What It's Like To Drive The Two Weirdest Luxury Cars In America Right Now | Jason Drives
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- For as long as anyone can remember, there has always been a fierce rivalry between the Fisker Karma and the Citroen C6. Find out which car Jason likes the best on this episode of Jason Drives. Click below for more:
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I love how americans are still surprised that Diesel Engines are nice in 2015.
+falagarius Ya, I know. Like all the diesel engines (no caps) the VW has sold us are marvelous. lol
+LotusVette84 you act as if americans cared about emissions, judging by the amounts of V8s they use, they couldn't care less about it.
+P nandee lolled. totally right.
+P nandee when a 3800lb VW is emitting as more nitrogen oxide per mile than a 6,000lb american truck that is shitty engineering
***** The Americans that buy a small diesel VW care about emissions, thats why they bought it. Looks likes you need to find another BS argument. :)
The citroen C6 is a very good luxury car... more reliable than a BMW 7 series or Mercedes S class of the same year, but with better suspensions and more standard features
It was against 5 series and E class
@@SDZKProductions thought the c5 was no?
@@Karl-pu5cn C5 vs BMW F30?
C6 BMW E60, I might be wrong, but thier size segment is similar
yeah I would love to know how a Citroen C6 got here legally, it's a nice looking car, yeah I know that the DS series is better, but I still love the C6 design
+Elizabeth Cherry The DS series is meh at best. The only car worthy of the DS badge of recent years is the DS5, it actually looks unique. The DS4/3 are just bland economy cars :P
+Elizabeth Cherry PSA still have a litle subsidiary in the US. Apparently some modern Peugeot and Citroën are regularly spotted in New Jersey.
There is an article explaining how that particular example was imported to the US, I guess with a bit of searching it will be easy to find :)
+Akorus That wouldn't explain why they would have spent the money to DOT/EPA certify them. I can only feature there must be some billionaires that wanted it to happen.
+Alvin Brinson Where I live you can have things imported as orvs, and then the state has a process to make orvs street legal. Which is basically just taking it to the local pd, having them verify the existence of bumpers, seat belts, a windshield and proper lights.
The Citroen C6 is one of my favorite cars. The Nash Metropolitan is one of my favorite cars. This is a very good video.
+N30nH41l Basically it follows the legacy of the DS, doesn't it? You really have to commend Citroen for sticking to their qualities for so long, unlike Peugeot who pretty much screwed up their brand. I just hope they replace it with something sensible that follows along these lines. Same smoothness, but with a plug-in hybrid drivetrain like the Chevy Volt maybe?
Yeah. If I could import anything, even paying full price, it would be a black, turbo C6.
+N30nH41l How the fuck do you like that ugly son of a bitch car dude?
+Tommybmx ! Yeah I don't get it. I was waiting for them to show how amazing the interior was, and that looks like ass too. It's got a freaking keyboard in the middle like it's from the 80s. It has way more plastic, flat squares and bad design than the Karma, yet it was aiming to be a luxury car? I guess the suspension is good, but you need more than just that. The Karma to this day always turns heads. I really think if they didn't screw up by making it a hybrid, they would have sold boat loads. That car with the battery pack under you like the Tesla would have been amazing. It just looks like a low, wide sports car, then you realize the Model S is twice as fast and way more spacious.
+iSOBigD you should know that the C6 is much older than the karma. it was built from 2005 till 2012.
who the hell requested this match up?
+Ali Cheddadi that citroen is so ugly
+Ali Cheddadi indeed, these cars are incomparable. Despite what you might think of their designs (both are outspoken), the Citroën is a 10 year old and very dated model while the Fisker is only a few years old. The most expensive C6 I can find online costs 39 grand, while the CHEAPEST Karma goes for 10K more.
+Schnitzel Stephan the karma is a broken piece of shit. the C6, albeit ugly, is a solid, reliable car.
and that's coming from someone who DREADS citroen modern junk.
