Things are pretty crazy now with barbs, people re-rolling left and right. The thing is you don't even need be the highest damage player. You can win bg's the way you explained just by pushing forward stalling the enemy team staying on idol and always try to disturb the backline. The fact that you can just charge into 5 people and maybe kill 2-3 of them while keeping them busy for 10+ seconds is just insane. That's why you have people crying around all the time , but hey I'm barb,monk main since hell 1 so what can I say haha...
@@sneakytashi-diablo-immortal Yeah I noticed that as well and I am 2k+ player. I used to struggle killing people above 3k , but now after the essence mastery and all these reworks I find my self killing often mages and dh's which I wasn't able to do before. So the essence mastery is a welcome change to mid-tier spenders, but whales become even stronger, which I guess creates more issues at higher reso.
@@sneakytashi-diablo-immortal Disagree 100%. I'm a 2K Reso player and got as high as 15 on the leaderboards at one point but it went downhill once I started getting matched against mostly all 3K+ resonance players. Would barely ever get kills, die a lot, and get 10+ assists on average. Sure, can still push the backline and soak damage due to our survivability. Timing is everything for getting kills, you have to push when you know enemy players cheat death is down and their survivability skills are on CD. You get lucky every once in a while but our biggest problem as Barbs is being stun locked and unable to break free.
They never were, they have always been the 2nd or third most important class when played right to effect the outcome of a BG. And inarguably the most important class in a Vault 4v4 Match. Take 8 players and make two teams for 4v4 match with equal skill on varied team comps and 8 out of 10 times the team with the Crusader will beat the team without one. theres no work around for Banner, Team immunity and 50% team CC reduction. not talking about making a build to try and get as many Kills in a BG as possible, If were talking two skilled teams on voice coms then your going to spec your sader for that utility and if the other team does not have one, they've lost.
Disagree with the OP barb and underpowered wizard comments. As a 3400 reso barb with 1800 resist I’m still commonly stuck in 3 bone pole to black hole to death. Even a similarly reso / damage wizard can beat me in heads up because one BH and they can burn me through base health and my undying. Think game balance is very different when comparing different reso level ranges.
The OP part is the fact that you can be stuck in cc for 10 seconds, while other classes would have just been dead in 2 seconds. Even at lower resonance barbs can outlive and hold positions much longer than other classes with higher resonance.
Yes, by design. We have very little escape or avoid CC mechanics, so barbs design is to outlast the first wave, and we burn skills (undying auto-firing) to do so.
@@PNW_MX222 you cant ignore the value in a team (very stupidly) wasting every CC they have and litterally standing by you for the kill unintentionally gathering in a single spot and making themselves vulnerable to a freeze wizard or intelligent Necro wall. you always have to consider it that IF you charge at 2 necros and 2 Wizards and they litterally sit on you till you die you have effectively CC'd all of them for 12-16 seconds. and that is huge when it comes to winning a BG were seconds matter. The Barbarian prays on the stupidity and bloodlust of his opponents everyone wants to get the K/D ratio so they can complain in zone and clan chat they they "carried this BG with 15 kills 3 deaths and 12 assists" but lost while the barb went 8-8-12 and won, litterally look at what Sneaky showed at 4:28 all 8 members stacked on him to try and get the kill while his team cleared all 3 idols at the cost of 1 death... in a nutshell thats a trade every smart barb wants to make. Its comical really every single Clan in this game has a couple Demon Hunters who Bitch and moan everytime BGs open about how they lost and got MvP, how they have such a good K/D in the BG and lost. As a Barb your going to die a lot but thats because a lot of the time the most effective thing to do is put yourself in positions where you cannot survive in order to greatly increase your teams chance at winning.
@@PNW_MX222 correct, and we are in a very dps heavy environment where even 6-7k resonance whales can one shot each other at the moment in the game so the barbs undying ability is very beneficial to winning matches.
@@jasonu3741 I agree. Just saying, we aren’t overturned at every reso level. I almost think whales need whole separate tuning than the average player base in the 1750-4k range. I always rush in to slow progress and don’t care about my kills, but to either stop movement on defense or engage and slow their defenses while attacking.
All guides on Diablo Immortal pvp are like stand up comedy. If you just invest tons of money and go pvp with just three skills, you are winning everything.
Lets go tashi, your views on the game is always very interesting to me and solid, cant wait for you to be a wizard.
Tashi for president!😁
yooo so long, always waiting your upload about your Di games, good to see you again tashi
nice video! thx for wiping me in vault
what do you think about using frenzy with "Riddlerue" (Main Hand)
Why my time berseker is 30 seconde 😮
Thanks for vidéo 🙏
We need a visual queue for undying rage..Really hard to tell if a barb is in rage or not.
there is! the barb is glowing red lol
For some reason its not visible on my mobile
Things are pretty crazy now with barbs, people re-rolling left and right. The thing is you don't even need be the highest damage player. You can win bg's the way you explained just by pushing forward stalling the enemy team staying on idol and always try to disturb the backline.
