Is this an Error in the Book of Mormon?
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- čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
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Dave speaks about a error in the Book of Mormon showing the word Christian and the Christian church 145 years before Christ came and redeemed us. How is this possible?
I left the church several years ago and thought maybe the church was getting more Christ centered under Nelson but then I got a picture of one of my nieces daughters mission announcement and the only book in her hand was a book of Mormon. Then my daughter in law sent me a copy of my oldest grandsons missionary return announcement and the only book in his hand was the book of Mormon. I think the church is actually trying harder to indoctrinate the youth and getting them away from the bible. Shame on them.
@everyday tenor no
@@MrSloppy100 nine
@everyday tenor The New Testament and Old Testament should always be taught together.
We may be studying the Old Testament but we are Cross-referencing to the New Testament & Book of Mormon. We are also cross-referencing to modern day scriptures.
@@smileysun9212 However that is why Mormonism isn't part of Christianity.
"pay no attention to the man behind the curtain . . . " - the shell game continues to unravel. Glory to God for all things!
I love my orthodox faith. Unparalleled beauty and wisdom. If you read the church father's you simply can't be anything other than a traditional Christian ☦️
There is beauty with other expressions of Christianity. I love great Worship Music and feel His Spirit and Love lifting my hands and praising Him so intently. Yet I also love the objectivity and history of the Orthodox faith as well. Beautiful too.
Im glad you are happy with your faith and recognize the beauty in it but this is just an absurd claim. It’s observably, provably false. Simple as. We all read the Patristic writings yet somehow we all aren’t Orthodox. Take care, brother
@@gc2585 you're right, I was being hyperbolic. I guess it would be better to say if you agree with the church father's it would be incoherent to be anything other than a traditional Christian.
I'm not trying to debate however, so may God bless you.
@@metalheadhippie8738 Sorry, dont get on here often. Appreciate you. Blessings to you as well
Your videos helped me discover Orthodoxy back in 2019. Thanks, Dave.
Oh, that's great. So happy to hear.
@DaveBartosiewicz
Hi Dave. I have loved listening to your videos. I was raised Mormon stopped going 25 years ago. I didn’t believe it or comprehend it. I recently realized that even though I don’t consider myself Mormon and haven’t for a long time. My views of God has been completely Mormon. You helped deprogram me from a lot of the false teachings thru these videos. I have been trying to show my mother the same thing. I haven’t had much success. In a recent conversation with her the concept of exaltation came up. All of the sudden it him me. I’m sharing this with you as I think it will stir Mormons hearts. The Mormon view they don’t recognize is as follows. We are spirit children of Heavenly Father. Jesus and Satan are both our brothers. Heavenly Father was once a man and walked another earth like planet. That was a test he endured to be exalted to become a god. Who tempted Heavenly Father when he was a man? It wasn’t Satan that’s his son. So based on what they believe it’s a pattern from eternity to eternity. So basically heavenly father father had an evil son also. When the current Mormons are exalted they will bear an evil son to tempt and test their other spirit children. The Mormon plan of exaltation also means eternal evil. They will always be at war with evil. That’s not Good News. I shared that with my mom and it really disturbed her. She’s on a truth seeking path now and coming around slowly.
That's awesome Dave. Haven't thought about what you said, but it's so true. Thank you.
And not only is evil not eradicated but in the Mormon plan of exaltation it increases. There is the same number of evil entities as gods
I never knew about the latter stuff you mentioned. Wow. Thanks for mentioning it.
Interesting. Will have to check my 1830 copy of the BoM being that there's thousands of changes to the current BoM.
There is
The entire book is error.
Now what do I do? 45 years as a strong believing member of the LDS Church, all the sacrifices I have made and now what 😟
Get a support group. Know you are not alone. You have to break the chain and not allow your family to be in this cult. It will be difficult, but anything worth it, is difficult. God bless my brother!
great video!
Brother go on mormon stories podcast
It’s a translation. Nephites didn’t speak English. They had a word for the believers that would be translated as essentially the same as Christian.
miss you. you and Aaron
Like the video Dave you make some good points though I was under the impression that some did receive the Holy Spirit in the old testament but your point is still valid because of the supposed timeliness and the way in which those things took place here's another thing about the bom even after all the changes it seems to me that the mormon church is nothing at all like the stories depicted in the bom as far as practical application of beliefs because simply the bom seems to center more on Christian views where in present day you don't here Christ preached often in Lds church if at all sure offhanded on being Christlike in conversation bit not much in teaching or during talks or in study lessons it's simply not Christ centered at all I do not mean any individual here only the institution itself it's quasi works based and self glorification by works not gonna argue the point here but basically it's because they teach a different God
Christ is preached every Sunday and not just a little bit.
