Classic fast bowling - Joel Garner v Greg Chappell at MCG December 1979

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  • This epitomizes that brutal series. Professional but merciless West Indian fast bowling prevailing over tough Aussie aggression. A highly edited version of this encounter was shown in the film Fire In Babylon.
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  • @fisherrich100
    @fisherrich100 Před 3 lety +39

    Big Bird was a world class bowler. He played for Somerset CC for years and we loved him. Unplayable on the right wicket.

  • @UmeshaNomad1975
    @UmeshaNomad1975 Před 4 lety +38

    This is the reason why India's Sunny Gavaskar gets more respect, as he scored more centuries against west indies in West Indies and in India without helmet and other safety things. He faced all greatest bowlers of west indies.

    • @auh786
      @auh786 Před 3 lety +11

      Most of his runs came before the four-pronged pace attack came around.

    • @NishitShukla
      @NishitShukla Před 3 lety +6

      @@auh786 You are right. He faced the quartet only once in 83 and his performance was dismal.

    • @garypatrick312
      @garypatrick312 Před 3 lety +2

      He is so much better than Sachin it's not funny to hostile fast bowling compared to gavaskar

    • @NishitShukla
      @NishitShukla Před 3 lety +3

      @@garypatrick312 Can you write correct English?

    • @NishitShukla
      @NishitShukla Před 3 lety +5

      Gavaskar scored just 1 century against the quartet: The Gavaskar myth:
      The myth about Gavaskar's centuries against the WI quartet:
      Gavaskar got just 1 century against the quartet in 83 in WI.
      His scores:
      0, 20
      1, 32
      147
      2, 19
      1, 18.
      When the WI visited India later, they did not have Garner. So there was no quartet.
      Roberts was a spent force and bowed out after playing 1 test.
      Ya there was Marshall and Holding at their peak and two ordinary bowlers in Davis and Daniel plus Richards and Gomes.
      Gavaskar scored two centuries and one 90.
      So basically against the quartet, he has just one century and against quality WI attack he has 3 centuries and a 90.
      The rest of the 10 centuries are against very ordinary attacks.
      The 1st 4 centuries in 1971 was against a very poor nothing attack.
      Another 4 centuries came in 1978 when WI visited India with a second rung team, with Garner, Marshall, Holding playing the rebel Packer series in Australia. Marshall was a rookie, he was destroyed by all batsmen. The bowlers were Philip
      Marshall
      Jumadeen
      Parry
      Holder
      Gomes
      Clarke
      Kalicharan
      Shivnarine
      Out of these Gomes and Kalicharan were batsmen.

  • @painlesss13
    @painlesss13 Před 4 lety +27

    I understand chappell wasn't popular in India, he made mistakes with his attitude to coaching there but he really wanted the best for Indian cricket. He just approached it from the same way you did things in Australia. He was too blunt and didn't understand the politics of Indian cricket. For all the people who are not from Australia i can tell you chappell had no interest in being popular, he was interested in results and I think he would have known after India's bad performance in the world cup in the west indies that he would have been sacked as coach. His batting is almost beyond question, he was the only batsman to dominate the west indies in a series when they were a powerhouse. His efforts in the west indies in world series cricket in 1979 are unbelievable. 620 runs with 3 centuries puts his skill, courage and determination beyond reproach. Only Kepler weesels in 84/85 with 505 runs and one century and 2 ninetys and Alan lamb in England with 3 hundreds in 1984 go close. Some batsmen made big scores like gavaskar in madras and Dean Jones in Adelaide but no one else did it consistently over a full series.

    • @sentimentalbloke185
      @sentimentalbloke185 Před 3 měsíci

      Indians were racist towards him & were happy when he was assaulted. All over a game of cricket.

  • @praveenvaddepally7975
    @praveenvaddepally7975 Před 8 lety +94

    Brutal as it gets. Jaws broken, fingers broken, ..The Legendary West Indians bowlers like Joel are text book source for any bowler, on how to scare (almost kill), draw blood from batsmen ruthlessly, taking wickets. It was nightmare of batsmen then. Respect for all the legendary West Indian fast bowlers.

  • @fudgenuggets405
    @fudgenuggets405 Před 5 lety +26

    The Windies bowlers of those days did not consider them batsmen, they were targets.

  • @michaelwilson7924
    @michaelwilson7924 Před 4 lety +40

    You had to be alive back then to understand how fast bowlers dominated test cricket, and how hard it really was to make runs. In the late 70's to mid 80's, only 3 batsmen in the world averaged 50 plus. Viv Richards, Javed Miandad, and Greg Chappell. That says it all

    • @Godplayzdice
      @Godplayzdice Před 2 lety +7

      And Gavaskar

    • @matthewlister7693
      @matthewlister7693 Před 2 lety

      @@Godplayzdice not in the 70's

    • @michaelwilson7924
      @michaelwilson7924 Před 2 lety +7

      @@Godplayzdice Yep Sunil Gavaskar averaged 50 too, that makes only 4, says alot doesn't it. Now every test playing country has players who average 50 just about. It was a brutal era, it really was

    • @Godplayzdice
      @Godplayzdice Před 2 lety +1

      @@michaelwilson7924 agreed toughest era of batting. Modern techniques and batting gear was invented because of it.

