Compact Cassette Tape Winders - From Bic to Sony

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  • @CPS2
    @CPS2 Před 4 lety +771

    I find that after I've listened to both sides, the tape has magically rewound itself.

    • @ruiner101
      @ruiner101 Před 4 lety +19

      Best comment!

    • @zsin128
      @zsin128 Před 4 lety +14

      How to get more music l, and don't even need to rewind

    • @emoyak8795
      @emoyak8795 Před 4 lety +9

      WITCHCRAFT

    • @ardenpips
      @ardenpips Před 3 lety +7

      WHAT KIND OF SORCERY IS THIS!!??

    • @thenewbgamer6416
      @thenewbgamer6416 Před 3 lety +7

      NOOOOOOO reallyyyyyyy???????
      sO cOoL I NeVEr kNeW tHat!!!

  • @LGR
    @LGR Před 5 lety +1916

    Hadn't seen one of those hand rewinders before, an admirably simple solution. Reminds me of those wind-up radio/flashlight devices for emergencies. Though I suppose winding a cassette is its own form of emergency, heh.
    And thanks again for having me on, this was fun!

    • @MINKIN2
      @MINKIN2 Před 5 lety +43

      It's Clint!!1 Hi Clint * waves*

    • @mattetch12
      @mattetch12 Před 5 lety +16

      There actually is a pencil out there that will wind a cassette tape, no longer made but I fondly remember using it because it fit the Sprocket in the center of the spindle.
      The pencil was called yikes!

    • @LinkTGF
      @LinkTGF Před 5 lety +3

      Ahh, Ticonderoga. A man after my own heart! 😍

    • @Kz-ds8gb
      @Kz-ds8gb Před 5 lety +5

      LGR FOODS !

    • @sh4dowchas3r
      @sh4dowchas3r Před 5 lety +6

      @@mattetch12 was it one of those triangular pencils? I vaguely remember they may have been better than the normal ones. maybe a visit to the pencil museum in in order.

  • @gmfinc18
    @gmfinc18 Před 4 lety +136

    >don't recommend spinning it on a pen.
    How dare you, that's a perfectly viable method. You either rewind the tape or get someone in the eye, win win.

    • @BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele
      @BICIeCOMPUTERconGabriele Před 3 lety +4

      Just keep the pen from the back, and let the cap on top, so the cassette won't get away from the pen!

  • @PeteyG708
    @PeteyG708 Před 5 lety +110

    “That would mean it would cost you ... every time you charged it up.”
    No!!!! Don’t give them any ideas!!!!

  • @d2d2505
    @d2d2505 Před 5 lety +161

    Techmoan video with an LGR cameo is like your favourite band covering your favourite song.

    • @DKbananas
      @DKbananas Před 5 lety +6

      Toto - Weezer - Weird Al - Africa

    • @cooliofoolio
      @cooliofoolio Před 5 lety +1

      ..and "Bleach" is my favorite album of all time too

    • @pierredubois5851
      @pierredubois5851 Před 5 lety +1

      Yeah right, I smiled stupidly when I heard that "greeting..." 🤭

  • @ekowstevens4054
    @ekowstevens4054 Před 5 lety +403

    A techmoan/LGR crossover. My god that made my day.

  • @spicy110
    @spicy110 Před 5 lety +184

    God this is bringing back some memories! Pencils worked but never well. I think you will find the people making the memes, have never laid hands on a cassette.

    • @JuliaMono
      @JuliaMono Před 5 lety +6

      This whole pencil thin really winds me up (pun intended) every time I see it. It never worked for me back then.

    • @1974UTuber
      @1974UTuber Před 5 lety +10

      The pencil only worked if you wrapped electrical tape or sticky tape around it.
      But the Bic always worked.
      So good to see the rest of the world was using the same pen and method as me in the 80's.
      I was one of the fling it round at head height crowd and only flung the odd cassette across the room

    • @NonsensicalSpudz
      @NonsensicalSpudz Před 5 lety +2

      I never understood it either, I was between the age of 4-7, at the time of cassette, so late 90s to early 2000s. always used my pinky or a pen, never saw anybody use a pencil

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Před 5 lety +4

      It does work, just not as well.