@@rachelsewell7026 if this in regards to lds church then I wholeheartedly disagree but I'm not here to argue about it Jesus of Nazareth is Lord of Lord's and King of Kings and if being honest is important then I have shared my honest view I have not spoken ill of any individual or there journey who is lds but please consider that in being honest it's clear that lds church teaches a different Jesus and because of that it can't in my view be a true Church because we know the Bible clearly say any other gospel preached is to be called accursed of course I won't speak ill of those not against us and I have no need to talk down on well meaning folks but I can say in honesty that what is taught by the Lds church is Heresy
Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon into the ENGLISH language. And while the Nephites probably didn't use the specific term "Christian" before Christ was born, this is the word Joseph Smith used. It's really pretty simple, it's not rocket science here.
Errors. Plural. There are too many that contradictions the Bible
There's a great band out of Israel on u- tube called Jewish Messianic alliance Israel.
The answer to this is in Isaiah 44:26 That saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure; even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid.
Isaiah 45:1 Thus saith the Lord to his annointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut.
Isaiah lived around 700 B.C. The Babylonian captivity was in 600 B.C. Cyrus was king of Persia after the Babylonian kingdom fell. Cyrus was born in 600 B.C and died in 530 B.C.
So if you left the church when your faith in the Book of Mormon was destroyed because Nephite prophets were shown revelation concerning the life of Christ, sorry to hear you are going to throw your Bible away because Isaiah was shown Cyrus back in 700 B.C.
So where do you go next? Bhuddism?
Feel the exact same way. You've got to approach Mormons through faith not the historical critical method that someone like bart erhman would use to shred the whole Bible.
Uh no sorry, Isaiah wasn't predicting Cyrus into the future. References to Cyrus are in Deutero-Isaiah which is written during and after Cyrus time period so the author/authors of Deutero-Isaiah would have known about Cyrus when they were portraying Isaiah as "predicting" Cyrus. Book of Daniel does exactly the same thing pretending to be written during the Babylonian conquest but was actually written during the Hellenistic period of Alexander the Great.
@@nicholasmargaritis3356 even if the theories of deutero- and trito-Isaiah are true, this doesnt mean insipired prophets couldnt prophesy of Christ
Nephites never existed.
@@LadyMaria lol
The Prophet Joseph Smith said “you may leave the Church ,but you will NOT leave the Church alone”
I'm sorry that you fell you have to kick against Church !
It’s sad to me that people who once belonged to the Church stopped believing & can’t stop kicking. Everyone has free agency to believe it or not but why still kick? Leave it alone & move on.
I left the Church when I was 15 because I didn’t believe anymore but I didn’t go against the Church. I have respect & love for everyone. If you believe in something & your happy so be it. I want everyone to be happy no matter where they find it. If a Child believes in Santa Clause should I go break that Child’s heart saying Santa isn’t real? I won’t do that because it makes me happy to see that Child happy in whatever they believe when it makes them happy. Let them find out for themselves that Santa isn’t real. I see this Guy found out that the Church isn’t true & I respect that because I left the Church. I never had a testimony of the Book of Mormon & had a spiritual experience. I’ve had people shake my soul with their testimonies in testimony meeting & why can’t I have an awakening to gain a testimony. I finally had one when I was 33 when I was about to end someone’s life. I hated how I was feeling & if God is really there I needed help. I took a dusty Book of Mormon off the shelf & got on my knees. I was blaming God & I wanted this feeling to be removed. When I opened my eyes there in front of me underlined was the Lord talking to me in 3rd Nephi 11:29-30. I had the Soirit of contention that the adversary was stirring my heart to anger & that such things should be done away. After reading away I felt the Lord’s hand take all that anger from me. I went back to Church & haven’t felt that in 17yrs. My spiritual eyes have been opened to know when adversary is attacking me. When I was trying to go to the Temple this girl came in my life. The Lord warned me about her & I wouldn’t listen. She called me at work & broke up with me. The next day waiting for the bus to take me home from work I felt I needed to walk to the tabernacle. I didn’t want to & that feeling was very forceful. I walked down to the Tabernacle not knowing why I was there. I waited for the bus there & I turned around to see that girl who broke up with me coming down