Sony Has Ruined Gran Turismo 7...
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- čas přidán 18. 03. 2022
- One of my favourite sim games in recent years has been affected for reasons that don't even touch the gameplay. This is why you don't connect your game to a persistent online connection and affect earning rates just to goad us into microtransations. Thanks for watching!
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so as an avid sim racer, i want to see Muta lappin some fools in onine races. (with the wheel of course)
I said once and I'll say it again: ONLINE DRM REQUIREMENTS FOR A (MOSTLY) SINGLE PLAYER GAME SHOULDN'T EXIST.
But if you're not forced to be online .. how else are they going to shove microtransactions into your face? :3
@@BF2shaun37 why do u have to be right
That's something I hated when I played The Crew and NFS 2015. Why do I have to connect to the internet in order to play a SINGLE PLAYER campaign?!
@Louiebruh1 You only differ one letter, sPammer!
Most people aren't going to know what you're talking about. Whom are you saying this to?
I remember when people were complaining about $2 - $5 Black Ops 2 camo packs (understandably).
Now we get $40 mtx for 1 car in a single player game damm 😂
The Jaguar XJ13 is currently sold for 12 millions /120 dollars. And its not even the most expensive.
It's also multiplayer tho. It has multiplayer playlists and server creation.
@@novathepug6692 It also has campaign and mp and zombies can be played offline with bots.
I ranted for years about the Halo 3 DLC packs
The McLaren F1 came in the legends shop today which would cost a cool $185 (US) through microtransactions.
Actually most expensive legendary shop cars are way more than just 3M. They're up to 20M credits. GT7 is actually the hardest to grind now. Because you cannot sell your cars anymore. (realistic right?! LOL) Pure evil, corporate greed practices. Disgusting! We just received 2 cars in legends cars, each priced 18M. That's straight up 400$ to buy both of them. Ridiculous!
M F1 is 1800000 credits. 135 quid
gt7 is a masterpiece. it’s a curated evolving game on week 2, nobody is supposed to have expensive cars yet. there are faster ways to earn credits coming, just enjoy the journey, when fh5 came out everyone was crying about getting hypercars early in the game now people expect to be able to get a 20 million dollar car in week 2
@@Riotdrone you need to stop dickriding big corporations. they are scamming u. you pay 70$ for a WHOLE GAME and need to pay 200$ for a SINGLE car. that’s insane. they is nothing wrong with making the game a grind but not to the point where it’s barely possible to purchase these cars without micro transactions
@@ahmed-xj8hp you’re not supposed to have the expensive cars as soon as the game comes out, blows my mind that this is confusing for people. they’ve always said this game is going to evolve and progress as time goes on and that means to make credits and unlock cars will accelerate.
@@Riotdrone oh my god, this dude willrobd has copy pasted his shill comment all over this video's comment section. Just ignore this guy.
The fact that they gave reviewers a completely different version of this game only to completely bait and switch consumers with a heavily tampered with final product is fucking unreal. I can't believe the always online is bigger talking point than Sony actively trying to scam consumers.
Definitely feels like Sony went “which demographic will accept the most shitty practices” then went “oh yeah sports games and driving games, let’s run our staple series into the ground for a extra Buck”
They bought bungie to help them design 10 live service games. Bungie has expensive dlc's with additional microtransactions and will remove content you paid extra to own! This is the new Sony.
Man, it’s sad I’ve always had a PlayStation instead of an Xbox so I’ve always wanted gran turismo to compete with forza, but it’s just not happening anymore.
@@metallicafan416 What about Halo? Shut up kid
@@lazyvoid7107 why do children always call other people kid
@@tfwnoyandere CZcams censored everything so
A great racing game that doesn’t give its players the ability to easily obtain their favorite cars for the sake of micro transactions
To be fair in the older GT games half the cars were practically impossible to get because you’d have to race for an IRL 24 Hours (or 6 hours in b-spec) to get enough money and no one is doing that, I remember in GT4 the grind to unlock the fun cars like the Toyota One was an unholy endeavor
@@thiccchungo1041 "no one is doing that" that's where you're wrong, me and my friends did all the crazy races back in the day (I even did more recently replaying the game in an emulator lol). But that's not even the point, even if it was grindy to unlock some of the cars there was no microtransactions being pushed for you to get them
@@thiccchungo1041 buddy doesnt remember the citta di aria easy event exploit lmfaoooooooooooooooo
@@J.PC.Designs em, no? you can get all cars in gt7 without paying while you cant do that in recent nfs games
I disagree, and as a racing simulator fanatic, I appreciate the value of working harder to obtain the cars you want. Because to me, the grind is fun and it's rewarding. You guys just want to be spoon-fed all the cars.
Its just mind boggling that they thought this was go over everyone's head without issue. Such a great game visually has just been thrown to the wolves in 1 update...Well done Sony, Well done
what do you expect sony is a greedy corp!!!
Well it's a Sport Game and at this point publishers treat sports games as the most miserable milking cows.
It's not as bad as Fifa or NFL of course but still.
Plain old greed!
@@michaelblake2280 ikr greed ruins games
The issue with games today and the "online only, games as a service" culture is that these companies go out of their way to make sure someone can't("legally") run their own dedicated servers. Most people going through the hassle/work to operate private/dedicated servers are doing it for the love of the game.
there suviers its not therte us law say when buy some it yourts not there any mroe sao there for they can tell you wha tod o wit hit
GT7 is very realistic
it takes 50 years to grind enough credits to buy a semi-cool car, just like real life!
They took the tofu tax meme too seriously.
Tyres that cost 38.000 credits is really realistic indeed.
Brilliant haha
gt7 is a masterpiece. it’s a curated evolving game on week 2, nobody is supposed to have expensive cars yet. there are faster ways to earn credits coming, just enjoy the journey, when fh5 came out everyone was crying about getting hypercars early in the game now people expect to be able to get a 20 million dollar car in week 2
@@Riotdrone You like to spam this a lot, don't you? Jesus, what even is the point of it? People will be divided about a company's practices and decisions, no matter what other people say.
