5 CRAZY Borderlands Theories

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  • Theories can get a little crazy with Borderlands, these are just a few that didn't quite warrant their own separate video but could still be neat.
    0:00 Intro
    0:27 Zane saved Zer0
    4:14 Burton Briggs & Captain Scarlet romance
    7:17 Krieg is Tina's Dad
    12:45 Crazy Earl Siren
    16:07 Marcus' Story
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  • @blargblarg7875
    @blargblarg7875 Před rokem +800

    Theory: Marcus is breaking into random kid's homes to tell them this story when they are supposed to be sleeping.

    • @BahamutEx
      @BahamutEx Před rokem +29

      Isn't he talking to an orphan?(it's in the voice line used in this video)

    • @fudgerounds91
      @fudgerounds91 Před rokem +67

      Theory extension: Marcus adopted the orphan to carry on the family business because he himself is sterile after generations of significant lead exposure.

    • @tenacioustbag
      @tenacioustbag Před rokem +8

      Bad Santa

    • @liammclean6047
      @liammclean6047 Před rokem +3

      This Is now Canon

    • @jasonnordine8839
      @jasonnordine8839 Před 6 měsíci +1

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @r1v4l83
    @r1v4l83 Před rokem +852

    Maybe the reason both Maya and Tina are on the coins are becuase they are both replacements to Krieg for the wife and daughter he lost

  • @graywolfdracon
    @graywolfdracon Před rokem +1157

    I remember one of the times when Marcus was telling his story the kid annoyed him and he says something like "You know your adopted right". I always took that to mean he was telling these stories to someone he was raising. After all he comes from a long line of merchants. Maybe he adopted an orphan to carry on the family business.

    • @myfriendscallmejojo
      @myfriendscallmejojo Před rokem +15

      Yes

    • @Ze_N00B
      @Ze_N00B Před rokem +58

      A Mini-Marcus?
      Sounds like a good idea for a quest chain in a future game.
      Maybe he, or she would want to make and produce weapons rather than just selling them and would task you with "freeing up" buildings and structures filled with gangs and psychos.
      The reward could be an increased amount of "on-sale" weapons in Marcus' store.

    • @cheemsman5002
      @cheemsman5002 Před rokem +16

      Scarlet dlc in bl2?

    • @graywolfdracon
      @graywolfdracon Před rokem +4

      @@cheemsman5002 I forget which one it was. That's why I wasn't specific.

    • @jeffbeyer43
      @jeffbeyer43 Před rokem +23

      It was the Zombie Island of Doctor Ned from BL1. I remember the kid asking what a tree was

  • @biohazard724
    @biohazard724 Před rokem +355

    If I remember correctly Zane mentions hating his brothers and being glad they died because they treated him like the runt of the litter

    • @IMNTV
      @IMNTV Před rokem +72

      He also makes a joke abt his brothers constantly trying to kill him and him being the only surviving brother left

    • @MJSGamingSanctuary
      @MJSGamingSanctuary Před rokem +24

      Exactly why Zane probably would thank the other VH's for saving him the hits he probably hated thinking about having to do himself cause they would have been personal.

    • @garra123454
      @garra123454 Před rokem +3

      He hates his brothers baron flynt and captain flynt?

    • @lucasd.garces435
      @lucasd.garces435 Před rokem +2

      @@garra123454 dont you hate them too?

    • @garra123454
      @garra123454 Před rokem +1

      @@lucasd.garces435 not really they are only doing bandit things

  • @bravovince3070
    @bravovince3070 Před rokem +232

    One rare voice line you can get from Mancubus after youve completed the Guns, Love and Tentacles is "you have a dark past and your future...well, beware of this Marcus fellow". This line of dialogue remains extremely overlooked and bizzarely teases a Marcus betrayal.

    • @dwmarch
      @dwmarch Před rokem +65

      Maybe Mancubus asked for a refund?

    • @masterofhippos1395
      @masterofhippos1395 Před rokem +36

      when i first played bl 1 i thought marcus was gonna be the end boss

    • @HelloHelloe
      @HelloHelloe Před 11 měsíci +8

      @@masterofhippos1395 Would have been way cool, maybe that was the plan but players like him too much. General Knoxx's armory could very well have been Marcus in a Mech suit defending his stores warehouse

    • @thatonerotom8999
      @thatonerotom8999 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@masterofhippos1395going in blind I was for sure suspicious of him with those partnership offers

    • @PeonLfg
      @PeonLfg Před 5 měsíci +3

      I consider it a bit of betrayal from Marcus that for his own benefit sold weapons to the Bloodshots to fight againt the crimson raiders.

  • @iambatman238
    @iambatman238 Před rokem +470

    I believe krieg and tiny are not related, but see each other as someone they lost. Krieg lost a child and Tina has no parents.
    Zane...fucking Zane. The dude probably gave up being assassin 1 because he wanted to be a vault hunter. He saw it as a way to get more money and kill who he wanted to kill. Maybe that mission saving zero, changed his prospective on somethings so he dropped his mantle has assassin 1 and decided to make a name for himself as a Vault hunter. That's why in the multi verse he still is the assassin 1

    • @SatirerXIII
      @SatirerXIII Před rokem +5

      learn english

    • @Slayyyaphine
      @Slayyyaphine Před rokem +6

      i'm fucking sick to death of that stupid theory. if it hasn't been officially canonized by now after 10 years as well as after a krieg dlc and entire tiny tina game then it's not canon and probably will never be

    • @fernandogonzalez6759
      @fernandogonzalez6759 Před rokem +7

      well... if that is true... why zero maintain his assassin name zero but also he becomes a vault hunter? so... if zane gave up being assassin one in order to become a vault hunter... why zero is a assassin AND a vault hunter? why zane couldn't be both like zero did?