    • @spicy110
      @spicy110 Před 5 lety +7

      @@HappyBeezerStudios it's all in the angle. People saying no one did it....I did! 🤣

  • @WigWoo1
    @WigWoo1 Před 2 lety +8

    what I REALLY hated was sometimes the super cheap portable tape players didn't even HAVE a rewind button. If you wanted to rewind, you had to flip the tape over, fast forward a bit, flip it back over, and play.
    EDIT: I legit wrote that comment before watching the video. I can't believe you mentioned the EXACT same thing. That's so awesome

  • @TheHaddonfieldRegistry
    @TheHaddonfieldRegistry Před 5 lety +688

    LGR + Techmoan + 8-Bit Guy
    The Holy Trinity

  • @mushroomsamba82
    @mushroomsamba82 Před 5 lety +457

    The people who made those memes probably never rewound a cassette

    • @Minalkra
      @Minalkra Před 5 lety +51

      I used a pencil because that's what I HAD at the time. I wasn't in the habit of carrying around pens in school while tapes were a 'thing' - every teacher wanted every thing in pencil - so using a pen was a luxury I never really had. It looks a lot easier than using a pencil. I had a technique where I'd jam it in at an angle and, using the flat of my hand, I'd roll the pencil along a desk surface, pivoting the tape a bit. It was weird when I did have to do it.
      EDIT: Admittedly, when I listened to tapes, I'd usually wear out the batteries backwards and forwards and then steal the household supply of batteries when I needed new ones. Yeah, I was that kinda kid.

    • @pumajlr
      @pumajlr Před 5 lety +7

      Exactly my thoughts. And bic pens are so common in my country... You can find one in every house, office, everywhere!

    • @kbhasi
      @kbhasi Před 5 lety +2

      … but probably saw someone rewinding a tape using a BiC and mistook it for a Pencil

    • @Ryan.90
      @Ryan.90 Před 5 lety +33

      There's a lot of fake nostalgia about these days... Certainly isn't what it used to be?

    • @Markusbloodpet
      @Markusbloodpet Před 5 lety +24

      @@pumajlr in Germany we usually used pencils, because that's what we had. We didn't use bic pens in school. You either used pencils or fountain pens. Or you used a ball pen in later years. Even today you don't often see bic pens as much as in the US for example. Did it work great with pencils? No. Did it do the job... Yeah, kind of.

  • @thymark
    @thymark Před 5 lety +151

    Please do DVD Rewinder, yes this product really exist.

    • @yinnii1
      @yinnii1 Před 3 lety +16

      I totally forgot about them! I've just dug my old one out and am happy to say it works on blu-rays too. This will save me so much time!

    • @mystmicro2551
      @mystmicro2551 Před 3 lety +11

      but... why... why does it exist

    • @Afterimage_Rush
      @Afterimage_Rush Před 3 lety +6

      WTF do you mean DVD rewinder???

    • @jackamelar1455
      @jackamelar1455 Před 3 lety +1

      Works great with CDs as well

    • @MrExnihlo
      @MrExnihlo Před 3 lety +2

      It works great with bs as well!

  • @RockstarBruski
    @RockstarBruski Před 5 lety +20

    Fun video! I'm 54 years old and from San Diego California in the USA and can confirm that my school mates and I mostly used #2 pencils inserted at a slight angle to rewind tapes because we usually didn't have a bic pen at hand. 😎 note that really good tape play and record decks when rewinding and fast forwarding will sense tape end and will slow down just before the end to avoid tape stretching or snapping. Cheers! 😎

  • @davekimball3610
    @davekimball3610 Před 5 lety +53

    "Greetings" did giggle a bit hearing the Lazy Games Review intro. Nice guest spot.

  • @MrKroogur
    @MrKroogur Před 5 lety +77

    Hi i'm old! (47) No one in any school I attended used pencils to rewind tapes we always used the handy dandy Bic. The t-shirts and whatnots are likely using a generic pencil to avoid any issues with Bic legal dept.

    • @MashiloMagongoa
      @MashiloMagongoa Před 5 lety +5

      You are not old you are the right age, we are children of the '80's, I just recently turned 47 as well!

