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This is just Jump In packs from Arena or re-themed Theme Packs is all.
THANK YOU! This is "[you] need to know" information. I appreciate the time you put into this video and the information provided..
The only reason I would buy this one above the first jump start to play with my kids is that the first set wasn’t translated in French. 😢
This review is a great example of why the Professor is such a great influence. Sure, he failed this product but at the same time reminded everyone about the original product and how good it was, and gave really good input to WoTC on how to handle this product for the future.
Totally agree, though wotc already knew how bad this would compare to the original when producing it of course, but this way it's easier money. I'm curious to see if they will make the next any better, or just the same as this one, when it turns out to be profitable.
@@JV-jz6sj It's marketing 101 to make the original (game, tv show, widget) really great to generate buzz and build up the concept, and then cheap out on every successive iteration once people have already been convinced they like it. People will then twist themselves into pretzels to convince themselves that they didn't get swindled.
@@benvoliothefirst I think the word you mean is "greed". Perhaps marketing has come to this for many (big) companies, but it shouldn't, its just sad.
@@mindlightwave of course they care, they won't do anything about it
Wizards: You're right, Professor. It SHOULD be divisible by four. We'll just remove those last two pesky packs from the box, but we'll keep the price conveniently the same!
Monkey's paw curls....
But now we need new packaging, to design that we actually have to increase the cost by $.50 to offset the lost packaging design, we will reevaluate the price increase in the near future.
“Current packaging dimensions don’t allow for removing 2 packs, we will have to reduce it by 6…”
It's 16+2, so a 4 player tournament with two packs as the prize for the winner
My immediate thought when he wished that the box was divisible by four
This hurt to watch. Original Jumpstart was amazing, and the idea of adding new Jumpstart themes each Standard set was so exciting. A shame the execution is so limited in scope that it effectively becomes pointless.
I agree the themes could've been more interesting. But would you prefer Set Jumpstart to be Standard legal and only use cards from the set, or be more like the first Jumpstart with reprints outside the set?
@@willjackson5885 def the latter, but that mentality is more so directed in favor of experienced players. It's (probably) easier for new players to get a foot in the door if the first thing they have to deal with it confronting card legality in half a dozen formats because _some_ cards are legal in standard and some aren't, despite them coming from the _same_ set, in same box and pack.
Though I honestly don't know how much differentiating between formats affects the new player experience, this is just speculation
I think this has a lot to do with how WotC currently allocates their resources. Supplemental sets like this won't be R&D'ed as much as DMU itself.
@@sosukelele I think they could solve this by using different set symbols for the reprints than for the standard legal cards.
I think the original Jumpstart will age very well: just like Unglued/Unhinged, Conspiracy 1/2, Battlebond, Original Modern Masters, etc.
This is more of a money-grab by Hasbro during a great depression: pumping even harder just to get a single drop (of $) out (of the players dwindling wallet.
Remember the days when a draft box could potentially have not just above EV, but potentially 2-3x the value?
Pepperridge Farms even remembers when early commander decks had great value (2017 IMO being the last 'ha rah')
With how big of a part the Phyrexians played in dominaria's story, im shocked there wasnt a Phyrexian pack, or even more than just 5 different packs. This is jumpstart, not that game night set
Ironically, the last set that didn't have different factions that can be represented in the packs was Oath of the Gatewatch. Dominaria United is a cool set, but litteraly any other set that came in the years before would've made for a better environment
There were less than 30 phyrexian themed cards in DMU. Phyrexians had a ridiculously low footprint in the actual set
@@goldcreeper7376 Well then there's the room for reprints they should've given us.
Yeah they could have had a cool Phyrexian half-deck in this.
They have to save the good things for Dominaria Remastered
I'm glad you pointed out the number of boosters in the box being reduced to a number that doesn't align with the product's stated purpose. It's bothered me since the day they announced it and shows a complete lack of care for it.
4 player tournament, 2 as the prize. Neater than a 6 player tournament tbh
Its just like baldurs gate. Less packs = more profit man.... I agree as a huge jumpstart fan 4 packs per player......... Its in their own rules. Do 20 packs or even 16 if u wanna be cheap.
