Rachet and the Galactic Patrol saves the universe (A couple years later) "If you hold all those bolts. You're not helping the economy, come and by the Pixelizer. Rachet: "SHUT UP, SHUT UP, GOD JUST SHUT UP!!!!! You've been bothering me for YEARS. When will I get through that thick skull of yours, that I will NEVER WANT TO BUY THAT GUN!!!!!"
Man. And now I'm remembering the original game. Where there was tutorial dialogue. One of the first ones? A message telling you that you could turn off the tutorial voice in options. Because developers were considerate that way, back then.
@@IBroughtDiv i liked the Help Desk Lady. It adds the immersion for me that Ratchet has a built in UI that communicates with him about info. Like a Jarvis
@@hwanniggles187 The monotone voice of that lady became a part of Ratchet and Clank for me, something you leave on intentionally even if you've played the game a ton of times already.
Pillow Case And apparently Insomniac said it was really hard to program the pixelated enemies too, what a shame they had to annoy us by spamming it at us
Vendor Guy? Where, I don't see him, when I open the Vendor in the Reboot! Talking about the vendor, do you remember the old animation, where the cube rebuilds into the shop? That was never done again, and also removed for the Report. Press Triangle to open a new Window, it doesn't belong to the environment.
i know right!!! and now they made him into a cute kid-friendly charter but why!!!! That's not what Ratchet is supposed to be!!!! Ratchet is supposed to be a smart guy with guns and very cool. I don't understand insomic going with this "New Direction" With Ratchet and clank, i what the old Ratchet back
Insomniac is trying to appeal to a broader audience, namely children, so they're dumbing down pretty much everything from a narrative standpoint. Its very reminiscent of what happened to the REAL Teen Titans and how its become Teen Titans Go. Pandering/Dumbing down for kids.
@@Energizer720 Things we need: 1. Jak 4 2. PROPER PS2 Ratchet and Clank series Remake/Remaster 3. PROPER Jak and Daxter series (including PSP's Daxter of course) Remake/Remaster 4. Infinite Jak + Ratchet sequels, forever...
What always gets me was Ratchet: "Whoa! Did you see that!?" Clank: "Yes. I hope that poor woman is alright-" Ratchet: "Ahh she's fine." After they had just seen her get gobbled up. X'D
Certainly. 30 fps instead of the original being at 60 and less levels. Original had 18 worlds this only 12.Not to mention all the needless changes. It's really poor
"It's like it's afraid if it stops being loud and bouncy, it's going to lose the children's attention. And that's not a good thing. Children need slow moments. They need pauses. It teaches them patience and the appreciation of atmosphere. This is just waving your keys in front of their dumb little faces!"
90/00s kids dealt with it. Games were particularly then, you had to work it out, or hmm 'read' talking is point if they do or don't understand what they are even saying and it just being noise. We got used to them difficulty or smart design but enough to keep our attention. Do we need to go 'kids are hyper give them something for their tiny attention spans and keep doing that with phones and everything else too'. Even though not all kids are but put it as if they all are because forget personality put them all under a generic status Hmm I wonder why they are that way it must be the adults and media doing that a lot hmmmm. Sigh I swear some games need to calm down. Horror is great for atmosphere and little to no talking, some games could learn what atmosphere and talk when necessary not treat them like they can't think. Hmm it's like they want to give you the answers but how can they get the answer in learning when they can't learn how to do anything and hear too much noise and us animation/family friendly game fans get annoyed we love platformers we are a sizeable audience and fanbase. Nintendo doesn't treat it's games like on for kids they know adult core fans exist and treat them with respect it isn't hard.
One of the things I really liked about the first few games was how you could just take everything in on your own. The later games' trend of having to fill every second with often meaningless dialogue kinda kills this.
@@yojoehojo4291 What I'm trying to say is that the PS3 offered you to hear voices while actually PLAYING the game and not watching a cutscene unlike the PS2
@@haywardbarrows5906 That's false, having soundbytes play is very easy to code into a game. Again, go play Up Your Arsenal on the PS2 (it's native console) and just listen to how much the game tells you funny quips while you beat enemies up and walk around. It's not AS much in the Future series, but that's simply because of the fact that the actual game developers had a shitton of Q&A testing sessions where they learned what was the right amount for the PS2 Games. Granted, it gets really annoying in Deadlocked which was the last genuine PS2 titles (the other two were ports from PSP).
+ihatevoyager Going to have to disagree. The orignal game had: More planets/content Better Story Better Soundtrack Actual Character development between ratchet and clank More humor for teenagers and adults Don't get me wrong, I like the remake and even a lot of the weapons but the original just has a lot more going for it in my opinion.
+ihatevoyager Yes, surely it's all about nostalgia goggles, because the last thing people want to admit is that games played better and had more content 14 years ago than today.
To those of you threatening this guy with death for daring to criticise the game and saying that he's nitpicking something which isn't that bad in the game, you're right. It's worse.
Hurtgamez Good video games take allot of what the "show don't tell" rule is to theater and cinema - though its only half of what a video game is. If I can see something awesome happening on screen than there is no point in having voice actors/actresses read lines about how awesome it is. To immerse on one level is to get rid of those things because if you don't it comes off as artificial and the immersion is ruined. Why should I bother to play a fantasy game if at every moment it's telling me that the fantasy I'm trying to partake in isn't going to connect because it's an artificial product made by people who are trying so hard to shill their creation rather than let it stand on it's own two feet? Now you could enjoy the video game on how it plays which is exclusively a game concept, but it's really hard for me to enjoy half of what a video game is suppose to be. If I wanted enjoyment from platforming mechanics alone, the other half of the immersion from video games, I would play a 2D platformer because the only point of 3D platforming is aesthetic immersion ( a world more like our own with more realistic dimensions).
Beefmeat I'm fine with it. I think I expressed what I wanted to say in the most concise way possible which even then was only about two paragraphs. I'm more surprised they couldn't just skim it to get the gist of what I was saying.