Damn, Sony has really been on a slaughter fest with their Japanese studios. First Gravity Rush and Knack, now Gran Turismo
@Louiebruh1 This isn't even Mr. Beast's channel, go away bot
I liked knack. Damn shame
@@flyingfish64 And I loved Gravity Rush (both games are by Japan Studio). But it wasn't a 3rd Person Action Game with cinematic cutscenes, so Sony barely advertised it
@@Kono_Dio-Da Ah! A fellow Gravity Rush fan! Quite enjoyed the first and the second one is underrated (though ive yet to finish it) imo
sucks how they wont boost GR2 to 60 fps tho
@@DeterminedTorres I beat both recently. I didn't even know about Gravity Rush 2 until a few months ago
GT7 should be free. This pay $70 for a game that you don't even own has got to stop.
Everything wrong with GT7: The Ultimate Grinding Simulator:
- Online only, even for single player. When my internet drops out for 30 seconds I’m ejected out of the race and the game is crippled.
- Nerfed credit payouts.
- Legends way too expensive for current credit-earning implementation.
- What’s the point of having >800PP cars if, in order to use them, we have to completely ruin them to get them down to 800PP? Why even bother putting them in the game?
- Why oh why is the entire game a start-40 seconds-back-in-a-faster-car challenge? That should just be a novelty mode like the music game. GIVE US QUALIFYING AND PROPER RACES!!
- Custom Race mode is currently the best thing about the game because you can actually use the best cars uncrippled and start on a grid, but please expand it into equally customisable CUSTOM CHAMPIONSHIPS! With qualifying!
- Rigged roulette.
- Why do the AI cars drive into me? Is it because they’re badly engineered or is it because they’re deliberately engineered to sabotage my Clean Race Bonus and slow down credit-grinding?
- No cars from later than 2017. Ay??
The game is pointless. You do the same race for hours and hours to get credits to buy an awesome car, only to then have to ruin the car with power restrictors, crap tyres, and front-weighted ballast in order to be able to use it in an arcade-style start-from-the-back-against-slower-cars challenge. Then repeat. Custom Championships with qualifying would be the biggest improvement to the game, and it’s an easy addition.
Well said bruh..if only Sony hired you to be the director..I think kaz yam should retire.
I absolutely hate that there's people within the Playstation community actually defending this either because they don't know better or because their so insecure over this console war bs that they can't admit Sony's flaws. I hate my community sometimes
I mean I don’t know what the fuck is going on. I’m new to track racing games. But after playing some racing games like project cars 2 for example, this seems like the best game ever made. I mean holy shit I was so lost in pc2. Like it wasn’t approachable at all. I literally spun out doing the most simplest turns with a decent amount of speed. It literally felt like you automatically were fucked without a wheel.
Most people don't give a fuck about this game franchise lol
For what it's worth, in my experience, reasonable people like you are the majority in the PS community, and same thing with Xbox, Nintendo, and PC. Sadly, however, there's always that super-minority of loud idiots that use the fact that they've crucified themselves to a specific hunk of plastic as a method of compensating for various things they're lacking in or feel they're lacking in. The platform wars are bullshit that should already be long-dead, but some folks (on any side of it) just won't let them die already. I was sick of it in 2012, I was sick of it in 2018, and I'm sick of it now, as are we all.
There is no real "console war" anymore just corporate fanboyism.
I have both an XBOX and a PlaySation, so I honestly don't really care what's better between Gran Turismo and Forza because I play both, and the credit reduction doesn't really phase me since I am able to farm the cars I want through Championships because it breaks the monotony of doing the same race over and over and over and over again. If I wanted Gran Turismo: The Fisherman's Ranch Simulator, I wouldn't have bought the game. Overall though, I don't *defend* the MTX nor do I *defend* the credit cuts... however, I do defend Kaz in saying that there is more to GT7 than *High Speed Ring* and *Fisherman's Ranch* lol.
Sony can either make a game amazing or absolutely destroy it, there’s no in between.
Destroy it? You're getting confused with Xbox there lol
And either way, they always get cucked by whatever Nintendo does
You mean mostly destory as the only good game I have played so far is Spider Man Miles Morales
Examples?
@@vagamer522 lmao so GOW, Horizon, Returnal, GT7, TLOU, Uncharted, etc..are all trash? I can appreciate your opinion, but I'm gonna guess you've only played Spiderman to say that lol
Glad you made this video,
It's not just about Gran Turismo 7.
The whole Triple A game industry is being corrupted by greedy practices that apply to the meta side of things. Bringing it up to the public is the single way to fix the corrupting industry.
By bringing it up more and more, we can scare corporations into behaving and revive the days when we paid ONCE for a game and got everything with it. Feminist Twitter was able to shift Hollywood (for the worse); let's see what we can do (for the better).
Tbh Forza doesn't really have microtransactions. Yes, you have the premium pack, but it comes with the DLC's and all the cars for free. It's a genuinely good deal bc you get about 100 cars. The only real microtransactions that are available is to buy the treasure map that just discoveries everything for you, for very cheap, but it's not worth buying becuase the enjoyment of finding things around the map and driving is so nice.
They'll keep doing this shit as long as people keep buying
Funny you think Hollywood changed and isn't just pandering
@@XDthedevilsrejectsXD sorry, I wasn't clear, I meant the opposite, the extreme feminist/sjw twitter has pushed Hollywood (for the worse) to incorporate more female roles in areas where theyre very unnecessary. There's nothing wrong with female actors, but now it's like every sequel /remaster features some extra-heroic black woman.
I like African American females, but it drives me nuts watching them quietly take over most of modern films & movies, specifically by corporate force.