    • @jahno7154
      @jahno7154 Před 2 lety +5

      @@michaelwilson7924 Averaging 50 for an opener against the new ball with all those great fast bowlers of the 70s and 80s is outstanding and world class

  • @Triple5live
    @Triple5live Před 2 lety +8

    Big Bird caught our imagination as kids. Formidable bowler, we watched in awe, and fear for the batsman.

  • @anthonyaduhene
    @anthonyaduhene Před 5 lety +74

    The best part of this was the complete lack of concern shown by Clive Lloyd🤣

    • @richrockefeller3331
      @richrockefeller3331 Před 4 lety +2

      Why?

    • @sliferxxxx
      @sliferxxxx Před 4 lety +13

      Y because Australia deserved everything they received and more considering they started the bouncer war bk in 1975-76

    • @richrockefeller3331
      @richrockefeller3331 Před 4 lety

      @@sliferxxxx research the word BODYLINE you ignoramous. Another idiot climate change disciple in our midst... careful the sky doesn't fall on your head dickhead.

    • @henrickadams7337
      @henrickadams7337 Před 4 lety

      Keen eye my brethren. Saw it too...

    • @gerardoneill5556
      @gerardoneill5556 Před 4 lety +3

      @@sliferxxxx This turned out to be good for Australia, eventually. The bitterness of defeat created a ruthless streak in Steve Waugh, so when the tables turned we showed no mercy to the Windies. That's what competition is all about!

  • @painlesss13
    @painlesss13 Před 4 lety +8

    Funny thing also is that Chappell and Garner were , and still are very friendly off the pitch. Just the way the West Indies and Aussies played cricket , very hard on the pitch , very friendly off the pitch . There were exceptions of course but after World Series Cricket the players knew each other very well.

  • @garfield4108
    @garfield4108 Před 5 lety +101

    Look at that hideous length Garner bowls. He's getting balls into the armpit area that aren't overly short. He must have been a nightmare to face

    • @jkjkjkjkjk537
      @jkjkjkjkjk537 Před 4 lety +11

      In Geoff Boycott's own words "Nobody hit Joel". Big bird really was an absolute nightmare to face.

    • @kennethhenry6096
      @kennethhenry6096 Před 4 lety +5

      He got that sort of bounce of a decent length. The batsman used to say they found it hard to
      Pick the ball up sometimes as he was letting it go above the height of some of the sight screens. He wasn’t as quick with his stock ball as Holding and Roberts but he could bowl fast spells at times. But it was that bounce that made him a nightmare. Willis was the only other one of that era that seemed able to get it to do something like that off a length or back
      Of a length.

    • @lexol3347
      @lexol3347 Před 4 lety +1

      That's what happens when you put your height to good use.

    • @ass09tube
      @ass09tube Před 4 lety +4

      Shoaib, Lee, Tait, Sreesanth and those in 1998-2007 just tried to get 150-160 on speed gun. They didn't try to bowl unplayable spells, bowls that could make batsmen have doubt what is going to be next ball like... It's mind game great bowlers play. These lads made it brainless physical buffoonery.

    • @prismaticindia9046
      @prismaticindia9046 Před 3 lety +2

      Just like Curtly Ambrose

  • @arunchemparathy199
    @arunchemparathy199 Před 6 lety +194

    Respect to the batsmen of that era who faced those bowlers without the protective guards. Batting was a different skill then

    • @arlenvandersmagt5560
      @arlenvandersmagt5560 Před 4 lety +9

      Arun Chemparathy So true.......an entirely different skill.......no covers when it rained, pitches that could make the ball fly off a good length....you had to watch the ball....you couldn’t just duck and hope for the best, because you get end up getting badly hurt!!

    • @anamikabhattacharjee3425
      @anamikabhattacharjee3425 Před 4 lety +5

      Very true. Really great.

    • @IndianCitizen04
      @IndianCitizen04 Před 4 lety +8

      Sunil Gavaskar is the legend in this matter. He never took even a helmet and never been hurt by any deadly fast bowling including Garner, Roberts, Thompson, Lille. His highest average was against West Indies and in West Indies he was treated as god.

    • @kunalsingh3121
      @kunalsingh3121 Před 4 lety +4

      @@IndianCitizen04 Fuck you asshole you are just day dreaming he never scored against that quatret popular myth spreaded by bumboys like you.

    • @kunalsingh3121
      @kunalsingh3121 Před 4 lety +2

      @SkyIsTheLimit Yaa just 1 100 but if u see packer cricket season 2 greg chappel single handedly take down windies quick if somebody really master them it was chappel and mohinder amarnath for a brief.Apart from that gavaskar struggle against dennis lilee,Richard hadlee and imran khan whereas viv dominate all 3 of them Yes viv got out by lilee 9 times but it was always him vs lilee that excite me as a fan.Gavskar was overrated except than as simple as it.And in that match if i remember only 2 innings were completed So cant say it was a quick pitch too.
      Good Player but overrated Too many Counts

  • @ravirajagopalan
    @ravirajagopalan Před 4 lety +20

    Seen videos of Richards in his prime facing Lillie, Thompson and the Aussie bowlers of the late 70s. He batted really well but the bowlers had their moments too. It was a good contest. Then I watch videos of Richards batting against the likes of Merv Hughes, Greg Lawson, McDermott etc. in the mid and late 80s, by which time he was well past his prime in his late 30s. He plays them so easily and treats them with contempt. The bowling standards have fallen so much from the 70s.