I decided to give this game a try since I got it for free somewhat recently. I was pleasantly surprised with the shooting gameplay. It's as fun and engaging as ever. But god... these lines, these characters, this OST, and the fact that no one shuts up...help.
+Bill BitClaude the internet wasn't in its hay day of memes yet so I'm just going to say this, alot of the corny humor and "clever" references were of pop culture are just as bad as a meme(since it automatically dates itself). this video showed 1 meme, and it happened to be one that never was funny and of a classic game that's still remembered. it wasn't a super recent meme that went away quickly (like "I didn't ask for this" or "arrow to the knee")
+Bill BitClaude Deus Ex human revolution, the trailer has him say it as an opening line, and he proceeds to complain. then the game dropped, did well and people said it for things that didn't please them. it died quickly
The gameplay seems great as ever, it's just too bad that they don't trust the player to find their way around without the constant, "helpful" commentary.
What happened to prompts of rings/bolts, sound effects and score multipliers as audio reinforcement? Sonic Heroes (my first 3D Sonic) as much as I like it only hurt the experience for repeat playthroughs and rarely expressed interesting details (better than Secret Rings which forces commentary on and you can blitz the hazards I guess). Both certain post Heroes Sonic games and this have a similar issue with when characters should be adding in and what. Sadly it isn't just tutorials but likely cases of overlooked sound design since both are 3D platformers (dying genre sorta) and they don't want to be seen as cheap by limiting dialogue to cutscenes. (Fortunately neither has done walk and talk)
+NickonAquaMagna Heck, even in "recent" sonic games besides Boom, no one really talked in the gameplay (Other than the Deadly Six banter in their respective levels 3-4 times in Lost World, and THAT LOOKS LIKE A HOMING SHOT in Generations) Most of the time, if you want help while in the game, you can either just go to the hint circles/omochao. In colors you can turn off the hints, and generations you can turn off Omochao.
+Heru Ctach I few annoying dialogue bits shouldn't stop you from playing what is otherwise one of the best R&C games. Mind you, this is coming from someone that never really got into the PS3 releases.
WaddleDee105 That's far from what stops me from enjoying it, at least on its own. I can't really judge this game, I haven't played it, but I doubt it'd be a fulfilling R&C game for me, especially since no game after ACiT was (Nexus was fairly fun to play, but going through the story seemed a bit annoying when I had to listen to the angst of the characters). I could go on a rant about it, and I hope TGB makes a video on this, but I just don't think that Ratchet and Clank has the same feel that it used to, and I sincerely doubt it's just me being stubborn and aging, but R&C going from a game for teens and kids to something more fitting for a preschooler.
***** I miss when the R&C games were rated T as well but this game is still fantastic, regardless. Like I previously said, I never got into the PS3 ones but I still have been enjoying this new one a lot even if it's not quite the same.
I love Ratchet & Clank. One of the features in the reboot game is "featuring clips from the new movie". Is this 2002? Anyway, I still want to watch the new movie but am I the only one upset that they made Ratchet a nice guy right from the start? In the original game he was an assailed who later becomes good friends with Clank
@@hyperdark06 Separate universe sure... except that because this game exists, it will make the newer players turn a blind eye to the original. Hell, the Completionist even stated the major differences between them, and probably wouldn't have played the original if it hadn't been for his fans to implore him to experience it.
I really get the feeling the same schmuck gave shitty advice to all the game producers in North America and now those producers are forcing developers to make these stupid design decisions. I mean, it's the same problems over and over again.
i just completed the game and enjoyed it, the problems for me was of course this shit, Ratchet errand boy attitude and the music was the most generic orchestral shit possible
Dilly i have a thumb drive with all the Ratchet and Clank soundtracks, i NEED to use that because the music from the 2016 game mixed in with recognizable levels actualy make me think about suicide, and im not even suicidal in the slightest thats how bad i think it is...*sniff* why Insomniac, why?
If you think about it Insomniac and Naughty Dog are basically opposite Insomniac took an edgy teen game and made it kid friendly while Naughty Dog took a kid friendly game and made it for edgy teen the difference is that Naughty dog didn't make Jak 4 as opposed to R&C They really are opposite
I played the old Ratchet and Clank games AS A KID and enjoyed/understood them. I don't get why these creators always use the excuse "this is for kids" when they remake something great into a hand-holding, carebear fest... kids are capable of playing games without all that.
Agreed. They rely on western animation studios too much that make bad kids pandering films and think it's solid but they make stuff in their 20s in the 90s/00s 'oh it must be bad' even though it holds up. It isn't dated like they so called think. Kids aren't stupid they are taught things so teach them not pander with noise and garbage. If they are willing to explore and care to enjoy the game they will if they aren't that's up to them. Some will those are their audience. But they seem to not understand that.
This dialogue is what kills the game for me. It is so frequent and annoying. The original games would never be this vocal, as it allows you to figure shit out on your own and feel more immersed and relaxed in the gameplay. The dialogue in this remake however, makes me find myself getting a headache and telling ratchet to shut the fuck up about the obvious enemies and platforming that is in front of him. The story and music in this game is also dreadful, and doesn't have any charm and faithfulness to the original
+CyrusBluebird Its not as if Ratchet wasn't a nerd in the old games previously. In Up Your Arsenal Ratchet gets excited when he finds out there's a game system on the ship (the one you use to play Quark comics). Its just that in here they chose to turn it up......a lot. I assume its so that gamers can relate to him more, trying to make him more down to earth (heh). That being said I prefer the Ratchet who was pretty cool but I could still relate to him since everyone else in universe seemed rather illogical and as result always got the short end of the stick.