+cameron-scott smith I think it looks gorgeous, it looks so different from everything else and it stands out from the predictable and boring luxury car designs of 2005.
***** Different doesn't mean good.
Ah dude, this is the first time I have seen that Citroen in my life and I'm in love.
Man that color combo on the Fisker interior makes my eyes hurt.
The interior colors at 2:43 remind me of two shades of diarrhoea - haemorrhaging and non-haemorrhaging…
The yellow-brown color is the exact same shade as "baby poop" camouflage.
Yeah it's disgusting man
It's like someone skinned Obama and Trump.
That was the ugliest leather I've ever seen. Honestly, how much spray on tan was that cow wearing when they skinned it? It made me want to vomit.
Citroen C6 is the most confort car on the moment 100%
C6 exist since 2005 in europe
Murilo Santos totaly true but .. haters gonna hate you know ....
Show me an American car of the year 2005 with the comfort and design personality that this Citroen C6 has. This car will be great Classic.
Americans in general will never understand the art and personality of the French automotive industry. haha
Murilo Santos true ! they made this C6 with the thinking of the old citroen DS ,if you did drive a DS once you will understand !
Taylor Made smartass for 10 times the price maybe even 15 times go troll somewhere else dummy
I simply am head over heels for the Citroen C6, partly because it has so much character, yet manages to deliver on its promises while remaining affordable. How can anyone not love the lines of the Fisker = talk about visual drama & impact! As I write this, both cars are now older, yet to my eyes, they both look nothing short of fabulous, tasteful & distinctive. Compliments to you Jason for putting this video together and a salute to Sid, the owner, who has impeccable taste in automobiles!
How do you Americans even know about Citroen C6??
they have these things called airplanes and they fly. some, even as far as France.
Yes and some of you think europe is a country...
Well, that is probably because we have had to, on two separate occasions, come over there to end 2 wars. So, one can see that the insignificance of your borders under the EU reinforces that belief. Technically, you are a country now.
Yes and no, we might not have any borders now, but technically we are not a country, each member state has a president, government etc. That have to obey some EU laws but its not like in USA. Plus Eatch member state has a different languege and a bit different culture to the others and thats a thing that doesn;t make EU a country. Btw not every member state has Euro as a currency.
americans ending wars? bruce, have mercy on my sore lips
Citroen C6, a lazy sunday afternoon with the fire blaizing and some easily listening pootling along in the background. On wheels.
+Martijn Kösters where does the fire come in if you are driving?
+ElectronicPleasure engine bay. Its french.
+Furious Panda clichés, great x)
+Dédé LABINOUZE not really, every engines have fire *in* them
Côme Thiburs no way really ?
Show me an American car of the year 2005 with the comfort and design personality that this Citroen C6 has. This car will be great Classic.
Americans in general will never understand the art and personality of the French automotive industry. haha
Murilo Santos Cadillac xlr and Lincoln mkz
Murilo Santos buuuut, I still like the Citroen showed here better. Haha
@@imcrazyforwar There's absolutely no other car on this planet that compares with C6 when it comes to ride quality other than, well, other Citroëns. The suspension is a marvelous piece of engineering, too bad some retard at Citroën ceased the manufacturing of it.
C6=1 of 28000 cars...
@@Jinppa The new C4 Cactus has semi-hydraulic suspension as is unbelievably comfy for the price. The looks are polarizing, yes, but the C6 also was. Maybe they didn't abandon it alltogether. At least I wish they won't.
since when did a Citroen make its way to the US??
its not in the us yet but they are planing to launch the new DS series there
+Вадим 47 I know they will be confiscated
that's what happened to this man who imported a Cizetta v16
that expensive super car was not fitted to US standards as far as emissions goes
Gray import, the same way Crown Vics and F150s make their unofficial way to Europe
EDIT: They are actually not willing to say how. This car is theoretically impossible to import since it is NOT older than 25 years old yet and is therefore not available to be registered as a collection car. They don't know either how they got New York state to register it.
