Everything you can do with Combo/T-Squares and Why they are the Most Important Tool in ANY Shop
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In this week’s woodworking skill builder we’re talking about the mighty square! It really is the absolute best tool and the most important thing not to skimp on when buying. I walk you through a ton of ways I use mine everyday. Cheap squares are not accurate and have very cheap parts. I will show you where I get my squares for super cheap and how I maintain them for years to come. I really can’t wait to see what you create! Let me know what you’d like to see next. Thanks for watching! Please like, comment and subscribe. Cheers!
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I'm on my third attempt at a straight 8' saw guide. Resorted to U-shaped aluminum on a factory edge of bb ply this go-round and STILL not there. Slight bow in it after assembly. Sigh. I might start chopping up angle iron from a bed frame I found. Got any videos on making due? If I get one thing straight, all else will follow.
Try a steel stud
@@Robyrob7771 thank you
Another tip is that when adjusting your squares if you make it a habit to hold nearest to the blade during the slide motion they'll stay square longer, further away from the blade technically should cause a microscopic amount of racking tension combined with the sliding motion and rub a tiny bit harder on one adjustment post than the other, a trick I use on my Empire square that I have to tune once a year, maybe I wouldn't have to be as anal if I had an expensive one.
I like Harbor Freight squares, perfect for checking 89 and 91ish degree angles, and the built in bubble level is perfect for making sure you have some slope in a concrete form for proper drainage.
Fom the rare few times I've had to do a little bit of concrete patchwork around the home, it seems it would be brutal on many measuring tools, so good enough yet cheap to replace is the way to.
That’s not a bug, that’s a feature!
Hahahahahahaha so true!
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That is a plus or minus a degree auto add -on feature to a Harbor Freight squares.... no need worries.
Appreciate the “Blem” link. Affordable quality. Yeah!
Wow! I never knew one simple tool could do sooo much and sooo well! My mind is completely blown!! Great information, and as always great presentation.
Thanks MT!
You sir are the wood shop teacher I never had. Thank you for this video!
I can always count on your videos to give good, informative and encouraging tips and tricks. Thanks a lot!
Thanks for the Blem link. I finally found the kind of squares I've been looking for without the prohibitive cost!
I have learned so much today from you. Mind blown. You have motivated a new wood worker in the best way. Thank you so much. You rock...
My wife and I are building a B class camper van. I used this build of the van to buy several tools I think I will need to accomplish the task. Knowing absolutely nothing about wood working I have turned to CZcams for answers. You are a one stop shop for knowledge. Your presentation and delivery are comprehensive to the point I am actually learning enough to understand how all this stuff works.
Thanks for lessons well done!
Not once have I ever thought about looking on CZcams for how to use a square or the many uses for them. Love your videos
just received my first order from Taylor Toolworks and man am i satisfied! Great prices, superb quality (even the blemished tools), and super-efficient shipping! Thanks JKM for bringing this to my attention!
Dude. I just got blown up by some folks for saying that the Empires and other lower end squares are not always accurate, that they don't stay that way after tuning them, and that it is wise to upgrade, and here you are, 102 comments in and have only ONE person really hating. I'm starting to think that I'm just a magnet. HA! Great video as always!
CementRoots Sorry man I’m not really sure what you’re talking about.
@@InspireWoodcraft not sure if you are joking but I think CementRoots is saying that your videos came out with the PEC blem info and a couple days later katz-moses not only has a pile of them but an affiliate link. and by checking the cross-posted items on ebay revisions you can see stock...they have sold more in two days since this video then the last 2 years. so the, ahem, katz is out of the bag and these will either be far less available or far more expensive soon.
Scott Martin Thanks for the clarification. I see what you mean now. I really didn’t understand. If that’s the case, it would stink for my viewers. Heck I’m not even getting the affiliate kickback! Haha
@@InspireWoodcraft no prob man, least I could do, I love your videos! Anyways maybe I should back it up and not start a YT beef (lol). So this video came out 2 days after your second one which is pretty fast unless he got stuff overnighted, so maybe it was in the works. You get a ton of views too so I'm sure you are helping them suckers sell, you should try to get an affiliate link too. Taylor Tools sells on eBay and their own site, and if you look at the item revision log on eBay you can see when the stock is updated when something sells on TayTools.com (presumably). Virtually every blem tool started selling like hotcakes on March the 1st, the date of this video. Not sure how many tools PEC messes up, but let's hope it is a lot ;D
I thank both of you guys for putting me on to these - everyone deserves superior accuracy at a fair price. And made in USA is even better
I've been extremely interested in wood working for ages now. Finally moving to a space where I can start, watching your videos have been great and really exasperated my love for the craft. Thank you for all the information
Very informative - I like that you showed how they're used in other ways around the shop, not just for measuring.