Hot dogs and buns
@@willjackson5885 are you saying that was what Wizards intended, or that this could be used for that? because Jumpstart being intended for new players seems to clash with the idea of this change being for easier tournament design
@@Idran Lol nobody knows Wotc's actual intentions. However it does play into the idea of Magic as a "board game". Buy a box, invite four friends to play some matches, winner gets the extra packs or give to the newest player...
Plus as more Jumpstart gets made, everyone could bring their own packs for a Chaos draft, so it'll be nice having some extra packs lying around.
Totally agreed on the concept of jumpstart. Disappointing to see that execution was a little lackluster.
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I would love to see Jumpstart sets based around old blocks. Seeing a guilds, tarkir, or time spiral based set would be great
Wow, that is a great idea!
I was very excited for the come back of Jumpstart, and frankly, after seeing your video i'm going to have a much harder time selling those at my LGS... ! I'll recommend it only for the newest of new players and that's it. Other than that, straight to Commander ! :)
Have to agree here! I LOVE OG Jumpstart! I have a box setup and Cubeamajigs series 2 on the way for my JS box. I’ve played it often at work and it’s always a blast to play. I was so stoked when they announced JS would be a regular occurrence with new sets, but this is a gods-forsaken disaster.
i reduced the LGS orders for next jumpstart to 1 box. i'm not going to do the same mistake twice.
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The original jumpstart was by far the BEST way to introduce new friends to the game. I too am VERY disappointed in Dominaria United Jumpstart and hope they don't make future iterations this poor again. Thanks for the info about OG jumpstart, it was widely unavailable for quite a while so I'm glad to see they've printed more!
For our family, we kept 25 original jumpstart decks in cubamajigs. We saw this not as a standalone set, but as a way to add some additional variance to our existing Jumpstart "cube".
Disappointed the exclusive rares aren't that flashy, but the themes are OK enough to mix in with original jumpstart. I hope this continues with some improvement for Brothers War Jumpstart and Jumpstart22.
I think the biggest thing holding this product down is the fact that they want all the cards in it to be Standard legal. I feel like to improve the experience, they could do what they've been doing for Set Boosters and put some unique "Commander Set" cards as the rare in the future, in addition to Standard rares. I just hope that Jumpstart 2022 offers a similar experience to the original Jumpstart, but that doesn't mean that the Standard Jumpstart packs can't offer that experience, either.
Even doing so they have so many inner themes they could of done. Build around the rares and mythics charging a box and having the same multiple rare is uncalled for and lazy
Wtf you talking about commander players get everything anyway
@@jamesgratz4771 yup, if the product doesn't have a reason for commander players to buy it, then it's not gonna sell nearly as well!
@@byrongehrig8429 bunch of meta sheep 🐑
@James Gratz My point isn't as much as to add more incentive for Commander players, it's that Set and Collector boosters have nonstandard cards in them under the set's Commander set tag. They could potentially add a Jumpstart set tag.
Thanks for all the product info you give! You answer all the questions I always have but don’t have the time to research myself. I’ve been thinking out buying some of these packs to get my kids into magic, so thank you!
Note that having "10 themes" but giving only 18 packs per box means 2 themes do not repeat. Not sure if that is random or how this works.
Also the blue rare in the blue "themes" is garbage. Draw for number of instant and sorceries in your gy for 6 mana. We are playing with 40 cards! Half the deck (probably) is not going to be spell based. Usually is a dead card in your hand.
Had they pitched this as a small expansion to the OG jumpstart, dropped 12 packs for $50, and marketed it as something to supplement the OG jumpstart and played with it, then this might have done well. As it stands, this is just a straight up disappointment.
12 for $50 is still a lot for what you get. That's >$4 per pack for buying by the box, compared to
Well it's going for like $55 a box right now as stores are dumping it.
This shouldn’t be released with each new set but quarterly every year. Just as you described, supplemental packs with a new theme. It shouldn’t be boxed like a booster box, but 1 of each theme packaged to be bought as an expansion pack.
Hey Prof & Community, In December we are supposed to be getting Jumpstart 2022 which is to be the successor to the OG jumpstart with 24 packs, 40 themes, and 1 anime art style card per pack. This info comes from the Amazon store listing. I figured this was worth sharing since wizards has yet to talk about it to my knowledge.