    • @fernandogonzalez6759
      @fernandogonzalez6759 Před rokem +1

      cuz I don't see why zane need to gave up if zero could be both... just don't have sense

    • @Joe4evr
      @Joe4evr Před rokem +1

      @@Slayyyaphine Yeah, but I *do* think that Tina escaped from the same facility where Krieg was experimented on. *Especially* since in the Fustercluck DLC you can hear Benedict talk about wanting to experiment on some preschoolers.

  • @coryyoung7544
    @coryyoung7544 Před rokem +81

    Tina and kreig feel like it was a storyboard at one point but they switched it to make Roland's death more impactful and that's a hill I'll die on.

  • @cabbagyboi9129
    @cabbagyboi9129 Před rokem +143

    One other possibility for the Zane Assassin One theory: It’s a joke. Zane would 100% be the type to pull that kinda trick, probably giggling to himself the whole time.

    • @IkeFanBoy64
      @IkeFanBoy64 Před 4 měsíci +1

      That is absolutely something he would do.

    • @cashbanucita0025
      @cashbanucita0025 Před 3 měsíci

      True Zane would do it just to screw with someone

  • @patrickborunda4749
    @patrickborunda4749 Před rokem +255

    In reference to #5; There was a book released about the adventures of Brick and Mordicai in which the prolog has Marcus catching a group of orphans trying to rob his shop. He threatens to shoot them with a wave shotgun and the lead orphan asks that he aims for the head as the orphans parents were killed by such a gun that had cut them in half. Marcus was moved by the orphan's story and bravery that he decides to share a story with them. I would believe that these are the same children he is narrating to in the games.

    • @melovespoon
      @melovespoon Před rokem +8

      Jacobs cove

    • @yoda908
      @yoda908 Před rokem +2

      What's the book called? Or are you referring got the borderlands comic books that were released?

    • @patrickborunda4749
      @patrickborunda4749 Před rokem +6

      @@yoda908 The book was a short novel. As to its name, I don't recall it was about 8 years ago that I read it.

  • @gunslinger2566
    @gunslinger2566 Před rokem +120

    Now I'm beginning to think the orphan's parents were vault hunters, at least one of them. That would be the most logical reason Marcus would care of a kid, obligation.

    • @ellie_shrug
      @ellie_shrug Před rokem +5

      And so when they grow up, and inevitably get into a risky job just like their parents, he makes a boatload of cash. Now that's the Marcus we know.

    • @yoda908
      @yoda908 Před rokem +3

      Remember also in borderlands you arrive in in a bus driven by Marcus with the other vault hunters. I believe you also arrive the same way in borderlands 2. So Marcus would look out for vault hunters. Maybe Marcus became close with a vault hunter and one of the vault hunters died and Marcus took him in prior to borderlands 1. I'd actually love to read a tie in novel that explains everything that happened prior to borderlands 1. That also includes what happened to Pandora. There obviously was a big ocean filled with giant sea creatures.

    • @itsvuffu
      @itsvuffu Před rokem +4

      @@yoda908 bl2 begins with the vault hunters surviving a train explosion/crash caused by wilhelm on the orders of handsome jack, as far as I know. but I do think marcus has a soft spot for vault hunters, even if it just started out as him seeing them as an investment opportunity.

    • @bdbdkdfotbrveiw
      @bdbdkdfotbrveiw Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@yoda908in borderlands 2 they’re fighting on a train, and handsome jack setup a dummy and blew the train up. They wake up in a frozen tundra greeted by claptrap

  • @wryyyy321
    @wryyyy321 Před rokem +36

    I think what made Krieg's theory more plausible to me was that in some lines during his raving retribution, it's inferred that the wife died since he states" I can't see her anymore" and how she screams while being tortured. However, while idle his inner voice (sane krieg) questions if "she" is alive or safe after getting away, implying there was two "shes" that he was aware of before going crazy, but one of them got away somehow.

  • @guardianprinny
    @guardianprinny Před rokem +78

    did you know the open books you can come across in BL3 are actually the story Marcus is telling, word for word. even though the words are a bit pixelated

    • @IMNTV
      @IMNTV Před rokem +2

      Seriously??

    • @juicygalaxy773
      @juicygalaxy773 Před rokem +2

      That’s actually sick asf I never knew that

  • @madamthulhu7856
    @madamthulhu7856 Před rokem +99

    the multiverse pack stated that it’s the timeline where the characters continued on their previous path and does so in such a way that it implies zane was already one before retiring

    • @sawyerbarney4194
      @sawyerbarney4194 Před rokem +5

      it means he went on to BECOME one. meaning he wasnt one yet, and in this case wont ever be.