Jamesdesuperweeb the original struck me as more of an introvert while this tie in to film version seems to be more on the extrovert side. This just means there's no character growth though the games where we got to know him better. To me it comes across as trying to pander to those who already played all through the series while also trying to open him up to a broader audience achieving neither. It used to be great having a back and forth between Ratchet and Clank because they we of opposing opinions while having to work together.
Madberty nice ad hominem. I'm aware the Starfox 64 3DS port/rework, but most likely the kids out there are playing mobile games, and will be out of the loop for that, more so since this is a Sony property referencing a Nintendo 64 game which meme died long ago, not counting the virtual console releases. Also the game seems to talk to much to be palatable for teens & adults. You can have innuendoes peppered in for some adult chuckles, it's just hard to enjoy something which won't shut the fuck up to the point of cutting itself off. We ask for quality in all media, and what Charlie has shown us is not a quality game for all ages. It's a condescending, pandering mess of trying to be both a remake and tie in for the film.
CyrusBluebird I agree with this, but it isn't part of the original argument at all. You said because the game has a Starfox reference it's somehow no longer aimed at children. I said referencing something meant for older audiences doesn't mean the focus has changed. I'm not disagreeing that the game dialogue and story is pandering and annoying, I just find your original point pretty nit-picky.
Even if you turn dialogue volume to 0, the music still fades out for dialogue. So the music is not only bland and not nearly good as the original, but it constantly fades in and out.
This also happens in the new Lego Star Wars game. It’s weird how this big games need to add so much in order to avoid dead air. Momentary silence is okay.
Hoverboard Races in 2016: *”Whoa! Is he the next Skid McMarx?!” Repeated for the 20th time* Hoverboard Races in 2002: *Ratchet exploding and falling to the ground hilariously for the 20th time*
Metazoa54321 WHAT A TRICK COMBINATION HE FAILED TO LAND SUCCESSFULLY HE'S HOT STUFF... AND LOOK AT THOSE SPARKS TAILS IS GAAAAAAAIIINNING MOMENTUM Pirate it for Dolphin
@@mann-nova9392 actually there's a free copy of the original PC release of Sonic Riders in the wild, just gotta download that, get a online widescreen patch and you're good to go, it'll be a lot smoother than emulation.
Exactly. The original soundtracks just don't fit well when there's people talking. Of course, they decided to go with the shitty dialogue option instead of the amazing soundtracks
Definitely a far cry from the first games where you kinda had to figure out where to go next. Your only source of help being mission objectives not checked off on a planet.
This SHOULD have been an improvement from the original, much like the Reignited Trilogy was. But instead, this is nothing but an insult to it. Also since i'm bringing up the Reignited Trilogy: they eventually added an option to turn off the excessive motion blur which would've been greatly appreciated here. As it stands though, this dialog is Bubsy 3D levels of OMG SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Bubsy due to bad voice acting direction the actor is actually good in other works. Gex has its annoyance too but it suits the tv referencing of the tv based levels.
Am I the only one who liked the gameplay of the original more? plus the storyline in the remake is insufferable and the music is just shameful. and to be completely honest, the music was one of the best selling points for me in this game for me, the PS3 versions strayed away from this and even with David at the hands of ToD it was still rather unrecognizable from the PS2 titles, then he left the series after that and RIP. Ratchet was kind of a dick in the first game but I actually liked the way they did it (being pissed off at clank about Quark's trap was actually justifiable IMO).
Im glad Ratchet Deadlocked was my last Ra C game. The future series felt like it was ripping off a certain dc character' s origin and got too serious at times.
@korrok they weren't terrible The game was literally the same but with slower strafing, however that wasn't an issue because the entire game was meant to be played without any And the camera only had issues when running into a wall, like every other game, ever? I've been playing this game since I got the HD collection and haven't ran into any camera issues
@korrok I feel the exact opposite. The original you had to make smart use of your arsenal, using the appropriate weapon for that scenario. 2 and onwards I just jumped side to side to side, mindlessly blasting enemies with whatever gun I wanted to level up.
+ihatevoyager in the past, we used to habe games that had action and control of your character, in the present, we have annoying dialogue and unskippable walking segments...
I don't understand why they keep insisting on bringing back Mr. Zurkon in EVERY SINGLE GAME since his introduction. Does anyone seriously think his little quips are cool or funny?
OH GOD! Who ruined the sound designs? This is uncapable. Speaking over other lines, no sound distance detection, endless repetition of the lines. What is this? An early psone game?
I saw a video featuring planet Novalis a few days ago. I immediately was perturbed by Ratchet and Clank hastily saying some lines with no poise or timing after crash landing. They walk forward make a statement and another and another. They keep fucking talking while they use the elevator to get down. I gathered this from one video. Everything shown prior to this did not feature this constant chatter. It's so bad I'm expecting them to patch it.
Lol. I personally loved the pixalizer but never liked Mr Zurkon much. In real life I've always been the indipendent type of person and it especially shows when I play Ratchet and Clank. I swear the amount of times he told me to buy a Mr Zurkon made me go insane
I loved Al's movie poster for Fongoid with a Stick, calling back to Insomniac's failed attempt at Girl with a Stick prior to RAC 1. Still detest those discount Jarjars though. x.x
An important part of good writing is knowing when to SHUT UP.
Bees WithAQuestionMark yes
Why shut up when you can “COME AND BUY A PIXILIZER”!!!!! 😂😂😂
Rachet and the Galactic Patrol saves the universe
(A couple years later)
"If you hold all those bolts. You're not helping the economy, come and by the Pixelizer.
Rachet: "SHUT UP, SHUT UP, GOD JUST SHUT UP!!!!! You've been bothering me for YEARS. When will I get through that thick skull of yours, that I will NEVER WANT TO BUY THAT GUN!!!!!"
@@jakemedina7805 A legendary meme birthed in the Gaming Brit community XD
I can hear og ratchet saying this 🤣🤣
Man. And now I'm remembering the original game. Where there was tutorial dialogue.
