The Group B Cars In DiRT Rally 2.0 Are Bloody Brutal
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- čas přidán 19. 02. 2019
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The real group b drivers when asked how do manage to keep your pace up with the crowds? They responded "we have to pretend they are trees."
Lmao
Moving trees
@@diegoignacioavilesvalencia1991 seems like the phrase "a tree crossed the road" gets new definition
“They are only bushes to us-only trees; if we think these are people, we cannot drive” - Walter Röhrl talking about the spectators of group b rallys
trees that wanna get hit
Clearly not a very good simulation of Group B, as I didn't see a single spectator on the road.
think you'll find least important thing in race sims is spectator's on the track
@iTheGeek r/lostredditors
yes going full throttle through a splitting crowd was insane back in the 80s
Spectators are very important for the immersion. Bur i prefer to drive without them.
Luke Clayton r/lostredditors
6:00 best explination of the car ever!! «Nothing, nothing, nothing, turbo, BIG turbo and then a tree»
No, I think it jus sums up Group B... I don't seem to have a follow-up...
Well, that's because you should keep always some gas and keep pressure and revs up enough, even with u-turns. That's rally. First you lift gas, you just slide..
@@3M46DN1M I'm finding that out the hard way.
Except for FWD, you have to let go of the throttle a lot in order to shift weight to the front and be able to turn quickly.
yea, all the old turbocharged cars worked that way. Nothing, nothing, nothing, dead
@@DavidGarcia-oi5nt I cannot WAIT to stop using FWD cars actively, the Fulva and Corsa understeer like a bitch.
1985: Too fast to race
2020: Too fast for CZcams bitrate
@himanshu9418 Nah.. the game just runs like crap on PC
@@nobodyimportant7380 kinda agree with you, the first Dirt Rally ran so well, I can run it above 50 fps on my 10 year old i3 3217u notebook
Me, a C-tier Dirt rally player, doing Group B in historic for the first time: "Lets pick this yellow Audi, i like it, it looks like a big Go-Kart"
Me, 5 restarts later in the first course: "This is not a Go-Kart"
That's exactly how I felt :D Being used to Lancia Fulvia it didn't take long to realize that you can't just floor it like you can other cars before it.
its a Go- Krash
Dude I bought the Evo and almost uninstalled the game 😂
@@KristiansKazmers I feel like the turbo lag in the game is a tad too exaggerated so it makes the boosted Group B cars behave like they have way more power than they do.
i feel you lol
How the hell can you talk and drive in this game?
When I'm on DiRT rally my concentration tongue comes out, no chance of me saying anything clearly😂
I can't even talk lmao and if I talk it goes like (vroom vroom mom wai.. nyooom skyyyyyyrt bam)
Not just talk, pay attention to his voice, its like watching rally on TV with a commentator talking :D
Jimmy is one of the best at talking about his driving while he is driving I have seen. It is almost as if he is his own spotter no matter the car or type of race. He seems to weave his own thoughts into words on what he needs to do as most people do silently in their heads ( I Know I do LOL ) while at the same time he's able to mix in commentary about what just happened or how he needs to do XYZ next lap etc.
Yeah we get it theres a comment like this on every one of his videos
@@lukamilic exactly what i was thinking maybe a game commentator in a past life
James Hunt had the perfect explenation of the powerband of a turbocharged engine: "When you floor the pedal.. first you get nothing, but then you get everything!".
And on God are they fun, ive spent plenty of time driving powerful v8s but nothing compares to the fun of turbo lag. Waiting waiting AND WERE OFF
@@Pippy1 yeah, and you need to blip the throttle to keep the turbo's spooled up.
The turbo gauge in the 205T16 really adds to the experience
Actually funny enough for the 205 t16 Evo2 that isn't a pure boost gauge. It's a purpose made barometer to manage the most accurate reading from using the Garrett T31 (11 blades steel turbine 56.62/64.95mm in/out diameter, 7+7 blades aluminum compressor 54.92/75.95mm in/out diameter) turbocharger with air/air intercooler, Bosch K-jetronic multipoint hydraulic fuel injection when they ran them between 2.6 and especially 3.0 bar. Absolutely beautiful machine through and through. Was glad to have the chance to sit in one while over in Europe back in 2010!