@@JeremyBX agreed 👍
I've been gaming since NES. Sad to watch the market go down the road it's going. It's about money not quality. I remember when you bought a game it worked...not a buggy piece of crap. You paid full price and get a 40% game. Then the developer puts out patches aka bandaids. I might be a boomer but at least we had great games. Miss the good ol days...lol. spot on my guy.
They just introduced an 18 million credit Mclaren. Like are they serious? The amount of time they want us to put in for those legendary cars is legitimately unreasonable.
You got to play it like it's your job if you want to get that 💀
Yeah, and to be real they aren't even that fun to drive with a wheel. Might just be me but I always had a bigger blast with the '78 trans am rippin corners of Nurburgring and slingin the dirt tracks on GT sport
GT 7 has been turned into GTA Online 7
How else would you feel a sense of pride and accomplishment?
bro if you think this is unreasonable you clearly haven’t played gt4
I'm glad someone as big as you said something about this whole online-only game. A lot of old school GT player wouldn't find this pleasing and as one myself, it certainly hurts to see that this is the route they have chosen to take. Hopefully they will see the outrage from their audience and adjust accordingly
I truly hope this happens. I hate the concept of this online only shit. What if the internet goes out for a few hours, then what? i cant play the game that I paid for anymore???
The internet was created by design specifically to destroy everything humanity has built. Thusly, they will not be doing any adjusting unless it is to make an objectively worse product.
they won't. as long as you spend, they will do it. so old fans will be lost because newbies will be spending, thinking it's normal
some people acutely talking about but guess what, all the people talking about is people didn't get the free copy, its fking disgusting how good game is falling
The sad thing about these practises is that they're all about profit. So if they see that it's making profit, they're not going to change it because players are angry about it. Only way for them to consider is if they see a drop in earnings and that doesn't happen very often. There's a reason companies have been pushing these microtransactions for years for a reason after all.
The worst part is, when a new gt comes out, the last ones servers go down in under a year. Gran turismo 5s servers only stayed up for 4 years.
Elden Ring seems so innovative, actually giving you an entire complete game...
So it's time to buy it several times on each platform (except PC because cheaters) in order for everyone to see why games like Elden Ring are so good.
This game is a love letter to car culture and a hate speech to gaming in general
You said it perfectly
Y’all better be quiet before they start taking tax and crew costs outta your payouts to “reflect the real world” 💀
@@Solznmid they'll get guys on the internet charging us 20k bucks for a banged up old ass R34 soon
This game is not a love letter to the car culture if the game is bad
@@Lol-zc1vd to be honest the game itself isn't bad, but they're fucking it up with all this microtransactions and "online only" bs
I fucking hate it when companies seem to assume everyone has stable internet, you can always tell someone’s out of touch when they make a decision like that.
It isn't they are out of touch, they are trying to force something that is beneficial for them and they can shift the blame onto others. It is a basic tactic.
They care about the whales who typically have good internet and money.
Most of Saskatchewan especially in more rural places with the exception of big cities like Saskatoon or Regina can only get up 10mbps download speeds
North in my state the internet is so spotty that they still have video rental stores.
Dude MS friggin torpedoed the Series S/X with this crap. The full games aren't even printed on the discs now. I was going to get one for emulation and stuff, but the loss of plain physical gaming without constant connectivity is a damn shame.
@@12ealDealOfficial That's why I moved to PC after the PS4 generation.
I have older consoles like Dreamcast, Xbox 360 and PS Vita, but newer ones don't even sell physical games, only inconvenient license keys.
Steam at least lets me play offline after I download a game once, and PC DVDs have the games on them.
Many recent cars are absent from the game to reflect the reality of cpu shortage.
Next update: Some hard earned cars will vanish from your garage because there was a recall.
Update 2.0: Tournaments are playable only once a year because... you guessed it, reality!
Gran Turismo 2035: Fuel engine cars are absent from the game to reflect new environmental laws.
I remember this all starting with Half Life 2 and having to connect to Steam (which was very young when it came out and most of us were still on 56k modems) and thinking "whose idea was this?". I have never has a problem with HL2 and indeed with Steam but there is still that worry of what if steam goes away, that's a hellova lot of licences to loose.
At least basic Steam DRM is easy to crack. The Seven Seas will make these games available to us.
Yeah sadly I was far too young to put up a fight in that battle. By the time I became a PC gamer Steam had already well cemented itself in the PC space. I would be more than heartbroken if my 98 games and counting were to just vanish due to Steam shutting down someday.
It really does suck when games choose the route of being online only, specially when its just for the sake of say a drm or one portion of the game, so it ends up gatekeeping everything else in the game from you if you don't have a internet connection. Why is it so hard for the game to only need a internet connection when you want to play online, older games did that just fine where they only needed to check for a connection when trying to play multiplayer online and everything else from singleplayer to local splitscreen worked just fine without it. Its honestly annoying af.
I just dont buy games with intrusive DRM.
I was so excited for the new Dying light. I was getting ready to buy it day one then under everyone's nose a few hours before launch they added Denuvo to the game. Needless to say I will not be purchasing this game anymore.
@@TheOrignalKillezz Yeah thats fair, though its not always easy for people, I am a huge fan of the thps series, and so when 1+2 was announced I got it for pc when it came out, but it ended up having online drm, the game would run fine if you lost connection while in the game, but if you loaded up the game without internet it wouldn't load into the main game saying you needed to connect to the internet, which sucks cause I actually did have a week where we had no internet cause like most providers, our internet provider cogeco are incompetent and broke something and refused to take responsiblity for their actions for like a week leaving us internetless for that time, and so I couldn't play 1+2 at all. I probably still would have bought the game cause its the first good thps game since (imo) proving ground, but the whole online drm shit is super pointless regardless, given the game runs fine without it if you loose it while in game.