    • @user-ik9ns3gj2b
      @user-ik9ns3gj2b Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@sawyerbarney4194 But if we use Flak's story and his skin in that pack then it would make sense that Zane already was the Assassin One because Flak was the Great Archivarius and then became a Vault Hunter.

  • @screeb.3578
    @screeb.3578 Před rokem +27

    I think that Zane *was* One, not in an alternate universe, but before he chose to retire, and went back to using his birth name publicly. The alternate universe was probably just the “what if??” universe where Zane kept the name “One” and never retired

  • @familialdysautosis2717
    @familialdysautosis2717 Před rokem +73

    We need more Borderlands lore people. It's such a rich world if your able to look past the comedy

    • @Sendmenudedpls
      @Sendmenudedpls Před rokem +4

      people only focus on the tiny flaws instead of the full picture

    • @Dvdh2903
      @Dvdh2903 Před rokem +12

      Been saying this. Behind all the goofyness and humor, there’s actually plenty of lore to dive in to. Not expanded like a game as World of Warcraft, but still interesting lore nonetheless. The Guardians and their intentions. What was the Watcher predicting? Why did the seer manipulate people to the point he wanted the Great Vault to he openend? All loose ends, but all shrouded in mystery, that’s why I like Borderlands; Mindless gun shooting at enemies and exploration of lost ECHO, Hunts, etc to reveal piece by piece what is/was going on. Lotta people ignore this fact, and indeed, only look at the flaws of the game rather then put some research in it.

    • @familialdysautosis2717
      @familialdysautosis2717 Před rokem

      @@Dvdh2903 For me it's the history of the corporate wars. We know there was a Corporate war when a "Central Government" collapsed. There's so much possibility there. Not to mention the connection of Sirens. What are they? If my theory I've had for awhile is correct, Sirens (or their powers) are from the same dimension as the destroyer, and that where so much connection to him comes from.

    • @Dvdh2903
      @Dvdh2903 Před rokem +4

      @@familialdysautosis2717 I’m active at the Borderlands FANDOM and posted there a potential game/plot for a future Borderlands game; Borderlands Origins.
      What if we, instead of following the story, we get a game that dives into the past. The Corporate wars. We can create our own Corporate “Soldier”. Instead of Vault hunters and their Action skills and powers, we can play as a corporate soldier with each manufacturer their own benefits, skill trees and Action skills.
      We will uncover the collapse, the first arrival on Pandora, wether it be by Dahl or Atlas or by being a spy inside one of those corporations to uncover the secrets Pandora and other planets hold (Beware of Dahl’s presence on nearly any planet)
      There’s so much potential for such a game. And enough replayability. You can choose and create a character from any Manufacturer and instead of a class, any manufacturer has their own Ability and skill ( so in Vault Hunter terms, Action Skill and Skill tree )
      Been thinking about that lately. If they do it good, it could work extremely well.

    • @Dvdh2903
      @Dvdh2903 Před rokem +2

      @@familialdysautosis2717 Another one, since I expect no Origins game like that will come in the near future. But a potential plot for Borderlands 4 is a Siren class that can Phasewarp. Which means, the Siren can willingly travel between Dimensions, Future and past. Maybe after Borderlands 4 we need to travel back in time to corrwct a certain timeline. This timeline would be in the time the Corporate Collapse/War happend and the Borderlands: Origins Would play right after Borderlands 4. Just theories but so interesting to think about

  • @GG_Metl
    @GG_Metl Před rokem +193

    The reason I believed Tina and Krieg are related is from 2 DLCs
    In the valentines headhunters pack, if you play as Krieg during the love potion scene. He’s describes someone that sounds like Maya and Tina.
    The other is in the torgue dlc. If you go to Tina’s trailer and look at the back you can see Tina riding on someone’s back. This person is missing an eye, similar to Krieg.
    Does this mean they are related, no.
    Do I still want it to be the case, yes

    • @rehank3695
      @rehank3695 Před rokem +7

      I swear they're teasing us on thinking that these two are related, despite having it "denied" that they are. Like why would he mention tiny Tina alongside with someone he felt so close with, like Maya? And then we see the same premise with the gold coins in his dlc?
      Boy if they won't drop the act in BL4, I'll riot

    • @alternator7893
      @alternator7893 Před rokem +15

      When Moxi ask’s Krieg if he loves someone hi says: “the Tiny one and the crying mother”, that’s confirmation right there.

    • @dumbidiot1119
      @dumbidiot1119 Před rokem +1

      @@alternator7893 who is the crying mother tho?

    • @bingusreal
      @bingusreal Před rokem +3

      @@alternator7893 how is that confirmation at all though?

    • @GG_Metl
      @GG_Metl Před rokem +20

      The quote is “THE TINY ONE AND THE SAD-FACED MOTHER AND THE BLUE TATTOO FOREVER AND EVER!”
      The tiny one: Tina
      The sad-faced mother: Kriegs wife (maybe?)
      Blue tattoo: Maya

  • @garygrim9235
    @garygrim9235 Před rokem +10

    I believe Zane does state in game that he and his brothers didn't get along due to them being bandits and him not following the "family business"

    • @IMNTV
      @IMNTV Před rokem +2

      Zane would be the most dangerous bandit of the Flynt family

  • @ethbeatthem4836
    @ethbeatthem4836 Před rokem +15

    I think Krieg fit better if he knew Tina parents before the experiment and was one of many families Fleshstick stole and Tina family was sadly just part of the deadly experiment. Krieg being a Uncle keeping this Girl alive.