I think I might now how they got it in, because I am pretty sure I recognize that neighborhood. Answer is money.
Yeah. I guess in the US, just like here in France, you can own pretty much what you want as long as you can pay for it.
I want a citroen c6. they're awesome.
i would hate to replace that rear windscreen on that Citroen it probably costs a bomb
I bet anything repair wise would be expensive considering the lack of parts and expertise over here.
+NFS4LFE Even here in Europe maintaining that Citroen is super expensive.
+Protector of the Republic Oh, I'd hate to imagine it! Especially keeping a HDMI in order. They're not exactly the most reliable of things, namely the smaller capacity examples such as in the C3, C4, C5 and C8. I mean TDI reliable.
There is a strong enough Citroen presence in the US. I think parts are imported to New Jersey if I'm not wrong. That, or the tiny French Island off the very east-tip of Canada.
But by looking at this guy, I don't think he'll be too worried is a Citroen reservoir or accumulator needed looking after.
+toyotaprius79 HDMI? You mean HDi?
+toyotaprius79 HDMI LMAO!!!
Although it looks a bit odd, I really like the C6. Great car!
That guy in the back seat looked pissed. Like "look at this peasant driving my fancy cars."
It's amazing how people's tastes can diverge so much. I am a C6 owner and I might be biased, but I find the design very elegant and appealing to the eye. I like big cars, I like sober cars I like aerodynamic cars, and the C6 design joins together those qualities. It also has a nice retro-art-deco sugar that I particularly like.
Not saying it's the best car in the world - the quality of the materials is not BMW or Mercedes level and the HDI engines had several design flaws that made them fail much more often and heavily than they should. They are also not the cheapest car to service, because they are complicated and difficult to work on. A lot of mechanics don't want no part of it.
I still think it's probably the best car you can get for the price if you are after youngtimer, quasi-luxurious sedans, mostly because the price is ridiculously low nowadays, probably much, much lower than you are thinking. It's really a joke, at least in Europe.
About the acceleration - those not-to-reliable engines are pretty powerful, with lots and lots of torque for European standards. The same engines were mounted in Range Rover's (or Land Rover's? I can't remember) expected to perform decently off-road.
It's also a car from another era, designed and fabricated following criteria and tradeoffs that are not, and probably won't be fashionable or even legal in the years to come.
To me, it's the French equivalent of those Eldorados, Toronados and Lincolns from the early 70's: the last cars from an era and in a sense the last cars of a brand, cars that were expected to have an identity that won't appeal to most but will make the rest fall in unconditional love.
But that citroen is like 10 years old wtf
Citroen C6 exist since 2005 in Europe.
Not a problem, c6 is from the future
sorsorsor11 To me it looks ageless, in the tradition of the great DS.
@@lilolockPR no, its 2006.
easily the best car in the world, the c6
The C6 is absolutely gorgeous. Who says otherwise has absolutely no sense of aesthetics.
It's a good car but is really wierd
No, cause it's an opinion (beauty is in the eye if the beholder)! I mean personally, I like it, but that back window/ boot lid is weird looking
@@kurtsudheim825 Exactly, it's subjective!
Both great looking cars. the C6 is awesome! A luxury car that feels both classic and modern. Good stuff
S.O.S.
I am 3:41 minutes into this video and NOBODY has yet addressed how they got a Citroen C6 into the USA & plated.
Jalop, help a guy out because I want a Brera V6 AWD really REALLY really really bad. Toodles!
easy bro. ill ship one over to you.
That should have been the whole point of the video ... How did they get a post 1991 era Citroen in the US to begin with lol ... All I can think is diplomat license.
why should post 91 be a problem?
You can't register.
+youran1 it's gotta be 25 years old to register an import in the states
All Karmas came with an automated front plate?