I always say blame fortnite 😂
gt7 was forced to be online only for FIA accedidation. Which allows official FIA events to be done
@@lmaoooo8764 It was fairly popular in games before Fortnite, it started popping up a lot in AAA games around 2014-2015
You know what's more amazing than what they have done to this game? The people who defend it. The McLaren F1 literally takes 93 hours of normal gameplay time to afford, and 21 hours of optimal grinding get! That is absolutely outrageous
No one defends to MTX, the Always Online gameplay and the 30 hours of going dark with nothing but a 100 dollar paper-weight. I have to say that there is more to GT7 than *Fisherman's Ranch* though, and without no trouble at all [despite working 40hrs a week and stuff about without being fully attentive to the game at all times] I managed to pick up the Porsche GT1 [3mil], the Ferrari F40[1.5mil] and a 425K Porsche.. all now fitted with all of the best upgrades [inc. Nitrous, pain, racing items from GT Auto, bodykits, etc] in a few days. I will get that McLaren F1 one day, but for now I am saving up for the Sauber Mercedes for that *Three Legendary Cars* trophy.
@@nickwilliams6621 fisherman's ranch is nefed, so its not an option anymore. I also have a full time job, but choose not to spend every last hour and neglect my family to get a 3mill vehicle that I may not even like. Some people like to play 2 or 3 hours over the weekend. Not all day every day they are off.
@@fondfarewell2 Play something else geezer. Leave GT to the real racers.
@@nickwilliams6621 I've seen people defending it. Saying its extending the life of the game, or that people are in too much of a rush to buy the cars. Really blows my mind
@@roncatman6236 guarantee you're a struggling B rated driver at best.
The biggest problem with the game is the online requirement, not the supposed lack of credits earned from races.
Even a Year later the game has not improved. It still can't be played offline, the game structure is shit, and grinding is worse than ever. I still think GT5 and GT6 were better games with much better driving experience. I couldn't wait to get home and play those games. Now I look at the PlayStation and don't even want to turn it on. I rage quit the game constantly because the game is so shitty.
Micro transactions and NFT's should be erased altogether
So you would rather have constant ads in a game? Or do you wanna go back to DLC?
@@hardatak There was a time where "none of it" was possible, and a game could just be complete out of the box, and earn sales based solely on merit. Still happens today, as a matter of fact. I know, you probably weren't around during those days, so the concept must be mind-blowing, but it's true!
@@AeridesEntertainment I guess indie games are the only options left huh? No way these big companies are willing to drop bs like this.(Of course I wish they would)
@@hardatak are you unironically simping for a mega corporation?
Thats not just cringe
That just foul
@@hardatak this clearly shows that you’re a corporate shill
This went from “I’ll buy this after I platinum elden ring” to “hard pass” real fast
Speaking of, just uninstalled. Fire Giant, instant death glitch, level 101. It stopped being fun, so i will join the maidenless pussies who scream the game is too hard
@@wolftales5203 Your overall character level doesn't mean shit if you didn't spend your lvls right.
@@wolftales5203 Pfft. when you put all stat points into ....Faith
gt7 is a masterpiece. it’s a curated evolving game on week 2, nobody is supposed to have expensive cars yet. there are faster ways to earn credits coming, just enjoy the journey, when fh5 came out everyone was crying about getting hypercars early in the game now people expect to be able to get a 20 million dollar car in week 2
Image buying another game the rest of your life after buying elden ring 🤨
Hoping to see a "sony has fixed gt7" video in a month or so after the announced changes for april take place (hopefully)
Looks like pressuring publishers can work and I'm happy the GT audience doesn't let themselves just get run over by predatory practices
Considering what EA has done to Madden, with basically turning it into MTX lootbox madness, I highly doubt anything will change. Sony has completely destroyed what used to be an amazing series.
Screw this, I'd rather just play the old GT titles than buying into this bullshit.
@@ilackedtheheart yeah I spoke too soon lol this game has far bigger issues than just payouts being too low
Forza Motorsport 3 Ultimate Collection. The perfect driving sim. It gives you ALL dlc with the bonus disc. No need to grind and waste hours and days to get money to buy cars. You can drive literally every single car in the game right off the bat in Quick Race mode and it's fucking awesome. All those Ferrari and Porsche ACTUAL race cars? Yep. Fucking awesome. Seriously, it's amazing and really for me, using the assists makes it even more of a blast to drive these unbelievable race cars.
Oh, and every Forza Motorsport has something that NOT A SINGLE Gran Turismo game has...
Road America. The greatest race track in the world.
I grew up with Gran Turismo and it is literally the last ‘franchise’ in video games that I have left to care about, so I can call myself a massive GT fanboy-but I can still see and say that this is a travesty. The whole idea of cars in-game reflecting their real-world value is a joke, too-people buy racing games like GT to ESCAPE the real world car market, where they can drive and experience cars they have virtually no chance in life of owning or even driving in real life. The last thing anyone wants in a video game is to be reminded of how things are in the real world. Exotics and legendary classics are one thing, but having to pay 500k credits (~$5) for something like an NSX makes no sense at all.
Gran Turismo 7: The Real Car Market Simulator
Yet another fat L for Sony
im dissapointed, time to wait for fm8 then
@@xopasstheaux6617 well Xbox is doing far worse is loses
played every gt game since they were day 1 release was so hyped for gt7 i got me and 3 off my kids a ps5 on day 1 release and me and 2 off my kids gt7 on pre order waited over a yr for gt7 release after got ps5 and watched my boys trade in there gt7 games this weekend after this last update have never seen a game traded in so quickly the hours days weeks months i spent with my boys playing this franchise over the yrs has been thrown out the window within a few weeks its very sad
Game companies are slowly really becoming lost. You pay 60$+ for a game and they decide when you can play it and when not. In other words do they decide to turn off the GT7 servers off in a few years you can throw the game in the bin.