    • @metamorphicorder
      @metamorphicorder Před 5 lety +11

      No they arent. There are lots of pens and bic wouldnt be able to sue over that so long as they dont call it a bic. Its just a picture. The copyright isnt the reason. Lots of people just used pencils and angled them awkwardly.

    • @Devilsharck
      @Devilsharck Před 5 lety +4

      From my experience, if a tape needed a full rewind I would use a Biro pen. However if the tape just needed to be rewound just a song or two back then I would often use just whatever was at hand, and often times that would be a pencil. I remember hardly ever having to patience to manually rewind a tape fully and would just sacrifice the batteries to fast forward on the other side if I was desperate, but to avoid this I would just play tapes where I wouldn't want/need to skip/rewind a whole side.
      So 95% of my manual rewinding was done to just go back three or at most ten minutes of run time and in school or at home being a child, a pencil would always be at hand.
      Also once with enough practice you could figure out the correct angle and do "power spins" (in short bursts) with a pencil, that would do the job very well.

    • @ankimotto
      @ankimotto Před 5 lety +2

      Memes dont care about legal or anything, look at those stupid nokia 3310 meme
      I'm not too old, but I remember when I was 8 I used some pilot pen instead and since it's the same as bic pen it works just fine
      Also yes, I've never used pencil to rewind. It never fits.

    • @blshouse
      @blshouse Před 5 lety +4

      I'm 50, the pencil was my preferred rewinder because pens were much less commonly used for school work. And I used it for the fast rewind, spinning the tape on the pencil, not awkwardly using it at an angle; you might as well just use your fingers if you are only rewinding a little bit.

  • @Stingetan
    @Stingetan Před 5 lety +51

    The pencil meme was made by young'ins like me. I am 25. Old enough to remember cassettes being the standard, too young to have actually owned a portable cassette player.
    My first portable music device was a cheap convenience store MP3 player filled with pirated music from Limewire but I vividly remember my older siblings lying in wait in front of the boombox, tape in deck, waiting for their favorite song to come on the radio.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Před 4 lety

      Basically missed it only by a few years then.
      Between by portable cassete player and my first mp3 player I had like 2-3 cd players, some of which also played mp3's. Still had my walkman around, because trying to get the decayed audio from there somehow into mp3 was quite the act.
      But I quickly switched over to rechargable batteries, they worked fine, and you only had to buy them once!

    • @zsin128
      @zsin128 Před 4 lety +1

      My first mp3 player was filled with yt to mp3 music. (2016)
      Second was iPod, with cd ripped music (2018)

  • @WOSArchives
    @WOSArchives Před 4 lety +21

    7:12 Well, you just achieved that milestone, so here's hoping CZcams didn't secretly discontinue the play button rewards.

  • @godfreypoon5148
    @godfreypoon5148 Před 5 lety +161

    8:31 That poor switch. I, too, would get depressed if someone kept closing the lid on me and kept me in that pokey little box.

    • @las10plagas
      @las10plagas Před 5 lety +3

      xD
      nice one

    • @kapparomeo
      @kapparomeo Před 5 lety +8

      It's quite like how everyone says "flammable" nowadays when we should be saying "inflammable". I remember reading manuals from the 1980s and early 1990s which still told you to "depress the switch". The abbreviation "press" just seems to have been universally adopted as a convenience which isn't easily confused with other words.

    • @TiagoTiagoT
      @TiagoTiagoT Před 5 lety +2

      A similar phenomenon has been happening with "regardless"/"irregardless"; but in the opposite direction for some reason...

    • @las10plagas
      @las10plagas Před 5 lety +3

      @@TiagoTiagoT now image you have learned english as a 2nd language but you have only learned the "old" words.
      sometimes, I am confused ^^

    • @kapparomeo
      @kapparomeo Před 5 lety +5

      @@TiagoTiagoT I get the impression that people tend to conflate "regardless" and "irrespective" in their heads and jumble the two words into one.

  • @ActualCharky
    @ActualCharky Před 5 lety +48

    Mat: "ask a friend who lives there"
    Me: "so... Is it Clint or David?"