This would have been a great way to reprint older cards from the Weatherlight Saga to help flesh out the conflict in Dominaria United. At the very least the Invasion Cycle.
I'm building a JumpStart cube that I'm beyond excited about. I'm upping the complexity to keep experienced players' attention. It takes a lot of planning but I think it'll be a lot of fun.
Here's a thought if you haven't thunk it: colorless artifact/eldrazi half-decks using wastes and colorless utility lands.
@@EliyaSelhub sold! I'll add them to the list. Thanks!
I was actually so excited to be getting jumpstart again. Cracking packs alone was such a fun experience. I hope they change something, anything, just to capture even a small part of what made jumpstart fun.
These honestly sound more like the free welcome decks you would get at game stores
Prof, your ideas are Legendary! My return to magic was during Midnight Hunt and Crimson Vow and fell in love with Innistrad. Having a jumpstart set for both MH and CV including cards from the previous Innistrad sets would have tickled my fancy so much!
Many Magic the Gathering players are asking the question, why aren't these boosters compatible with the original Jumpstart boosters?
Aren't they compatible? You could take a booster box of the original Jumpstart and four of these Jumpstart packs and play with them together, couldn't you?
@@darksora763 you could but the OG jumpstart had the thriving lands which made mixing colors better.
The new ones have 2 rares not one.
@@Owesomasaurus Some of the old Jumpstart packs had two rares, didn't they? I know at least the planeswalker decks did.
Rare count aside, the original half-decks are quite well-made. I'm sure they could hold their own if mixed with these, if you really want to.
Prof’s best review of a product in a while. Very clear reasoning, passionate, and great comparisons to other products. Spot on.
Feels like they slapped the Jumpstart name on it because enfranchised players avoid theme boosters like the plague.
The outgoing sponsorship message was wonderful. I laughed out loud. A+
Crazy that the boxes have 18 packs when there's only 10 total variations, you're guaranteed to get exact duplicates. I got a box of original jumpstart and sure I had a few duplicate themes, but there were variations within each theme so they were all unique.
Thanks for having a look at this. Have a jumpstart style cube so was thinking about this, however will save it for jumpstart 2022/3
God I live for Original Jumpstart. Arena events with them are some of the most fun I have on Arena outside of Gladiator.
I bought the last Dominaria collector booster hanging on the store shelf today. I pulled a foil showcase art Sheoldred. I was so excited that I immediately started building a deck around her and failed to realize that behind her in the pack was a second Sheoldred in phyrexian treatment. Best pack of my life today. Thanks, Dominaria!
Thanks for the heads up, Prof. I would have picked this up thinking it was like the original Jumpstart. I can probably build as good of an experience from draft chaff.
Just gotta say, I really liked the way you spun the beginning of the ad read for Keeps. I have friends who are balding and they hate when ads make them feel bad for losing hair. You were really nice about it.
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Just finished watching, grading these as D's is way way being too generous. Its like WOTC copy and submit their previous assignment and slapping a new title hoping it pass muster.... Sigh. Previous one is still the best 😌
I agree, this product is definitely an F on my scale. I bought a TON of original jumpstart and was suckered into buying a box of this because of the great experience I had with the original. Never again though, just lazy theme boosters trying to take advantage of a popular product name.
Copy & pasting the previous Jump Start would've been better than what we got. It's more like they just handed in a page with placeholder text, but gave it the same title as the previous, more successful assignment.
I actually went and bought a box of original Jumpstart after watching this. I really appreciated how it wasn't just "this product is bad". The explanation of why it was bad and what made its predecessor great was enlightening, and kept the overall video from being down. It was "here's how WotC could fix it, and here's what you can do in the meantime instead". Great video!
The problem is that this new version is going to bomb and they will shortly discontinue it just like they’ve done with plenty of other product lines.
I'm hopeful that the jumpstart coming out at the end of the year will keep it from being discontinued. Given its a full one, I'm hoping R and D gives it what its worth. If not tho, it doesnt look good
@@theuniversejumper which one is that? The brothers war one?
@@gordonross3270 It's called Jumpstart 2022. Why it's not named 2023 is beyond me.