While big companies start turning for the worst, I'm just here vibin with two indie games that genuinely are worth way more than their price tag.
Shit, I'm about to break into the 3k hours in one of them, best 60$ I've spent, and that's base game + 2 expansion packs.
Support the devs that still treat their players right.
@@GabrielShitposting Probably wrong but is it Risk of Rain 2? haha
@@Dark47Killer i just play don't starve together, terraria, cookie clicker, a hat in time, and hollow knight now a days... triple A games are just mostly horrible now.
Game companies are turning into Ferrari lol
@@Viesta you forgot hades
I've been playing a lot of PSP lately and there are a ton of great racing games on there. Remember when you unlocked skins and upgrades through actual gameplay and not through pulling out your wallet
I swear, you're the working class heroes of game world.., this is what I've been thinking of this "online only" games but not able to put it verbally as well as you did 👏👏👏
Back in GT5 and GT6 there were "Login bonuses". You'd get up to 50% bonus Cr. and XP if you login 5 days consecutively into GT.
Thing is, back then we didn't have to pay for online, and you only needed to login to get the bonus. You'd also keep the bonus offline.
Also, the same microtransaction service existed in GT6, and the same payout nerf also happened. But in GT6, you could get massive loads of cash by playing the online Seasonal races. It was easier to get money too. It was quite generous of them back then.
Today, you can only play online with PS Plus, and the game is online only. There is no Login Bonus, and payouts are straight garbage. I believe they will make up since Polyphony usually cares about our experience, even though they're owned by Sony which doesn't give a fuck
They had years of testing if what you said is true. If they really cared about player experience they should have known this was a no no from the get go. It really seems they don't have much control if this gotten worse and worse over the years.
@@Deliveredmean42 They tried to put paid Car Packs in GT5. It was badly received. Also GT5 was a hacking fuckfest, and servers were unstable as fuck.
GT6 had no car packs. You could pay for in-game cash but again. It wasn't necessary and I doubt anyone actually bought it.
So in GT7 as they see the game is well received they start putting it and also because this is a trend nowadays
@@Deliveredmean42 yeah, looking at it back it was kind of low for them to do that. However, it was still forgivable because as he said, it was still relatively easy to get a lot of money for a short amount of time. If you get your bonus right, one seasonal event might reward you around 200k, for just racing for 10 mins.
Going back to GT6, it’s not hard to make money there offline. However GT5 is just too much of a grind now without the seasonal events, I barely touch it nowadays.
It was also around this time (either GT5 or GT6) that they removed the ability to sell cars (only that you can just remove them). In Forza Horizon (at least from FH4) you also can’t sell your car offline (just like newer GT games, you can only remove them), however you can take it to the auction house where other people can buy them online instead.
NeedForSpeed High Stakes forever.
Even Sport had microtransactions but you were directly buying cars that you could buy with in-game credits or even just WIN from playing the game and they were like... a couple of bucks at the most each. I ignored them then because they weren't really necessary, I only ever bought cars with credits and that was just to get the "buy 100 cars and spend a certain amount of credits" achievements that give you bonus XP. You earned so many cars ranging from road shitboxes to GT3 and LMP cars that you never even really needed to buy anything. Back when people were mad about that, I was on the defensive side. Now they've gone too far and I don't want to defend this shit.
Thank you bringing light to this, it's such a shame how they have ran such a classic game to the ground.
I’m actually surprised the dumb Sony fan boys aren’t defending this.
@SNEEDman [Formerly Chuck’s] Yeah she is, unfortunatelly I'm still stuck on the grind to get enough credits for a car in order to join her
I remember the build up hype for Grand turismo 5, which was sky high due to a couple of factors.
1. The game was marketed as the ps3 most have launch title
2. The game looked really nice
3.The game released a vanilla promo game before the main game.
The game took a very long time to come out.
However that game turned out really good.
Thanks man, leaving a comment for algorithm purposes and to say you summed up all my feelings about GT7 perfectly. Gonna go and play GT4 where I can still buy 90s skylines for 10k credits
Gran Turismo 7 is becoming Sony’s Halo Infinite
An amazing game at its core, that’s being ruined by greed
Except Infinite multiplayer is free to play and GT7 is $70.
@@fordgtguy also the issue isn’t greed, it’s the lack of content😭
This exactly
@@BlackWeeeb Yeah
@@fordgtguy except the $60 halo infinite campaign is just unfinished rushed out garbage
I was so excited that Gran Turismo would come back and I’ve been a fan of the franchise since the PS2 era but now Sony just had to ruin their final good dead franchise that needed to comeback
Nice profile! Love that band!
Gran Turismo 3 was the best
Heard that GT7 would be a revamped GT4. And yet, this is anything but. It's just another marketing tactic.
Honestly I just went back to playing GT4 on PS2 and GT5/GT6 on PS3. Seeing these microtransactions and online DRM in GT7 is just so disgusting, it doesn't even belong there. Sure I can just ignore them but it just leaves a bad impression immediately.
You’re completely correct. The actual gameplay is very good, but they seem to really have missed the mark in regards to general usability.
It had to be said. Thank you. You spoke exactly what was in my mind when i knew about the online only . Such shame 😞
I’ve loved GT since I was a kid, still do, but I can’t defend the shit Sony is doing with this game. Gameplay is awesome, but the online-only and micro transactions suck major peen
Sad times we live in.
If only it was like back in the day
The micro transactions don’t change the game, removing them doesn’t change the way credits are earned(this is in comparison to previous games) but online only is BS
True that. Old days were better with no online bs.
Dont have too do the micros thats your choice
Oh man split-screen I HATE how that is just not a thing anymore!!! And yes Online only sucks!!! As you said, ones the servers are down you are f... Gamesky for instance (or whatever it was called) all those servers closed, if anything was online only with that server... By game!!!!
And micro transactions, how to ruin a game experience...