Thank you my friend!
Dude you are laying down some gold here! Thank you!
The opening two minutes was so extra! "We're gonna Crush the knowledge gap!" "knock out" "bang through those" hehe. Love your energy!
Yeah, his positive energy/attitude is just awesome. He's a natural teacher. Wish I'd had him for shop in jr. high.
Wow, such a well put video about all types of squares and there uses, great tips, great way of not keeping it boring. Your an amazing woodworker… thank you for the tips and knowledge.. best wishes
Thank you for all of your informational videos. I am a beginner woodworker and am soaking up all the knowledge I can. I just ordered a PEC combo square and two 24” rulers. Thank you for the blem link.
My favorite of your videos, and that is really saying something. Thank you very much.
OUTSTANDING, you really helped me to measure up😜. Thank you for your expertise, you show off😀.
Thanks Jonathan for all the good info! Just received my blem 12' combo square in the mail today.
Great video. Before watching this, I thought I needed an Igaging or Woodpeckers little square, setup blocks, and all these other fancy do-dads, but by using a combination square for all these things and more, it's already paid for itself. Thank you for the first person to give an honest and informed opinion about squares. So far I've watched a half dozen videos that mostly wasted my time.
Love my 6" blem PEC. The satin finish is amazing to use and eliminates glare. 👍
Great video Jonathan. Seen a lot of these tips scattered about in different YT videos, but you've got so many uses condensed into this one video, this will be my go-to source ( until I can remember them all ) for guidance 😉 thanks again.
This video definitely helped me to properly use my squares, especially for marking. Thanks!
I have a 2 double squares from PEC and Starret (6” and 4”) and a 12” Starret combination square. I use the Starret for machine setups and the double squares for layout and joinery. Good ones help with precision and I don’t regret spending the money on good squares.
What you are calling a t-square is actually called a double square. Every t-square that I've seen consists of a long ruler with a perpendicular end that is not adjustable (not sure if there are adjustable t-squares or not). In either case, very informative, and I picked up some tricks alone the way :)
Love this dude. Always great content.
This makes my OCD happy.
Good stuff. Always picking up solid info from you. Thanks.
Another thing a good square gives you is confidence 👍😊
Information dense, to the point, and practical. Thank you.
picked up a 6" double square thanks for that tip on the website
Thanks a bunch for all the info. Great video!!
WOW. thank you so much for the tips. I bought one of the Blem squares and saved a ton. :)
Hahaha, I wish I could show you what my dad's old combo square looks like...perfect for drawing waves in a uniform manner.
I enjoyed this SO much! Thank you!
I agree, combo square is the jam for everything
Great vid, great personality, good information that I've been looking for.
Just picked up a Pec Blem 6 inch double square and a 12 inch combo square with free center finder for about $64. I couldn't be happier. Over the years I just couldn't get myself to pay so much for a Starrett. Good looking out. I'm a very happy woodworker today. Thanks again!
Great video and great advice! It’s expensive to go cheap on tools, a good tools lasts a lifetime
Great video! Learned a ton and picked up some blemished squares.
Great video! Thanks for all the tips!
Love your Matt Estlea marking knife........good info on the squares thanks
Yup, love combo squares.
Great video 👍!! Very informative, going to get all my squares out and check everything for squareness now 😃 😂
Thanks a lot for those tips, super big help!
very nice video, and great information. thanks for putting this together.
I inherited a book called Steel Square Pocket Book from my grandfather. I think it was a his textbook from school. It was from 1903 and has tricks (I call them tricks cuz I’m ignorant) for marking out all kinds of stuff really fast. It’s mind blowing all that you can do. A lot of it is based on the ratios of rise/run of the square.
I just purchased a PEC blem combo square and folks, and the difference between this tool and the Stanley/Sears/Irwin models is night and day. The head itself weighs more than an entire Sears 16" stainless steel combo square. There is absolutely no slop in the fit between the blade and head. The markings are super clear and the edges are tack sharp. What you're paying for: 1) better steel 2) extra labor to mill the parts to higher tolerances 3) higher quality control, resulting in a single tool that can serve many different purposes, as Mr. Katz-Moses so elegantly explains.
Dude, thank you for helping a brother out! I love your videos and can tell a ton of work went into editing them---you get to the point quickly and clearly and we're lucky to have someone who is not only a talented woodworker but also a teacher (MOST of us cannot teach, contrary to popular belief).
You nailed it bud!
Thanks Jonathan!!!!
You said 1,000,721 I only counted 1,000,719 I guess I can figure out the other two.
Thank you very much for sharing. Very informative and I really appreciate that.
Great video Jonathan I’m in the hospital again but watching your videos makes me feel like I’m in the shop, and I can’t wait to get back in there.