Sooooo glad I took the time to put my 2 original Jumpstart booster boxes in cubeamagigs and bought a varying case for them all. I can and do 'jumpstart' whenever we want!
New name idea. “Theme-Start”. They’re fantastic for new players since the colors hold true to their designs
"Theme-Booster-Start"
Prof, I don’t even play MTG but I love your channel. I just wanted to thank you for your sponsor ad read. It really made my day. Thanks, and cheers to you. -Ted
I’ll always presume malice where incompetence could do when it comes to a corporate action.
Leave two packs and they have to go buy 2 more packs to play or they’ll buy 2 boxes instead of one to have them ready for game nights.
Would be interesting to see a Shuffle Up with old jumpstarts or even 1 old and one new.
Have an unopened box of original jumpstart in my closet for drafting with friends over time in the future, and then cultivating each into a large pool of jumpstart decks organized such that we can just randomly pick from the pool and play. So sad to see what was one of Wizard's most home-run products morph into such a disappointment.
Thanks, as always Prof, for being a voice for the players.
Moving forward I’d like to see these as less set or subset and more expansion to the Jumpstart line. Just cut the box to ten boosters at lower price Spice up the variety the next time and introduce it with reprints of the original or reworked jumpstart. Have the rule be one regular jumpstart and one expansion jumpstart. Mix and match like intended and let the people have fun without spending a fortune on sealed limited fun.
They won't do this. they would have to keep the original jumpstart in print forever if they did and that's something they never do with a product
A friend got me into mtg through a jumpstart, from the old jumpstart packs. We recently opened our dominaria packs before watching a movie in the cinema, and the movie really had to pump up our mood again.
If they would wait until the end of the year then do a mix of all of the sets of that year as a sort of jumpstart tour of the year that might be more interesting.
I love original Jumpstart so much I bought 6 boxes to play over the course of a long time. It's just so fun.
one thing im amazed was that they didnt do legendary packs like they did with the old jumpstart packs. imagine getting a jumpstart pack themed around lili of the veil? such a shame as a product
My dad and I loved playing Jumpstart so much we built a cube for it and have enjoyed playing it together and with friends. Bought two boxes of this with high hopes and I don't think we will be adding it to the cube but instead will just make our own.
_"I don't think they did it on purpose, I just don't think they were thinking!"_
But...if you run out of packs in a single box to play as intended, you have to buy a 2nd box. Seems pretty straightforward from a marketing/money standpoint. Even if it's slimy.
Wizard's "new" modus operandi.
The pack flip reshoot earned a like from me. Love your content, never stop please!
No. Nothing in it is worth value but can be fun. It is worth noting that this product is replacing theme boosters. For fun time its ok. Buy 2 packs and play but not worth buying a box for.
Your intro jingle is really satisfying.
I almost had a mini heart attack when you said the sponsor was a subscription and I instantly thought of the Monthly Magic Box scam lol
This is video is the reason why I watch your channel. As a somewhat season vet of MTG I love your takes on these products. Good video prof.
I think this is the sort of product that will improve as we get more of them per set. Easier to take like a Dominaria United and mix it with, say, Phyrexia: All Will Be One. Right now it looks middling as a result, but I'll be happy to pick up a mix-and-match set of packs this time next year at my LGS and shuffle them together and play with friends before an event.
It is still sadly unfortunate that these are such a vast downgrade from the last Jumpstart release, though. I hope these Standard ones improve as time goes on.
I bought V1 jumpstart on the strength of your description of it - seemed like a great resource to have on hand for parties and such. When I saw how they changed the viability of the product I knew I was going to be avoiding. I'll be very wary of the next Jumpstart product and likely won't buy any unless it passes the smell test.
I really appreciate this. I loved original jumpstart, and I hadn't heard much about dominaria jumpstart, so I could have been easily tricked into buying this. Thank you.
Does this get an F? You know... For Freaking waste of money and resources.
I reserve F for only the absolute worst of the worst of the worst.
I agree to every single word said in this video (other than the sponsored part bc I skipped it). I bought the first Jumpstart and since the announcement of this product, I have been a lot excited for its release. But, it's what WOTC do best, gets us excited and then go testing, trying to figure out the line where they can do less for more. If they knew the first was a success, why change? You can't say they tried to make anything better with this product. There is nothing comparable between them, but their name.