  • @Strykerx31
    @Strykerx31 Před rokem +25

    Tbh, I always assumed Crazy Earl was a Seraph.

  • @midamulti-tool
    @midamulti-tool Před rokem +88

    Cool video, love this sort of stuff but I'm surprised the Marcus's story theory is considered a theory and not just straight up canon since that's what I thought they were going for with the narration

    • @anthonyazcona3188
      @anthonyazcona3188 Před rokem +5

      holy shit it’s the mida multi tool

    • @Chizzle69420
      @Chizzle69420 Před rokem +3

      Yeah fr. It's not a theory it's literally how it's portrayed in the game.

  • @blazingsonic
    @blazingsonic Před rokem +104

    Axton was straight but a bug made him flirt with male characters so they made him bi.
    Tiny has an eye glitch so fans speculated it's a side effect of her broken sanity.
    Sooo yeah they can recon characters on a the fly like how Lilith get her ass handed to her by Tyreen when she should be able to flame broil Tyreen, I mean it's been said the main reason why the twins never bother to steal Amara's power is because they would get a siren fist to the face.

    • @kysdie9979
      @kysdie9979 Před rokem +16

      1. Lilith was sneak attacked, she was beating tyreen's ass until tyreen sneaked her, 2. Aston being bi was always in consideration until they decided to make it canon when that glitch was discovered

    • @sawyerbarney4194
      @sawyerbarney4194 Před rokem

      @@kysdie9979 no he wasnt? it was the bug and they said it too. theres Q and As stating it in plan day

    • @dxtrum
      @dxtrum Před rokem +2

      Let's not bring bl3s bad writing into this but yea I generally agree and like the retcons they made to due bugs.
      The lilith tyreen thing is just bad writing tbh.

  • @alexengland2432
    @alexengland2432 Před rokem +4

    In the Borderlands Website Zane is described as a "semi-retired corporate hitman" meaning him being Assassin One is just him before he retired

  • @Doug.b.2
    @Doug.b.2 Před rokem +44

    Borderlands is truly the best anime.

    • @agustinpugliese1715
      @agustinpugliese1715 Před rokem +1

      Yeah, fuck Evangelion, this is top tier writing. Specially Borderlands 3

    • @nightflare_x
      @nightflare_x Před rokem

      Borderlands is the only anime I will watch

  • @humanmale1042
    @humanmale1042 Před rokem +6

    I think zane does mention that he and his brothers didn’t agree on life paths, I swear I heard zane say eh fuck it

  • @sh6683
    @sh6683 Před rokem +11

    Something to add on Tina and Krieg is it’s possible the decision to allude to her being his daughter, but still leave it open is an attempt by the Writers to put the player in Krieg’s emotional shoes. Just how for Krieg his family are always out of reach in his mind, never able to get them back, for us players the truth behind who they are (something fans clearly are interested in) is just out of reach also.
    The line just before the DR Benedict boss fight adds to this too “He called it a tea party” (paraphrased) given its connection to Tina’s Tea party and the possibility such a phrase may have a specific association for her its a clear choice to use it in this context but still isn’t definitive.

  • @MithrilRoshi
    @MithrilRoshi Před rokem +5

    Honestly the keige one still makes sense to me
    He went on a mission to Hyperion and got captured
    Meanwhile Tina and his wife were undefended and flesh stick sold them out
    Then after that Sam 'saved him' and brought them together, of course with his mind likely breaking they became 'Samie' and well she broke him even more.

  • @greyrifterrellik5837
    @greyrifterrellik5837 Před rokem +3

    Nah, it's not weird that Zane wouldn't care about the others killing his relatives.
    The Flynt family's kinda nutty; trying to get eachother killed is just a greeting to them.

  • @Kindledforge
    @Kindledforge Před rokem +2

    It’s an old bit of info but one line i always remembered was kreig saying “martyr for my little one ” but not only does it reference his daughter but the line is triggered when the pull the pin skill is activated

  • @harima9597
    @harima9597 Před rokem +5

    Marcus one about all the games being stories is actually really heartwarmingly cute, but again telling a child about bloodbath murdering quest as bedtime stories sure fitting the whole borderlands theme.

  • @hiimdavis4758
    @hiimdavis4758 Před rokem +6

    for Krieg the reason tina could be on the coin could just be that she's treated him nicely in The Wedding Day Massacre DLC Moxxi ask if there was ever a mister or missus vault hunter and Krieg's response is "THE TINY ONE AND THE SAD-FACED MOTHER AND THE BLUE TATTOO FOREVER AND EVER! " so it could just be cause she is similar to him or idk I'm just guessing

  • @netapel2625
    @netapel2625 Před rokem +15

    My favourite theory is that Davis Pickle kept a copy of the AI that Jack put in the constructor from the Pre-sequel.
    I really want to be able to play or at least see more of him in a future installment.
    Davis Pickle that is.

