Correctional Officer Reveals What It’s Like To Work In New York State Prisons | Steve Purcell
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
- Former Federal Inmate Ian Bick interviews former C.O Steve Purcell to find out what it was like to work inside New York State Prisons.
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I did 27 years in NY. I’m a pretty good judge of character. I believe Steve Purcell is genuinely a good man despite taking on a job that turns good men bad.
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Which is why his dad was against it. He knew
Man this episode was way more interesting than I originally thought it would be, great work man!
Thanks man!
I agree, and I’ve never heard from a correctional officer before. Very cool choice for a video.
This man (Correctional Officer) has an awesome speaking voice.
I could listen to his voice all day.
This guy seemed like a decent dude tbh
He is!
Worked with him for a few years! stand up dude and his dad was one of the cos that I looked up to! They all ran H block solid.
Agreed
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This guy reminds me of my dad in how he carried himself as a CO. He retired after 27 years and never got into a single fight with an inmate. He has seen other COs get into fights and he had to respond, but he said that he was more worried about his coworkers getting him into some shit.
What if u weren’t tbh
Steve Purcell! You're the real deal, man. Big ups for for style!
You put a lot of C.Os to shame.
Hey man I appreciate your content it inspires me. I grew up in the foster care system in Texas and didn't really have a support system when I aged out. Long story short I ended up catching a gun charge and doing 2 years in the feds. I've changed my life in the year since I've been out I got my associates degree and started university. I found my passion in boxing and I've got a 2-1 amateur record. I've built an amazing support system and I have great friends. Anyway if you read through this I just wanted to let you know your message is inspiring keep it up
The purpose of calling inmates by their last name is done to maintain a professional distance between the officers and inmates. Being on a first name basis with someone creates comfort and familiarity. Being too close to an inmate on a personal level could result in the officer being taken advantage of or put in a compromising position by the inmate. If an officer becomes too close to an inmate, it makes it more difficult for the officers to enforce the rules and give directives to that inmate, and could cause a breakdown in discipline.
Somewhat Same concept in the military, if you’re cool with a leader you can be on a first name basis out side of work, and some you don’t really have to address their rank at work unless you f up, but no first name at work to someone above you lol
That names sense. I know when I was working some jobs and it was hard to be chilled with someone who let things slide then go full force at you.
Eventhougth this guy left the Job and no obtaining his pention with honor, i honestly hava respect for him. Didn't do any criminal stuff while he was on the Job, and left with his head up and strong. All respect for you Steve.
I work as a CO currently, it’s dodgey work. It’s sorta like coming to work with a bunch of toddlers who have a chance to nearly die, kill you, or get mad at you for doing your job. There are pretentious CO’s for sure, and those ones are generally the ones who end up becoming “targets” but as long as you remain respectful, serious and understand policy. It’s not hard, it can be hard if you use the mindset of not caring though.
treat them like humans and not trash, give them a little slack and youll be respected. its not hard to treat someone who fked up like a human
@@zackneskov2006 Exactly, everyone fucks up and most of them learned due to where they grew up. Just because we’re in a uniform doesn’t make us better than them either.
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Im a correctional officer here in Florida. I can relate to alot of what he says. Great interview.
Just found your channel about 3 weeks ago definitely subscribed!!! Love your interviews you ask detailed questions you don’t skip around
Thanks so much!! We put a lot of thought into the questions
I was a CO for 25 years. Good pay, retirement, time off. The last 5 years waiting to retire sucked tho.
I eagerly wait for new episodes to drop every week I get so excited everytime I see one and learn more and more. Most importantly not to judge people before we hear their stories and this is an amazing eye opening show. Keep it up Ian
I have learned so much thanks to Ian and his podcast and the same idea - it's so easy to sit and condemn everyone in jail as deserving it. I take the view now that I have no problem with amenities in jail - the punishment is deprivation of freedom, not being brutalized in an unfit environment. Freedom is precious.
This was an absolutely amazing interview. Its great to see things from a very different perspective. This seems like a pretty solid dude who was actually trying to help those who were in. Would love to see more like this!
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Great interview. This guy seems straight up. Probably respected by inmates.
Totally one of my favorite channels.