+boy638 yes
+Nikolai Priess No
+Guess who's back No they didn't. m.cars.com/vehicledetail/#vdp?listingId=647105784
Both fantastic cars but for now I have to do with a Citroën C5 V6 (petrol).
Are Citroens rare in the US, we've got loads in th UK.
They are not sold officially in the USA.
+GhibliDisco that is probably the only Citroen C6 in the US.
yes... at least that I know about. just cause I've never seen one before
+GhibliDisco not sold and due to EPA regulations, impossible to import unless over 25 years old
What if I told you it was Mercedes, a german company, that lobbied for that law so it could protect itself? so the law was actually to protect Mercedes by preventing people from importing cheap euro benz models
US automakers had nothing to do with it and never gave a shit
I used to own a Karma. Sold in late 2013 after 18 months of ownership... Lost about 60k on that car...
Karma looks aesthetically appealing.
Excellent Ebs ! *not appealing
Sharjeel A. It looks better in person than on video.
Renard Soro maybe
Renard Soro pics or it didn't happen
Love the C6. One of the best Citroen's ever.
The Fiskar Karma is really an impressive looking car.
How'd u get a c6 into the states? It's one of my dream cars, I'd love to get one here
Must be pretty tough,it's easier to get an American car in Europe than an European car en America,your regulations seem very strict,but if you find a way well enjoy it
through Canada, used.
bruce s wait, citroen sells in canada?
They bring this car from Belgium.
Murilo Santos got me thinking how to get one out to LA
I drove the Citroën C6 3.0 HDi two years ago here in Luxembourg. It also has a V6 diesel engine but that one makes 241 horsepower. Amazing luxury even at high speed. 190 km/h and not much sound gets into the inside. Also the suspension is probably the most comfprtable in the world. I really enjoyed driving it around town because many people looked even though its not that uncommon here in Europe. I also loved the rear spoiler working and how the front always lifted like in a speedboat when you accelerated faster. Ahh.. amazing car to say the least. Not for everyone but id love to own one.
Back when i was still in automotive school there was also this C6 on the shop floor and I would be playing with said spoiler because you can move it with your hands from the outside
Sitroh-en
sitrn!
+holnrew Lemon.
+Majestic_Username32 They are separate but not to near the extent that OP is pronouncing. he's saying citrowenne if anything. he gets it pretty close at 3:23 and generally later in the video but not at 0:23.
2:54. Why do I fancy a caramel chocolate drink right now?
the reality is this though that Citroen in the usa is worth a shit ton more then the fisker like way more
How Many Cintroen from 90s ist it? Veeery few.... IF someone accept the elder generetions knew them. How many Citroens Diesels? Problobly the only one i think :/ I heard that it's very much job to import cars to US that have never been sold in US. I feel very proud that is a Diesel european car ACCEPT VAG... :) Even Volvo has better Diesel's than it's petrol engines... 0,5 l/km is'nt bad...
They are cheap cars a fisker cos 100 thousand and a Citroen cost 17 thousand in us currency
The Fisker was 10 thousand when it was new. a used one is exactly the same price as the Citroen
i dont really get what you're trying to say. but the citroen c6 is from 2005 to 2013 or so.
barenstil55 I made a typo, I meant to say that the fisher was 100 thousand USD when it was new. Fisker isn't in business anymore so it is impossible to get it new. A used Fisker Karma is around $10,000 and a used Citroen in the US also costs $10,000. They are now exactly the same price now.
The Citroën c6 has the highest passenger safety level that a car can obtain in Europe, so I can't forsee any issues with it not being allowed to be imported based on that. Also European emissions standards are very high, although ours are based on co2 and not nitrogen. I think reading between the lines looking at the standard of some of the American cars on sale in Europe, your import restrictions seem to be in the interests of your domestic manufacturers and not safety or emissions.
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Having lived in France I love the quirkiness of Citroens - I had a C2 that was a hoot to drive. Shame there's none here. I'd love to see them and Peugeot and Renault here as I think there small cars might do well like the FCA cars.