    • @Poppa_Capinyoaz
      @Poppa_Capinyoaz Před rokem +3

      This franchise needs Jack. The Calypsos were pathetic teenage dreck.

    • @alfalldoot6715
      @alfalldoot6715 Před 10 měsíci

      ​@@Poppa_CapinyoazJack alright had his ending in the story. The Calypsos are dead too so it's not like they're the main villains going forward. I hope they just make a new villain instead.

  • @ArinyaXoriGMVs
    @ArinyaXoriGMVs Před rokem +20

    Another crazy theory that I've seen people cling to is Rhys Strongfork secretly being a siren.

    • @umairashraf5167
      @umairashraf5167 Před rokem +11

      Okay,that is just straight up fan fiction

    • @ArinyaXoriGMVs
      @ArinyaXoriGMVs Před rokem +2

      @@umairashraf5167 ikr but I've argued with people that swore it was gospel truth lol

    • @umairashraf5167
      @umairashraf5167 Před rokem

      @@ArinyaXoriGMVs what evidence do they have?

    • @ArinyaXoriGMVs
      @ArinyaXoriGMVs Před rokem

      @@umairashraf5167 His tattoos. That's it. They don't even look like siren tattoos.

    • @umairashraf5167
      @umairashraf5167 Před rokem +5

      @@ArinyaXoriGMVs plus I'm pretty sure it's been stated that there are only FEMALE sirens ,with Troy being the only exception because he stole Maya's power

  • @bored888222
    @bored888222 Před rokem +4

    Wow those theories are CRAZY

  • @kevinjones2812
    @kevinjones2812 Před rokem +5

    I love everything about borderlands specially the facts about the history of character and the mysteries I mean Borderlands is something unique and way more different than any other games

  • @mrmosty5167
    @mrmosty5167 Před rokem +8

    I remember the description of the side quest “Schemin’ That Sabotage” from the first game mentions bandits selling Eridium on the Black Market (even though it’s spelled with an I). Maybe there was a way for people/Crazy Earl to harvest it before the Destroyer’s defeat

    • @dimentiox80sshenanigans50
      @dimentiox80sshenanigans50 Před rokem

      Could very well be that Eridium has always been part of Pandora, just buried very deeply with only a handful of pockets of it existing on a semi-surface level.

  • @rjcardenas2299
    @rjcardenas2299 Před rokem +4

    Zane’s assassin skin is so cool, makes me really wish this game was third person sometimes….

  • @Moose-mt4ku
    @Moose-mt4ku Před rokem +3

    Well what a great time to hop on CZcams

  • @dxtrum
    @dxtrum Před rokem +13

    You can absolutely make a whole video on Tina being Kreig's daughter it's also def true. If you complete the special objective at the end of the tea party questline in bl2 Tina will say "I still love you"

    • @Lavender_Fox
      @Lavender_Fox Před rokem +3

      she says that to all the vault hunters IIRC

  • @SargeWolf010
    @SargeWolf010 Před rokem +1

    1 of the Tannis echo logs mentioned Tannis giving earl a key and her underwear which I thought was funny 🤣

  • @jaydantastic3529
    @jaydantastic3529 Před rokem +4

    i have a theory about moonstones and why earl was collecting them to support the “crazy earl siren” theory. because it’s established that there’s a vault on elpis AND elpis itself is a vault key, what if moonstones are pieces of the moon that are super charged by eridian energy and maybe crazy earl thought he could use those to sustain his daughter-in-theory

    • @bobrooney3336
      @bobrooney3336 Před rokem

      and on what established facts within the the borderlands universe would you base that on ?

  • @michaelmooney1686
    @michaelmooney1686 Před rokem +1

    The Zane brothers does actually make sense as zane has a voiceline explaining how his brothers tried to kill him in the story

  • @EdwardXbot3
    @EdwardXbot3 Před rokem +1

    Don’t ever stop with borderlands videos.Your stuff is the absolute best out there I’ve watched with much joy and respect for years my friend.Keep up the amazing content.

  • @Bandit-23th
    @Bandit-23th Před rokem +5

    We need an expansion to the lore like runeterra man i NEED IT JUST A SNIFF COME ON

  • @RegencysMyth
    @RegencysMyth Před rokem +1

    Loved listening to this. honestly idk what it is but i feel like your videos are done i dont want to say better than others but more like youll find every little detail and throw it on the table and recap in an easy to comprehend timeline but you tell it in an interesting and captivating way. Love your vids man.

  • @TalkingTigg
    @TalkingTigg Před rokem

    i like the theory of it all being told over again, because a nice little add on to that theory can be roped in to explaining the gameplay, and in all the times you go through the game is just them telling the story a little differently. and I like that.

  • @tempestflare4339
    @tempestflare4339 Před rokem +8

    Just to be aware when you made this theory you were also referencing the group of assassins from Generator Rex. 6 the father figure of Rex is the sixth deadliest man in the world and there's a whole episode about the group of assassins so yeah don't forget that this is also a reference

  • @TheRealGuywithoutaMustache

    Krieg being Tina’s dad is probably one of the craziest yet most popular theories that might just work

    • @Ragnarok-us3tk
      @Ragnarok-us3tk Před rokem

      i hope it turn into cannon, not that it would change gameplay but it would be fun

  • @SneakybeakyScrub
    @SneakybeakyScrub Před rokem +2

    personally i think zero getting sent the message of "one" isnt inherently another assasin of the same type, but a challenge because of what the number 0 symbolizes to him. maybe the writer could also be saying he got his "1" in the hunt for the vault

  • @memegeek1237
    @memegeek1237 Před rokem +8

    I love your content man! Keep going!