    • @deepar499
      @deepar499 Před rokem

      I am a Proud Kannadiga. Kannada pride. Kannada power.

    • @anweshchatterjee7595
      @anweshchatterjee7595 Před rokem

      That's a very bad way to judge. Lillee and Thompson were among the finest bowlers in their time. Hughes Lawson and McDermott, while really good in their own right, were definitely not the toughest challenge.

    • @ravirajagopalan
      @ravirajagopalan Před 6 měsíci

      @@anweshchatterjee7595 that is exactly what I said.

    • @anweshchatterjee7595
      @anweshchatterjee7595 Před 6 měsíci

      @@ravirajagopalan that is not at all what you said. Or you didn't understand what I said. You're comparing the absolute best bowler of the 70s to one of the just good, above average bowlers of the 80s. that's just completely biased and unfair and you're just forcing the comparison to prove a moot point. There's absolutely *NO* way to compare between generations. Your nostalgia will tell you the 70s was the best era, someone else will say the 90s, someone else the 2010s. People must have thought the same in the 1870s too. Today I could make a genuine case for Bumrah being a better bowler than Thompson (apart from the raw pace aspect he definitely is), but next if you compare say Tim Southee to Lillee, obviously that makes no sense. From the 80s you'll want to compare the likes of Hadlee and Marshall to others, not any of the Australians until McGrath came along. Can you watch Marshall and say his quality is low? No. Settled.

  • @paulmurray8922
    @paulmurray8922 Před 6 lety +40

    Ahhhh... The days of the Four Horsemen, LOL!

  • @thepimpernel6971
    @thepimpernel6971 Před 3 lety +16

    Chappell was a great player, one of Australias best batsmen ever. He played his entire career against the West Indies when they had those boys bringing heat all day every day. It was brutal. Chappell seemed to stand alone. I remember a test where he scored I think 64 against those lads on a wet pitch in Brisbane. It was a great innings one of his best. Brutal stuff.

    • @blackrose474
      @blackrose474 Před 2 lety +2

      Pimpernel: 100% agreed with you...

    • @peachesandherb9018
      @peachesandherb9018 Před 2 lety +1

      But he failed in this match

    • @andyfoxy3140
      @andyfoxy3140 Před 2 lety

      @@peachesandherb9018 Sure did. Bloody cheat.

    • @Godplayzdice
      @Godplayzdice Před 2 lety

      He didn't play all his tests against west indies. Other teams like India were weak. He scored easy meat runs aplenty there. Nostalgia exaggerates stuff.

    • @jugheadsrule
      @jugheadsrule Před 3 měsíci

      @@Godplayzdice He only played one 3 Test series against India. From 75/6 until 81/2 includine WSC, he played 6 series against the Windies. Nostalgia seems to have rotted your brain.

  • @sivakumarkumar9805
    @sivakumarkumar9805 Před rokem +1

    As an Indian Cricket fan, since 1970s, never seen such a good set of Fast bowlers like Andy Roberts, Michel Holding, Joel Garner, and Malcom Marshall. if such caliber of fast bowlers are in one Team, even now, the team can win across the globe, in all the formats of cricket. True Chsmpion Fast bowlers, especially, the Jamican Express, Michael Holding. what a champion bowler he was. smooth running and his bowling action was unmatchable. i am grate fan of him

  • @padstowphantom
    @padstowphantom Před 4 lety +12

    I recall someone saying because of Garner's height the ball was delivered from above the sight screen, so you had even less time to see the ball and react.

  • @paiaullasantosh6038
    @paiaullasantosh6038 Před 6 lety +92

    If this is called fast Bowling..today's most bowler's are medium pacers..I really like the attrire too of these bowlers..

    • @briansukhu4392
      @briansukhu4392 Před 4 lety +7

      During that era, the golden era of fast bowling. To be considered fast you had bowl at least 90mph.
      Now people rave about someone who bowls at 86mph.

    • @v4vj601
      @v4vj601 Před 3 lety +1

      THOMSUN Roberts Lilly Garner Marshal Holding

    • @goku54082
      @goku54082 Před 3 lety +2

      No bro the main difference is that if old day bowlers bowl 145 kmph bouncer then it comes with 140 kmph speed due to acceleration but now even 150 kmph bouncer becomes 115 kmph bouncer when it comes to batsman as it lose it's speed due to retardation of pitch .

    • @jamesd7045
      @jamesd7045 Před 3 lety +2

      @@goku54082 Some pitches have been slowed, but the speed guns are also different. The old guns measured speed when the ball passed the bat. Now speed is from the hand,which is faster (probably about 10%). So a 90mph ball in the 1970's is about 100mph in today's terms. Jeff Thomson was 100mph in 1970's terms, and probably the quickest I ever saw.

    • @jamesd7045
      @jamesd7045 Před 3 lety +1

      @@bonjourr100 now it may be. In the 70's it was as it passed the bat.

  • @ghabcdef
    @ghabcdef Před 9 lety +19

    If I was facing Garner, survived an LBW appeal and he seemed pissed, I'd fucking walk as fast as possible to the pavilion. Imagine being hit on the chest by him, and no protector either.

    • @EarlJohn61
      @EarlJohn61 Před 6 lety +1

      Use your bat, it's what it's there for!

  • @dfb1976
    @dfb1976 Před 4 lety +26

    Softened him up , the umpire should have given him out lbw earlier to spare him of this torment . This is pure joy to watch.