One of the first ones? A message telling you that you could turn off the tutorial voice in options. Because developers were considerate that way, back then.
Yeah, that's sadly in and only in the original trilogy.
@@IBroughtDiv tools of destruction lets you turn off/skip helpdesk messages
@@IBroughtDiv i liked the Help Desk Lady. It adds the immersion for me that Ratchet has a built in UI that communicates with him about info. Like a Jarvis
@@hwanniggles187 The monotone voice of that lady became a part of Ratchet and Clank for me, something you leave on intentionally even if you've played the game a ton of times already.
@@RyanxDunn yup
"its for kids"
I don't even know why i wake up anymore.
+MrZurata
The problem with Mario is not enough Goomba killing tutorials.
YOu wake up because of spiderman Ps4, just like me
damn I hate this fact
ZAD That can't be it, they said there isn't going to be pizza mini games.
Hibub Games oh yeah 😢
Remember the old games when you could skip buying a weapon to save for a more expensive one without being relentlessly harassed by the vendor guy?
Pillow Case And apparently Insomniac said it was really hard to program the pixelated enemies too, what a shame they had to annoy us by spamming it at us
Vendor Guy? Where, I don't see him, when I open the Vendor in the Reboot!
Talking about the vendor, do you remember the old animation, where the cube rebuilds into the shop? That was never done again, and also removed for the Report. Press Triangle to open a new Window, it doesn't belong to the environment.
I remember Hey there fuzzball vendet from the first game
My sister waited until the last level to buy a Pixelizer because she was tired of hearing the game trying to pester her into purchasing it.
So she kept going without it? Wha?
@@Lucios1995 Yes, you can finish this game with almost just 1 weapon.
@@LordangeloxD the ryno?
I never bought it because it sounded stupid
@@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer thats a stupider reason
so did he or did he not become the new skid mcmarx
The world may never know..
He wasn't stoned 90% of his screen time so no, he didn't.
I'm still wondering whenever he can breath underwater or not.
TheWolverine1987 buy a Pixelizer to find out, stinky alien
Nah, I really don't feel like helping the economy.
Lol Ratchet was a badass and not a kid-friendly wannabe hero...
i know right!!! and now they made him into a cute kid-friendly charter but why!!!! That's not what Ratchet is supposed to be!!!! Ratchet is supposed to be a smart guy with guns and very cool. I don't understand insomic going with this "New Direction" With Ratchet and clank, i what the old Ratchet back
Insomniac is trying to appeal to a broader audience, namely children, so they're dumbing down pretty much everything from a narrative standpoint. Its very reminiscent of what happened to the REAL Teen Titans and how its become Teen Titans Go. Pandering/Dumbing down for kids.
you are by far the most intelligent commenter on this post
maybe if we spam. we want the old ratchet back on spiderman's trailer. hmmmm
@@Energizer720 Things we need:
1. Jak 4
2. PROPER PS2 Ratchet and Clank series Remake/Remaster
3. PROPER Jak and Daxter series (including PSP's Daxter of course) Remake/Remaster
4. Infinite Jak + Ratchet sequels, forever...
2016 ratchet: I've died and gone to nerd heaven!
2002 ratchet: nerd
*gone
@@but_iWantedTo_speakGerman you're right thanks
I hate how the big head cheat is always on in this game.
oh my god
These games used to be genuinely funny...
I thought skid mcmarks was funny
yo Yeah everyone liked Skid Mcmarks, he was in the original game
Ratchet do you know what this means?
Yeah, Qwark’s really sold out
What always gets me was
Ratchet: "Whoa! Did you see that!?"
Clank: "Yes. I hope that poor woman is alright-"
Ratchet: "Ahh she's fine."
After they had just seen her get gobbled up. X'D
Even RaC 3 didn't have so much dialogue.
Next-gen kid-friendly guidance and hints
Coil_Whine i was very young at the time and i remember having to get my dad and brother to beat those racing sections for me.
Pan Z makes me lose faith in humanity, fucking kid-friendly shit, mate piss off.
novedekne i had to always get my dad to do the trespasser on Oltanis Orbit
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Love how a remake is pretty much worse than the original in almost everything but graphics. What a time to be alive
Certainly. 30 fps instead of the original being at 60 and less levels. Original had 18 worlds this only 12.Not to mention all the needless changes. It's really poor
The in-game dialogue in this was ridiculous. This game was one of the most patronising games I've ever played
"It's like it's afraid if it stops being loud and bouncy, it's going to lose the children's attention. And that's not a good thing. Children need slow moments. They need pauses. It teaches them patience and the appreciation of atmosphere. This is just waving your keys in front of their dumb little faces!"
90/00s kids dealt with it. Games were particularly then, you had to work it out, or hmm 'read' talking is point if they do or don't understand what they are even saying and it just being noise. We got used to them difficulty or smart design but enough to keep our attention. Do we need to go 'kids are hyper give them something for their tiny attention spans and keep doing that with phones and everything else too'. Even though not all kids are but put it as if they all are because forget personality put them all under a generic status
Hmm I wonder why they are that way it must be the adults and media doing that a lot hmmmm. Sigh I swear some games need to calm down. Horror is great for atmosphere and little to no talking, some games could learn what atmosphere and talk when necessary not treat them like they can't think. Hmm it's like they want to give you the answers but how can they get the answer in learning when they can't learn how to do anything and hear too much noise and us animation/family friendly game fans get annoyed we love platformers we are a sizeable audience and fanbase. Nintendo doesn't treat it's games like on for kids they know adult core fans exist and treat them with respect it isn't hard.
This is probably even worse in Rift Apart. Literally there's like a cutscene or a character dialogue every 2 seconds.
One of the things I really liked about the first few games was how you could just take everything in on your own. The later games' trend of having to fill every second with often meaningless dialogue kinda kills this.
Seriously holy shit. There was chatter in the other games but it wasn't this exhausting
It's been pretty bad since UYA I'd say but it got EXTREMELY BAD since the Future series.