  • @youraverageyharnamite5389

    Though the Krieg is Tina’s dad theory is cool, I don’t thinks it’s correct. It’s not the kinda thing gearbox would do and also it’s pretty obvious as seen in the different voices compared to the doctors orders audio logs and sane krieg’s voice are very different.

  • @foofoo3344
    @foofoo3344 Před rokem +2

    Even greedy profit mongers can become softer when they are old and lonely

  • @hushex5150
    @hushex5150 Před rokem

    Amazing to see the channel is back up dude!!’

  • @DDSN
    @DDSN Před rokem +2

    love your videos eruption

  • @fragarar1595
    @fragarar1595 Před rokem

    First of all I love you for playing the hateno village theme love that song so damn much

  • @scantopup2226
    @scantopup2226 Před 3 měsíci

    Zane does mention his family when he meets sir hammerlock “families are tricky, my brothers were constantly trying to kill me. Guess who outlived both of them”

  • @jonc.8074
    @jonc.8074 Před rokem +11

    My personal theory has always been that Moxie is a siren and that's why she wears so much makeup.

    • @Guitar-Dog
      @Guitar-Dog Před rokem

      That's a good one

    • @avery9076
      @avery9076 Před 11 měsíci

      You see her without makeup in the Pre Sequel, sadly. I like this one though. It's also a soft rule that Sirens can't/don't hide their markings, for whatever reason.

    • @jonc.8074
      @jonc.8074 Před 11 měsíci

      @@avery9076 You see her in less makeup but not necessarily no makeup.

    • @jr2904
      @jr2904 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@avery9076 Tannis hid hers for a while

  • @melovespoon
    @melovespoon Před rokem +2

    marcus does actually start to warm up to children in bl2 just a small bit in his headhunter dlc, it's not a lot but it's believable this is what snowballs him into telling stories to a child later on

  • @dxtrum
    @dxtrum Před rokem +1

    It would be sick if the next borderlands game started with "story times over" or something like that and you hopped right into the gameplay. New fans might not get it but lowkey that'd go hard af

  • @xSmuggen
    @xSmuggen Před rokem +3

    Would be fun to play as Scarlet in Fourterlands

  • @kellogr2788
    @kellogr2788 Před rokem +24

    Tbh I wouldn't mind Borderlands going into a multiverse story as I just want an excuse for Jack to come back either it could be a version of him who won or a version of him that never went insane. Just to see how the Crimson Raiders would react to his return.

    • @xtensioncordtv1969
      @xtensioncordtv1969 Před rokem +2

      Jack can still come back, imo more naturally, through the Tales From the Borderlands 1 ambigious ending although he'd only be a hologram.

    • @somethingsomewhere4854
      @somethingsomewhere4854 Před rokem +2

      @@xtensioncordtv1969 Robo-Jack would be pretty based can't lie

    • @Dvdh2903
      @Dvdh2903 Před rokem

      Time-warp to the past of the Corporate Wars and Downfall to prevent previous events and maybe even going back in time thus far to the point we meet the “Then still living” Eridians to ask for Knowledge and how to erase or rebuild a current timeline. A Siren could have these PhaseWarp powers. Idk still dope imo

    • @kellogr2788
      @kellogr2788 Před rokem

      @@xtensioncordtv1969 In the end of Tales, Rhys didn't destroy the chip right? So technically Holo Jack could come back by having a character who is a fan of him similar to Prof Nakayama who will do anything to bring him back.

    • @xtensioncordtv1969
      @xtensioncordtv1969 Před rokem

      @@kellogr2788 If I remember right it's left ambiguous because there are two endings. One where Rhys breaks the Holo Jack chip and one where he doesn't. If he didn't then Jack could reappear like you said or simply still be in his hologram form.

  • @LordReddog
    @LordReddog Před 4 měsíci

    This was a great video w/ some interesting theories. I always assumed Marcus was talking to his offspring w/ Moxxie, & the orphan comment was a term of endearment!😳

  • @saltycomet
    @saltycomet Před rokem +14

    I hope in the next main game expansion there's a complete out of left filed event or reveal. That'd be fun. Hopefully it's something no one would expect or think of but it's cool/exciting.

    • @allanbaker3958
      @allanbaker3958 Před rokem

      Here's one, The Destroyer is actually the good guy. And yes, is still alive inside its prison that is the planet pandora. Possibility? Less than .01 percent.

    • @nathanielgarza9198
      @nathanielgarza9198 Před rokem +1

      @@allanbaker3958 that would be cool. However that might skew the original Lovecraftian influence of Azathoth which is blind to the world and would end it if it woke up
      So the destroyer is basically Chaotic neutral

    • @allanbaker3958
      @allanbaker3958 Před rokem

      @@nathanielgarza9198, And how many people know or even care about the original influence?