Love your content brotha. You do great work. Your really good at interviewing and letting people talk, and not cutting them off every 5 secs like some podcast interviewers do lol
Thank you so so much🙏
so excited for this epsiode. its the complete other side from what we';ve seen on the podcast
Man I’m a C.O. In Indiana and I would’ve thought it was cool to be interviewed by you man! Love the episodes!
"nobody's ass has a natural glimmer" 😂😂😂 I'm dying
I would be proud to work next to him! He has a great head on his shoulders. Nothing I hate more than working with a lazy officer. Feel free to apply where I work and shape up our guys 😂
For real, thanks for sharing what’s real in what we do. Much love!
Appreciate it !!!
I work super early in the morning and listening to your podcasts always gets me through the grind.
Thanks for listening
Great interview. You never disappoint Ian
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Been following you for a while on other platforms. This is the 1st time I've watched a whole interview. Definitely going to enjoy these while doing prep at the restaurant. I've been out 4 years myself. Since then I've turned my life around for the better.
Thanks did the support man. Glad to hear
I could listen to you two talk for hours
I was an inmate in NYDOCCS for a handful of years or a little more , and this guys story is pretty on point with how it goes on both sides of the fence. But what he didn’t touch on is the corruption. It’s way more than what he describes. The amount of officer on inmate assaults is astronomical, and I’m not talking about an inmate just stabbed someone and they got caught up and then fought with the co’s. Just blatant assaults, where the co will nitpick you with the classic put your hands on the wall ajd search you and tell you to your face while you’re on that wall, “if you come off that wall or even flinch in any way you’re outta here” and they will proceed to pound your ribs to jello and if you happen to come off that wall out of pain or slip or anything they can twist to you lunging at them or attempting to them they’re really smashing you and breaking you up. Also they will take you out of the dorm after a fight say or any altercation where you may have to go To the infirmary, or even to the sergeants office , and put you in the Rover vans that they drive up and down the compound to deliver officers or respond to red dots, and what they do is while you’re handcuffed in the back of the van there’s multiple co’s in that van with you and they’re kicking the life out of you while doing a few laps around the compound and then finally will take you to the infirmary and say all the injuries are from the altercation. Also when they run yard , they have certain specific co’s that are known for being the ones to jump out on you and put you on the wall or also the same CO’s will be in the line of about 10-20 officers that you have to walk by to get into the yard and they’re just picking people at random and putting you on the wall and sale scenario as I said before if you come off that wall or flinch you’re outta there. And these officers will grab your balls and dock and run the fingers up through your ass cheeks and talk wicked to you then when you react they finish you and when they take out of there you’re either going in that van or in the gym where no one is or in sergeants office or any multitude of places where there’s no cameras or eyes. It’s a sick existence. Seen many CO’s get smashed out, cut, stabbed, etc for being the type to fuck with people like I’m talking about, but that far overshadowed by the times that they get sets with it. It happens every single day many times a day for days, weeks, months, and years. And yeah you can write your grievances and call home and write Albany and all of that but nothing will come from it. Ever. I was sexually harassed and assaulted(attempted) by my boss who is a co while incarcerated, three weeks before going home after three years and he knew that and used it against me. When I applied for a change of job and got moved I didn’t report it but I told my other co boss whom I had worked for prior and now went back to work for again and he knew that co and told me that I wasn’t the first victim. Before I could tell anybody what happened the co who harassed and assaulted me made a report of it confidentially as it were me with a kite dropped anonymously. So then all the sudden I’m getting interviewed by OSI who oversee co conduct about it and they knew specifically what he said to me and everything so I knew it had to be only him. So then by him doing that it made it seem and look like I was the one accusing him, ajd that’s when he and his buddies attempted to get my parole revoked by getting me called for random urinalysis for about a week straight. If I came up dirty then my parole would be revoked, and I was informed one of my tests came back positive. Which I knew I wasn’t but this is the power they have, and after that I was confronted by a co who was sent by the co who harassed and assaulted me and told me if I don’t press the issue and drop it then the urine will go away , if not who knows what may happen. Well I’m the end I did drop it bc I didn’t even report it to begin with and by that time I had just over a week until my release and I just wanted out of the alternate reality that is nysdoccs. What that co did to me was basically groom me. So I was medium security but I got classified to work outside clearance jobs which means I could work the visiting room, the admin building where