@@SemiMobilLampShade you certainly know your stuff ;)
@@SemiMobilLampShade what do you mean it isn't a boost gauge?
@@superbarnie I meant what I said. A boost gauge is more specialized than a normal barometer these days. In the original Group B T16 Evo2 they just slapped a traditional barometer in the car that was slightly built up to give a more accurate reading of the boost pressure at the top end of the rev range. Other type of monitors today are commonly boost controllers as well as simple gauges for information display.
Back then the driver had to rely much more on their knowledge of the boost pressure in the T16 along with the massive amounts of lost pressure from poor shifts if the driver was making mistakes. Instead of any part really being managed by an ECU for the BEST boost via digital parameters it was mainly the driver.
It seems like a semantic based argument for me to make but the cars are special for a reason. This was a mechanical beauty and the drivers smart enough to respect and learn the car saw the most success with it. Just remember the T16 used a barometer.
@@SemiMobilLampShade A boost gauge is a barometer though. "Boost gauge" is a colloquialism of barometer, specific to the automotive world (obviously).
video freezed because it couldn't handle the brutality of the 205
i thought was the only one
CZcams makes a lot of oopsies
At 3:55, Jimmer’s camera also froze, meaning it was CZcams’s fault
XD yeap
This thing is my favorite car in the whole game
The YT algorithm just recommended this channel and I've been missing out! From the "Verstappening" to racing a real Mclaren and "oh so relatable" shed reveals the broadcast level live commentary and real world personality just shines through. New sub, big fan!
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I found it when researching for what wheel to get. So lucky i stumbled onto this channel.
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Henlo fren
Imagine this when VR comes to dirt
Keep a bag next to you in case you throw up 😂😂
@Brian Prior if you like it then, why not?
@Brian Prior nope, you'll have to get it yourself unfortunately
@Brian Prior I take a Space Cookie and start driving and after about 45 minutes it kicks in and the feeling is totally awesome !
Virus Osku 6k pc lmao go back to sleep
In DR 1 the boost gauge on this car used to just rise as the revs went up, here it looks like they modelled the turbo to work independently, that's really nice, one of the things I wanted from 2.0.
The turbo lag is even more apparent in 3rd person on the 205, it crawls forward for a second then suddenly takes off like a jet plane. I'm fairly convinced that the front wheels leave the ground lmao
@@elementalsheep2672 lol xD
I dont understand. Is that how its supposed to look irl? In DR1 it looks cooler
CbtMedic 0z yes. That’s how it looks in real life. DR1 always looked like it was just was kinda rising with the rpm. Which isn’t really how it works in real life so having it like this in DR2 makes it look cool.
“That’s just one big almost accident for that entire period”
That sums up my few years with Dirt on a controller 😆
No center diff so the handbrake would just lock the wheels, but I 'll forgive you using it. Please get the Quattro E2 out.
yeah, just use the clutch. using the handbrake without clutch should lock up rear wheels on the old cars. pretty damn sure it did on the group b cars in first dirt rally.
group b cars sure had handbrakes.
@@DeaShoost The handbrake is supposed to lock up the rear wheels, but a group b awd car would also lock up the front wheels which you don't want.
@@KalElRedKi know its will lock the wheels, but not if you press the clutch.
@@DeaShoost IRL in Group B cars it still did as there was no Center diff
@@stefanroadman4180 haha oh yeah, that's right of course, sorry about that.
Well if they made the 205 like in real life, it must be insane, as Ari Vatanen said: "We were afraid of using the bigger turbo because even with the little one we slipped on every gear". With this said, you could imagine how crazy Gr. B cars were
XxMarkitosxX “wait there’s a BIGGER one”
8:28... you upgraded the "Scandinavian Turn" to a "Viking Turn"
I replayed it 3 times just to appreciate step by step!!
When you get the "Uh-oh" followed by a laugh of relief, you know you've done well!... ^^
This is how I want to take on hairpins.
Without the risk, of course.
*Scandinavian flick
In Jimmy Broadbent's hands it's a "Scandinavian Flick". In Richard Hammond's hands it's a "crash".
And then the straight after that is quite insane
You drove that 205 like a girl (Michelle Mouton to be specific)
Isnt that a female racing driver?
@@nic_the_grekk0262 yes, she most famously drove in the group b era of rallying for audi and Peugeot with her best overall result being 2nd in the wrc drivers championship behind Walter rohrl.