  • @Tactcat
    @Tactcat Před 4 lety +28

    Your collection of consumer electronics is on par with a museum - in a way, I think of you as an archaeologist mediating all these things to us. Thanks for showing of all these romantic machines :)

  • @mhoppy6639
    @mhoppy6639 Před 3 lety +7

    Having watched this “later in the day” I’m so heartened to hear Matt’s very very modest “if I ever get near 1m subscribers” observation. So pleased that he got there and so deserving of the figure.

  • @CK-ceekay
    @CK-ceekay Před 5 lety +106

    Techmoan better be part of CZcams Rewind

    • @ser2352
      @ser2352 Před 4 lety +2

      Good pun

    • @ratataran
      @ratataran Před 4 lety +3

      Good one. CZcams rewind is shit and if techmoan even gets in that's an insult to techmoan. He doesnt need his name mentioned in any youtube rewind ever.

    • @blackmagic7976
      @blackmagic7976 Před 4 lety +2

      Andrei Taran they used to be good but then they turned to shit

    • @markusisaksson6023
      @markusisaksson6023 Před 3 lety +1

      "Rewind" ......😁👌

  • @stevenjlovelace
    @stevenjlovelace Před 5 lety +362

    Does CZcams make woodgrain play buttons?

    • @mipmipmipmipmip
      @mipmipmipmipmip Před 5 lety +6

      @@_Piers_ I think it's more interesting if he gets some crossover with a DIY channel to make one himself

    • @Hydr8Man
      @Hydr8Man Před 5 lety +4

      Time for a custom wood grain wrapped play button

    • @jamiemarchant
      @jamiemarchant Před 5 lety

      Probably not but they should.

    • @MalleusSemperVictor
      @MalleusSemperVictor Před 5 lety +2

      I'd prefer a chrome play button with neon accents.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Před 5 lety

      Matte black, chrome strips and woodgrain for the interior, if I ever manage to get one, that is how it should look like.

  • @GIJOEG36
    @GIJOEG36 Před 4 lety +6

    I grew up in the end of the cassette era. I remember to use my small grey jumbo grip pencils to wind my cassettes.
    These pencils are triangular but large enough to fit.

  • @gantchogantchev6554
    @gantchogantchev6554 Před rokem +1

    No, your pencils are/were precisely the same as the ones we used in Bulgaria, neither thinner nor thicker. And my experience with them is exactly the same as yours. The BIC pens were the best for winding tapes. 😂 You are spot on, as usual...

  • @jtmichaelson
    @jtmichaelson Před 5 lety +18

    Nope. Never used a pencil. All we really had were the standard No. 2s and they never did the trick, unless you did the swirly thing. And I, like you, have seen my share of flying tapes shot across the room. But the classic American tape rewinder was ALWAYS the Bic pen. They were cheap (you could steal them from anywhere) and fit perfectly. For us, back in the 80s, I remember a pack of 5 Bics were maybe $1 to $2, and my mother liked that price. I even kept empty Bics at my stereo for the sole purpose of rewinding tapes.
    Great video and more interesting than one would expect. Thank you.

  • @CC-ke5np
    @CC-ke5np Před 5 lety +7

    Ballpoints (e.g. Bic pens) were not allowed in school here in Germany. Teachers claimed that they will spoil your handwriting skills. We had to use first pencils and then fountain pens until we were 18 years old.
    So we did use pencils but used a stripe of paper wrapped around the pencil to make it work. If the paper stripe has the correct length, the cassette is also somewhat secured and can't fly through the school bus.

    • @CC-ke5np
      @CC-ke5np Před 5 lety +2

      And by the way, Bic pens were not common in Germany at all. All common ballpoint pens in the last century were the retractable kind which were round and couldn't work with a cassette.

  • @lashyndragon
    @lashyndragon Před 5 lety +7

    The fact that both of you can take a dry subject such as this and make it entertaining speaks to why you both deserve more subs.

  • @kevinmaison9403
    @kevinmaison9403 Před 5 lety +7

    I remember using pencils and the spin technique ( 0:45 ) on most of my cassettes, this worked quite well actually.
    The centrifugal force provided enough friction between the cassette reel and the slightly too small pencil. I've also never worried about ripping the tape, so that might also have been a benefit of using a pencil.
    I also used to rip CDs to cassettes and give them to friends in around 2001, those were the days...