C2 is such a cool car too :)
How is the C6 in the states???
+nrrm1127 They had to have imported it.
That's a given, but the C6 isn't legal to import in the US yet. 25 year rule means it's got a while unless it's here on Show and Display
Not sure. I looked it up and apparently this one was imported legally. Don't ask how hahaha.
Has to be show and display - pretty hard to forge a VIN with one of these
+nrrm1127 Somebody must have bribed somebody they know personally in ICE, DOT, NHTSA, EPA and whoever else is interested in illegal imports.
this is the classiest review I've ever seen, not boring, but relaxing
C6
Every time you mispronounce Citroën I wince.
he actually pronounces it correctly
+Stijn Rikmanspoel Yeah, the 'muricans mispronounce it as sit-tron
+Stijn Rikmanspoel I'd say so, too.
North American accents don't change vowels in the way that central European accents do, so it sounds more like Citrowen when this guy says it. There's a "pronounce Citroen" CZcams video and you'll see what I mean -- for a French person they go from o to ë in a softer manner.
So the guy in the video is about as close as an American could realistically get without spending considerable time speaking French.
+Zero Shima IIRC the Top Gear UK guys do so as well.
I actually like the C6, a white one, some nice wheels, drop it an inch or two. off you go
You can't drop it. It drops itself by the suspension :)
You can choose the height, that's what Citroens are all about. Their hydropneumatic suspension. Active in C6.
Glad to have it in white/black, and no need to drop it, it does it on its own when the speed is right ;)
Both cars are magnificent, cannot believe I'm watching them in the same video. This is like Grace Kelly and Brigitte Bardot in the same movie.
Great video.
Thanks!
the Citroen looks straight outta 2004
Benjamin Kennedy Citroën is not selling this car anymore ^^ But you can still get a C5, looks wayyyyy better in my opinion (240hp 4cyl)
TheOrionsBike the 240hp is a 3.0l V6
Kieran Gourdel Yup the stock one! My grandfather made his C5 4cyl have 240hp by making it prepaired by Fukesato (ECU and Gearbox if i'm not wrong) it's still really reliable
TheOrionsBike oh ok. Is it the 2.2 HDI engine ? I know you can put the 3.0l HDI V6 to 290hp
Kieran Gourdel Yes it is ! It could have gone higher but he didn't wanted it to be unreliable !
Funny to see Americans think they know how to pronounce Citroën properly.
audicat you sound like an American.
audicat please don't think we're all like this. it would be sad to have a bad image of Europe because of that :) (and actually, the pronunciation is almost perfect. of course, he has a little accent)
Sit-Roe-En
Didn't know some youtuber spoke for all Americans 😒
Very enjoyable video. Thank you.
Cool video. Where did you shoot it? Very nice neighborhood streets you are using for the test.
Why do you keep saying "you sit so upright", don't you realise that seat backs move?
A lot of Europeans don't like it because they see these things all the time and it's probably the equivalent of a Nissan Altima over there, and any quirkiness probably seems extraneous. Some Americans like it because it's obscure and takes imagination to appreciate, regardless of the fact that it's a good car or not. There are just no French cars here. I've seen one dusty Citroen 2CV squirreled away in a garage next to an Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint roller from the 50's, and that's the only French car I've seen in my life. Other Americans will hate it because there's still an "I hate Frenchies" thing going on, or because it's ugly, or because it doesn't do burnouts and impress trashy girls.
It's cool if you don't take an artistic approach to cars. It's cool if you prefer not to have an imagination and just lust over RX-7's and Acura Integras and Toyota Supras and the same Chevelle that every 6th person in the Midwest has in their driveway. You don't have to have a sense of adventure (at least when it comes to cars) but take a little effort to find things to enjoy. It may not be special in Europe, but here it's a genuinely special and unique car. That you'll never be able to find parts for. I'd take almost any decent French car over any muscle car and any generic automotive appliance from Japan. Don't just accept the first thing that's shoved under your nose and say "Yep, that's good enough for me. No need to look for literally anything else to like."