the brass offices were and a recycling plant and automotive shop as well. I left the recycling plant which was highest paying job in whole jail, to go to work in admin building with a friend, so I was doing that for a couple Kim tha and the main officer who was our boss was the one who assaulted me. Basically we which is myself , my friend, and another inmate worked there three times a day and with the officer. Some days on the weekends I would be just by myself. So we would all talk shit to one another and bullshit and say stupid gay jokes and just being guys in general, the co included because it was a real relaxed laid back type of thing. And the officer was real cool too. Well too cool I later found out. When I would go work by myself on the weekends he would make little jokes or comments that I never ever ever took or thought of as awkward or gay or grooming or anything nefarious. But that whole time he’s saying these jokes and comments he’s feeling me out, and I guess I gave the wrong impression bc one day on a Sunday he finally came at me. It was a Sunday there’s no admin in the building, with it being the weekend and especially Sunday all the brass are just about gone and all the civilians office clerks etc aren’t at work, just him and I with noone around. Well I get to work and we got patted down coming into work and when leaving. When I got there he made a comment about how good of a day it was going to be bc it was nice outside, and we had to put to the visiting room reception trailer where visitors sat and waited to be called in and so there’s all kinds of snacks and drinks left over that he would let us and me eat and drink and take back and he would eat some shit even and it allowed us to be outside white abit outside of the whole facility as well , being outside clearance and all. Well we get into the visit reception and I’m getting garbages and cleaning and so we are done and go out to put garbage in the big main trash cans and when I’m throwing bags in he says boy you’re strong aren’t you boy, and for the first time right there it all just dawned on me. All the months of comments and jokes and everything just flashed through my mind and my stomach turned. Because now I’m realizing what it really is and where this is going, and the fact that I’m days away from being released and that if I have to defend myself I am going to have to ajd then I’m not going home and I’m getting more time and my son who’s 3 isn’t going to be in my arms in a couple weeks, I’m. It going to get to start my life over. I’ll be half killed, maybe even killed by cos in the process for assaulting him, regardless of what he had did. Anyway I just laugh it off , but it was just his tone this time that made it known. He was coming on to me. So the jobs done and I go to get patted out, aka pat down to leave. While in the process of that he proceeds to take both hands and run them from my ankle all the way up to my balls and says boy your built like a bull, and in more ways than one. Right there it’s just me and him and where I had thought before this and told myself not to react I couldn’t not react now, because I was built like a fucking bill at the time. I was 240 pound solid worked out twice a day, and I could’ve crumpled this old man up like a piece of paper or soda can and threw him away without effort. Anyway I come off the wall and spin around and get nose to nose with the pos and told him if he ever so much as looked at me again I’d do what I have to do. Which could be many things. And I said I quit right there. And he said well I’ll have to write you up and you’ll lose your parole. Well I didn’t quite but Monday morning I had seen my old boss at the recycling plant and told him point blank what happened, and he got me outta there that day because he knew me and my story and that I had really worked at changing and needed to go home. After that I never seen him again but one time and he never looked at me but he did try and get me fucked up and kept in prison like I said prior to all this. This is just a micro fraction of the atrocities that take place in NYSDOCCS. At the facility I was in which was MARCY CORRECTIONAL FACILITY, there were two confirmed homocides by co’s on inmates. One of them they had went as far as biting the inmate in the prisons graveyard without notifying the family or anything . And the way that this all was discovered as being a murderer was that the family of the inmate hadn’t heard from their loved one in a while and so they used the nysdoccs inmate lookup website where you view inmates stays and location in real time, and it said DECEASED under their child’s name. The family knew nothing about his death! So the outside police were involved and they exhumed the inmates body and it was determined he was a suicide but all of us inmates know without a doubt that a certain co strangled him with the sheet. There was officers arrested but nothing happened, and the family had just recently won a 1.5 million dollar lawsuit. I could go on for days or weeks with stories of horrible things.
Dude I did 27 years in NY and I can tell every word your saying is true.
This man has some very interesting information. I find your channel very interesting. You need to discuss the gold mine for inmates that they don’t know is there and that is the topic of healthcare. I am a 21 yr vet if my Dept started as an officer and now let’s say I work for our central office. There are tons of things/tools that inmates could use in the correctional healthcare system to get better care and what they need.
