How can you change someone's mind? (hint: facts aren't always enough) - Hugo Mercier
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Why do arguments change people’s minds in some cases and backfire in others? Hugo Mercier explains how arguments are more convincing when they rest on a good knowledge of the audience, taking into account what the audience believes, who they trust, and what they value.
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TED-Ed can you heart me again
Can you add Turkish subtitles please? 😊
TED-Ed did the producer are trying to change my mind? lol. i'm aware in the last minute
TED-Ed yeah but what do you do when the person doesn’t listen to logic or studies and made there opinions on things there family said to do and there own experience instead
My question is, how do you convince a Flat Earther that the Earth is not flat?
You cannot change an opinion using logic if logic wasn't used to form the opinion in the first place
Ouu i love that statement
that's why there's " (hint: facts aren't always enough) " in title
Unbreakable Patches what's that's supposed to mean, thief
Good point. It's why I can't convince people that taxation is theft😂
The psychologist give some surgery to change people's mind.
talk less, listen more.
Listen to understand, not to find mistakes.
TALK LESS, SMILEEE MOOORE
•Ich mag Kartoffel• DONT LET THEM KNOW WHAT UR AGAINST OR WHAT UR FORR
YOU WANNA GET AHEAD
Wow you really sound professional. 🙂🙂🙂
Jesus Christ never told lies, but still was crucified, Marcos
A combination of pride and anger. People don’t like to be wrong, especially when the person telling them they’re wrong looks like they’re enjoying the fact that they were the ones to tell them just how wrong they were.
Good point.
I know your true identity. You are not rusty shackleford......
Nor do they take responsibility for their own mistakes. I'm a delivery boy, and I see it every day on the road, lol.
not everyone. I don't mind if someone points out I am wrong But I do mind if someone says I am wrong, but then don't back it up with facts.
Exactly...
The goal of an argument isn't to win. It's to come to an agreement.
What if you come to an agreement that is false? Inconsistent with reality?
I'd say that the goal of an argument is to come closer to the truth, and to change more people's minds to be a bit more consistent with reality.
freesk8
That should be the goal, except everyone thinks that their outlook on the story is closer to reality, causing the argument in the first place.
Also, is this an argument we're having? 😅
Things got really political real fast
Exactly! You should explain your point to the other person and try to make them understand why you believe what you believe. If you end up still disagreeing with each other's opinion but being able to agree in some forms or at least understanding each other better, you've still done a good job.
Pranav Limaye that's why you must win it for your argument to be accepted and eventually more people will agree to a reality than the truth.
Aristotle's rhetoric advice is surprisingly similar: _ethos_ (appeal to authority), _pathos_ (emotion), and _logos_ (reason).
shu up
Mind surprisingly blown
@arthur11114 You cared enough to leave a reply :^)
To be honest, that's probably, perhaps indirectly, where Ted-ed got their points; it was likely based on those principals, just rephrased.
TedEd made a video on that too
Ted Ed: Linda must be either married or not, there are no other options
Linda: it's complicated
Schrodinger’s marriage
@@zhangjoey9224 underrated reply
Jada p smith moment
I actually think this is why we can only ever get so close to the “truth”. Reality is much more complex than theoretical logic. But I also think that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t refine our arguments because that enables the possibility of changing our minds and therefore “learning something new”
SHE WAS ON A BREAK!
Me: Proves that my brother is wrong
My Brother: Time to change the subject
That happen to me many items, if the person realize that was wrong i didn't need to argue more, so i just let them change the subjet, without insisting.
It backfire sometimes.
Nameless: Nice!!
My brother: time to beat you
Cough *flat-earthers* COUGH
lol ikr
Launch UP So the sun is also flat XD?....
You need to get woke. The earth is round, but it's inside out. The stars and planets are in the center of the earth and are super small.
wow i really losed that tho
If the earth is not flat, why are your shoes flat then?
The key is to never be patronizing or condescending, because if you do end up changing your mind, you can do so politely without hurting your pride.
The point of an argument is to offend as many people as possible
@@boxinabox6608 true
Last time I was as polite as possible, whilist the other participant was continually rude, he just dismissed it as 'manipulative rhetoric'.
There are some people who you just can't get through. But the only way to recognize who those people are, is to talk to them.