Fell better bud!
Nice overview, I learned a few things.
Excellent timing. I was debating ordering a set of Woodpecker's one-time combination/ double square set for $250+. They are doing their production run and tonight is the last night they have the ordering open. Glad I didn't because I have a 4pc. combination PEC at work I really like but was having a hard time justifying buying a second set at full retail price especially with the additional features included in the Woodpeckers. Ended up ordering a blemished 4pc. combination and 6" double for $80. Plus it came with free 7pc. bradpoint drill bit set and free shipping. Thanks for the tip Jonathan! Love your channel. Keep up the great work!
Man I could kiss you! The info on blem squares is an absolute game changer. I have only been woodworking for a couple of years now, and as of late, I have become obsessed with the facts that cheap squares hurt more than help. I have recently purchased a 6 inch PEC square for full price, and it has honestly become one of my most prized possessions in my shop. Since getting it, I have been determined to purchase a 6 and 12 combo square from PEC, but couldn't bring myself to spend 90 bucks on a 6 inch combo square. I just purchased the 6 inch double blem square by PEC from the site in your link. 35 dollars to my door. That's with shipping and handling. It is one in the morning and I was crouched in my bedroom using the light from my computer to enter my card information because I absolutely don't want to waste another second without such a great tool at an amazing price. This might have been the most helpful video of my woodworking career yet, because it makes these high precision tools, which help me be a better woodworker, much more accessible. Thank you for sharing this link. If you can get a kickback from Taylor Tools from me ordering with your code or something, please let me know because I will be ordering the 12 inch combo very soon. Thank you for sharing this awesome secret!
I realize this is a year old, but I was looking for ways to up my game, Thanks for sharing your knowledge in a very articulate manner. I always enjoy watching your video, but I always wind up spending money buying more tools, btw, love the flip stop.
Sweet stuff. Gonna be picking up a blem square thanks for the link
Thanks for the tips!
I have never owned any good marking tools. All bought from Home Depot and used empire rules. Just went and bought all new blemish rules for under $70. Thanks for sharing this knowledge and maybe I will get to that next level now 👊🏼
Bought two blem squares, used the money I saved to buy your dovetail jig. Thanks you!
Great information, outstanding presentation. The like to blems has some great deals
It’s good to be square! Thanks for costing me more money! It was time to upgrade anyway
Thanks again for an informative video
How you review tools I feel that I will be ordering tools that are going to be very helpful and accurate.
I ordered your apron this month and next month I will treat myself to the square that goes with the apron
Cheers 🇨🇦
Ok, just for a second, the Danny Devito cut out freaked me out a little.
Thanks for the tips on quality measure/mark tools, went over to Taylor (yes, I used your link) and got a combo square, a digital level, angle incronometer, misc. supplies, and earned a free set of decent brad-point bits. Though my work is still @ the home carpenter level, I hope to step it up and you hipped me to some great deals on the kind of accurate tools one needs to up their game. Truly accurate tools make the difference between close enough for jazz (I can joke like that 'cause I'm a musician) and close enough for a woodworker. Thanks again!
Really wish I saw this before today. I just bought an empire 6" combo.
When I got home from work I did some playing around with it and my veritas layout square. Over 4.75" it is out maybe 1/32 of an inch. That is 0.00657. For most of my needs that is sufficient. There is also a slight high spot in the middle of the one side, that I could hone out with my wet stones, but again, it is sufficient. Especially since I will be using this to mostly marking out screw locations near the edges/ends of boards.
I am definitely going to go get a BLEM one from the link though.
PS from my experience the Empire stuff is not so much for fine woodworking, but more for general carpentry, ie building a deck or a house. I have seen precision doing that to the nearest 1/4" or if you are lucky 1/8"
Great video
Excellent video, thanks
Brother, you made my homework easy
Perfect timing. I was just thinking about getting some nice marking tools. Lol
Great tips! I love my Starrette square and worth the money. For those on a budget, I find the plastic drafting triangle square are very accurate. I got mine at Staples. It was my first square for table saw setup. Be gentle and don't ding them up though.
I bought a machinist square at Menards and used it to set up all my tools. I didn't realize it wasn't actually square and made my projects hell for months!
Got a blemmed 6" T square and 12" square from Taytools and they are AMAZING. 12" one came kinda rusty but they've both been great
The awesome content just keeps coming! Thanks for the tip on the blem squares, will definitely be shopping soon!
Awesome! Thank you.
Thanks for the tip on the blemished tools! Just ordered a combination set and got a free mag tool holder. Fantastic deal!
How for off was the protractor? Mine is off 3 degrees!
Very informative video! Keep it up!
Thanks a lot man!!! You just cost me money. :-) I've been needing to replace my cr8p big box store combination square forever.
Great info as always Sir!