It is. Just go to the multiplayer section and its there.
I mean, it technically IS in this game, but it's... It's just awful.
@@no_name2882 He was speaking to the lack of split-screen among most major titles these days.
Split screen was my main childhood lol
@@no_name2882 eyyy lancia fan
Glad to know I'm not missing much with this series now. GT4 remains my favorite in the series followed closely by GT2.
gt7 is a masterpiece. it’s a curated evolving game on week 2, nobody is supposed to have expensive cars yet. there are faster ways to earn credits coming, just enjoy the journey, when fh5 came out everyone was crying about getting hypercars early in the game now people expect to be able to get a 20 million dollar car in week 2
@@Riotdrone You're a gaming simp.
Thanks for referencing diablo 2. Now definitely polyphony sounds like Gheed. My most favorite game quote of all time "A Necromancer! I wish I never laid eyes on your kind again! But ... Your money's good"
Totally agree with your points. Make a separate save file for online play like Diablo 2
Thank you for making this. The more we put Sony AND Polyphony on blast, the better.
Hmm both Sony and Polyphony rhyme with PHONY. Coincidence?
It's about control. These publishers want to control how you play, when you play and what you see. They want to funnel you through specific aspects of the game and along the way maximize the chance you will open your wallet. From the menu screen all the way through the game and your progression along the way, it's a controlled environment designed to sell you more. If you're not connected to the internet, then the publisher can't control what you're doing or what you see, so they're opting to shut that down completely until they can take back control and leverage every opportunity along the way. Remember folks, if the company has shareholders, they will never make *enough* money, they will always strive to make *more money* to satisfy the bottom line.
underrated comment, needs more attention
Finally someone understood. Same as for updates with any other app. They're designed to create a dependency of fomo on the latest security or extra feature, while most of the time they delete features or change them entirely. It's a total psychological mind hack and really an abuse of the build-in adiction mechanism in the human body. Absolutely disgusting when used on unaware customers, especially those of younger age, and it's also the worst part of the permanent internet connectivity that exist today.
No ones forcing you to buy shitty games, people are dumb
Great comment.
It's like we don't even own the fucking game, even though we purchased it. It's all profit to them
God I love GT7 , I love all the car customization and the list and having the used cars lot back , I hope Sony and the devs pay attention that maybe the direction they are heading is not getting them anywhere.
Please GT devs go back to your roots and do what you do best
Help needed, On my main screen it says "You have an invitation" for a car. When i check it ,its expired, but still shows up. Really bugging me now.
*Fun Fact:* In Gran Turismo 4, the "Oh Yeah" game over song is the same song from the movies _Secret Success of My Life_ and _Breakfast Club._
Jesus Christ I hope this doesn't become a trend with Sony. F*cking embarassing.
Too late bich
Sony "we're releasing 10 live service games in the next 3 years"
Sony was the only of the remaining good publishers and alas they are ruined. That leaves only Xbox Game studios as the only good publisher
@@dinkarfowkar999 if xbox failed we will know that gaming itself became like icaraus
it flew too close the sun and burned into ash
@@atarijaguarfan7893 ye
I love your deep honest in games I would love it if you review games after 10 days of release so some of us can save or bags
This was the case with GT Sport also, i remember not being able to play the game for 3 days because of the servers not working...
Sadly every successful franchise has its downfall, Gran Turismo being no exception. Also instead of getting this game and paying $40 for like every car in the game, I'm just gonna save my money and go buy a Mazda Miata NA in real life.
Good luck spending less than 8k. Even rust buckets go for a premium now.
You'd save more money just buying all the cars in GT7 with MTX if you want to pay damn near 10k for a good Miata.
Yeah yeah, have a fun time looking for an affordable one lol.
Same, but for 6th gen Celica. AE86 Sprinter Trueno is way expensive.
Man I'll settle for a Civic or Elantra.
I agree, Gran Turismo has always had a place in my heart. I've purchased Playstations because of this exclusive title. I find it unfortunate and unexpected and that Polyphany has stooped to this level for this multi-generation title game.
not unexpected, they started with GT6 somewhat, but after that it was straight up theft and shitty games. that was 2013, so the fact that its 2022 it tells you all you need to know.
@@kamitorings After FIA touched it, the franchise ruined it (at least for me)
pretty dumb to blame polyphony when sony is the one making these decisions, devs are just implementing them because they have to, otherwise they can forget about getting their game on the PlayStation...kaz just wants to make a good gran turismo game, but sony has him chained
At least is better than Forza
I can't believe I see people online arguing that people should just "get good" or "Just play the game for 2 hours a day" to get a single car... I loved the idea that GT was going to make us work for cars of course, it's satisfying to an extent to have to do that partly because instant gratification sucks (ie forza's progression model where you can get a supercar within 30 minutes...) but also because it adds extra layers to the game, it makes you actually have a reason to buy a cheaper car to save money until you can get a better one or to figure out whether to prioritise handling or power upgrades for the same reason. But at some point it stops being a videogame when you're running the same event hundreds of times, you're just burning your life away at that point, I want most of the time I play a game to be spent enjoying it, being challenged by different events in different cars, racing and meeting different people, not just finidng the most efficient event and grinding it out for a month.
Video games, movies and tv series were supposed to be a form of entertainment an escape from reality. I use to enjoy the concept of adding some realism into these entertainment ventures. Now it’s either greed or someone wanting representation from a particular community. I grew up on the days of NES/ Super NES, the game boy that took four AA batteries and Genesis. I miss the old plug and play mentality of gameplay. Maybe I’m sounding like a crazy person.
gt7 is a masterpiece. it’s a curated evolving game on week 2, nobody is supposed to have expensive cars yet. there are faster ways to earn credits coming, just enjoy the journey, when fh5 came out everyone was crying about getting hypercars early in the game now people expect to be able to get a 20 million dollar car in week 2
If anybody within Sony watches this, they're so going to take that pit stop credit idea and squeeze the living shit out of it.