@@yojoehojo4291 Because the PS3 allowed voices to be commandeered in-game when doing the normal style
@@haywardbarrows5906 You literally just wrote gibberish, could you try again?
@@yojoehojo4291 What I'm trying to say is that the PS3 offered you to hear voices while actually PLAYING the game and not watching a cutscene unlike the PS2
@@haywardbarrows5906 That's false, having soundbytes play is very easy to code into a game. Again, go play Up Your Arsenal on the PS2 (it's native console) and just listen to how much the game tells you funny quips while you beat enemies up and walk around. It's not AS much in the Future series, but that's simply because of the fact that the actual game developers had a shitton of Q&A testing sessions where they learned what was the right amount for the PS2 Games. Granted, it gets really annoying in Deadlocked which was the last genuine PS2 titles (the other two were ports from PSP).
original r&c > remake
Nah
+NaziSled only thing better about the original was chairman dreks voice actor. Besides that the remake is better. Take of the nostalgia goggles.
gameplay:
remake > original (imo)
+ihatevoyager Going to have to disagree.
The orignal game had:
More planets/content
Better Story
Better Soundtrack
Actual Character development between ratchet and clank
More humor for teenagers and adults
Don't get me wrong, I like the remake and even a lot of the weapons but the original just has a lot more going for it in my opinion.
+ihatevoyager Yes, surely it's all about nostalgia goggles, because the last thing people want to admit is that games played better and had more content 14 years ago than today.
To those of you threatening this guy with death for daring to criticise the game and saying that he's nitpicking something which isn't that bad in the game, you're right.
It's worse.
And in rift apart, it seems to have that same problem.
oh great.
maybe i'll get during a sale.
the whole female ratchet thing is lame as well.
well hey, at least it confirms that the 2016 Reboot is non-canon, so at least it did save something there (somewhat).
CANT GET ENOUGH RINGS!
+OV3RK1LL3R65 you mean bolts?
ONE RING TO RULE THEM ALL
OV3RK1LL3R65 hey hey everybody look over here
There's a sonic fan right here
***** I got it!
Hey look its a giant talking egg!
Yeah... I think I'll just stick to the original and future trilogies.
thats stupid
Hurtgamez Good video games take allot of what the "show don't tell" rule is to theater and cinema - though its only half of what a video game is. If I can see something awesome happening on screen than there is no point in having voice actors/actresses read lines about how awesome it is. To immerse on one level is to get rid of those things because if you don't it comes off as artificial and the immersion is ruined. Why should I bother to play a fantasy game if at every moment it's telling me that the fantasy I'm trying to partake in isn't going to connect because it's an artificial product made by people who are trying so hard to shill their creation rather than let it stand on it's own two feet? Now you could enjoy the video game on how it plays which is exclusively a game concept, but it's really hard for me to enjoy half of what a video game is suppose to be. If I wanted enjoyment from platforming mechanics alone, the other half of the immersion from video games, I would play a 2D platformer because the only point of 3D platforming is aesthetic immersion ( a world more like our own with more realistic dimensions).
Henny Zhi im not reading all that
So you're just going to ignore a good counter-argument? Real mature.
Beefmeat I'm fine with it. I think I expressed what I wanted to say in the most concise way possible which even then was only about two paragraphs. I'm more surprised they couldn't just skim it to get the gist of what I was saying.
This game was basically 'everything you don't do with storytelling in games'.
I decided to give this game a try since I got it for free somewhat recently. I was pleasantly surprised with the shooting gameplay. It's as fun and engaging as ever. But god... these lines, these characters, this OST, and the fact that no one shuts up...help.
stop fooling yourself, the gameplay is rubbish, accept reality.
@@deadlocked5337 I mean I didn't like the game enough to argue lol I didn't hate it, but I'll probably never play it again.
Did they really make a fucking barrel roll joke in this game? Please stop...
+ISlayPrettyLies Look on the bright side: at least it wasn't an "energy bolt to the knee" joke.
have you played ratchet and clank, corny humor plagues this series. Or was the Cortney Gears gag just Reeeeally high class
+ISlayPrettyLies
To be fair... Big Al was the one who made the joke... so it kinda fits his personality.
+Bill BitClaude the internet wasn't in its hay day of memes yet so I'm just going to say this, alot of the corny humor and "clever" references were of pop culture are just as bad as a meme(since it automatically dates itself). this video showed 1 meme, and it happened to be one that never was funny and of a classic game that's still remembered. it wasn't a super recent meme that went away quickly (like "I didn't ask for this" or "arrow to the knee")
+Bill BitClaude Deus Ex human revolution, the trailer has him say it as an opening line, and he proceeds to complain. then the game dropped, did well and people said it for things that didn't please them. it died quickly
The gameplay seems great as ever, it's just too bad that they don't trust the player to find their way around without the constant, "helpful" commentary.
They're just trying to make the game feel more "kid friendly"
+NickonAquaMagna
It's for 2016 kids. Apparently they're dumber, simpler and have more ADHD tendencies.
What happened to prompts of rings/bolts, sound effects and score multipliers as audio reinforcement? Sonic Heroes (my first 3D Sonic) as much as I like it only hurt the experience for repeat playthroughs and rarely expressed interesting details (better than Secret Rings which forces commentary on and you can blitz the hazards I guess).
Both certain post Heroes Sonic games and this have a similar issue with when characters should be adding in and what. Sadly it isn't just tutorials but likely cases of overlooked sound design since both are 3D platformers (dying genre sorta) and they don't want to be seen as cheap by limiting dialogue to cutscenes. (Fortunately neither has done walk and talk)
+NickonAquaMagna Heck, even in "recent" sonic games besides Boom, no one really talked in the gameplay (Other than the Deadly Six banter in their respective levels 3-4 times in Lost World, and THAT LOOKS LIKE A HOMING SHOT in Generations) Most of the time, if you want help while in the game, you can either just go to the hint circles/omochao. In colors you can turn off the hints, and generations you can turn off Omochao.
