choose what car to buy. Thanks for 20 plus years of car talk
Great job Chevy, I have been happy to see American muscle making a comeback again, even if I don't even drive one!
The camaro is like Honda’s in my area you see one everywhere .
Actually you see mustangs more since they’ve sold more
The turbo 4cyl is a pretty cool trim level. Can't wait to see those boosted crazy!
lexus toyota car designed styles japan made
wow this guy is still,alive
the z28 is gona be epic, I can't wait to see it.
Before, the Camaro was built in Oshawa, Ontario -- just east of Toronto.
@5:12 the engine noise sneaking into the cabin is intentional by design. On the v6 engine there are tubes that run from the engine directly to the firewall so that the sound is augmented closer to the cabin. And for the I4 turbo LTG engine the sound of the engine is ‘enhanced’ when you also add the technology pkg w/Bose 9 spkr, where the sound is coming from the stereo in sport mode. In tour mode the sound is disabled.
Ford, Chevrolet, Dodge choose what you like I'm just happy that's it's fast, fun American performance
we need a 5.3 camaro
GO USA!!! I love the CAmaro....
Love it! More powerful than the new mustang to!
The turbo is the same 4 cylinder that started life in the Saturn Sky Redline and Pontiac GXP Solstice then Cobalt SS turbo from 2008-2010.
I think V6 muscle cars deserve more recognition. In the early days, most of these muscle cars had pitiful inline-6 engines from standard (not like folk generally bothered since the more powerful ones remained cheap), but today even the V6 versions are fast enough for most people.
I'm a Mustang fanboy, and I like the Mustang styling better... but the performance of the Camaro SS is unquestionably superior.
+Richard Joash “RJ” Tan
Do you have a double digit IQ?
+Mize Z I tend to agree. I like the new Camaro, but it's styling isn't quite a home run like the new Mustang is. The performance though? Killer.
+scott9050 He does not.
Easily the best-looking Camaro.
Cant wait for the ZL1 it will be a monster.
You may have not been able to grab performance numbers from an SS, but there's no reason to not have benchmarked the car you did have. SS or not.
Get this and add the NPP Performance exhaust, it's so nice
Wow even the turbo 4 is plenty!!! V6 even better.
I wonder if they will make right hand drive models for us Aussies
Gonna miss the Camaro that was based on the Zeta platform.
I love it !
Used to sell the Gen 5's. Not a bad car if you can get by the poor visibility and blind spots. Used to sell Mustangs till 2013 too. Haven't driven either of these new bodies, but from what I hear they are both fantastic pony cars.
So where is their SS road test? It's been 2 1/2 months.
is this the new one or old one im confused
Sweet car just hate those chrome lines in the grills top n bottom
Idk why this new body gets so much hate I love it
Agreed. I much prefer this design to the previous gen.
so mad was lookin for a new look so as for me and my cash we going MUSTANG GT it jst looks sexy
USA production, great! The front quarter plastic seam is too high, very noticeable on light colors, silver, white & yellow. A+ on lowering the black plastic on the rear.
I just looked at a Chevrolet dealership close to me and hey almost fully loaded automatic SS is running 52k smh
Rear lights looks much better.
American sport car is back!!
0:52, is the Camero chasis designed in AUSTRALIA??
+Lawrence Lo Not the new one, the old one (fifth gen) was developed by Holden.
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Like the fact they have a turbo 4 now!
I've always been a mustang guy, but this car might change that. It looks really good in my opinion, better than the current gen Mustang. Looks Like I got a new dream car.
U still think that today?
@@blackice7408 I bought a Camaro
@@Grey4lif3 good for you. What trim n specs?
@black ice 2018 Camaro 1LT. HOT Red. It's got 36k Miles on it. RS package. I plan to Get Black Rims once I have the $$$. Then possible get the RD Spoiler replaced with a black one. Then a Black Splitter
@Alexx nice. Are you getting the 16-18 blk 5 spoke wheels ir the current '19+ blk spiral 20" wheels? Cuz imho, those fit the camaro best. But it's your car. The graphics front splitter with the small blk spoiler? I can see the finished result
Camaro SS starting just under 38k. Mustang GT starting just a little over 33k. Yes you get a lot more in the base SS than the base GT, but at least Ford gives the option to the buyer for an old school barebones V8 car or the one with all the neat-o gadgets and leather (though what comes base in a car these days is pretty damn nice if you ask me). If Ford didn't have a 33k GT, I would not have been able to afford a V8 Mustang and just wouldn't have bought one. I think GM would be smart to offer a less-optioned SS for around the 34k mark, even if they are only available special order, they won't price out folks who are kind of on the fringe money wise, but won't own a Camaro with anything less than a V8.
the SS 6 speed is the one to buy.