You guys are the best place to learn, you guys really satisfy my curiosity :D
Wow 701 likes and 0 replies
Imma be the first reply
Wow, this was 2 years ago as well and there were no replies till now
@@obsessiveduck0911 dam
Yes, its the same for me
Watch Kurzsugret - in a nutshell
If only people were reasonable enough for this to matter:
I had a conversation with my sister wherein she suggested I remove a flower from my garden because "it's a weed". Now it turns out that "weed" isn't a strict botanical term and all the word means is that it's a plant growing somewhere someone doesn't want it. But I like the flower so I didn't consider it a weed nor want to remove it.
So when asked what weed means she got angry because that's her response when she can tell a logical argument is coming and said "a weed is not a plant". After explaining that "weed" isn't any more definitive than "art" and that because I like the flower that I don't want to remove it not only did she not accept that in a matter of opinion my opinion takes precedence in my garden, she didn't even accept that "it's a weed" isn't even an argument because to her... "it's a weed".
People don't raise their voices because they don't have good arguments, they raise their voices when they'd rather fight than argue.
Kassidar
Jeez, get a smarter sister, this one is broken
Hadn't thought of that. Weed is in the eye of the beholder. So ultimately it's a weed to her and not to you. That's the way it's going to be.
To Felipe Hdez- COME DOWN TO THE SISTER EMPORIUM, WE'VE GOT ALL KINDS OF SISTERS HERE WITH A LIFETIME WARRANTY. DON'T LIKE HER? SEND HER BACK.
How old is she?
Because you can use that quote of hers "A weed is not a plant" for a long time to come whenever she tries to argue xD
Yes, bringing up irrelevant past quotes isn't the correct way to convey your logical argument, but neither is getting angry.
You’re both wrong weed is what I got rolled up in the spliff right here
Wow very logical
Now go make up with your sister
can't stress enough the last sentence: 'sometimes you might be the one who'd change their mind'
It was “you may even end up being the one changing your mind”
@@epicgaming7813 LMAOOOOO
@@BabyJay0380 what
@@epicgaming7813 You're changing his mind
@@boxinabox6608 bro
I've seen this video: change my mind.
You haven’t seen the video.
You haven't seen the video
Well, we can check.
Did you see the Easter Egg in the last couple seconds of the video?
wow baldly wants to change someone's mind
More than 75 percent of people on this planet haven’t watch this video, so you’re most likely part of them.
I know how to change people's minds, believe me. Nobody changes people's minds like me. I know words, I have the best words. I know it, you know it, everybody knows it.
i think ur a joke , change my mind
Shhh
You are Non-existent to us
Don't act tough, Troll Boi
Bigly. 😝
😂😂i see what you did there👍👍
Sebastian Elytron SAD!
In other words, think about how the other person feels. Not how you feel.
This is known as empathy!
Simpathy is putting yourself in the other person shoes.
Empathy is feeling what the other person feel.
No. Disregard everyone's feelings altogether. Remember, everyone includes you as well.
if that is the answer than i can't argue well...aperantly.
As an empath I felt so many emotions reading everyone's comments
In other words, use logos, ethos, pathos.
P well said. Nothing new here tbh
P i don't know, i just point my gun toward them and they agree with me
Blueberry SpillsInk 😮
@@trananbinhjerry6438 wait I tried my Nerf gun but it didn't work like you said, help?
And Legos
I love that you used the ASL signs for belief, trust and value! Nice touch!
As usual, the same satisfaction that always comes with a TED ED video!!
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@@TECHASPIRANT no
Shouts out to whoever was behind making the visuals for this video, it was really well done and very effective! :)
I beg to differ. To me, it was distracting, especially the objects changing shape and colour, without any connection to what was spoken
@@panda4247 may I invite you to indulge in an argument where I gently and thoroughly decimate your arguments with my superior reasoning and make you realise how blinding a lack of taste of quality art, such as the one you possess, can be?
@@laquzoeshiyasha you may try, but please be aware that I was not disputing the quality of the art, nor was I expressing my assessment of the art itself. So if you want to argue about my lack of taste, that is completely irrelevant to the point I was making.
This failed to convince me that you can change someones mind.