Thanks Tony
I got a nice 4 piece blemished set with an extra longer ruler. Must wax/oil! Not cheap but less than half if the brand name was still on it. Blemishes are minor. Great tips!
Great information, very helpful. I have been struggling trying to find a square square, so I decided to buy a blemished one from the link provided. I got it a couple of days ago and I'm blown away by how accurate they are, and so affordable! Thanks for the tip, keep'em coming
Thanks KM! I just found the great accuracy of using a marking knife along with a good square! I'd add one to your list of ways to use them: 1,000,722 - Set the marking knife into the dimension you want and then slide the handle of the square to the knife. Accurate and you can get it down to the 64th. Also found a great marking knife: Stanley # 10-040 ... inexpensive and folds for safety in your apron.
I still use a Lufkin 18” combo square that my dad used in the 50’s. He worked in a factory and scratched his initials in the side. Excellent square. Use it all the time.
My dad too was a machinist for 60 years and left me his lufkin combo set including a 24” rule that is dead on square to this day. Quality tools never go out of style.
Great vid! I just got iGaging double square for $35 (with a 6" combination square ). Dead on accurate out of the box.
Totally agree with this video!! And, Starrett is the way to go... Get what you pay for!!
Ima shipfitter and this is my number 1 tool in my bucket, besides my welder.🤣🤣
Great video as always! I think those two people are just jealous of your dovetail skills! Keep up the great work. On a side note.....I've been using your dovetail jig like crazy lately and it's the best jig for dovetails by far...highly recommend it!!!
Thanks so much brother!
Ha, thanks for showing how that center finder attachment works. I just picked up my first 4 piece combo square yesterday just to have when the need arises. Got the stainless 24"'er from HF. I checked it out against my Swanson speed square and it is perfectly accurate. The straight edge ruler is also perfectly flat on all sides. $8.50 on sale👍
thank you Katz. oh i got the starrett combo set back in the 70s yes it cost an arm and a leg about 58$ .it still works great . the center finder will work as a saddle square too.
Thanks much for this tip.
Thanks for the video =)
5:56 this is the best. I see people doing this all the time and I always struggled with it. I thought it was just a lack of experience - in a way I guess it is.
At 7:15, you are right that the engine divisions can be used for extremely accurate layout, but it is kind of a goofy way that you do it. Opens you up to error and excessive wear of the divisions, or dulling of your knife on a hardened rule.
Instead, stand the rule on edge and guide the scribe, or the unsharpened back edge of your knife, down the division to the surface. This eliminates what is sometimes called parallax error.
I have at _least_ a dozen assorted squares including three 12 inch combination sets (a Starrett, a Mitutoyo and a cheap Chinese) two small combination squares (an Empire which is surprisingly good for what I paid for it, and a cheap one) plus three engineers squares, a precision square (which I bought from Wish and wished I hadn't because it is shite) various framing squares, a big woodworking square, four magnetic welding squares, pairs of 1-2-3 and 25-50-75 blocks which count as squares and are incredibly useful, and I must have forgotten about others like the T-square and plastic tech drawing square. These were collected over 40 years as a toolmaker, and 15 years of retirement now loving working with wood.
I loved the tip about using the grove in the combination square as a pencil notch. That was genius and something you wonder how I never thought of it years ago. A tip I would like to seen is how not to lose the retain nut from combination sets. In my case its from the protractor, and thinking about it, I could easily make one, but I am restricted to my home shop during lockdown - which our PM has just told us is now likely to extend well beyond the initial four weeks. We can't even order in tools as they are not delivering that sort of thing - I must have half a dozen items stuck at the border with absolutely no idea when they will be released. It could be months! Are you allowed to mail out your stuff right now, and if yes, does that include international (New Zealand in my case)?
Anyway Jonathan... Thanks for keeping us entertained and informed.
Great info, thanks Jonathan! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
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great detail as always....hope the thumb is healing well
Awesome video, thanks for the hook up on the boem squares, been wanting to buy a good quality square but was hesitant to shell out the $100 for a quality tool. Have my PEC 6" square on the way now for only $30.
Thank You
Very helpful. Could not find anything like this at the big box stores. Just ordered my "blems". Hope you're getting some affiliate love on that link, as I wouldn't have known about it without this video.
had me worried for a second when you said igaging, ive always had good luck with mine :P
haha me too. I literally bought one yesterday and was bummed for a sec when he said that.
Are igaging ok? I’m in the UK and the shipping for the blem products makes them pretty expensive.
I bought an iGaging base off of Amazon reviews... it was definitely NOT square... almost a full 1/16 off. It’s an easy fix though if you know how to sand/polish the feet. After doing that I got it dialed right in... now that I know about the blemished squares I would steer anyone on a budget in that direction over iGaging