+SANIC With magnetic suspension, and variable exhaust.
Adam S almost forgot
+SANIC apparently the 8 speed automatic is better acceleration and speed wise
Mezz Does Games not apparently, the 8 speed is way faster
Just boring
+AllyourBaseArebelongToUs - I'll take the automatic thanks. Not interested in on the clutch, off the clutch, repeatedly in traffic.
Ext styling and Terrible outward visbility kill it for me.
Richard Joash Tan Anime was cool in sixth grade dude. get serious with your life choices
+Blake Swan Test drove the 2016 V-8. Visibility was fine and now they have added blind side monitoring. Just saying!
+Blake Swan Bought a 2016 SS a month ago. Styling is subjective, so can't argue that (though it looks awfully good to me in person) but you're right about the outward visibility. It's definitely not an easy car to see out of. But, they do now have blind spot monitoring, which I stake my life on (I'm hoping it's always accurate because there's very little ability to check it visibly... lol) and have also added oncoming car side monitoring to the rearview camera, so you get an alert if a car is coming and it tells you what side it's coming from. Overall, it's been a fun, good car, purpose-built.
NightcruiserMA i meani guess the take away if you guys are fine driving off an lcd monitor. I prefer to be able to see with my eyes. to each their own but i can play video games at home
+Blake Swan outward visibility killing it me for me as well. How can Gm be so stuipid when it comes to this aspect
Waiting for the car to depreciate
Not a fan of the yet smaller green house out the windows or the French flag on the fenders.
+Michael Harris -- All vehicles have smaller, gunslit windows today because of the crash test changes that were made in the early 1990s. Rollover protection standards that did not previously exist mean that a roof must support four-to-five times the weight of the vehicle. That bulking up increased the weight of the vehicles, ruining fuel economy, and causing the need to move to multi-link rear suspension to handle the heft. Ultimately, the poor outward visibility means that you must now have exterior cameras everywhere as well.
And the French flag is the reverse order left-to-right... BLUE-WHITE-RED. The Camaro emblem has an All-American arrangement, as... RED-WHITE-BLUE.
I want a Subaru. "Love" its what makes a Subaru a Subaru (self inflicted gunshot sound)
why did they change the camera to a 4 cylinder? but the car looks way better
+Ben Pepke I think the 4 cyl cameras have more megapixels or a better flash. Or someone said it has a faster zoom...
It's actually Camarillac
I can already see it aging prematurely as I'm watching.
It looks better than previous years but the mustang looks a lot cooler. Plus the mustang has a better motor and better overall reliability.
+rhino250r mustangs looks like a fusion, its cool looking but not aggresive enough,, motor is a 5.0 wich is not very reliable at all, older 4.6 were lot better, 5.0 has 415hp and ss has 455, camaro engine is lighter and lower mass wich is far better for drivability and fuel economy, camaro engine have lot more meat on the bones so more room for more power adders, except the price ford have lot to do to keep up
camaros are ugly and the 5.0 is better and more reliable than than that big gm engine
Juste Dan no. The mustang 5.0 has 435 hp. Know what you are talking about before running your mouth.
so in best case senavio v8 will be 4300 $ more than a mustang - thats alot
+sahiel5 The SS starts at 37k, then the 2SS is 42k. MSRP of course.
+sahiel5 The SS is more than the GT, but comes with more standard features and outperforms it by a decent margin. You'd have to step up the near un-attainable GT350 to get a faster Mustang.
Adam S
well it beter be faster since its more expensive
but im not shure its worth so much more,especialy if u consider its baisicly 2 seater that u cant see out of...
standard equipment is the same - dont even try to bullshiet or justify gm usual and unexplaineble price difrance
***** There is only $4k in price. And you are wrong, the base GT doesn't even have a screen and is missing several other features that the SS has. If you step up to a GT Premium which has essentially the same features, then you end up at essentially the same price (minus the performance).
As seen in this comparison the GT actually cost a lot more than the SS. www.motortrend.com/news/2016-chevrolet-camaro-ss-vs-2016-ford-mustang-gt/
Adam S hat u are a troll spaming your gm bullshiet propaganda is cleard
...to determin is are u a lier or just a morron - ther is no screen in standars never was and never will be...
and that mustang is a press car so it has every avalible option including track pack...
so what is it a lier or a morron?