@@DjDolHaus86 i remember she was talented
@@nic_the_grekk0262 She was like Colin McRae, insanely fast but perhaps a bit reckless. She'd either win or break the car and there was little in between.
Big respect to her for making a name for herself in what many would consider to be the most macho and manly era of rallying. A lot of the drivers of that era are considered some of the best there ever has been so to be on a par with them is a real achievement.
no, he sucks
You were hitting 42 PSI at points
GOOD LORD WHAT
HELP ME JESUS
I don't have a turbo, what's typical for a road car?
@@CSpottsGaming A skyline r32 gtr with stock ceramic turbo should have 14psi
@@vsahankrat7176 Wow, that really puts it into perspective. I drive a Veloster (mine is NA) but the turbo version looks like it runs stock at 18psi so 42 is pretty wild.
@@CSpottsGaming 42psi IS A LOT of boost for such a small engine
I remember Timo Salonen, a then Peugeot factory driver, saying the 205 T 16 had "enough power".
Hahaha sounds like something a finn would say
Only instance in history a race car driver would admit that so it probably had.
@@t1hero "enough power" coming from a finn means something like "i guess it'll do" or "its ok.." :D
Henri Toivonen said that the Delta S4 had too much power, in an interview just before he crashed and died... Spring Greetings from Finland to all of you Dirt Rally fans around the world.
Remember hearing something that Salonen was supposed to be in a ad in wich he drove something like 160-190km/h on a long straight but it never made into public since Timo was driving with one hand and smoking with another...without powersteering
Then you put this stage time against the Master AI and find you’re still 30 seconds slower...
Or any kind of online event lol
The sound in DiRT Rally 2.0 is on pair with Raceroom Racing Experience and ACC imho. Absolutely stunning sound from Codemasters.
The most important thing is - it adds so much to the immersion of a racing experience! Spot on!
@ Ben,
nah, DR 2.0 is much better than those , not at par, assHole
Vincent Gentle Why asshole? So unnecessary...
That is the most beautiful pedal and steering work I have ever seen. you have a talent!
That was pure filth, amazing saves mate! So stoked for Friday! That looked absolutely savage very well driven 👌
Always great videos Jimmy. Ever consider doing a “good, better, best” sim racing setup for those of us wanting to get into Sim Racing at various budgets?
cheapest setup : xbox or ps controller
cheap but good wheel : logitech g29
expensive wheel : the one that name like a racecar
I think the sound of the 6R4 might have just convinced me to pre order, thanks for the video Jimmy
Jimbo needs a ride in a real 205 T16 Evo 2
And obv one driven by Juha Kankkunen, 1986 gr B champion who drove it.
@@hcloud or Timo Salonen ;) he was badass too :) or Vatanen :D
Do you want him to have nightmares? Even the drivers said that they look back and notice how stupid they were to agree to drive those cars 😂
and some spare underwear...
John Todd still has his unregistered AFAIK a homologation special from his days as heat of Peugeot Talbot Racing, it might be the one www.topgear.com/car-news/hot-hatch/stunning-peugeot-205-t16-auction-and-you-want-it
I really enjoy your videos. The commentary ontop of the amazing driving skills is very fun to watch!
You are quite a multitasker Jimmy. Talking thought the the crazy difficult driving with clutch and hardest settings and not making any big errors. I'm speechless.
This is one of the most exhilarating clips of a video game I’ve ever seen
Cody’s have nailed the engine sounds. Best of all racing titles in my opinion. 👍🏻
Fantastic vide God damm the sound of that engine sounds SO GOOD
I'm so glad this got recommended. Subscribed 👏👏👏
Imagine if they had spectators over the track and parting like Noah and the Red Sea. The immersion would be immense
"One big almost accident" sums group B up pretty nicely
Oh man that was so fun to watch. Thanks dude.
Just felt like letting you know that I am a new viewer/sub and the way you get excited about playing and how into it you are have put you as my primary source of entertainment these past two weeks. Keep up the good work. :)
Call me crazy, but I reckon Codemasters needs to bring back the GRID series... and turn that into a full-on sim series.
Grid 2 was such a missed opportunity!
Most of the draw of the first game was the absolutely crazy difference between it and every other game of the time in terms of the interaction with the environment, other cars, and the running of your team/sponsors and liveries.