    • @daffyduck4674
      @daffyduck4674 Před rokem +1

      Terrible decision, was smacking into the top of middle stump.

    • @ananthkamath3478
      @ananthkamath3478 Před rokem

      That's why Sunil Gavaskar was rated highly by the West Indians

  • @marktaylor3657
    @marktaylor3657 Před rokem +2

    Two all time greats. Great footage.

  • @bernardjay379
    @bernardjay379 Před 5 lety +39

    Bowlers of that generation particularly the Windies bowlers were quick, hostile and nasty a century against the Windies quicks was worth a double century because of how difficult they were to score against but they were great bowlers no doubt.

  • @manivelan9672
    @manivelan9672 Před 4 lety +4

    Big Bird had all the big skills one needs as a fast bowler..the speed, bounce,swing, & cut everything rolled in to one! You don't want to face him fast tracks!! Will be a total nightmare..even in unhelpful pitches he is a handful to deal with..

  • @RealistVK
    @RealistVK Před 2 lety +5

    Fearsome Pace & Bounce by big Joel Garner roughed the tough guy Gregg Chappell. Fast bowling at its best.

  • @randyeduo
    @randyeduo Před 4 lety +10

    TAKE THAT UNDER YOUR GUT, SON. CHAPPLE WILL NEVER FORGET THIS EXPERIENCE

  • @richrockefeller3331
    @richrockefeller3331 Před 4 lety +22

    The LBW was going over.

    • @kenoliver8913
      @kenoliver8913 Před 4 lety +2

      Yep - on bouncy Australian wickets if the ball hits above the knee roll it is always too high to hit the stumps. Which the umpire knew.

    • @chainreaction1703
      @chainreaction1703 Před 4 lety +1

      Over leg stump

    • @davidgraham8299
      @davidgraham8299 Před 2 lety

      Clearly too high

  • @jshaers96
    @jshaers96 Před 4 lety +10

    People claim Garner wasn't that quick but the keeper's taking the ball on the rise standing well back here.

    • @paulmurray8922
      @paulmurray8922 Před 3 lety +2

      All relative. He was the least quick of that bunch of tearaways but he was by no means slow, or even medium.

  • @anujsaxena3967
    @anujsaxena3967 Před 4 lety +7

    Great fast bowler even today' s great batsmen woold have had difficulty in facing him despite of having batsmen friendly pitches and better guarding equipments.

  • @Goatboysminion
    @Goatboysminion Před 5 lety +13

    The man was a bloody good bowler. End of story.

  • @peerzadaabdulbasit6179
    @peerzadaabdulbasit6179 Před 5 lety +4

    Aggressive fast bowling has become a rare commodity these days

  • @hkukok
    @hkukok Před 4 lety +2

    This era was cricket at its finest, Windies skills honed by WSC made for the most formidable team in history. The deepest talent pool with the best athletes choosing cricket, and great matches involving Windies, Australia, England, Pakistan, New Zealand and India.

  • @swamistyle
    @swamistyle Před 7 lety +71

    While a little dated now, this TV coverage would still not look out of place today - replays, slow-mo, multiple camera angles, microphones, graphics on the screen - & this was all in 1979!!!! Compare this to the rubbish that was coming out of the BBC at the time (& continued for another decade). Australia (thanks to Kerry Packer) was light years ahead of the rest of the world & it would take until the 90s for everyone else to catch up.

    • @garfield4108
      @garfield4108 Před 5 lety +3

      Absolutely agree. Channel 9 was brilliant coverage of cricket

    • @nathanwilliams2152
      @nathanwilliams2152 Před 2 lety

      @@AAAAAA-gj2di - I respect where you’re coming from but I don’t agree. Packer did what needed to be done to make professional cricket competitive, and allow those who played for their country an honest days pay for an honest day’s labour. World Series Cricket was exactly what was needed to bring cricket into the modern era and have its athletes receive just recompense for the work they do (granted, there are discrepancies between various cricket boards in how they do this) but the principle is still there.

  • @shr011104
    @shr011104 Před 4 lety +3

    Batters like Chappell, Boycott, Gavaskar, Richards all had huge balls to take on the terror unleashed by the quickies of those days, be it Lillie-Thommo or the Fearsome Foursome... required sheer guts...the above not only faced them but scored tons of runs. Wondering when will I get to see the real cricket back.

    • @prachya1000
      @prachya1000 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Please don't forget Brian Close

    • @shr011104
      @shr011104 Před 3 měsíci

      @@prachya1000 who can forget that deadly overs from Holding

  • @boedickson5549
    @boedickson5549 Před 5 lety +16

    Either you give ur wicket or I'll take ur life

  • @carlmarks8170
    @carlmarks8170 Před 2 lety +1

    The West Indies were relentless in that era. There were no weak links. No let up; no respite. Andy Roberts... Joel Garner... Michael Holding... Colin Croft... Malcolm Marshall... Sylvester Clarke was a fearsome quality fast bowler who only managed to play 11 tests because those others were so good. From the first over until stumps, it was 90mph... short of a length... up into the rib cage and throat... with 3 slip fielders, 2 gullies and no restrictions on short pitched deliveries and no fines for slow over rates. They were unbeatable.

  • @shakeelsait9577
    @shakeelsait9577 Před 3 lety +2

    Great bowling extremely beautiful spell of quality fast bowling.