That's the problem when it comes to taste and car design, people are so much used to blandness (you cannot say which Audi is overtaking you until you see the badge on the boot) and care way too much about the badge that they miss the point behind the boldness of the C6. I am French, I see this car quite often and I am still baffled by how much guts it took to design a car like this. And I truly love its design.
Tyer Estes The C6 is pretty rare in Europe too. They only ever made 23,000 or so, so they're not too abundant
Indeed, it was priced around 50.000 euro at the time , too much. Because West-European goods are a hype in China, Citroën sells very well over there. They even have models over there which aren't sold in Europe, specially designed for the Chinese market.
MrSparklespring DS 5LS is China exclusive, isn't it?
Yes, I believe so.
Hi Jason, terrific video!What model year is the C6 and what trim level? Oh, and how was Sid able to get it into the country (the model year should have a lot to do with that, the older the easier it would be)??
I swear I hear the first song on GT6 when it is Christmas time.
Wait, how can you get a Citroen in the US? I need a DS, and those plates are USA so...
Skillow Buy it overseas then import it. Expect $7,000 plus for shipping it here.
I heard someware that if you want to import a car to the US, that is of a model never sold in the US, it has to be 25 years old or older before it can be imported. How this C6 ended up in the US...???
The drivetrain must be modified to US emission standards if they are not up to it. However Citroens probably exceed it, so it was permitted.
Easy to get a DS in the USA. Just go buy it in Europe and transfer it.
Citroen sold new the ds, sm and cx new in the U.S. but that c6 is illegal in the U.S
I wonder what drugs the designers of C6 took.
+Mariux - you just don't understand. I bet you are an American.
Berenvacht No, I'm from Europe.
How does that make my opinion that C6 is ugly more or less important?
+Berenvacht To me it looks incredibly ugly - I'm from Europe.
+Mariux - I love the looks of C6.
+asatrv same here. in comparison the other C series look nice to me, especially the c4. they're the bomb!
I've seen a Fisker Karma here in Moreno beach CA it's a beautiful sleek looking ride!
Cool video, just subbed.
Avantime vs vel satis next
Avantime is too exclusive car for 6000 units .... But I have Vel Satis 3.5 i top version which is also produced in small edition ... Vel Satis has aluminum door, bonnet and boot lid. Exterior and interior aluminum accents, genuine leather interior, real wood trim, double glazing, excellent sound insulation, light weight and powerful engine, very good handling for a luxury car ....
Jason drives the Nash metropolitan?
Another two awesome Citroëns from that C6 era: C5 Tourer and C4 VTR ou VTS.
+caiovarela add the xsara vts 2.0 16v t the list
Interesting comparison. BTW: Diesels made by European & UK manufacturers have been nice, powerful, smooth & economical for some years now. Also - really important - the best background music on any CZcams video - ever.
the Citroen is incredibly comfortable
Putting a car plate with 007 on the Fisker is a shame of Bond
great video, you just got a new subscriber
Torch! Nice!
That was hilarious and awesome! Keep it up!
Oh merde, une C6 aux USA... o_0
the Citroen looks like a fucking 2003
+Garrett Mort It's a 2005 so you are not wrong
I really like this series....Goooo Jason!
I want to know who's smooth coffee shop jazz music is this? I'm dig'n it
lol,the towbar on the Citroën.
+Graham Smith many cars in Europe have that. Nothing unusual here.
+OskarK I know,I'm British but you wouldn't put one on a "luxury" car,not a proper one anyway,like a Rolls,Bentley,Jaguar etc.