Ever since Grid, Codemasters has for some reason consistently scaled that way down with each new game, so as far as I know the first game is the only track racing game with individual tyres in the huge stacked barriers around the tracks, hired teammates, simple but effective livery and sponsor customisation, fighty AI and really weighty gritty wrenching crashes. The trend of amazing sound design started with this game too.
It still holds up, but If they released Grid today with weather, pitstops, more tracks, and realistic handling, I think I would cry tears of joy.
@@C.I... Codemasters was pretty much on the verge of going bankrupt for a while around the time iirc., so it's not a surprise the projects suffered (see cockpit view in Autosport for example)
Grid has and always will be my favorite racing game of all time. I played that game every night for hours! I had one great race that is hard to explain but it had the room chatting how I won. It was a great feeling, miss it so much.
Eonymia
I loved the dash-cam view in Grid Autosport though. They were like the dash-cams in the original Dirt rally and Dirt 4, which i thought looked perfect. Dirt rally 2.0's dash-cams look just like a second cackpit view but with the wheel missing. It wouldn't bother me if you had more adjustment in camera position in cackpit view, so you could adjust it to a position that looks correct with a steering wheel.
Out of interest, guys, how does GRID 1 hold up as a sim? I see people referring to it as "arcadey" but with all the assists off it still seems pretty difficult and finnicky to me, other than the lack of weather/tire wear/refuelling.
The heel and toe man that's beautiful.
Man, I love your enthusiasm, I am patiently counting the minutes until it goes live. Nice one Jimmer!
Lovely vid. The sense of speed and fun really comes across
Amazing. Now the only thing that the game lacks is a realistic damage model so we can see the effects of rally driving on the car
NANI? Left foot braking technique?? O.G rally skills. Nice. Hiting like asap.
This is an awesome video, as usual! You drive like an absolute monster. Good work!
That was an absolutely crazy 205 ride along with you man, awesome. Glad I preordered.
Phil mills is a great guy, i did my work experience with him in high school taking a mk2 escort apart for him, very fun very nice aswell
That 205 is just mental. Wow. And both cars sound insanely good!
Jimmy, just stumbled across your channel. I had no idea that SIM racing could be so real and immersive. It looks great fun. So much so that I am thinking of spending the money I was about to drop on road bicycle on a direct drive setup like yours. Loving your work.
Group B...you mean unBOXing video!!!eh eh eh
Ree Ree Ree Ree Ree Ree
No
You could also try the lancia delta S4, the twin-charged group B car. Love your videos
Thats what I'm waiting for, THE beast of the beasts, and the quattro ofc!
Yeah, me too
That thing is an absolute monster
I feel so much more confident in the Delta S4 than the 205 tbh.
Amazing footwork and amazing driving!! Breathtaking
I always think that I don‘t need to watch these CZcams videos since I‘ve usually seen the stream, but man do I never regret still watching them. What a ride! Just great great content Jimmy! Thanks!
Can I get a like for no reason Jimmer?
Edit: thanks Jimmer you're an alright guy
You even got a like from me :D
Me too!
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And my axe!
In real live the T16 was the easiest Group B top car to drive. It was really easy to handle. The Delta S4 was more extreme, because the weak point was the rear axle. The Audi was with the front engine like an arrow. Very stable at jumps and high speed straights, but horrible to force into corners.
Was the t16 a front or mid engine car?
@@jamesferro433 offset mid rear engine. Watch any thousand lakes rally footage to see it jump.
@@mountjoy23 ah okay thanks!
And by far, 6R4 was one of the hardest because of the short wheelbase and the instant torque.
@@jamesferro433 Mid-engined, but offset to one side. Also with the way the engine rotated if you took you foot off the accelerator when going over a jump it would rotate the car downwards.
As a newbie to the DiRT series i'm amazed you are able to give commentary while simultaneously driving way better than I would dream of myself doing.
Bloody Brutal Driving man, very good stuff Amazing Review.
"I'll let you listen to the engine"
*notifications go off*
FML
Delta s4 you should’ve ran bro . Easily the craziest group b car. Twin charged animal
The smile on my face while you were at it in the 205 😊 Thank you for this entertainment
wish u tried the audi quattro
He just started making videos of dr2, I'm sure he'll get to it
You mean Delta S4?