There is also be a long term reason for online only, aside from DRM or cheating they always mention. If you have the disc (or hacked machine) it will not be possible to play the game when they shut down the servers. It will kill the second hand market in the long term. If you want to play the play game years later, you have to buy an updated version for the new system you buy. Again the reason is all about money. It's BS.
mods can change it but it would take years, if someone does it
@@superninja252 I'm pretty sure modders are already working on that.
This is such a small consideration that it's essentially worthless. The vast majority of people are not going to spend money to replay their old games. I don't think the revenue for the companies even rates.
@Pog_Tuber
GTA 5 lol
@@RetroDestroyer afaict GTA5 doesn't need to be online in its core gameplay. Simply removing the launcher requirement would be easy
Thanks for sharing this, Muta. It’s like we’re going back to the PS3 over-confident Sony era.
Damn shame.
If I remember correctly, as an example, a sizable portion of the full experience of the OG Monster Hunter for the PS2 is locked behind online multiplayer. Playing it now, you only have access to single player and some say that it feels incomplete or very difficult to play.
There are other Monster Hunter games where most stuff are locked behind online servers, and especially for the older titles like 2 Dos, online multiplayer makes the controls with the experience of hunting the monsters more manageable and have more content to try out.
Games that are full online is in constant danger of becoming lost to time, that much is obvious. I'll probably never get to see most content from many games when the servers go down, and that is such a damn shame.
You forgot to mention that unlike the old GT games when you sell your cars you don’t get credits for them. You get nothing.
Miss the days where you race a 3 race series and get a prize car guaranteed and just sell if for money.
Farming that one race in gt2 that gives you 300k per race due to the gt 40 reward car.
@@succmama1039 I think you mean the 500,000 cr drag car for the oval loop race
@@pyro111100 yeah, that Drag Car was a good money maker. I have zero interest in GT7 anymore. This is like a trainwreck and the game sounds like zero fun -!; more a grind. I’m not paying $70 for a un-fun grind .
@@succmama1039 Just to buy that Escudoooooo Hill Climber. Good times
what you talking about you cant even sell your cars right now in gt7 the path that iwll let yo sell them and make money dfos not come tell april 7 so quit leing
So they made a series always known for being offline, online and added microtransactions. Wonderful.
@b7 I never thought I would see the day that Gran Turismo became a live service game. I never thought Sony would be that stupid to do that to their flagship racing game.
I like this game alot but I agree with you. I really, really hope that we get a bunch of newer cars in dlc. Also, I want the Nascar challenges back!
I was practically sold on GT7, but when I went to the psn store I was prompted with the add-ons for credits and immediately changed my decision to not purchase the game. Big let down...
Save editing is what made gt5 so fun. I had countless engine swapped stuff that me and my friend raced in our lobbies
Forza Horizon 5 had the issue of cars being too easy to obtain, and therefore having no progression.
Now, Gran Turismo 7 has the issue of cars being way too hard to obtain, and therefore *also having no progression.*
Forza Horizon 5 is an open-world Arcade for kids who have just migrated to a driving game after Fortnite. Wait until Forza Motorsport 8 comes out. Gran Turismo will be shaking in their boots.
It's all about the balance. All of the older numbered GT titles got that balance right. GT7 on the other hand didn't.
We're evolving, but backwards
@@nickwilliams6621 Yeah, Their engine is cool and all, But will it have fusion jazz?
Forza is worse than gt7
UPDATE: Gran Turismo director Kazunori Yamauchi stated there will be updates in April to increase race payouts and now players can get a free 1,000,000 credits
7:20 The cheating in online race happens anyway. People already found exploits to have cars beyond regulations in races. The only "cheating" PD wanted to address was to protect the value of their goddamn microtransaction!
Meanwhile in Forza Horizon 5, I have 700 cars and almost 30 million. Haven't spent a cent on micro-transactions. Didn't take that long to get them all either
Ok
Man, I miss playing splitscreen games with friends over. It's not a big deal to implement, I don't know why nobody does it anymore.
Because why let 2 players play together with a single copy when we could make them buy 2 copies instead?
That's the sad reality.
Yeah I’m from the era of sit side by side and play together with buddies, so sad my kids won’t ever experience this. Why not have the option at least
The switch exists to fill that gap
@@GabrielShitposting +1 copy and +1 console,they are pretty smart......Nintendo has lot of splitscreen/local co-op games in their library,atleast there is some hope there for pure shared fun...
Really sucks that something this simple,even if it has to be restricted,is totally skipped by software houses.
I think the last game to have that was Black Ops 3
I’m so glad you covered this topic especially since you have a huge following
Ross from Accursed Farms is a big advocate for reporting and saving games as a service and companies killing online only games. It's really appalling that companies are doing this with games people pay money for now.
It’s such an excellent game !! What a shame it had to go this route. Breaks my heart as a big GT fan.
I’m happy I still haven’t bought this game yet and I definitely won’t get it if they continue keep putting pressure on us to buy these garbage micro transactions.
Same exact fuckin’ story here, brother.
I think the same issue existed in GT4, but people didn't mind because of the B-spec driving mode where it's the AI driving/grinding for you.
I wish they implemented that.
You know its bad when you recognise the wheel from the little blue ring
It's absolutely depressing because we've lost a shit ton of games that were online only, some I wish I had the chance to play. It should be a legally enforced requirement for game companies to either publish the server software for a game they plan to shut down, provide a peer to peer alternative, or just make the server software open source so the community can support it. Killing games is not acceptable when people poured money and time into this medium. The most frustrating part is how the media and people who don't understand this issue always sees games as a disposable medium. Could you imagine the fucking rioting in the streets if every streaming platform, every movie shop, every archive suddenly got rid of Citizen Kane? Or even the Louvre destroying The Mona Lisa? Everyone unanimously would think they were out of their goddamn minds. But for some reason, games are the exception.