Well, I've seen towbars on 911s so nothing's gonna surprise me :D
+OskarK Holy cow!,that is sacrilege,yes shouldn't doesn't mean won't,and there's no accounting for taste or class.I particularly hate those tubular racks that you see on the back of 2 seater sports cars like Corvettes etc for carrying luggage,what an eyesore,I'd really consider buying a car with a boot than one of those monstrosities destroying the cars handsome looks😉
Well, ye, but the towbars are removable, in my Alfa I have only this rack mounted which is barely visible. :P
He's a dwarf and there's plenty of room
now now.
I saw a fisker here in Saint Petersburg, Florida. It was a pretty clean car, this was in 2014, I haven't seen it since.
Very interesting about that Citroen C6 being in the US, especially considering Customs trashed a bunch of Defenders for not being old enough. Very unique and interesting vehicle though.
i actually like the Fisker Karma
Rest assured, we all have our deplorable sides.
Wait! You get citreon in North America!?
No, it is a private individual import.
+good one my friend An oil-burner! How quirky!
I go for the C6 !! Not many were sold here in Sweden,they were very expensive,but what a car !
Oh, I love the C6. It's interesting for me, as an European, to read what do you, Americans, think about this car. I can imagine that it's probably the only one in the States while in Europe there's a bunch of them. Surely not as popular as the VW Golf is but I see quite a few on the roads.
fisker is not luxury car unless you count expensive sports car in 'luxury'
***** how much to 100 km/h?
well, not that fast really
Everything wallowed in the seventies................................
+TheMadSyrupMaker BMWs didn't.
+TheMadSyrupMaker every american car did, but civilized Europe and Japan actually made good cars
Jim Garrison
In the 70s, if you wanted fast and luxurious, you bought something like a Jaguar or Aston Martin or Maserati or Ferrari or Mercedes-Benz or BMW - not a Yank shitbox with a separate chassis, leaf-spring live axle and a pathetic sub-40hp/litre specific power output. If you couldn't stretch to one of those, a Rover P6 3500S was a great car - there were some 4-cylinders (2000/2200) but the V8 was the one to have. Ironically, it used an American engine, but Buick abandoned their pioneering all-alloy V8 because they forgot to put iron cylinder liners in! Rover sorted it out and kept it in production for 35 years.
Jim Garrison Yep american cars had great powerplants. Who doesn't love a 160ps v8 which gives you 26ps per liter. Fantastic engineering! And you're so right. Americans made much more luxurious cars then Ferrari, Porsche, Maserati, Lamborghini, Mercedes, Rolls Royce, Bentley etc. etc. I'd also much rather own a 1970 Cadillac then a Jaguar.
Notice the sarcasm?
Even the affordable european cars we're far superior to americans. While you had trash like a Pinto or a gremlin, We had Fiat, Lancia, Audi, BMW, Alfa Romeo.
*****
To be fair, some American cars were awesome. I'd love a '59 Cadillac, or an early pre-emissions C3 Corvette, or a second-generation Mustang (not the "Mustang II"!) or Gen 2 Camaro.
That model of Citroën is also pretty rare in europe, or maybe just in my country. I didn't saw a lot of them in Spain, and other places of europe, last one I saw I remember it was at Nurburgring Nordschelife. I like Citroën, they are easy and funny to drive, and also confortable. Great brand...
I really think that the C6 would be a success in the US if it was legalized there. Not only they would fall in love with its appearance, but the driving is so unlike anything they've had, they would love it im sure.
"Two of the Weirdest Luxury Cars in America"
Ummm... Citroen isn't sold here? -_-
Also, if my assumption is correct, Citroen ain't a luxury brand.
You're right , besides that car is a piece of junk like most of the french cars .
Citroen however, has a luxury branch, the DS series, which is comparable to any top of the class lugzurry lavishmobile hand size compensators.
Absolutely untrue : they are very good these days and far more innovative and original than the boring German cars. Renault is the market leader in the country where I live (Belgium) before the Volkswagen group. Very reliable, state of the art design, better than most American cars.
no French car are very unreliable, German car are the best top quality materials, French cars are made of plastic....