A video about how to change someone’s mind failed to convince him that you can change someone’s mind. I didn’t read ALL of the replies, but did ANYONE else get the joke?? LOL!
@@realvanman1
There's no joke.
Ironic
If it failed to convince you, then it did convince you.
@@hgfjhfgify thats funny but logically speaking, this isnt the same as the true or false paradox.
One aspect also worth considering is Cognitive Dissonance
People are naturally prone to avoiding discomfort in whatever form it may come. When a person has two conflicting ideas (such as “I smoke” and “Smoking is bad”) it generates discomfort. Thus, people tend to try and remove the discomfort by resolving the conflict by:
1. Changing/Questioning a thought (Smoking isn’t really that bad! The source must be biased!)
2. Accepting the thought and changing behaviour (Smoking is bad so I will stop)
3. Adding a thought to justify the behaviour (I exercise lots, so I compensate for it)
4. Trivializing it (It doesn’t really matter/ I don’t really care)
So, in a discussion you could construct an argument that is both logically sound, has good sources and resonates with his/her ideas and he/she might still passionately disagree with you simply because of the thought making him/her feel uncomfortable and he/she resorts to the first option.
As changing our ideas and behaviour is difficult and uncomfortable we tend to avoid doing so, instead of resorting to the other options.
I would also argue that this is especially the case if the idea/behaviour is big, important and something we believe strongly in. Like political or religious views. The more invested we are in an idea the more discomfort we would feel if it was questioned and the more prone to defending it and questioning the argument.
So, considering the example of the Iraq war given in the video. The thought process of the people becoming more convinced of their standpoint, despite being proven otherwise might have been something like this.
A) I believe the Iraq war was justified
B) The Iraq war was justified due to the WMAs.
C) This article shows that there were no WMAs.
*Inconsistency occurs, discomfort occurs, thoughts must be dealt with*
If C is true then B and A are wrong, that would require change which is uncomfortable, thus 1 and 3 might be used:
1 “The source must be biased or false” 3 “ There were others reasons for the war”
I hope someone found this interesting
I am by no means an expert, so please tell me if you found I’ve gotten something wrong.
For further reading, I very much recommend checking out the book Mistakes Were Made But Not By Me by Carol Travis and Eliot Aronson
Or check out this video on it that I used when writing this czcams.com/video/9Y17YaZRRvY/video.html
I hope you have a lovely day.
Late reply, but this was very well explained!
Great reply here 👍😬🌈
no one seems to mention, but the use of sign language in 1:27 is actually impressive
i wouldn't,because i can't speak (Is that even the right word at all?) sign language
The hand animations are really cool. I don't think anyone noticed. 😄
Which sign language?
“And most people are wrong” damn that sounds kinda savage
If I were a teacher i would first show my students TED-Ed videos about a topic and then explain and expand the ideas....
And this is why we need expertise we can trust in and respect.
No one person can know everything there is to know.
The culture we have right now that distrust experts is highly destructive to our democracies.
Sure, demand that your source is trustworthy. But don't imagine that you yourself in most cases know anywhere near enough to disagree with someone who has dedicated decades to answering the same question.
It's not just the distrust of experts, but a skepticism of the information and the systems by which humans gather information. Institutions and institutional concepts of "western civilization" are crumbling under the weight of willful ignorance and the collapse of any cohesive structure or belief system to hold us together.
I wish every anti-vaxxer see this comment.
But even "experts" are not always right. They are more likely to be right for well established subject. But for modern topics like : crypto-currency, liberalism, feminism, populism, etc... we have to figure out the "truth" ourselves
+Ha An Pham Of course they aren't always right. That's a given. Id be silly to think otherwise.
They just know all those things you don't even know you don't know.
And all those topics you mentioned have their own experts, that are well read on the topic, so I dont see your point frankly
If you're goal is to find that the answer is "4." to the question of "What's 2+2?", then what true discipline was employed to test the hypothesis? If some test gave you a different answer, how likely is that test to be included in the resulting explanations?
Can we appreciate how well the video is made ?
Kudos for the creative mind who made this video so visually delightful
„Don’t confuse me with facts, my opinion is already made“
When I see Ted-ED notification: Meh... I don't feel like learning right now... but I guess I got nothing else going on.