Best advice at the end. Reach out for help if you need it. Realistically as someone who has done a number of years and done around 12 13 different HMPs in my 20s and early 30s as a 40 year old man although working now and sober I’m still very much institutionalised.
You're on the right path brother, it takes great strength to make those changes. God bless you going forward 🙏
This is really interesting and he is so real and great questions u gave him and answers
He says where can you go and pay 20$ to see a doctor. i loaded trucks part time at UPS and received free insurance. when i say free i mean everything free. no co pay . nothing taken out of your check. The state should pay for C 'O s insurance no matter what.
As a NYS employee myself. $20 copay is a small sacrifice for our NYS Retirement. IYKYK
I read in the comments how your pod cast is teaching people to not be so quick to judge before hearing someone's story if they are willing to tell it.. Some people once you have found out what they faced growing up and throughout their life you can't help but wonder if they ever had a chance to end up any where else. It's a sad but true realization. Yes some of these people have done some not so good things but once you hear what lead up to it or actually why the events took place you can see how easily it might be to find yourself in a situation like that at any given time. Some people are just bad people that mean to hurt others and enjoy the fact that their doing it, others are not and I'm glad that we are learning more on these issues since we have access to the internet
Agreed!
This was a great interview. Very awesome to hear from a former corrections officer. We always wonder how it actually is inside and this was awesome to hear the other side we don't get to see.
Thanks man
Good interview! Excellent humanity by this young man.
Thank you!
So few resources available to those coming out of prison. Excellent show. Ian.
Dang Ian! This is great. So many in depth questions. Amazing back and forth conversation and the dynamic is amazing between a CO and former inmate.
Thanks so much!!
I am a success story of change from a very misguided past. Been to jail and prison from 13 to 34 and to be honest more co’s than not operate just like this guy. Respect and understanding!
super insightful. great interview learned alot. co is a good dude. encouraging to hear standup co’s in the system
co was correct about mental health facilities closures. that happened across the nation. they said its about fairness and keeping people integrated in society. but there is no services. think it was about money. my father is a social worker and said the same thing as co. its impossible to find people help/solutions.
Dude I am addicted to this channel! Quality content my man!
Thanks so much man!
I’m going on 18 years in the New York State Department of corrections started in 2007. This job changes you as a human being changes your brain chemistry. I’ve found that nobody can really understand this unless they’ve done it, but this is a very interesting episode.
He is the type of guy ypu would want to have as a po or co... soild and real
I used to be a CO. Every word is a million percent true and I worked in florida.
excellent interview! very informative and honest!! good job guys!!
Thank you so much!!
As a Correctional Officer from CT i support your channel Ian
I was thinking of applying for CT but I heard that the state doesn’t care about COs
I don't know how I ended up here, but this is great! Your channel is going to explode!
Thank you sir!
Awesome content def watching this later went ahead and 👍 and left a comment for the algorithm
Thank you sir
@Ian Bick doing the same! Great content man
Good interview, be good to hear from
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Just subbed to your channel really enjoying your content makes my work day go by faster and easier
Pedos should get life, like the one they ruined.
Current c/o here. I would love to Interview with you.
First time watcher. I love the format and the interview questions.
Thank you!!
❤much love & respect💯😘
Most underrated podcast 100%
This guy reminds me of my dad. He was a CO for 27 years and went about things the same way this guy did. His most infamous story was about a CO who got knocked out cold over a hot dog bun.
Respect for interviewing the other side
Stories are great
This was a GREAT interview!!!!! Can't wait to see what awesome content you bring us in the future 😊
My perception of this guy by the title has definitely changed respect to you own and this brother brilliant podcast keep them coming .. big fan from London south east 💯🔥🔥
Another great interview
I'd love to have you on my podcast Ian! You always have great episodes! Keep up the great work, and Give the Greezyknuckles Podcast a listen 🤘
Great interview Ian. Appreciate the insight on both sides here.
Great interview I enjoyed all the info shared to a world I know nothing about.
Brother unto brother, til death do us part, until we meet again in Valhalla, my loyalty my honor.
Another banger! Keep the great interviews coming
I’m always surprised anybody would desire to be a CO. Just seems like a crummy job honestly. But of course to each their own but for me it would never be an appealing profession to have. Gotta have some respect for people who willingly choose to do it and don’t abuse the power entrusted to them.
80 percent of what this guy says is spot on. The rest B.S.