  • @hsports5284
    @hsports5284 Před 3 lety +2

    The comments clearly showing that 70s and 80s cricket quite different from today

  • @anupammukherjee5992
    @anupammukherjee5992 Před 5 lety +26

    Test cricket......
    Men cricket......

  • @amjadkhan-jv6xj
    @amjadkhan-jv6xj Před 4 lety +9

    This was when windies were feared by every team.

  • @riyazahmed208
    @riyazahmed208 Před 3 lety +3

    I m 55 years old. I was a big fan of Greg chappels batting in childhood . He looked tall sleek and graceful like a tin soldier . After him i found resemblence to greg chappel in Azharuddins batting style. Difference was: azhar was more wristy and stylish , chappell played with a straighter bat in V and had greater concentration powers compared to azhar . Sir Greg chappel was a better exponent of pull shot, azhar flick shot was better. Chappel could convert his big hundred into double hundrerd, azhar was more attacking on his day. Both had one thing in common , collors up and century in first and last tests.Incidently sir Greg chappel was Azharuddins role model , Azhar said after scoiring 3 hundrereds in a row.

    • @kartikamarjeet2082
      @kartikamarjeet2082 Před rokem

      Great Azharuddin! My favourite along with Great Rahul Dravid, Vinod Kambali and Andy Flower... The list is long, but yes. He was my 1st favourite and still is.

  • @Godplayzdice
    @Godplayzdice Před 2 lety +1

    Joel was greatest ODI bowler. Hardest bowler in history to hit. Impossible to score against.

  • @addalasurya8002
    @addalasurya8002 Před 4 lety

    Making great batsmen play school boyish shots , what an attack they had - the Windies, the video was an absolute treat.

  • @jstreete
    @jstreete Před 10 lety +14

    Brilliant footage. Contemporaries often say that Garner was the least quick of the four, but he looks pretty sharp here to me.

    • @legspin
      @legspin Před 10 lety +8

      When your baseline was Michael Holding you could see where they were coming from though. With Garner though, his best asset was his height. Balls on a good length would rise unexpectedly sharply.

    • @hyena131
      @hyena131 Před 8 lety +7

      +jstreete Garner deceptively quick.

    • @krell2130
      @krell2130 Před 4 lety

      pace isn't the only killer

    • @davidgraham8299
      @davidgraham8299 Před 4 lety +1

      Fast enough I think.

  • @anamikabhattacharjee3425
    @anamikabhattacharjee3425 Před 4 lety +1

    You were great sir. I like the bowling action very much

  • @mkeysou812
    @mkeysou812 Před 4 lety +19

    Let's put Steve Smith against Joel on this pitch with a GN one scoop circa 1979 and see if he still averages 70

    • @nathanbellamy3308
      @nathanbellamy3308 Před 4 lety +6

      Oh Smith would average sweet fuck all against this attack.

    • @TheJonkerr7
      @TheJonkerr7 Před 4 lety +2

      @@nathanbellamy3308 not so sure about that. Smith's technique is mainly back foot, very similar to Ian Chappell, Bruce Laird, Graham Gooch in that regard, and they were all very good performers v the WI. No doubt he wouldn't average 70 (!) but as driven as he is, I reckon he'd go alright.

    • @nathanbellamy3308
      @nathanbellamy3308 Před 4 lety +3

      @@TheJonkerr7 it's a very well know fact Smith is scared of the short ball. What are you on about?? Joel Garner would slay him.
      I met Joel garner too when I was a kid.

    • @TheJonkerr7
      @TheJonkerr7 Před 3 lety

      @@nathanbellamy3308 Scared of the short ball? He's not scared, it just sometimes get him in a tangle, like it can all players.
      Considering his sheer bloody mindedness and ADHD I reckon he'd find a way through it

    • @creambiscuit744
      @creambiscuit744 Před 3 lety

      With due respect, Smith’s era of greatness started almost with the end of bowling era... no current crop of bowlers can match those deadly windies bowlers... n add the flat pitches to that... likes of steyn, mcgrath, wasim akram, waqar younis would have eaten smith for breakfast.

  • @xaamir
    @xaamir Před 10 lety +10

    heck of a spell

  • @denvercheddie
    @denvercheddie Před 3 lety +4

    I wish they had speed guns back on those days. I would love to know the speed of some of those deliveries.

  • @Banu720
    @Banu720 Před 2 lety

    Joel Garner is my favourite.
    The variable bounce he produced is a treat. Many batsman were found confused with the height the ball will come. Marvelous bowler

  • @Beazle00
    @Beazle00 Před 7 lety +33

    Remember that Greg Chappell- between 1975-1980 scored 1821 runs against Roberts, Holding Garner and Croft ( the last two from 1977) at 69.

    • @johnartwell6925
      @johnartwell6925 Před 6 lety +9

      Beazle00, yeah if umpires not giving out LBW's and caught behind Greg Chappell would've been useless not scoring so much runs. The Aussies both players and their umpires forget that it's a gentleman's game.

    • @johnartwell6925
      @johnartwell6925 Před 6 lety +4

      Patrick, I reckoned we could've had a decent conversation without foul language. After all this forum is used to vent both facts and opinions. Furthermore is not only in this innings/series alone, even the next series 79/80 WI fast bowlers BLATANTLY got dubious decisions from Aussie umpires - we still won the series though.