I'm so glad you mentioned the original set is still widely available. As someone who started ages ago and (relatively) recently got back into Magic super casually I like just pick up and play things. See there's two more coming for pre-orders so hopefully those are less bad.
I didn't get a chance to play the original but loved the experience of the DMU Jumpstart - 8 of us at the LGS playing decks we never would have otherwise. I will say I'm definitely biased as I was lucky enough to have pulled Jaya from one of the only two jumpstart boosters I've ever opened!
Hey Prof hope you have a good rest of your day!
I was looking forward to this, my wife and our circle of mtg playing friends had great mileage with original jumpstart, not to mention getting some surprisingly good value from them, also it's only 6 weeks or so since Rosewaters State of design article where he specifically addresses poor communication with players over what sets are and contain.
Great content as always. Dropping some engagement after your fb post about the video issues.
Couldn't agree more, this was my first experience of JumpStart, it almost put me off, but I remembered hearing how good the original ones were.
I will give the original ones a go.
4:02 professor, loving the Frank Zappa reference hehe
Thank you for making content like this. Me and my girlfriend love having a box of jumpstart laying around to pull out from time to time for a game or two.
Now I know what not to by
I hope Cynthia Williams watches this video and then binge watches your entire video archive. Thank you for the thoughtful content Tolarian!
Original Jumpstart was so good I bought 2 boxes at marked up prices, and I still think it was amazing
A very fair and authentic criticism. Thank you so much as always Prof!
Fired it up and played it in the background after your facebook message, prof.
I do like the foil Seb Lands and stained glass lands in these, though I could just buy them as singles...
I bought a box because a friend recommended jumpstart and I agree with all your points.
I would add that as a new player it is still fun to play. And I have kept them separate so I can till pick two at random and play.
Unashamedly one of my favorite series on this channel, just to get some perspective when new stuff comes out. Show me the (spending of) money!
You are so right, Professor! The deep, rich, near boundless history of Dominaria should have sparked multiple Jumpstart themes. Based on your description, I feel Dominaria Themestart is a half-notch above Innistrad Double Feature. Neither feel like care/love/effort was put into them!
Professor, your honest and genuine analyses of upcoming Magic: The Gathering products are one of the things that keep bringing me back to this channel, and I wish Wizards of the Coast would entertain some of your ideas for product improvement or, at the very least, acknowledge your pleas regarding the faults and pitfalls of a CCG you clearly and enthusiastically love dearly. Your product reviews have warned and prevented me from investing in many MTG products, and I invite everyone who has been affected by your reviews to speak up. Wizards of the Coast needs to know, repeatedly and often, the quality of their products is not holding up to scrutiny and will not be purchased by a large number of the player base; the larger the number heard by them, the more likely we will see improvement.
In short, thank you again for taking the time and financial burden to review products such as these. I know it has save me a great deal of sunken cost and disappointment, and I am a happier member of the hobby as a result.
Thanks prof for the info and always thinking in the ones that fue to excess of products, just can Buy a handful of products throught the year
Played a quick game last week to give the new set a try and had fun but I can see how that experience will only happen a few times before duplication gets in the way of fun. Thanks for the video!
I was actually pricing these and the original out on my local game store's online storefront the other day and noticed the 18 vs 24 packs thing... seems like I'm better off getting the original... Glad I watched this Video! Thanks for the warning Prof!
Thank you for this review. The original Jumpstart was one of my favorite ways to play Magic, and it's a colossal disappointment that I won't get to redo that experience with these. :( I appreciate the heads up!
I completely agree. A friend and I went to mox and were really excited to try this product. It was so disappointing to my friend when they opened a ready to charge and ready to attack and we noticed that the packs were exactly the same. I concur with this review I wouldn’t want to purchase this product after the disappointing play. Thankfully we only purchased 4 packs.
The professor should make the same he did with the deck box. Just imagine, tolarian academy jumpstart, and all with the best merfolk!
That's what coolstuffinc has been doing since OG jumpstart came out. There is no actual product, but there are a massive number of created jumpstart decks on the site.