After watching: Is that it!? I'm not done learning! Why you do me like this! Dx
This style of video is so cool, props to whoever came up with it. The vibrant colors, stop motion, and animation make it really fun to look at
So beautifully drawn and with quite a knowledge behind the curtains. Thank you, Ted-Ed!
This animation creeps me out.
Awsamazing Eden yeah me 2
i think it's very smooth and oddly satisfying
What about it makes it creepy to you?
They look so life like
Me 2
This made me realize more about myself than others. I will be more conscious of this when debating.
Great to hear from you and ut was an amazing experience to watch your video and learn something new that's very essential to know. At first, people can think about how an argument can change someone's mind but it's true that people will realize when they watch the full video.
Love the depth and understanding of the lesson. And great animation as always btw 👍
I'm going to say it, TED-Ed is the best source of knowledge in CZcams, such well crafted videos always leave you satisfied.
by the end of the video I am left completely confused
OK.
This animation is just so beautiful. Combined with such good content is simply a brilliant video!❤
One of the most important things I’ve learned is that you should keep your opinions away from your personality. Many people hold their opinions to themselves like it’s their soul.
Good idea…. So you’re really saying, stay open minded to some extent ?
an important thing to remember is that changing your mind isn't bad, your opinions are not your personality, and if you disagree with what you have done in the past, that means you have grown, for better or for worse depending on who you ask.
I think what's most important to keep in mind is to debate in good faith, because no matter how right or correct you are, whoever you're arguing with will still have pride to maintain.
If you approach them in an offensive manner that basically screams "I AM HERE TO RIDICULE YOU AND YOUR BELIEFS" rather than actually helping them better understand something, I highly doubt they'd even want to hear your points at all!
But that of course will always depend on what the nature of the conversation is and what kind of person you're dealing with.
One your best videos yet. I love the breakdown of information with relevant examples!
Ted is amazing and I’ve learn a lot from this channel. What I’ve noticed is that 90% of their videos, circle and circle around the answer and never get to the middle of it (the concrete answer).
Love your animation. Best of its kind!!! ❤❤❤
Hoo boy, do I need this video.
Awsamazing Eden, I've seen you some where before, but I don't remember where.
Gee, man, just PICK ONE. Are you The Awesome Eden or The Amazing Eden?
'Cause I got dibs on the other one.
I love to have arguments and discussions not to win but there is one thing that is for sure that I get to learn something new every time which then can be used in future arguments.
I love this cycle.
i am one of those ppl... who understands this videos partially 😅
3 Points For Everything me too!
It's usually the smarter person the one that's capable of accepting that they don't know something, because those are the only ones that can work on understanding it later.
"I know that I know nothing" -Socrates
*these
me too*
If you live in a state where the descrimination of some social groups is considered normal you will know how hard it is to persuade people that it is not. For instance, try to convince people that veganism is right, as for now, vegans are the minority and it will be really hard to persuade a person to accept this idealogical concept or take, for instance, homophobia, it's pretty hard to convince people in post Soviet countries (just where I live) that it's wrong to hate lgbtq+ society. Fortunately, though, the situation about lgbtq+ society is getting better. The same is true for veganism. All the descriminations have a tendency towards becoming a minority as our species advance.
I wanna meet the hands behind the making of this video!
The visuals of today's video are fantastic!!
This is great way to explain how arguments always have an unknown obstacle -- the audience's beliefs and values
I didn’t like these animations at first but it really grew on me, something very captivating about it and helps illustrate the talk nicely. Great work 👍
This video changed my mind about how to change another person's mind
Sometimes it's not a matter of changing anyone else's mind, sometimes you just want people to respect you and your opinions and let you live in peace.
Such a concise and useful video. Thank you! We should rewatch it more often.
Very true. Sadly I've noticed people are so set in their ways many times that even when using those three components, they still won't change their minds despite the benefits that would follow. But I will definitely try to improve my debating skills.
I am your recent subscriber. And I love your videos. Thanks a lot. Your videos are amazing
When a boat is coming its sail is visible before the rest of it
4:00 Linda is ready to FIGHT.