    • @wearywanderer2722
      @wearywanderer2722 Před 4 lety +3

      @@johnartwell6925 With 2 West Indian Umpires Greg Chappell scored 620 runs in the 5 WSC Supertests in the West Indies in 1979 @ 69 with 3 centuries a 90 and a 85, Fact.

    • @sliferxxxx
      @sliferxxxx Před 4 lety +6

      For the uninitiated, Greg Chappell was an outstanding atg batsman. Anyone who doubts his credentials knows nothing about real cricket. Respect from the Caribbean

    • @painlesss13
      @painlesss13 Před 4 lety +3

      Spot on, chappells record is amazing. Comfortably the best against full strength west indies teams between 1975 and 1995

  • @jupiter-8405
    @jupiter-8405 Před 6 lety +123

    I miss test cricket and aggressive bowling like this, I used to love it. I'm losing interest in the sport now as one day games and T20 have strangled the test fomat, IMO they are cheap and nasty versions of the game.

    • @lonestar6709
      @lonestar6709 Před 6 lety +14

      I hate T20 also. Imagine Don Bradman at T20? He was 1s and 2s. Not slogging for 6 every shot. Silly format.

    • @EarlJohn61
      @EarlJohn61 Před 6 lety +6

      But he would've adapted to the requirements of the format... As too would've Sir Garfield Sobers & Barry Richards... (Now that's a top 3 to make your mouth drool)

    • @SivaKumar-kf6ee
      @SivaKumar-kf6ee Před 5 lety +10

      Flat tracks are being made to draw the crowds, These flat tracks making bowlers toothless, there is no real competition between bat and ball, it's not cricket, anyone can swing his bat

    • @AAAAAA-gj2di
      @AAAAAA-gj2di Před 5 lety +1

      @@lonestar6709 He had a SR of 72 in TEST CRICKET. He holds the record for making maximum runs in a single day (308*). He would have been fun at T20Is too

    • @anamikabhattacharjee3425
      @anamikabhattacharjee3425 Před 4 lety +1

      Yes you are right. Nowadays there are too many restrictions and the bowler cannot even bowl 2 bouncers in an over.

  • @zibtihaj3213
    @zibtihaj3213 Před 10 lety +7

    How about Holding from this series ? Thx

  • @johnmehaffey9953
    @johnmehaffey9953 Před 4 lety +6

    I just loved Joel class act

  • @azeemmayo6983
    @azeemmayo6983 Před 3 lety +9

    Gavaskar made 13 centuries against these nightmares,
    Respect from Pakistan for Great Gavaskar.

    • @paulmurray8922
      @paulmurray8922 Před 3 lety +2

      Yup. That is why I laugh at folks who rank some of the modern day batsmen higher than Sunny. The original Little Master.

    • @bobdown5520
      @bobdown5520 Před 3 lety

      Wrong

    • @flash-uj6ly
      @flash-uj6ly Před 2 lety

      Who is Joel Garner? Some third class garbage thrash fast bowler. Pragyan Ojha is billion times better than Joel Garner. Watch this video.
      Pragyan Ojha is a better bowler than Michael Holding, Joel Garner, Malcolm Marshall,Colin Croft and Andy Roberts. Pragyan Ojha is billion times better than Joel Garner. Pragyan Ojha is fastest to take 100 test wickets in his 22nd test match. Who is Joel Garner? Some third class garbage thrash fast bowler! Watch this video of Pragyan Ojha destroying west indies.
      czcams.com/video/bBIz8abq5Gs/video.html

    • @SriShridhar
      @SriShridhar Před 2 lety

      Imran used to rate batter by his defense against an unplayable delivery not by the fours and sixes..

  • @blackrose474
    @blackrose474 Před 2 lety +1

    Joel Garner and Curtly Ambros were almost 'death' to batsman. West Indies pace batteries proved to be fatal to these wonderful batsmen...No mercy...
    Greg Chappell was great batsman of his time but even he was bowled as club cricketer by this Giant Joel Garner...

  • @dmps000111
    @dmps000111 Před 9 lety +12

    Garner was nippy as hell. Thing is bowlers of that height make the ball travel through so much more distance that batsmen always have that extra half second to play the ball. But the instantaneous velocity on the ball looks more than many of the shorter 'genuinely quick' bowlers.

  • @curtisalleyne3710
    @curtisalleyne3710 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I met Joel Garner in Barbados a lovely friendly guy as long as you weren't a batman 😂

  • @garethwest9069
    @garethwest9069 Před rokem +1

    Umpire was right not to give that. Definitely too high and the replays confirm. GC was rattled and wasn't his day. Garner was a beast!

  • @sashidharkaranam2618
    @sashidharkaranam2618 Před 3 lety

    *_Brutal , yet clinical_*
    *Classic fast bowling, softening up the batsman with bullets into the ribcage, and finally snaring him up with a snorter ! *
    *Even a batsman of Greig Chappel's caliber made to look like a bunny !*
    *West Indian pace battery of that era is truly unparalleled in the history of test cricket.*
    *Today's batsmen would need to wear a spacesuit to face that kind of fast bowling I believe !*

  • @sugarnads
    @sugarnads Před 10 měsíci

    Loved watching Big Bird bowl.