After Canada helped to bail out the nearly bankrupt GM, they take the production of the Camaro out of Canada. According to MotorWeek, that's where it belongs. Well thanks a lot GM...and to MotorWeek I say...We make great cars in Canada!
+tim hilton Don't feel bad, everything is moving to Mexico or shipping from China. Does UAW get paid more in Canada than US?
looks like a great drive... but hell is that thing ugly! Those hard edges don't flow and the sunken headlights make the front of the car look like it has a window sill or something.
Give it a couple of months and you'll learn to like it. I've found this with almost all new cars that come out now, don't like them at first, but I learn to appreciate thier looks.
+Richard Joash “RJ” Tan not really shit, maybe arrogance. I am a fine art major FYI...
their hurting themselves trying to keep up with the Mustang lol. They get an E for effort
they gave u the V6 WTF
Nice looking car but too expensive for me.
I LOVE CAMARO 2016 TURBO A LOT
Awesome that it's now made in the us, get ready for crappy workmanship and recalls.
+Paul Zacarias UAW! overpaid, underworked and either stoned or drunk, sometimes both...
Ok this looks like an older camaro tbh
It Seeqs. Looks sice. massive tart " 11
Looks nothing like a muscle car. There’s no hood intake it looks like a Cadillac
'Sophisticated' is a word that should never be used in a Camaro review
I love it. Too bad I can afford a Kia and not this lol.
HAHA. One day bud, one day!
I literally just traded a Kia for this car, in a RS, today. Same color too. You can do it!!
if you're gonna get a Camaro, get the V8
correction. Get the Supercharged
hmm looks kind of bimmerish..the lights..of course this comment is subjective..not a bad design still
GM should shrink and black out every bow tie logo..a much better look for any Chevy car, and especially the sportier ones such as the 2016 Camaro.
HJ, I'M PROUD OF%YOU! ENTERTAIN IGNORANT ! 11
GM really needs to stop fallowing ford.. It would open more opportunities for the car buyer..
it doesnt have that menacing muscle car look anymore..kinda lucks like it whats to compete with 370z and genesis coupes not mustangs or challengers
Still the same hp and beat some cars .... 2024
68% of the lighting colors is a shade of pink. No thanks.
I want to see a V8 one go around the track, not this!
WOW!! It looks like a damn Toyota!!
DON'T BOTHER WITH THE 4 OR 6.
Uh, the 4 does 0-60 in 5.4 secs. That's faster than nearly all 4th gen Camaros, Z/28 and SS. It's nearly as fast as the 5th and 6th gen V6. Couple that with much lighter weight and great gas mileage and it's highly appealing. Plus Turbos are fun. Do your research.
go test drive a 6 before you talk man, they pull.
Get this in an automatic and you just wasted about 35k.
the auto is quicker and has better shift respond than the Manual.
This camaro is beautiful but mustang is a little prettier. In my opinion.
Your mustang fanboy is showing announcer. lol every winning point had to be qualified with "but the mustang..."
In my opinion, this is actually one of the smoothest riding cars I've ever driven.
While the braking and gas pedals are smooth, they both can make the car kick like a mule when you use a little extra pressure on them (i.e, trying to merge in on the highway).
The engine looks ugly, even to work on, so it probably will not be an easy fix. The manual transmission is smooth however, had no problems changing gears.
The only thing that makes me debate about buying it, is visibility, it's near awful. However, the large side mirrors and universal adjustable seats may make up for that, if adjusted correctly.*
Personally, I'd give this car an 8.5/10.
I hate the stubby nosed front end on this car.
Looks better than Mustang.
fyuh
I have a 2012 camaro ss I'm a camaro fan boy but if I had to choose between the 2016 Camaro 2016 Mustang or 2016 Challenger I would have to go with the Challenger because in my opinion both the new Mustang and the new Camaro are ugly as fuck the challenger still has that mean aggressive look to it and the Camaro and Mustang just look ugly they both lost that aggressive look that's my opinion
This design fails there’s nothing retro muscle about it.
boo.....who cares for the v6...lets see that SS!!😈😈😈
it's so ugly and way more expensive then the 5th gen.. more sales for mustang
nasty looking car. looks like a malibu
Looks terrible
"All new" must really mean the same cheaply slapped together piece of shit that GM has been producing since the mid 90s. No quality at all, hunk of crap.
+Richard Joash “RJ” Tan Nice comeback you anime watching loser. Fuck off
The previous model was not great looking. This one is even worse. As far as looks goes
1. Challenger
2. Mustang
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3 Camaro
ugly car