The fact that you can just charge into 5 people and maybe kill 2-3 of them while keeping them busy for 10+ seconds is just insane. That's why you have people crying around all the time , but hey I'm barb,monk main since hell 1 so what can I say haha...
barbs a bit overtuned atm. can be highly effective in the highest bgs at 1.5k+ res
@@sneakytashi-diablo-immortal Yeah I noticed that as well and I am 2k+ player. I used to struggle killing people above 3k , but now after the essence mastery and all these reworks I find my self killing often mages and dh's which I wasn't able to do before. So the essence mastery is a welcome change to mid-tier spenders, but whales become even stronger, which I guess creates more issues at higher reso.
@@sneakytashi-diablo-immortal Disagree 100%. I'm a 2K Reso player and got as high as 15 on the leaderboards at one point but it went downhill once I started getting matched against mostly all 3K+ resonance players. Would barely ever get kills, die a lot, and get 10+ assists on average. Sure, can still push the backline and soak damage due to our survivability. Timing is everything for getting kills, you have to push when you know enemy players cheat death is down and their survivability skills are on CD. You get lucky every once in a while but our biggest problem as Barbs is being stun locked and unable to break free.
Sader isn’t bottom tier PvP anymore!!! 🎉🎉🎉
They never were, they have always been the 2nd or third most important class when played right to effect the outcome of a BG. And inarguably the most important class in a Vault 4v4 Match.
Take 8 players and make two teams for 4v4 match with equal skill on varied team comps and 8 out of 10 times the team with the Crusader will beat the team without one.
theres no work around for Banner, Team immunity and 50% team CC reduction.
not talking about making a build to try and get as many Kills in a BG as possible, If were talking two skilled teams on voice coms then your going to spec your sader for that utility and if the other team does not have one, they've lost.
Disagree with the OP barb and underpowered wizard comments. As a 3400 reso barb with 1800 resist I’m still commonly stuck in 3 bone pole to black hole to death. Even a similarly reso / damage wizard can beat me in heads up because one BH and they can burn me through base health and my undying. Think game balance is very different when comparing different reso level ranges.
The OP part is the fact that you can be stuck in cc for 10 seconds, while other classes would have just been dead in 2 seconds. Even at lower resonance barbs can outlive and hold positions much longer than other classes with higher resonance.
Yes, by design. We have very little escape or avoid CC mechanics, so barbs design is to outlast the first wave, and we burn skills (undying auto-firing) to do so.
@@PNW_MX222 you cant ignore the value in a team (very stupidly) wasting every CC they have and litterally standing by you for the kill unintentionally gathering in a single spot and making themselves vulnerable to a freeze wizard or intelligent Necro wall.
you always have to consider it that IF you charge at 2 necros and 2 Wizards and they litterally sit on you till you die you have effectively CC'd all of them for 12-16 seconds.
and that is huge when it comes to winning a BG were seconds matter.
The Barbarian prays on the stupidity and bloodlust of his opponents everyone wants to get the K/D ratio so they can complain in zone and clan chat they they "carried this BG with 15 kills 3 deaths and 12 assists" but lost while the barb went 8-8-12 and won, litterally look at what Sneaky showed at 4:28 all 8 members stacked on him to try and get the kill while his team cleared all 3 idols at the cost of 1 death... in a nutshell thats a trade every smart barb wants to make.
Its comical really every single Clan in this game has a couple Demon Hunters who Bitch and moan everytime BGs open about how they lost and got MvP, how they have such a good K/D in the BG and lost. As a Barb your going to die a lot but thats because a lot of the time the most effective thing to do is put yourself in positions where you cannot survive in order to greatly increase your teams chance at winning.
@@PNW_MX222 correct, and we are in a very dps heavy environment where even 6-7k resonance whales can one shot each other at the moment in the game so the barbs undying ability is very beneficial to winning matches.
@@jasonu3741 I agree. Just saying, we aren’t overturned at every reso level. I almost think whales need whole separate tuning than the average player base in the 1750-4k range.
I always rush in to slow progress and don’t care about my kills, but to either stop movement on defense or engage and slow their defenses while attacking.
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wooooow, 69% winrate when u got 7k reso. u can do it with any build ot without it
ya agreed - this is why its bad to get advices from 7k reso players
All guides on Diablo Immortal pvp are like stand up comedy. If you just invest tons of money and go pvp with just three skills, you are winning everything.