  • @awadheshkumar
    @awadheshkumar Před 7 měsíci

    Vintage test cricket. Superb balling. Great shot and then the fall. This is what Test cricket was all about in those days. Today is the day of pajama cricket.

  • @bmmr
    @bmmr Před 4 lety +1

    Ball vs Skull era of cricket 🏏

  • @TheQ-Continuum
    @TheQ-Continuum Před 8 lety +20

    Joel "Big Bird" Garner with his high arm action was an awkward bowler to face. He never took as many wickets as Roberts and Holding, but was a real handful and was never an easy bowler to score runs from:

    • @cooldewd35
      @cooldewd35 Před 7 lety +5

      Garner was brilliant. Had a better bowling average than both Garner and Holding. All great bowlers.

    • @kennethcourt4741
      @kennethcourt4741 Před 7 lety +9

      Garner 259 Test wickets, Holding 249, Roberts 202. Surprising but true. In addition Garner had an average of barely over 20, making him one of the statistically most successful bowlers of all time. For some reason Holding and Roberts are much more famous.

    • @TheQ-Continuum
      @TheQ-Continuum Před 7 lety +1

      I stand corrected ! Big bird did take more wickets than Holding and Roberts. Their actions had faster run-ins than Garner's. Holding was graceful and fast flowing ,while Roberts had a fast rocking action. Big Bird had a more slower looking approach to the wicket that may have been deceptive to watch, but the delivery was just as quick !

    • @psn1729
      @psn1729 Před 7 lety +1

      all four ruthless my friend best fast quartet ever

    • @PlanetoftheDeaf
      @PlanetoftheDeaf Před 5 lety +1

      Garner was brilliant in limited overs cricket as he was so hard to hit!

  • @captpicard6894
    @captpicard6894 Před 3 lety +1

    Joel Garner never got the respect he deserved. It’s only because he was so accurate, hostile and so difficult to score off that allowed Holding, Roberts, and particularly Marshall to take as many wickets as they did bowling from the opposite end to Joel.

  • @szuberi
    @szuberi Před 4 lety

    Aggressive bowling. Batting in that era was a different class.

  • @Ajay_Kumar-uq8rd
    @Ajay_Kumar-uq8rd Před 3 lety +1

    Great bowling and batsman coping under pressure..

  • @Subash0069
    @Subash0069 Před 8 lety +17

    Damn garner only played 8 test matches when he was 27.

    • @kwl189
      @kwl189 Před 5 lety +3

      Robbed of his brilliance before he was even in his prime. Sadly tests were not played as much as they are now and preparations were certainly much longer too. Now there's an imbalance of quantity over quality. Certainly cherished a single test when Joel bowled.

    • @evanaskew6652
      @evanaskew6652 Před 5 lety +6

      His record would be different if you included world series super tests. Which would be even more impressive as they were wickets taken against the 1970 Aystralians and a world xi with Richard's, Abaas, Miandad, Greig, knott, majid khan and Dennis amis.

    • @AAAAAA-gj2di
      @AAAAAA-gj2di Před 5 lety +3

      It took months to travel between continents

    • @evanaskew6652
      @evanaskew6652 Před 5 lety +1

      @@AAAAAA-gj2di you know they had air travel by 1979 dont you?

    • @evanaskew6652
      @evanaskew6652 Před 5 lety

      @@AAAAAA-gj2di cool

  • @brusselssprouts560
    @brusselssprouts560 Před rokem

    Always a pleasure to see either Chappell brothers sorted out.

  • @karlmylnere5712
    @karlmylnere5712 Před 4 lety +2

    Popular opinion states that Joel was no as quick as his partners, correct most of the time but, when needed, he could be just as quick as the others, but, as has been stated with his bounce and length he had no need to be.

  • @jshaers96
    @jshaers96 Před 4 lety +2

    Garner wasn't just tall, he was strongly built too, all muscle. Ambrose seems quite lightweight compared to the Big Bird. What a line-up of bowlers the Windies had back then, bloody terrifying!

    • @simongleaden2864
      @simongleaden2864 Před 10 měsíci

      Yes, and in that series a young Malcolm Marshall couldn't even get in the XI!

  • @davewilson9738
    @davewilson9738 Před 2 lety

    Crazy how good that whole team was - Black Death! An amazing cricketing side.

  • @atharvagawde8237
    @atharvagawde8237 Před 3 lety +2

    Sunny gavaskar never wore a helmet in his entire career

  • @Dua1512
    @Dua1512 Před 2 lety

    They should have Chapel and Garner talk about it now with video playing!

  • @kasinathar1874
    @kasinathar1874 Před 2 lety

    Kim Hughes the legend on the other end having a chuckle.😎👍🏽

  • @psn1729
    @psn1729 Před 7 lety +6

    kudos windies gaints after ambrose walsh duo the real windies fast bowling is not seen

  • @enthusiastlearner8404
    @enthusiastlearner8404 Před 3 lety +1

    West Indian bowlers !!!
    Sir Viv's batting average in
    domestic cricket was nearly
    half compare to his international cricket average. Luckyly he was in
    West Indian team.

  • @davidwiltshire-craine5692
    @davidwiltshire-craine5692 Před 11 měsíci

    Absolutely love Joel!!

  • @kenphillips9904
    @kenphillips9904 Před 9 měsíci

    Sir Andy Roberts, Michael holding, Collin Croft and Joel Garner. The undisputed four horsemen. Never in the history in the game of cricket there was an attack like the four horseman

  • @cquilty1
    @cquilty1 Před 6 lety +16

    Garner a batsman's nightmare.