    • @nathanielgarza9198
      @nathanielgarza9198 Před rokem +3

      @@allanbaker3958 I think a lot of nerds would care about H.P. Lovecraft especially y’know the giant extremely important bit in his mythos
      Personally, the story is already a dumpster fire that it’s not like if they try implementing that twist would ruin it any more

  • @MetaCynical
    @MetaCynical Před rokem

    Marcus is just going around doing his Mercenary Day thing, visiting orphanages and telling stories to the children thus future-proofing his weapon business monopoly when the kiddles grow up and want to go all "Fortune and Glory".

  • @lizardshrine
    @lizardshrine Před rokem

    You got me all hyped for more lore now

  • @BJI82a
    @BJI82a Před rokem +3

    Cool vid I would like to see captain Scarlet as DLC for BL4 or maybe a student of Dr. Zed or Ted or their brother from BL1 the zombie DLC, and how many more BL will we get cause in the 3rd one Marcus starts off saying he’s old how old is unknown but he might be getting up in the years I can’t wait for the first BL4 trailer and I hope it’s soon.

  • @87TIG
    @87TIG Před rokem

    The Zayn log that is found on sanctuary 3 is my favorite thing about Borderlands 3.

  • @chrissandoval7675
    @chrissandoval7675 Před rokem +1

    marcus is a dissociated personality of crazy earl telling stories to his dead/alive child

  • @thegenghischan
    @thegenghischan Před rokem +3

    Imagine a borderlands game where in the beginning, Marcus isn't the one narrating anymore

    • @CantoniaCustoms
      @CantoniaCustoms Před rokem

      Does he narrate wonderlands?

    • @justinb4evnl
      @justinb4evnl Před 19 dny

      I think his stories to the orphan end up preparing the orphan to be the main protagonist in the upcoming war that the watcher predicted

  • @styxwessel5930
    @styxwessel5930 Před rokem

    I've been dreading this video because I KNEW it would have that krieg/Tina theory in it lol. That was my favorite bl2 theory that just didn't have enough evidence and I've seen so much art of the two that it's permanently engrained in my memory.

  • @timbahr1792
    @timbahr1792 Před rokem

    Great theories. All believable when explained like you did

  • @awesomesource12
    @awesomesource12 Před rokem

    I loved the video and the Marcus theory is probably my favourite. Makes me wonder if a lot of the characters will die in the next game

  • @Franz0818
    @Franz0818 Před rokem +5

    Zero- the greatest assassin
    One- (Zane unconfirmed)
    Three- (unknown)
    Four- (Fl4k probably because there’s a number 4 in his name)

    • @Jonzerker15
      @Jonzerker15 Před rokem

      my only issue is that fl4k is a robot with ai
      but then again who’s to say zane’s family + zer0 weren’t biologically engineered and fl4k was the creator’s attempt at making life

    • @joshdeller548
      @joshdeller548 Před 3 měsíci

      3 is now Loui3

  • @justinb4evnl
    @justinb4evnl Před 19 dny

    I think Marcus is telling the stories of the vault hunters to a future child of one of the vault hunters. And in the final game(if we ever get one), that child will be one of if not, the, main character tasked with winning/stopping the war that the watcher predicted. So the final game won’t be some old story Marcus tells, but one actually experienced.

  • @Sendmenudedpls
    @Sendmenudedpls Před rokem +4

    I’ve been watching your content for a few years and the quality gets better and better don’t stop making amazing content

  • @jonasmller8479
    @jonasmller8479 Před 7 měsíci

    Dr. Benedict also refers to Krieg as "Subject 24C" in the Borderlands 3 DLC, while the ECHOlogs from Borderlands 2 shows that Tinas dad is "Test Subject 524"

  • @Starry_Kiyae
    @Starry_Kiyae Před 11 měsíci

    Also kreig says "Love for my little one" sometimes when he dies

  • @ZelJoker
    @ZelJoker Před 11 měsíci

    The "Event" for the marcus theory could be the thing the guardian at the end of presequal was talking about

  • @mackenziemoore5088
    @mackenziemoore5088 Před rokem +6

    I still say a much better story line would have been Maya taking in Tina to be her protege, and her and Krieg working to help raise her, or Maya and Tina helping Krieg. It would have done away with Ava, and strengthen the player/fan connection with all three characters. It would have given Maya's death way more gravitas, too.

    • @sliggoomaster7213
      @sliggoomaster7213 Před rokem +1

      Now im thinking about how cool a siren Tina being playable would have been, just the idea of locking enemies in place to blow them to smithereens would actually be really cool

  • @awsomeoish
    @awsomeoish Před 2 měsíci

    Theory: Marcus is telling the tales in past tense and when the Great War happens he’ll finally have caught up. It’s him explaining to someone how they got to where they are now.

  • @gamescape7758
    @gamescape7758 Před 7 měsíci

    I like the marcus theory. But i like to imagine hes talking to his guns and or money. The only things he really loves. The few times they talk back could be chalked up to a sentient gun that he acquired somewhow.

  • @monsterrun
    @monsterrun Před rokem

    just to bring back the quote from the pre sequel that Springs bring up. "stories don't have to be true to be believed. People believe in stories just because, They are told."