the sidewalk. We got back together but that night I had a vision. I was in the Temple & I seen Christ coming out one of the doors. Then I seen myself holding hands with this girl I never seen before & we was walking towards the Temple carrying a bag in our free hands. I finally learned the adversary sent both of us to the tabernacle that day & wasn’t from the Lord. I’’ve been deceived many of times & I’m still being attacked from the adversary. I finally made to the Temple & she left me again. I ended up being incarcerated & I promised the Lord I would follow Him if He saved me from prison. After praying I knew what the Judge would do before I faced him. The Judge told me this was the hardest case he ever had & I should be going to prison. He lower his head & for some reason couldn’t send me there. A lot of people witnessed the Lord changed the judge’s heart. One cellmate that was there telling everyone back at the cell block what he just witnessed. He knew the BoM is true & didn’t need to read it but he didn’t want to give up his coffee & other things. He didn’t want to be tied down to the Church. I’ve had many blessings after coming back. The Lord helped me to get off meds for depression & I stopped seeing Therapists. Therapists confused me but when I turned it into a Gospels principal I understood it & would teach them. There where members of the Church & told me your right but they couldn’t teach that in a government funded facility. I tell everyone the the Lord is my Therapist & the Gospel is my meds. I prayfully study scriptures everyday & go to Church every Sunday. I don’t know why but when I skip a day being Spiritually feed the adversary attacks me more. I could go on & on how I’m being blessed & I only listen to the Lord. I don’t listen to Bishops & they have deceived me. I know there not perfect. I was told I shouldn’t go off my meds from a Bishop but the Lord wanted me to & I’m glad I listened to Him. Also there’s a lot of BoM evidence I have found online where others scratch there heads not knowing what it is. Once you tell them that’s from the people of the BoM they say it’s fake & sometimes destroys it. It’s sometimes better to not tell them because it’s by faith to know the truth. Even if others still seen the truth they will still fall away. There’s things in the Church I don’t agree with but I take my questions to the Lord. I prayfully study scriptures & then I write in a notebook. I’m amazed of the things I write that answers my prayers. I love giving talks & lessons because I’m learning myself. I have just written talks for myself because it’s how the Lord communicates with me. I listen to the Lord & not anyone else. This is my life changing story & I could go on & on but I know it dosen’t change peoples minds or convinces them but this is what I believe in. President Nelson has gotten prepared for the pandemic. We where like what’s he talking about to buckle up our seat belts & hold on. Also started the Home Centered Church with come follow me. I’m glad this Guy has found a way that makes him happy & may God bless him.
It is important to warn people.
Alma 46:15
One, they would not have known that "Christ" was coming, as "Christ". Two, they would not have known the Greek word for "Annointed One" Christos !
They might have known him as Yeshua H'Machiach... They might have known him as the coming Messiah... maybe. But, they would not have known him as Ihsous Christos; and of course like other "Jews" they would have had the same misconceptions about the Messiah coming!
The 'fact' that the people in Alma know him as "Christ" , or believed in his organized Church , is proof positive that (from internal evidence) that the BOM is a 19th century plagiarized work!
Of course the BOM is categorically demonstrably NOT TRUE.
marcus (M.A.T.S; M.Div.) ex mo
When you are in the church and reading the book of Mormon and not the Bible because they always emphasized the BOM you are so indoctrinated you don't notice these crazy passages. Just because the BOM mentions Christ you think the church is Christ's church. These young people leaving on missions and coming back from missions probably have never heard Jesus called the Messiah like I hadn't when I was their age. I didn't even think about the Jewishness of Jesus. The only pictures I saw at church were a white and delight some Jesus. I'm 70 so yes white and delight some was used quite often in the church when I was growing up. A few years ago when my dad was getting close to dying I mentioned to him to not be to surprised when he saw Jesus and He was Jewish. My dad was a wonderful man but was a bit prejudice because when he went on his mission to the south he was told not to teach the blacks the gospel. But back then they didn't use the word black so that's how he justified his prejudice. When the blacks got the priesthood he said if he ever got a black bishop he would leave the church. So sad that he thought that way but he was raised in mormonville cache valley.