  • @GRSEMETROMALL
    @GRSEMETROMALL Před 5 lety +74

    I am from the US and I have never seen such a thing. I got arrested for stealing Duracell’s when I was 12 or 13. They said if you were going to still you might as well have steal the best. I didn’t get charged. The cops took me to the precinct and I have to walk home 2.5 miles. I didn’t steal anything after that experience. I just brought more batteries.

    • @davidjgomm
      @davidjgomm Před 5 lety +75

      You stole batteries but you didn't get charged....

    • @mipmipmipmipmip
      @mipmipmipmipmip Před 5 lety +6

      lesson learned, simpler times

    • @reedyd
      @reedyd Před 5 lety +14

      Your comment reminded me of the time I got busted at a department store where I'd bought regular and alkaline batteries, then came back and tried to return the regular batteries in an alkaline battery package. The cashier looked at me like "really?", picked up her phone and called security. My ex-Marine dad was shopping next door at a grocery store and security escorted me to him. He was not impressed.

    • @mipmipmipmipmip
      @mipmipmipmipmip Před 5 lety +8

      @@reedyd Did you later move to law, banking, politics or silicon valley?

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 Před 5 lety +11

      So they never put you in a cell?

  • @TheLuizSouza
    @TheLuizSouza Před 5 lety +429

    The pencil meme thing probably just stems from kids who never really lived during the cassette age pretending they did. I guess they overheard real adults talking about using a pen and mixed it up.

    • @flutch1284
      @flutch1284 Před 5 lety +18

      I wind cassettes with pencil

    • @denisohbrien
      @denisohbrien Před 5 lety +43

      got to agree with this. BIC pen =rewind tool. and I can't imagine anyone who lived then associating a pencil with this activity as they just didn't work. I came here to basically say the same thing. some confused 12 year old said pencil to sound cool.

    • @fheedpexx9267
      @fheedpexx9267 Před 5 lety +28

      Lived back then. Used a pencil. Worked perfectly. I''m trying it again right now for the first time in years... still works great.
      Just angle it slightly and the shape of the pencil makes it work almost as good as a bic pen. I can only assume the ones saying it doesn't work have the wrong technique or something.

    • @hobbitilius
      @hobbitilius Před 5 lety +14

      Just like the other commenters, I used a pencil to wind my casettes during all of my childhood.

    • @bombardier420
      @bombardier420 Před 5 lety +4

      Pencil here as well

  • @Elfnethu
    @Elfnethu Před 5 lety +1

    When I was a kid, I used Stabilo Fineliners - it was a bit tight, but once pushed in, its hexagonal body never slipped. Luckily they are still available, so I don't need no fancy cranking machine.
    On an unrelated note: I like your videos - who else can make an entertaining video about rewinding a casette with pen?

  • @NekoWinters
    @NekoWinters Před 5 lety +11

    LGR + TEACHMOAN?!?! Christmas came early to CZcams, THANKS guys, you're both super awesome!!!

  • @DeofolLock
    @DeofolLock Před 5 lety +77

    Would love to see you and Clint hit 1m. Great content from both of you. Love the cameos!

  • @finalredlaser
    @finalredlaser Před 5 lety +83

    Great video, but now I'm hoping for a sequel episode about VHS rewinders. Deep down I still want that one that looks like a red sports car!

    • @sachyriel
      @sachyriel Před 5 lety

      Nicholas Wertz my neighbour had that when I was young! Like 20 years ago young. XD

    • @lesimpressionsdelataniere2426
      @lesimpressionsdelataniere2426 Před 5 lety +6

      This is a bit harder to rewind with a Bic pen :D

    • @TheRanblingjohnny
      @TheRanblingjohnny Před 5 lety

      First thing that came to mind.

    • @LGR
      @LGR Před 5 lety +7

      My grandparents had one of those. They put Dale Earnhardt stickers on it.

    • @SeanBZA
      @SeanBZA Před 5 lety +2

      Those however were a thing for the rental market, so you never wore out your VCR rewinding a tape twice (because the cnut who had it before you never was be kind and rewind) to watch your movie. Still have at least 2 of those in a cupboard somewhere, though they probably need new belts now, the ones they came with were not the best, but I did have a large selection of old VCR drive belts that were part of service kits that were useful in replacing them, or for some in at least splicing together a non stretched belt for it using some flexible superglue and sandpaper.