+NickonAquaMagna
Guess Insomniac saw DSP play the game and thought "Wow all modern gamer must be this bad". Sadly they were very wrong.
What a trick? Are we looking at the next children game?
The original was rated T you nub
@@PFBM86 The one in this video isn't, lol.
@@PFBM86 Because there wasn't an E10+ rating at the time, plus it's PEGI 3+ in europe lol
Yeeeeaa... banter is like porn, once in a while it's nice, but listen to that all day and you have no idea how quickly it's gonna get old...
+Mathieu Couture
There should've been some sort of time lock on lines that were recently used.
ThePreciseClimber You'd think their testers would have said something... like OH MY GAWD Y U NO SHUTUP, but appearently not.
I've died and gone to nerd heaven!
_Heh, nerd._
I like him🥺
I wanna hug Clank so bad at times. X3
"i like him :("
@@tailedgates9 saaameee
I'm so glad I found this video! I thought I was the only one that HATED the fact that I would constantly hear dialogue during gameplay. So irritating!
Ratchet: "Nerd.."
Clank: "I like him."
Me: "I don't. Thankfully, the older games still exist."
+Heru Ctach I few annoying dialogue bits shouldn't stop you from playing what is otherwise one of the best R&C games. Mind you, this is coming from someone that never really got into the PS3 releases.
WaddleDee105 That's far from what stops me from enjoying it, at least on its own. I can't really judge this game, I haven't played it, but I doubt it'd be a fulfilling R&C game for me, especially since no game after ACiT was (Nexus was fairly fun to play, but going through the story seemed a bit annoying when I had to listen to the angst of the characters). I could go on a rant about it, and I hope TGB makes a video on this, but I just don't think that Ratchet and Clank has the same feel that it used to, and I sincerely doubt it's just me being stubborn and aging, but R&C going from a game for teens and kids to something more fitting for a preschooler.
ThePreciseClimber
Actually, I do like him; I don't see anything wrong with him being such a jerk in the first game.
***** I miss when the R&C games were rated T as well but this game is still fantastic, regardless. Like I previously said, I never got into the PS3 ones but I still have been enjoying this new one a lot even if it's not quite the same.
I liked the old Ratchet games with the minimal dialogue during gameplay. It felt more raw.
*coMe anD BUy A PixELIiZeR!*
WHAT A TRICK
I love Ratchet & Clank. One of the features in the reboot game is "featuring clips from the new movie". Is this 2002? Anyway, I still want to watch the new movie but am I the only one upset that they made Ratchet a nice guy right from the start? In the original game he was an assailed who later becomes good friends with Clank
THIS. I cant stress how big of a deal it is to make ratchet a nice guy from the start. There was actual character developement in the original games.
+Arcademan09 true but think it like this as a seperate universe from the originals
even the video game version implies that.
@@hyperdark06 Separate universe sure... except that because this game exists, it will make the newer players turn a blind eye to the original.
Hell, the Completionist even stated the major differences between them, and probably wouldn't have played the original if it hadn't been for his fans to implore him to experience it.
@@mcihay246 it's a remake/reimagine so they needed to see what it would be like if rachet was some nice dimbo
I really get the feeling the same schmuck gave shitty advice to all the game producers in North America and now those producers are forcing developers to make these stupid design decisions. I mean, it's the same problems over and over again.
+Marcara081 that actually sounds pretty plausible.
i just completed the game and enjoyed it, the problems for me was of course this shit, Ratchet errand boy attitude and the music was the most generic orchestral shit possible
did they fuck up metropolis? it's probably my favorite r&c track so i'm pretty nervous to hear what they did
+pandaraph since ps3 era the sountracks were not that memorable
Some were. WERE.
fsdaaa ffsadhjif they sure did
Dilly i have a thumb drive with all the Ratchet and Clank soundtracks, i NEED to use that because the music from the 2016 game mixed in with recognizable levels actualy make me think about suicide, and im not even suicidal in the slightest thats how bad i think it is...*sniff* why Insomniac, why?
"It's a kid's game!"
1:17....
It sounds se........ Whoa.
If you think about it Insomniac and Naughty Dog are basically opposite Insomniac took an edgy teen game and made it kid friendly while Naughty Dog took a kid friendly game and made it for edgy teen the difference is that Naughty dog didn't make Jak 4 as opposed to R&C
They really are opposite
Ratchet and Clank doesn’t really have blood and cursing compared to Jak and Daxter.
I much much much prefer 2002's ratchet and clank, and this is one of the reasons why
Ratchet and Clank has gone full Sonic.
Ratchet Adventure 2: Clank Unleashed.
Q-Force Heroes.
Shadow the Lombax.
Ratchet: Lost Planet. (no, wait. There's already a Capcom game called that)
Messofanego Ratchet has done something known to the industry as "doing a sonic"
For one game sure but their not that far deep
*ｏｈｎｏ*
THAT LOOKS LIKE A HOMING SHOT.
Finally, the long awaited sequel to Dragon's Dogma
Harpies!
wolves hunt in packs Arisen!
But they're master works all! You can't go wrong!
The tail is severed!
MASTER!! STRIKE THE FINAL BLOW!
I played the old Ratchet and Clank games AS A KID and enjoyed/understood them. I don't get why these creators always use the excuse "this is for kids" when they remake something great into a hand-holding, carebear fest... kids are capable of playing games without all that.
Agreed. They rely on western animation studios too much that make bad kids pandering films and think it's solid but they make stuff in their 20s in the 90s/00s 'oh it must be bad' even though it holds up. It isn't dated like they so called think. Kids aren't stupid they are taught things so teach them not pander with noise and garbage. If they are willing to explore and care to enjoy the game they will if they aren't that's up to them. Some will those are their audience. But they seem to not understand that.