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Good luck Mark.
*Iesous Christos
It is pretty simple. The Book of Mormon didn’t come out of the ground with the name “Christ” on it. Go look up example of what the golden plates writing looked like. It was translated in our day by Joseph Smith. So when Joseph Smith came across Jesus Christ, it doesn’t matter what they called him back then. He is translating it Christ because that is what we call him.
@@rachelsewell7026 But did they even exist?
Hi Dave,
Good question. The reason that latter-day saints may think 'lightly' about this, as you put it, is because in latter-day saints theology, it is believed that the doctrines of baptism, repentance, receiving the holy ghost were taught since Adam. So it is not surprising to them to learn that it was also taught 150 years before Christ. If you would like to learn more about why LDS people believe that you can refer to Moses 6:51-53 in their book of scripture called the Pearl of Great price. I hope that answers the question.
The Mormon god does even exist.
Dave, John the Baptist was baptizing people prior to Christs ministry (see Matt chapter 3). So it's not unlikely that other people, who also made historical records, would have an undertsanding of Christ and his atonement. Nor do you undretsand what it means to be baptised. You obviously don't undertsand the atonement and the Saviors infinite sacrifice. Also read 2 Nephi 29.....
6 Thou fool, that shall say: A aBible, we have got a Bible, and we need no more Bible. Have ye obtained a Bible save it were by the Jews?
7 Know ye not that there are more anations than one? Know ye not that I, the Lord your God, have created all men, and that I remember those who are upon the bisles of the sea; and that I rule in the heavens above and in the cearth beneath; and I bring forth my dword unto the children of men, yea, even upon all the nations of the earth?
8 Wherefore murmur ye, because that ye shall receive more of my word? Know ye not that the atestimony of btwo nations is a cwitness unto you that I am God, that I remember one dnation like unto another? Wherefore, I speak the same words unto one nation like unto another. And when the two enations shall run together the testimony of the two nations shall run together also.
9 And I do this that I may prove unto many that I am the asame yesterday, today, and forever; and that I speak forth my bwords according to mine own pleasure. And because that I have spoken one cword ye need not suppose that I cannot speak another; for my dwork is not yet finished; neither shall it be until the end of man, neither from that time henceforth and forever.
10 Wherefore, because that ye have a Bible ye need not suppose that it contains all my awords; neither bneed ye suppose that I have not caused more to be written.
There was no Biblical Compilation until the 5th century AD in the West and 6th century in the East..
Also, Orthodox Christians would know what it means to be baptized.
@@LadyMaria Do you? becuase if you did you would undterstand that baptism is the gate by which we enter and covenant with the Lord that we will be faithful to him and endure to the end. We get baptized to show our commtiment to Gods commandments and to follow his example.
FYI: the scripture above that I quoted from The Book of Mormon is called prophecy....It's what prophets did...They foretold or prophesied truths to those who would listen. In this case he's refering to the Orthodox Christians of this day and age. You might want to pay attention.
@@ksanofsky6 I don't recognize the BoM as anything more than 19th century literature.
The following has always been believed in the Church (Orthodox) since the 1st century regarding holy baptism:
We die and rise with Christ in proper baptism (thrice immersion in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit; and are born again of water and the Spirit), we become adopted sons and daughters of God the Father, the Holy Spirit descends upon us, we are incorporated into the Body of Christ which is His Bride and Church (Orthodox), we are infused with His grace.
Holy Chrismation (anointing with holy Chrism oil to be sealed with the Holy Spirit) follows right after baptism. Right after that is the Holy Eucharist, Christ Himself, given to the individual as true Food and true Drink. These are the three most important Holy Mysteries (Sacraments), only one of which can be repeated, reception of the Holy Eucharist.
Sorry, but you do not know Holy Orthodoxy and in the BoM it refers to Protestants and Roman Catholics only as that's all who Smith knew at the time he wrote the narrative.
Our Saints have truly prophesied in every age and even right now things are unfolding. A Saint of ours who reposed in 1994 foresaw the whole C0V1D thing and the vaxx that would hurt people and cause them to die. Your 'prophets' do not prophecy. You might want to pay attention.