Delta AND audi Quattro :p the holy grail ! :) @@1999Almaz
i adore the thr 6r4 love the oddballedness and that engine OOOOH my god
Whenever I feel a bit geeky for getting what I get from sim'in, I watch this and know that I am not alone. I appreciate your channel.
This is the first of your vids I’ve watched and got to say superb stuff love your enthusiasm and driving ability got yourself a sub keep up the great work
Hey Jimmy, I know it'll be adding to the screen full of screens, but would it be possible to add a small cut-in at the top right for a trackside replay camera?
4:10 “Jump to light speed”
WOW.....some sick driving. Enjoyed that
Holy crap! Thats mad! Awesome driving!
I have a tip for you? Try clutch kicking through the corners when it’s bogging down the motor
I know about clutch kicking. The reason I didn't do it in the pug was to demonstrate the power band of the turbo.
Jimmy Broadbent oh damn, Jimmer with the facts.
Finally a decent sound for 205 T16 on Codemasters.
I'm more of a flight sim guy but your enthusiasm in every video that I've watched is addictive; have now subscribed. (I'm also playing more Dirt Rally and may even buy a wheel...).
i really liked how you explained car and engine mechanics, like explaining what a car thats na and how its compared to a car with a turbo in it.
I hope the Opel manta 400 returns for dlc and the Hyundai i20
Please crash so I don't feel bad about myself
hey fbi
You sounded like an official Eurosport reporter, I enjoyed that very much. And the whole video, thank you.
Absolutely awesome how you controlled the T16 was just wow 👏🏻
I wonder how a rear wheel drive group b car handles in this game.. must be rediculous
shit, must be deadly irl.
Still waiting to hear the best motorsound out of rally car..... Audi
These group B cars are so much fun to drive! You slayed it with both cars! Nice driving, even if you were right on the edge, you still managed to stay out of the trees! 👍🤘🤘
This guy plays from this pov, instant sub. Screw third person or wtv u wanna call it, great driving man.
You know that a group b vid without the Audi Quattro isnt group b
6:22 I....am...speed :D kachooowww
That Peugeot run was absolutely terrifying! It was also some of the most entertaining content I have seen in a while. More Group B content please!!!
Love you Jimmy, the 205 is the best car of my childhood ! Many thanks !!
Jimmy, your voice really is load and clear by its own. You don't have to turn down the volume! I also want to appreciate the game a bit, please ;)
You are basically both shouting because for you it is still that loud, but then you are additionally turning down the volume for us.
In a real rally car, we could still hear you and experience all the sound, so why not doing it fully realistic? I don't understand the sim racing approach, when you can't really "feel" the moment, because you turn down the volume so much, that I am basically just sitting in the office next to you.
They didn’t have a handbrake due to mechanical diffs
you know a video is good, when you go down to the comment section just to read other people opinions and discuss stuff! Great content, great driving! Im new to the sim world, just bought t300 rs gt with TH8A shifter and bought bunch of games, including dirt 2.0 and this driving here was totally impressive!
This is the first video I have ever seen of yours and it is totally impressive! To be able to talk and drive a game that fast is spectacular! You really sound like a young Murray Walker.
Safe to say this game is good then right?
No.
@@rayrauk9547 Rbr then? Let me laugh
@@MANSONIAZ What?
Well It's still a Codemaster rally game. But I will wait for the VR expansion before I get it.
@@dribrom It will have VR
7:33 haha wtf turn on captions
He just don’t wanna be a foreskin my man
That first stage was epic! About to watch 2nd run but well impressed!!
Seeing you having so much fun just made me happy
cars look too responsive, almost like if they doesn't need time to develop cornering forces
yeah, especially for a group b car on dirt. modern rally cars car be quite responsive and twitchy, especially on tarmac but this looks overkill to me.
Didn't know this was out next until I saw your vid the other day. Luvin the vids subscribed.
Congratulations! You just gained a subscriber! You're amaaaazing at this game
Never heard someone so eloquently describe racing. Subbed.
dude, your driving skills are on point.
Great video and the game looks mint can't wait to get love all Rally games and the cars sound great just like real life
Awesome man, a pleasure to watch you play. There is no way I could play and give commentary too.
those are some mad skills. respect
That T16 run was insane, nice driving!
I love alll the rally content you put up!!