Original Ratchet & Clank fans: hah nerd
General audiences(TM) who don’t know what they're missing out on: I like him
Just... how did this game get such good ratings?!?
just, how did this channel even say bad things about reboots?
Kid Icarus: Uprising. It's cute at first, and it still has it's moments, but fuuuuuuck it never ends.
Sadly Rift Apart is exactly the same.
as long as i don't get annoyed by nobody shutting up in the game, i hope so since i would probably strangle someone to death from it.
Ratchet watch out it looks like a homing attack!
That looks like a homing shot!
Is that the reference?
(I know this comment is 5 years old)
Ratchet & Clank became the very thing it used to mock.
Sad.
Oh and I thought the Sonic voices were bad.
+noPandering
Bounce pad!
+noPandering Ratchet Boom
But I guess their still not as bad as internet rappers.
+Roy Havenstone
Rise of Clank..ic. I dunno, can't come up with a clever pun.
Those are super worse than this...
Arnold: SHUUUUUT UUUUUUUPPP!!! Shut up! Shut up!....
This dialogue is what kills the game for me. It is so frequent and annoying. The original games would never be this vocal, as it allows you to figure shit out on your own and feel more immersed and relaxed in the gameplay. The dialogue in this remake however, makes me find myself getting a headache and telling ratchet to shut the fuck up about the obvious enemies and platforming that is in front of him. The story and music in this game is also dreadful, and doesn't have any charm and faithfulness to the original
"It's for kids" Then why use a Starfox 64 reference/meme?
Also why the personality change?
+CyrusBluebird Its not as if Ratchet wasn't a nerd in the old games previously. In Up Your Arsenal Ratchet gets excited when he finds out there's a game system on the ship (the one you use to play Quark comics). Its just that in here they chose to turn it up......a lot. I assume its so that gamers can relate to him more, trying to make him more down to earth (heh). That being said I prefer the Ratchet who was pretty cool but I could still relate to him since everyone else in universe seemed rather illogical and as result always got the short end of the stick.
Jamesdesuperweeb the original struck me as more of an introvert while this tie in to film version seems to be more on the extrovert side. This just means there's no character growth though the games where we got to know him better. To me it comes across as trying to pander to those who already played all through the series while also trying to open him up to a broader audience achieving neither. It used to be great having a back and forth between Ratchet and Clank because they we of opposing opinions while having to work together.
They used a Starfox reference therefore the game isn't aimed at kids? There are innuendoes and references in kid's shit all the time.
Madberty nice ad hominem. I'm aware the Starfox 64 3DS port/rework, but most likely the kids out there are playing mobile games, and will be out of the loop for that, more so since this is a Sony property referencing a Nintendo 64 game which meme died long ago, not counting the virtual console releases. Also the game seems to talk to much to be palatable for teens & adults. You can have innuendoes peppered in for some adult chuckles, it's just hard to enjoy something which won't shut the fuck up to the point of cutting itself off. We ask for quality in all media, and what Charlie has shown us is not a quality game for all ages. It's a condescending, pandering mess of trying to be both a remake and tie in for the film.
CyrusBluebird I agree with this, but it isn't part of the original argument at all. You said because the game has a Starfox reference it's somehow no longer aimed at children. I said referencing something meant for older audiences doesn't mean the focus has changed. I'm not disagreeing that the game dialogue and story is pandering and annoying, I just find your original point pretty nit-picky.
Even if you turn dialogue volume to 0, the music still fades out for dialogue. So the music is not only bland and not nearly good as the original, but it constantly fades in and out.
This also happens in the new Lego Star Wars game. It’s weird how this big games need to add so much in order to avoid dead air. Momentary silence is okay.
"What if Sonic Boom has fun gameplay?"
Looks like another game has been a victim of Sonic Boom Syndrome
I love how they just ripped off the Daleks for nerd brownie points. Remember when games and meta jokes weren't shameless? Me neither.
Me and my friend made a joke with the pixeliser.
*just looks at a bolt*
"YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH BOLTS FOR A PIXELISER!"
I think Ill stick to the OG Ratchet and Clank 1.
Hoverboard Races in 2016: *”Whoa! Is he the next Skid McMarx?!” Repeated for the 20th time*
Hoverboard Races in 2002: *Ratchet exploding and falling to the ground hilariously for the 20th time*
WHAT A TRICK
Actually makes me wanna go and purchase Sonic Riders.
Metazoa54321
WHAT A TRICK COMBINATION
HE FAILED TO LAND SUCCESSFULLY
HE'S HOT STUFF... AND LOOK AT THOSE SPARKS
TAILS IS GAAAAAAAIIINNING MOMENTUM
Pirate it for Dolphin
@@mann-nova9392 actually there's a free copy of the original PC release of Sonic Riders in the wild, just gotta download that, get a online widescreen patch and you're good to go, it'll be a lot smoother than emulation.
Get the tournament fan patch or whatever it's named, makes omachao shut up, puts best Sonic OST and revamps the gameplay a bit
"He's still close by. I can smell him." While he is falling is the best thing.
3 years laters... i understand now... they did this to cover the forgetable soundtrack
The soundtrack was the same one from the movie.
Exactly. The original soundtracks just don't fit well when there's people talking. Of course, they decided to go with the shitty dialogue option instead of the amazing soundtracks
New TGBS video later this week. Full video on Ratchet coming shortly after. Hang tight gang.
+Mr Josef The Gaming Guy so how is angry joe corrupt?
+Mr Josef The Gaming Guy Razorfist, really.
+Mr Josef The Gaming Guy get help
+Mr Josef The Gaming Guy dude I didn't even look at a single one of your videos you conceited fuckhead
+Mr Josef The Gaming Guy W O W
So this is how Ratchet and Clank dies... with thunderous dialogue...