May God bless you. ☦
The Mormon god doesn't even exist
That's not unusual at all. They had it revealed to them that Jesus Christ was the savior from before the foundations of the earth were laid. And they lived as if it had happened, looking forward to his birth and mission, while observing the laws they had at hand. Our Heavenly Fathers servants are privileged to many insights as he sees fit. That isn't an error in the BOM, but in your own understanding.
I agree that Christians didn't exist in America but disagree with your why. You have to meet Mormons on their own turf which is still the turf of spiritual faith.
They believe that Christ was revealed to the nephites more fully than to the Jews, because of their faithfulness. They think the more faithful you are, the more knowledge you'll have. So the nephites were ahead of their time with baptism and the gospel because God foreknew the ministry of Christ, and revealed it to them.
I think approaching the book of Mormon from a historical critical method is a fallacy and the reason why many exmormons also leave religion all together. What your premise is is that it wasn't possible for ancient Americans to know through revelation, details of the ministry of the messiah. The reason being, it's an anachronism.
This is the language of historical critics. They read the book of Daniel and say that it's not possible for Daniel to have known about the Seleucid empire in Babylon, so we don't think Daniel really wrote this or that it's inspired by God.
Can they prove that Nephites existed?
The Mormon god doesn't even exist
I know the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints is true with all my heart.
The Mormon god is not biblical and does not exist.
@@ShineBrightly that must be your god because The Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints believe in God the father the almighty God, The God of the whole universe and in his son Jesus Christ and in the Holy Ghost....
@@kobidoggy7575 you have been deceived my friend.... The Mormon leaders teach you and the whole world about a totally different false jesus and false god.
Anyone that is actually honest with themselves and with God can clearly and plainly see the obvious difference between the True “One and Only God” Jesus Christ, taught by Gods Own Words in the Bible - and the false Mormon gods taught by the Mormon leaders.
Unfortunately, The Actual Fact Is, the Mormon god does not exist...
The Mormon god once was a mortal man, lives near a star called kolob, likely has many many wives that bare billions of his children, and is the literal father of Satan, and the Mormon god “ironically” tllleaches Mormons can become gods EXACTLY like Satan desires to be a god! Mormonism literally worships a false god.
As Aposed to The True and Living Jesus Christ who is literally The One and Only God, creator of the universe and savior of the world! True Christians follow the one and ONLY Lord, God and savior Jesus Christ... not the false Mormon christ who is Satan’s bother.
In other words.. the Mormon god and the Mormon jesus literally do not exist. And the Mormon leaders have deceived most their followers into believing the false Mormon Christ is the same Jesus as the True Christian GOD, Jesus Christ....
The Mormon false prophets KNOW “full well” the Mormon Christ they teach and preach about is not - AT ALL - the same as the ONE and ONLY True and Living God Jesus Christ....
The Mormon leaders are unfortunately lying with horrible manipulation and KNOW full well they are deceiving their members. The Mormon leaders fulfill scripture right before your very eyes.
Gal 1:8-9
8 But though we, or an angel (Moroni) from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that was hich we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man (Joseph Smith) preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Matt 24:24
24 For there shall arise false Christs (brother of Satan), and false prophets (Mormon leaders), and shall shew great signs and wonders (book of Mormon); insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect (you).
You have been taught to speak as though the Mormon jesus is the same True Christian Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ - and yet Mormonism literally teaches Jesus and his Atoning sacrifice on the cross ALONE Is NOT enough to save mankind. Mormonism teaches you MUST pay the Mormon church - in order to enter the Mormon temple - in order to receive “saving ordinances” - in order to be “saved” in the highest Mormon heaven. Then “maybe” the Mormon jesus will save you … maybe.
To teach this false doctrine is literally teaching Jesus is NOT enough to save you. Mormonism literally teaches YOU MUST do all these other things… and even then still - Mormons never “know” if they have done “enough” to be saved.
Mormonism literally takes down the cross of Jesus and hides it away - then puts up a giant “man angel” on top their temples.
Then the Mormon leaders deceptively steal the name of our Lord God Jesus Christ and place it in the name of their church - and AGAIN - “deceive the elect with great signs and wonders” (Matt 24:24). The deception is clearly revealed!
The Mormon leaders teach, not only was their Mormon god once a mortal man, but his father and grandfather - on and on - were all once mortal men too (polytheism - endless gods). The Mormon leaders also teach they too can become a god EXACTLY like Satan desires to become a god! The deception is clearly revealed!