You can't really compare a modern game to the Mona Lisa my dude lol
@@skullcat1378 Then again, this IS Gran Turismo we’re talking about.
@@skullcat1378 Deus Ex is the Mona Lisa of videogames in my opinion.
There, I just did.
@@skullcat1378 ...why not?
@@skullcat1378 games are digital art at the heart of it. So what exactly is the difference?
It's about data mining. People are freaking out about metadata - and they should - but they're absolutely and willfully ignorant regarding the volume of data collection and monetization that is currently happening in video games. True Story.
Hey Muta, I'm playing P3 FES and Persona 2 Innocent Sin rn, how far are you into Persona 3 and how are you liking it so far?
I like to buy variety games on consoles when I go to my cottage (electricity only at night, no internet) and not being able to play offline sucks
Not everyone has stable internet or wants to play online
At this point I consider Playstation a net negative for gaming. They're on another ego trip and it's worse than the ps3 era.
I am also getting sick of the combination of online and gaming. There are several single player games that I would want to play in the future that will have features missing because severs won't exist. I've also had online ruin modern single players games. Part of what made me give up on MGS5 was that Konami forced you to be online to use some weapons and use a large portion of your in game resources. When the severs were down, you were locked out of those things.
I remember being a big playstation simp when I had a ps3 in middle school, and all of my friends played Xbox, I would always make jokes that Xbox is inferior, and when the ps4 I was super excited, not knowing it was a serious turning point for the worse
Xbox's entire business model is online only soo..
ALL console gaming is like CANCER comapering it to pc gaming. paid online, singleplayer online, more expensive games, dumb down interface and settings, NO REFUNDS even if game is broken or misleading marketing.
I like playing on console but when I think about it it gives me ebola :P
@@mnap89 The trade of though is 4 year early access and very few AAA games made specifically for PC. Also devs basically are always E-begging to finish projects. The steam storefront is like a 1000 channels of cable, you spend more time looking for something to play than playing. I have about 40 games on steam and about 100 games total on all launchers and I can't think of one memorable high end experience than I can't play on a console. Also its your fault for buying games without research. We live in an age of overabundance of information. If I buy a product without doing my due diligence I don't take it back to remind myself to be more cautious in the future. Not pre ordering or playing during early access is standard operating procedure at this point. Another thing that annoys me is that PC players have a superiority complex that is unfounded. Most people on average have weak to middling systems that the PS5/Xbox dusts into the dirt. Basically a PC is a place to play mulitplats adapted from consoles with better choices on a machine that can do other things than game. Basically PC are software peasants and console gamers are supposedly hardware peasants. I like pc but to say its the only way is to miss out on the most impactful games that have been offered in the last ten years at the time of release. Game of the year games.
@@joshuasterling2144 But even Forza Horizon doesn't need internet to play the game.
So pretty much it seems like they're about equal in terms of actually doing it
Thanks for covering this. We’re all pissed they did this. I don’t understand the logic. They want the game more balanced so people don’t do the same race over and over to gain money so rather than buffing the payouts for every other race, they nerf them all. It’s a shallow attempt at pushing MTX and really just punished the most dedicated players aka the grinders. Polyphony digital really fucked up on this one
It is important to go back and relive old games,
if nothing else,
but to prove that the game has improved in some way.
Thanks for this! I was going to up Gran Turismo 7 and now I’ll get the previous version. The only car I really care about driving is in the old one anyway.
I wasn’t really interested in GT7, but I understand how upsetting this is for the people who love GT.
I finished GT 1 and 2 100% and GT3 to about 98%. One of first titles I obsessed over and put waaayyyy to much time in.
This is super sad.
This video earned you my subscription. Thank you! I too am a Old school player since 1998 and GT1 and MGS where my first game for the PS1
We definitely had GT Sport for Ps4 brother. That's what I play now. It's an online game as well but eventually they added an option to play in offline mode. Hopefully they will add that for GT7 as well. I still play OG games like Bust a groove, Ridge Racer R4, Driver 2, All the Grand Theft Autos, EA Skate and Guitar Hero so I entirely see what you're saying here.
The Elder Scrolls Oblivion horse armor had a slippery slope bois.
"Horse Armor Ruined An Entire Generation of Video Games"
an entire generation, and the one after that, and the one after that, and...
Even then that was a joke back then, I say TF2 did way more damage with it's Hat-based economy
lol
I still don't get why people call the slippery slope a logical fallacy. Look at how far we've come.
Keep this in mind as well that even if the servers are still up in 10 years that doesn't mean that they wont be riddled with cheaters like most old games are i.e. CoD WW2 and Titanfall 1 and 2.
GTAV PC is a good example as well. lol
Online is already fucked. you can buy a 2500 hp car and go 400mph
Pointless
Depending on what type of game really mmorpg online only games tend to exist for 20+ if not more years look at gw2 and wow
Great video muta, use that g923 and pick up assetto corsa (modded with content manager) and beamng and you have the Holy grail of driving sim greatness.
I miss Splitscreen/Couch Co-op so bad. "A Way Out" was so much fun playing with my brother and the Lego Games too but idk what other games has Local Co-op. Besides the sports and Call of Duty games.
Sad to have to witness this. Gran Turismo 3 was my first video game ever back in 2004. Even though I fell out after Gran Turismo 5 due to not having console, it remained one of those game series I held as good to me. No game series is safe anymore.
gt7 is a masterpiece. it’s a curated evolving game on week 2, nobody is supposed to have expensive cars yet. there are faster ways to earn credits coming, just enjoy the journey, when fh5 came out everyone was crying about getting hypercars early in the game now people expect to be able to get a 20 million dollar car in week 2
Games back then: offline multiplayer
Games nowadays: online single player
What is a split screen is it when the TV is split in half?