  • @whistlerdan7718
    @whistlerdan7718 Před rokem +1

    While on the topic of theory 5, I saw a similar theory somewhere claiming that the game modes were actually variations of how the story was told:
    Normal Mode is a tale told through rumors by aspiring Vault Hunters claiming that a ragtag group of nobodies was able to topple down a powerful corporation and an alien monster with nothing but a dinky plastic gun and gimmicky combat skills.
    True Vault Hunter Mode is the one that actually recounts the tale of what actually happened given the power level you experience is still reasonable.
    Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode is actually the story Marcus is recounting given how everything feels grander and larger than life (Also probably why slag is so important in UVHM is because he's trying to advertise that slag weapons are THE number one choice for would-be vault hunters)

  • @JDWalker495
    @JDWalker495 Před rokem +3

    I thought that Earl was somehow related to Eridians or Sirens with his obsession eridium

  • @saracorwin3287
    @saracorwin3287 Před rokem +1

    Well he presents like Scrooge in the mercenary day DLC, I bet it was an orphan in that town. Coming around to his soft/caring side like the character growth seen in scrooge who then cares for the town

  • @CheeseGhosts
    @CheeseGhosts Před 7 měsíci

    Here’s the thing… hes still the “operative” so he was most likely working for the same organization as Zero before the events of BL3. So he could still be considered “One” without being the futures master assassin “assassin one” but I think it’s almost confirmed by what we have seen

  • @muzse4healerquickbit946
    @muzse4healerquickbit946 Před rokem +3

    Im still on the theory that Maya isn't dead, she just transferred herself into the book, and im sticking to that theory till I fucking die.

    • @umairashraf5167
      @umairashraf5167 Před rokem +1

      Isn't she still technically alive but only inside kriegs mind now?

    • @ethanfuego9648
      @ethanfuego9648 Před rokem

      @@umairashraf5167 I think so?

  • @jjjjj8455
    @jjjjj8455 Před 3 měsíci

    I always found crazy earl fascinating, He must be one richest people you meet, hordes of iridium and rare materials. I assumed the high security is to protect his extreme wealth

  • @Optimusj1975
    @Optimusj1975 Před rokem +1

    "...or the stories were just stupid?"
    It's about Borderlands you're talking. That ship sailed at the start.

  • @LowKeyBrit36
    @LowKeyBrit36 Před rokem +1

    2:50 I think it’s actually mordecai for a few reasons. A: he was close, or had at least known zero for some time. B: the 1 could be in reference to the shooting competition that zero had lost, and mordecai had won. C: mordecai definitely had the skill to pull off the kill as well.

  • @ayobruh5593
    @ayobruh5593 Před rokem +2

    "one" is assassin oney. he probably calls himself one or something.

  • @CallMeKes
    @CallMeKes Před rokem +1

    Yeah I had heard the thing about the devs saying Krieg and Tina weren't related. But no matter what anyone says, it will always be my head canon. And if it wasn't there intention...IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
    On the subject of Marcus...is that really a theory? I thought it was a given. Like, the whole point of those sections.
    All that aside, great video!

  • @mute1496
    @mute1496 Před 4 měsíci

    Zane in our universe retired whereas in the Assassin One Description it says " Zane decides he isn't ready for retirement".

  • @masterofhippos1395
    @masterofhippos1395 Před rokem

    i think marcus is a time traveler because in the first game he says im sure we'll be doing this all again soon enough

  • @firetukker21
    @firetukker21 Před rokem +1

    Vallory from Tales From The Borderlands is also one-eyed.

  • @BigmanBigham
    @BigmanBigham Před rokem +1

    Krieg being tiny tina father can only happen if we learn what was the amount of time between tiny tina escape and the start of borderlands 2. Why we need to know this is because we need to know if krieg had enough time to escape from the slag experiments, become a renowned mercenary, get captured again, escapes again, and then borderlands 2 begin. If the time was a couple of years the theory works but if it was like couple of months the theory falls apart.

    • @BigmanBigham
      @BigmanBigham Před rokem

      After the fustercluck dlc what I said can not be taken as true. The only way It can be true is if krieg came out sane after the slag experiments and then became insane after getting captured again.

  • @ReverendSyn
    @ReverendSyn Před rokem +1

    *Flesh-Stick could have tipped off Hyperion about the mercenary mission Krieg was assigned to where he got captured.*

  • @JohnCastleSmokeless
    @JohnCastleSmokeless Před rokem

    One not touched upon:
    The Borderlands franchise takes place in the distant future of the Fallout franchise. Specifically, one of the long-term goals of Robert House is to colonize space. Borderlands is the result of that space program.

  • @Jonzerker15
    @Jonzerker15 Před rokem +1

    i have a theory that FL4K, Zer0 and even possibly Zane and his family were created by someone (not specifically hyperion)
    FL4k is obviously made of machinery but Zane and Zer0 might be biologically engineered

  • @treystamm585
    @treystamm585 Před 6 měsíci

    We do know the events actually happened, and that it’s not JUST a Story, because in the Claptrap Robolution ending he says how everything happened truthfully (except for him dying obviously, that he just says he died to keep the ladies listening)

  • @arlem525
    @arlem525 Před rokem +1

    I like the Krieg theory.