It looks like she has her fists up for a fight, but she is actually holding the end of the sign that means “cherish” in American Sign Language! 😊
I used “cherish” in my previous comment, but I should add that this sign also means “values,” which this video is referring to in the explanation of catering to one’s values 😁
Some of these videos are hard to understand sometimes, but they're still interesting to watch
Wonderful video! The outstanding influence is using facts that you believe to convince you, even when they are wrong or mistaken by underestimating or overestimating its values.
That opening riddle messed me up bad
Amazing Video
Ted ed is just amazing
From zoology to psychology
From space to Shakespeare
From myths to Batman
A to z just everything
amazingly explained
Jeevanesh Sawhney me who doesn't understand a thing they talked about: Interesting...
In the first place I wanted to say that on my average thinking I thought about this weekend that I have so much problems yet after watching this I don't understand anything, yet I love how he talk. I'm convinced, that's all thank you
You guys never fail to give knowledge on a daily basis. Nice video! Keep it up!
Can we just sit for a minute and admire the genius of Ted's animating skills?
I'm liberal. When that talking point about military spending came up, my reaction to the first argument was: "that's a good point", and the second argument: "I don't care". And that freaks me out since that's exactly what TED expected.
This illustration is awesome. Also, very great points. Makes a lot of sense
Had to watch the video twice because the first time through I was just marveling at how "most people thought there wasn't enough information" to solve the opening riddle.
Hi ted ed i love your vids!!!!
Thank u ted ed for highlighting my comment! Its my first time!!!!
#suggestion do a video on Pythagoreans memory tips
Always something to learn. Thanks, Ted-Ed.
well the illustration is amazing and of a whole new level
After watching the whole video all i understood is you said 'logic', 'argument', or probably 'value' at some point.
ROVER that's why i use my trustworthy gun
Time to misuse this new found knowledge on everyone I know to suit my agenda because I am a sociopath... I mean... cake.
SuperAwesomeCaptain McFluffyPants believe it or not, i leaned at psychology school that manipulation using various threat can temporary improve the patient sanity and mentality
@@trananbinhjerry6438 because what we consider sanity is not really real
This is one of the best videos I have recently watched on CZcams.
More than presenting facts, it's about asking the right questions to people to make them think and see another's viewpoint.
I realized the hand motions for "beliefs", "trust", and "values" were American Sign Language!
Interesting
If everything else fails, try calling the other person something ending with -ist.
HAHA
RaCiCisT?!
You humanist!
ROFL
The animator did a really good job on the video, i hope to see more content animated like this.
Whoever did the animation is a freaking genius
Ted ed you are the best I have learnt atleast 20 percent of whatever I know from you!!!!!like if you love ted ed 😍😍😍
Edit: like if you agree
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Maybe Ted-ED should do a video on the different past tenses of english then. Learnt is the past of the past. The correct conjugation for your sentence is learned*.
Agree with exactly which clause of your post?
Thanks, I’m gonna hijack the Flat Earth Discord now and convince them the Earth is a sphere
Be careful soldier, we don't want to lose you
Did it work?
Are you alive?
You guys always have the best animations!
The art direction in this is beautiful
I’m watching this so that my teacher can change her mind on giving me a bad essay score 😂
The art style reminds me of “don’t hug me I’m scared”
True same here its kinda creepy
Lopve the style of this video! Amazing visuals and fun sounds. Also, interesting topic. Love it!
Another unexpected but perfectly made animation from Ted-Ed .Hats Off for your work👍👍👌
So youtube unsubed me from my fav youtubers but for some reason im subbed to ted talks... which i haven't watched in years
0:53 the five in the domino turned into four
Oh yeah... thats weird?
The level of creativity in this video animation is insane
I learned a lot from you guys.. from group theory to quantum physics and even mythology.. thanks a lot!
i think the bad thing is when we convinced someon we can do something when in fact we couldnt
So, in order to convince someone that you’re right you need to use arguments that that person will value the most, which requires listening carefully first
Such a beautiful visual style.
It is said that no matter how convincing you may manage to be, stubbornness paired with idiocy cannot be simply swayed by verbal argumentation.
How can you change someone's mind?
Among us in the nutshell.
TED ED 😍😍😍
This one is probably my favorite animation from the Ted-Ed Series
Really liked this video TED-Ed 🙂 The topic was informative and the art style and animation reminded me of a classic I Spy book 😊