Germans are nerdy so they build good stuff
German car run 10 million km whitout changing oil...
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A C6 is a luxury car in America? God help them...
+Eggman bob c6 is very nice gt luxury car. A bit like smaller s class
+Eggman bob We don't know what it is, so when it's in the video we believe it.
+Eggman bob you do realize you can count in the finger of one hand the amount of cars whit better comfort than this one right? speciality back in 2005...
How is it not luxury? All that means is above a certain price threshold and upscale. There are different levels of luxury, nothing to do with America except most cars are cheaper here
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My understanding is that the outstanding thing about the C6 is not the engine, the styling or even so much the interior, but the suspension, which soaks up all small undulations and smooths out the large ones. It's the car I would own if it was at all available here in Vermont.
This French whip is fabulous. I'd love to own one, along with a '11 Lincoln Town Car & a '16 Dodge Charger R/T.
since when is a Citroen a luxury car?
citroen makes a wide range of different car classes, the name doesnt suddenly mean it cannot be classed as so
Since always.
Luxury cars : Citroen C6??? Let me laugh!!!!!!!!
Yes... I am French....
123kant1 On peut sans doute critiquer son design, rappeler à dessein qu'elle fut un échec commercial, mais contester que la c6 est une voiture haut de gamme, c'est, à défaut d'argument, de la mauvaise foi. French or not.
200 hp and front wheel drive isn't how luxury cars are supposed to come, you need to go back to the Systeme Panhard!
La c6 fut bien le haut de gamme francais...toute équipée de serie, j ai eu une bmw et 3 audi, et bien maintenant que j ai une c6 je n'ai jamais connu plus confortable.
La voiture la plus confortable qui existe sans compromis sur la tenue de route qui rejoint les voitures sports.
Always loved the C6 since a relative had one. He actually has it still, for sale!
lol love the serial killer joke thrown in there im sure no one else got
Since when is citroen luxury car?! Don't be ridiculous
Gloc Renovierung Mainz It's crazy too how the Mercedes A class is a lorry because it's also made by the company who make the Actros... -.-
This one is. And their luxury brand DS certainly are luxury cars. I drove in one of them.
MrSparklespring i had an opportunity to drive it a few times and I'm telling you it is ridiculous how bad they are not to mention that mechanic is your best friend...
Gloc Renovierung Mainz What are you comparing it to though? What is the comparison with which it drives so badly?
P1eased0nteatme compared to any rival in it's class... generally i dont like french cars but peugeot is far more better quality than citroen or even more renault...
I pass by a fisker each day to school, some autoshop has a chromed one for display in atlanta.
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Wow. The guy owns two such rarities? Anyway. Cool video, keep making them!
Thanks Sid!
u kiddin me? back in the days, I use to DREAMM on owning my very first Citroën..and its C6! my family have sedan C5 and its fantastic!! features like auto windscreen, auto lamp initiation, makes todays car seems old when it comes standrd In C5 yearss back! if one thing worth mentioning, its def how smooth and fantastic everythg is when u drive a Citroën!
6:38 and I am kinda like "no one else in the entire US has a Citroen C6 and your totally missing the point?" lol
Both great cars!
I love the C6. In a dark color, it's a diplomatic car from France. Citroën was so ahead of it's time with the DS in the sixties: simple air ride, active front lights, injection, futuristic line, etc. The C6 is part of that legacy.
You can also get a citroen c5 with 3L v6 diesel and 240hp. Same suspension, different design. Really nice and smooth cars.
can I just say oh my God, that Citron front seat is massive I don't know how big your Jason but let me just say if I was sending that the top of my head probably wouldn't even go over the top part of the seat I'm 5 foot 2 just had to put that out there
Every time I see the Fisker's front I hear that awkward Goofy laugh, you know which one. Fits perfectly.