    • @davidgraham8299
      @davidgraham8299 Před 4 lety +2

      They had four nightmare bowlers at the same time AND quality backup as well

  • @kiranbhabal3329
    @kiranbhabal3329 Před 2 lety

    Once reporters asked Clive Lloyd don't you have any spin bowler in your touring side. He replied Joel Garner is our spin bowler, as he was the slowest among the fearsome pace quartet. By no means he was slow.😨

  • @mickcundall4036
    @mickcundall4036 Před 2 lety +1

    Is that the great Yorkshireman FS Trueman commentating?

  • @ashersharif6264
    @ashersharif6264 Před 2 lety

    Greg Chappel was a master against that battery of vicious WI attack and that on difficult pitches which were not well prepared.

  • @jonathonjubb6626
    @jonathonjubb6626 Před 2 lety

    Just like when we played, no arm guards, no chest protectors, no grills, no thigh pads - man's game!

  • @denayetsajal8343
    @denayetsajal8343 Před 3 lety +2

    THE BIG BIRD

  • @hassannasir6478
    @hassannasir6478 Před 7 lety +4

    great.fast.bowler..nasir.rodeni

  • @djhaijfl
    @djhaijfl Před 4 lety

    Those days batsman are on the mercy of bowlers, great era

  • @MyRammy1
    @MyRammy1 Před 3 lety +2

    Australia had a team of 14 men in those days.

  • @rk3726
    @rk3726 Před 2 lety

    Imagine , Greg chappel being the most technically sound and the best batsman of that Aus era, getting such pounding, what would be the other ones sitting in the pavilion going through?? Once Garner done his over, Roberts and Holding and Croft were waiting. In fact Garner was the nicest one of that lot, how scary is that !!!!!

  • @markporter9738
    @markporter9738 Před 5 lety

    Super effort that.

  • @tyleratkinson8475
    @tyleratkinson8475 Před 2 lety

    Are You Uploading First Test Australia Vs West Indies 1979/80 ???

  • @randyeduo
    @randyeduo Před 5 lety +9

    THEY MADE HIM ANGRY WHEN THEY DECIDED TO BOO HIM. HE WAS HAVING NONE OF IT. HE SHOWED THEM WHAT HE CAN DO WITH THIS BALL IN HIS HAND.
    The bouncers came in to intimidate him

    • @lexol3347
      @lexol3347 Před 4 lety

      Chappel: Why didn't you send me when I was LBW?
      Umpire: I must have my fun too. Tough luck that it's at your expense.

  • @rsedsrahi8794
    @rsedsrahi8794 Před 8 lety +2

    the best pacer

  • @rajskop
    @rajskop Před 4 lety

    This is the real game just good bat & bowl contest....

  • @drdebdattabhattacharyya904

    No one is good against express pace bowling and short pitch deliveries . Here Guru Greg is dancing around .

  • @nawshercse98
    @nawshercse98 Před 4 lety +1

    1 run from that era equivalent to 2 run of current era. Basically scoring 5000 run during that great bowling era would be easily equivalent to 10000 runs of current era. Just wondering if Viv Richards would play now he would have score 100 centuries in less than 10 years.

  • @manjulakr9637
    @manjulakr9637 Před 3 lety +5

    I heard he has once clocked 91mph by using old method of calculating speed I think actually how much was his fastest ball

    • @vickyvirk4424
      @vickyvirk4424 Před 2 lety +1

      He was no more than 82-83 mph....stop making things up. I see you posting the same type of message on CZcams videos. Garner was not all that fast.

    • @anirudhsuresh4481
      @anirudhsuresh4481 Před rokem +1

      @@vickyvirk4424 If you don't know exactly about Garner please don't comment any think here he is no where near his fastest Garner has bowled much faster in 1984/85

  • @J_Teriyaki
    @J_Teriyaki Před rokem

    Chappell immediately gets off the mark. That's how it's done in benefit/testimonial matches. Not much charity from "Big Bird" afterwards!. Regards from Rockhampton, Queensland 👍

  • @authenticselector3183
    @authenticselector3183 Před 6 lety +1

    Greg certainly had some Brian Close like bruising...

  • @azzharuddinqureshi380
    @azzharuddinqureshi380 Před 3 lety

    Smooth hand higharm action realy this is classical bolling.

  • @adinarayanamoorthy3525
    @adinarayanamoorthy3525 Před rokem +1

    Leave alone Sunil gavaskar the gr eat Indian opening batsman who faced the west Indies fearsome fa st bowlers all his career with effort less ease.He is special.To point ou t another something more special batsman Sachin TENDULKAR faci ng the same battery of super fast bowlers at blistering pace how ca n he counter.My opinion,he would have gained more reputation nam e fame beating all time greats.Su ch are his level of skills confidenc e and talent.He would have been an object lesson to everybody.Tha t is his ever powering greatness.Gift of GOD.

  • @shaneb6004
    @shaneb6004 Před 4 lety +2

    Windies were at their best back then . Joel Garner , Michael Holding and Co. bowling 8 ball overs at a very good Aussie batting line-up .

  • @krishnbimanagar
    @krishnbimanagar Před 9 lety +8

    umpire was kinda intimidated to give out for that LBW