Great choice of your guest, Ian. Great to see a different angle of a CO's perspective and also great information noted in here.. so many times have I thought how fucked a bad co would start shit and a co I was cool with would have their back and then I'd hold a grudge but I guess I didn't step back from my view to see it from theirs.. and I guess they can't show any weakness in their system because we will find a way to exploit that and puts them at greater risk. Fr, great choice. I love your content man
I love your content, being to prison myself in ohio i love watching all your shit, keep up the great work
"Went to the academy...6 weeks" 😳
That’s NYS for you
48:50 was an awesome question dude.
Very interesting interview. This cop seems alright. Love the channel bro👍
YEAH MY BOY STEVEN
Very insightful
Says on LinkedIn he's still an active officer...wild they let him on here...best interview yet
I agree Great interview but are you sure you have the right guy? Remember his dad may still work that prison. Just a thought.
First blood. Excited for this one ! Grabbing my pop corn out the mic now
Let me know what you think!
This guy got a raw deal going state. I went county/city. They paid us in the academy. It was pretty much like a 9-5 job. Also, while I didn't know what my assignment was going to be, I knew exactly what facility I was going to be working at.
From this, I'm basically saying, if you want to be a CO, don't go state and go country/city and ONLY with union representation.
The difference between me and them was They got caught and I didn't but yes I was a good counselor I was a good officer. You literally told on yourself
My boy Steve💪🏿
Worse thing u saw happen to CO was “they had to take a bunch of pills and got nauseous for couple days” wtf ?
because they were exposed to unknown pathogens while extracting a crazy, feces and blood covered inmate
Great Convo
Great interview thank you gentlemen
Thanks man
Awesome interview
This dude seems straight up, the cop you interviewed couldn’t (wouldn’t ) answer a bunch of the easiest questions “oh we have to come back to that one cause I don’t know” he was hiding shit. That cop was a DBag the ring camera videos took away all his credibility. This dude has integrity
This guy seemed exceptionally honest, you should've jumped in with more direction and questions I think, at some moments when you do interject, it seems edited though, so perhaps you had a way longer conversation
Great Interview Steve! You definitely gave us an in-depth view of what C.O’s have to deal with. My stepdad was a C.O and he didn’t talk a lot about work - now I know why. Thanks for being so honest.
It's funny listening to his experiences with training and placement versus what I went through when I was a CO in Virginia.
You got to pick your own prison that you wanted to work at and you had about 3 weeks of physical conditioning and classroom instruction before they sent you to the academy. It was somewhat structured like the military, kind of. Our instructors were captains in the DoC but they were nothing like military DIs. They never screamed at us or anything like that. The training was not hard at all. It was 5 weeks of physical fitness, classroom instruction, combatives, and range time. The doc is critically low on officers all the time so there was no attempts to weed people out. They were taking people from every walk of life. As long as you didn't have a criminal record and you had a pulse, you got a job. I started with 36 people in my training class and 3 35 of them graduated, one of them had to go on medical leave after getting into a motorcycle accident.
People had cheated on some of the tests and were caught, but they only got a disciplinary write-up and had to take a 4-Hour ethics seminar over the weekend.
Thanks!
I liked when he said when the inmate are cuffed up it’s over when I was 16 I was shackled waiting on m line to get my fingerprints done and I accidentally stepped off the red line at six County sheriffs kick the shit out of me
Just discovered Ur channel it's so good!!
Thank you!!
Cool listen
This co probaly holds inmates pockets
This shows you how evil the system is.
Lmao my next door neighbor is a cop and he has the same name as this guy 😂😂
Corporate Mentality ruins a lot of company’s and businesses it’s a real shame.
Tier 6 is a even worse enticer for the job
Good podcast👍
Dope content
What if the inmate has two first names ?
I notice in this episode you didn't ask about the interviewee's childhood, even though we found out his dad was a C.O. and sought to emulate his dad.
Steve's comments about the pencil-pushers in Albany hit home for a bureaucrat like me as well. I'm a civilian working for the Army and so many times what seems reasonable to us in HQ might not in "the field." Must remind myself and my team not to be come removed from where our rubber meets reality's road.
I did like the respectful discussion and the insights developed.
You're going to need time stamps if you want this to grow to the next level.
added some!
@@ianbickCT Awesome job!