And yet Mormons continuously ignore or attempt to excuse away the absolute inexcusable facts - The Mormon leaders are documented, verified and proven liars of Mormon history, doctrines and finances… they are proven LIARS and deceivers…
… And Sadly Mormonism acts exactly like the ancient Israelites- as God has revealed in these last days the FULL truth of Mormonism’s lies and manipulation… it is literally like God sending mana from heaven, and Mormons refuse to eat, or Moses and his serpent staff, and Mormons refuse to look!
So so sad, yet so so revealing.
We truly pray the God will give you and all Mormons “eyes to see” and “ears to hear” the true gospel of Jesus Christ filled with unconditional love and grace. We pray in HIS name Jesus Christ, amen
Jesus is enough
@@kobidoggy7575 The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are all fully the one God. ☦
I know that the church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints is false, and I believe that with all my ❤️
Where does that leave us?
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So LDS believers are accused of not wanting to discuss things that might require them to go too deep. So, Mr. Orthodox Christian: Are Adam and Eve, Noah's Flood and the Tower of Babel historical events that happened as described in the Bible? A simple yes or no will do. What's that? you don't want to look at those too closely because it makes you uncomfortable to acknowledge that your holy book is fool of fairy tales?
Do you think that maybe you are just a credulous person that has gone from one belief system to another and then another?
I joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints because i was searching for the truth, and God gave it to me. Now, first of all Dave, there is no such thing as mormonism, and you know that. When the Father and the Son appeared to Joseph Smith in his youth, the Saviour forbade him to join any of the churches of that time because said He : They are all an abomination in His sight, that they draw near to Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.You have not proven or convinced me that the Book of Mormon is false, because I do not deny the power of the Holy Ghost. It is by that power that I know that the LDS Church is true.There are Thosands of LDS members apostatizing in our day, you being one of them. One of the problems in our Church now, as I see it, is that the snoring of the Latter Day Saints is so loud that many are not able to either see nor hear the signs or the doctrines in their complacency. Therefore they are shying away from discussing doctrines with you, because they haven't bothered to learn them, or obtained a sure testimony of the Curch by the Holy Ghost. You may thrive on that, but the millstone around your neck will be fastened tighter and tighter as you offend these little ones as Christ called them. Jehovah of the old testament or Jesus Christ as we have come to know Him as in the new testament existed from before the world was created. Both apostles John ( Jn. 1:3) and Paul ( Hebr. 1:2) testified that He created the world upon which we live. The people of the old testament had the priesthood of God, and therefore also the authority to baptize. As we know, Lehi left Jerusalem about 600 BC. A prophet of God who had the priesthood. The old testament is full of prophesies about Christ and his mission. Likewise the Book of Mormon peoples had the priesthood of God a long time before His ministry on earth. They knew He would come and put their trust in Him. Just like we are now waiting for His second coming. The Book of Mormon is the word of God. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints is the true Church on the earth today. I bear you that testimony in the Name of Jesus Christ Amen.
Why do all LDS testimonies sound the same?
Amen Brother. I always hated being called Mormon because I’m not one. I wasn’t baptized in the waters of Mormon. It’s a nickname that others give to us out of hatred. I cried for joy when President Nelson said not to go by that name anymore & use the correct name. If someone really wants to know which people Christ blesses more, go around & ask people to share their testimonies how Christ blesses them. I share my experiences with family & friends who are nonmembers that belong to different Churches. Not once they have ever shared how Christ blesses them. That tells me they really don’t know Him. One person can preach all they want but they don’t really teach. It’s through the mouths of many witnesses that teach each other. I know it’s true too & I once was against the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. It wasn’t until through my trials that I really got to know Christ. Once I asked Him for forgiveness & promised to follow Him I been blessed beyond measure. It’s sad that others turn their hearts away once they have tasted the fruit. If it wasn’t good they wouldn’t have became a member in the first place. I pray for all to know Christ.
@@smileysun9212 My husband left LDSism and found the Truth in Orthodoxy.
The "church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints" God doesn't even exist. You church leaders stole Jesus's name - put on their false church and false books. The deception is clear.
@Smiley Sun
If you're worshipping God to receive blessings, you don't know the gospel at all..... 🙌