Definitely a far cry from the first games where you kinda had to figure out where to go next. Your only source of help being mission objectives not checked off on a planet.
This SHOULD have been an improvement from the original, much like the Reignited Trilogy was. But instead, this is nothing but an insult to it. Also since i'm bringing up the Reignited Trilogy: they eventually added an option to turn off the excessive motion blur which would've been greatly appreciated here.
As it stands though, this dialog is Bubsy 3D levels of OMG SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Sonic Boom levels actually
Bubsy due to bad voice acting direction the actor is actually good in other works. Gex has its annoyance too but it suits the tv referencing of the tv based levels.
Am I the only one who liked the gameplay of the original more? plus the storyline in the remake is insufferable and the music is just shameful. and to be completely honest, the music was one of the best selling points for me in this game for me, the PS3 versions strayed away from this and even with David at the hands of ToD it was still rather unrecognizable from the PS2 titles, then he left the series after that and RIP. Ratchet was kind of a dick in the first game but I actually liked the way they did it (being pissed off at clank about Quark's trap was actually justifiable IMO).
Im glad Ratchet Deadlocked was my last Ra C game. The future series felt like it was ripping off a certain dc character' s origin and got too serious at times.
Same
On R&C 2002 the gameplay required variety, thought, and execution
After that game you just strafe and press X and shoot to win
@korrok they weren't terrible
The game was literally the same but with slower strafing, however that wasn't an issue because the entire game was meant to be played without any
And the camera only had issues when running into a wall, like every other game, ever? I've been playing this game since I got the HD collection and haven't ran into any camera issues
@korrok I feel the exact opposite. The original you had to make smart use of your arsenal, using the appropriate weapon for that scenario. 2 and onwards I just jumped side to side to side, mindlessly blasting enemies with whatever gun I wanted to level up.
True. In most current games they are constantly talking
And this kids, is why Mario and The Legend Of Zelda don't need voice acting. Stop asking for it
+Ole Dandy Furry Trash you're living in the past.
+ihatevoyager in the past, we used to habe games that had action and control of your character, in the present, we have annoying dialogue and unskippable walking segments...
See i though the reaosn mario didn't need voice acting was Super Mario Sunshine but i guess that works too.
Or the bad CDI Zelda and Mario games...
*short cough* the original R&C had voice acting.
It’s crazy how you made a 2 minute video feel like an eternity.
"Holding all those bolts, you're not helping the economy."
What can I spend them on?
I already bought everything...
I don't understand why they keep insisting on bringing back Mr. Zurkon in EVERY SINGLE GAME since his introduction. Does anyone seriously think his little quips are cool or funny?
+Greg Cadman They were definitely a treat when they were introduced in Tools of Destruction, but now they're beating a dead horse.
+Greg Cadman The FIRST time he was great. Joke's starting to overstay it's welcome though.
Remember the Synthenoids in Ratchet and Clank 2? How they worked essentially the same as Zurkon, except they, y'know, were completely silent?
It got tired in crack in time.
Those four helping bots from ratchet and clank 2 were much better at helping and they didnt talk
BOUNCE PADS!
What a trick! Are we looking at the next Skid McMarx here?
it's all...ruined. so glad these PS2's are built like a toyota. just keeps goin.
Fucking hell the prompt to press triangle.
Spiro the Space Moose = Spyro
Fall of Blarg = Resistance Fall of Man
The current ratchet is what the original ratchet would make fun of.
2:41 - 2:43 they only worth listening dialouge.
"TRY AS HE MIGHT, RATCHET COULD NOT BREATHE UNDERWATER."
- Captain Qwark
OH GOD! Who ruined the sound designs? This is uncapable. Speaking over other lines, no sound distance detection, endless repetition of the lines. What is this? An early psone game?
+knightmareAlpha No sound distance detection? When it's coming through what is essentially a radio?
SuntoryKick some of the voices from enemies off-screen could be heard even through walls.
these games used to have jokes in them now they are jokes
I wish they actually remade the first game.
0:53
After listening to the constant nonsense for two whole playthroughs, i'd spin myself to oblivion too
Gave this video a like for including badass OG Ratchet at the end
Series should have ended after Deadlocked. Never needed a Remake.
YO, WHERE MY BOUNCE PADS AT?
I saw a video featuring planet Novalis a few days ago. I immediately was perturbed by Ratchet and Clank hastily saying some lines with no poise or timing after crash landing. They walk forward make a statement and another and another. They keep fucking talking while they use the elevator to get down. I gathered this from one video. Everything shown prior to this did not feature this constant chatter. It's so bad I'm expecting them to patch it.
stop complaining
Excellent rebuttal you have formed friend.
where are the boost pads tho
The virgin "come and buy a pixelizer" vs the Chad "I've got some great bargains for ya today"
is that "with a stick" movie supposed to be a reference to "Girl with a Stick"?
i think so. the other posters being references to Disruptor, Spyro and Resistance. it's kind of cute.
1:42 when you're struggling on a test
SHIT ROCK YEAH
Maybe if he would come and buy a pixelizer he wouldn’t hear all that.
Lol. I personally loved the pixalizer but never liked Mr Zurkon much. In real life I've always been the indipendent type of person and it especially shows when I play Ratchet and Clank. I swear the amount of times he told me to buy a Mr Zurkon made me go insane
Sadly this game was tackled by a team at Insomniac who has literally never touched the series
i like the way everyone talks in this game, it feels more real and alive to me.
+Im Lewd, How bout you? yeah especially the part where they keep repeating the same line over and over
+Abraham Jaleel lol
+Im Lewd, How bout you? LEAVE!!!
I loved Al's movie poster for Fongoid with a Stick, calling back to Insomniac's failed attempt at Girl with a Stick prior to RAC 1. Still detest those discount Jarjars though. x.x
That's a shame you would even have to consider resorting to that.
It's weird. It makes Fi's dialogue from Skyward Sword seem subdued.