@@leress but are all of them merfolf themed? I think not!
Thank you. I have many of the Jumpstart packs sleeved in DragonShield cube booster cases. I bring it with me often as a great way to play. Including making a few new ones. Disappointed in this. Thank you for the review.
This breakdown is excellent Prof - thank you!
Thanks for the heads up Prof. I really do hope they improve on this in the future.
"Shuffle up and play....no relation" made me audibly giggle. Good one, prof!
Man, professor, you are so persuasive you almost made me wanna go try out Keeps even though I have long hair and am not balding or thinning yet 🤣
Great review, thanks for being so thorough and honest.
Great for teaching newbies, not so good for entrenched players. I keep a Jumpstart cube and only added the Green booster variant since it is Domain and not a mechanic already present in the cube.
Fingers crossed for the actual Jumpstart 2022 being more like its forebear with cool reprints and interesting mechanics
I am an experienced MTG player who was lucky to have a friend wanting to start playing Magic this month. Jumpstart seemed the perfect place to learn for him, so I picked up 4 boosters and tried to play. Imagine the disappointment a new player gets when he opens two packs that are... identical. My friend opened two "blue theme" boosters.
Yeah I have my jumpstart box sleeved up in cube shells and it's great for teaching new players
Thanks for the review as always. My brother and I both picked up a box of these to play against each other with the expectation this was going to be inline with past Jumpstart products....its not. I feel cheated by this product given how great the previous Jumpstart was.
Honestly I was really excited when I heard about Dominaria Jumpstart but after seeing the decklist of the packs and realizing it's all the same 5 themes I decided to make my own Jumpstart. I went back to a set I loved Kaldheim and created 10 unique Jumpstart packs that play very well and have some nice synergies across packs. So if I can do that within 1 set you'd think Wizards could manage at least 10 unique themes. They barley even scratched the surface of the set.
thanks for this review I loved the og jumpstart and was looking forward to this set.
thanks for the review. glad i looked before buying. i found $55 boxes for Dominaria Jumpstart and after reading this i dont think even that is worth it, and i'm passing. (ok, maybe i'll get ONE box for a rainy day). The OG jumpstart was incredible and i have a case in the attic for future games!
They need to just make a set agnostic annual jumpstart that is limited-style and then for each set make a commander/brawl style jumpstart, that way there can be a “controlled” way to pull commander cards in a semi regular fashion as well as keep it all fresh. The booster pack content planning would have to have a bit more thought put into it but I think it would help vary the product up, be a better excuse for “color themes”, and allow for more variety with less work.
For example, you take 3 booster packs, each containing 30 cards, 20 of which are one color that include the appropriate amount of land, as well as 10 cards that are a hodgepodge of dual lands, dual and three color cards, commanders, etc etc. This allows for new players to get their feet wet doing very controlled deck building in maybe the most daunting format to build decks in: commander/brawl. Once you have your core 60 cards, substitute in any of the multicolored cards that you want that fit the color profile and choose a commander. Boom, you’re playing the first logical game of brawl on the planet.
I bought 8 packs for my play group of four. We're gonna play on Monday and I'm racking my brain as to how to make sure we'll actually have _fun._
Luckily I still have 4 packs of original JumpStart left. And all the packs we've opened in previous sessions in cube shells. Those should help.
Heck, I even have a few silver border "jumpstarts" I made from the Unsanctioned decks. Those are amazingly cheap, if you buy them without the lands.
Thanks Prof, always appreciate your insightful reviews ❤
OMG THAT SHUFFLE TECHNIQUE!!
You're killing me! 😭
Well I can tell your a dad. Lol that part at the end "I'm not Mad, I'm disappointed" I felt that in my soul.
Dominaria United has 10 common dual lands. There is also lot of Uncommon multicolored Legends to support Dual Color themes.. They could do these packs/decks with this in mind and product will be way better (10 themes, each with two options of Rares you can open.. 20 different possible packs). Or just add more reprints from older sets with Dominaria United Commander set symbol and they can have more bling without more work.
Thank you for this review. I had no information about this product until watching this. If I do buy it, it will be VERY limited. I may choose to add it to my original Jumpstart pack collection, and that's only if they work with those cards.