  • @zetametallic
    @zetametallic Před 4 lety +2

    I had that Saisho personal stereo- bought for me at Christmas 1985 when I was 9. It lived into the early 90's when my dad declared it "brown bread" (electronics engineer) as apparently it pulled 3× more out of the batteries than it should of done and they lasted just minutes.
    I still have my Saisho midi system from 1989 stored away in perfect condition.

  • @adrianbaptista5596
    @adrianbaptista5596 Před 4 lety +1

    AN EXCELLENT VLOG. BROUGHT BACK MEMORIES OF MY CHILDHOOD DAYS, FIDDLING WITH CASSETTES TO REWIND. THANKS.

  • @thestuffz
    @thestuffz Před 5 lety +57

    Canadian here - The pencil vs pen thing is because in grade school they did not allow us to have Ink Pens. Pencils only! it was not until Jr high / High school that we were allowed to have ink pens. And even then, it was black or blue only. Red was forbidden (yay teachers marking in red ink) and other coloured ink pens were only for Art class.

    • @kbhasi
      @kbhasi Před 5 lety +4

      Ah, so it's sort of like how public schools here in Singapore don't allow students to bring any electronics (aside from a small list of approved devices for certain subjects), but when I moved on to college, I was able to bring such things with me.

    • @phreakinpher
      @phreakinpher Před 5 lety +9

      All the people saying the meme is fake probably don't remember the 80s. Kids were not allowed pens, only pencils.

    • @happens
      @happens Před 5 lety +5

      Don't assume that because this person mentionned he's Canadian that all Canadians in every Provinces were using pencil! As for me I've always used a BIC pen and I am Canadian too.

    • @AndreasHagelberg
      @AndreasHagelberg Před 5 lety +5

      Same here in Sweden. No pens allowed, only pencils. And I do remember winding tapes occasionally with my pencil. It was awkward, but it did the job. In junior high we were given mechanical pencils and they were similar size and shape to BICs and they worked much better for winding tapes with.

    • @robertkeddie
      @robertkeddie Před 5 lety +2

      At my first school we weren't allowed scissors. So they gave us a metal spike so we could perforate the paper and tear it. Not sure about the logic.

  • @Lurker1979
    @Lurker1979 Před 5 lety +17

    I used number 2 pencils because when I was in primary/elementary school. We were not allowed to have pens. So that is all I had avilable.

    • @RenigadeWarrior1
      @RenigadeWarrior1 Před 5 lety

      This is exactly what I was going to say. The closest thing that we had to a Bic pen were the stacked cartridge pencil. I don't remember if those were the correct size though.

    • @creakycracker
      @creakycracker Před 3 lety +1

      And the pencil fit perfectly if you could twist the rubber band off of a newspaper around it. I usually got them at the corner newsstand.

  • @bazoo513
    @bazoo513 Před 3 lety +1

    I see you are past 1M subscribers, and LGR is inching towards 1.5M. Congratulations to both.
    This was interesting in a quirky way, just like many of your videos. Thanks!

  • @gartennelke
    @gartennelke Před 5 lety +1

    An unexpectedly good video! Subscribed to LGR, thanks for that. Looks a great channel!

  • @brianhill4153
    @brianhill4153 Před 5 lety +29

    This is my favorite channel. I love this video. Who else could make rewinding a tape interesting?

    • @test123
      @test123 Před 5 lety

      not only interesting, but masterpiece.

  • @oljackoful
    @oljackoful Před 5 lety +13

    Bic pen also has a distinct sound when you use them. That slippy clack brings me back.

    • @Bubu567
      @Bubu567 Před 3 lety +1

      They clack rattle when you drop them. The sound is unmistakable. I would tap the pen in my cheek when thinking to make the rattle noise.

  • @gramajomd
    @gramajomd Před rokem +2

    4 years after and I DID NOT EXPECTED THAT LGR CAMEO

  • @daithiocinnsealach1982

    Your videos are therapy to me. I'll watch anything you post up.

  • @JacobFrey
    @JacobFrey Před 5 lety +16

    I definitely used a pencil to wind a cassette. I hooked the pencil POINT into a tooth on the cassette reel and turned it round that way. Certainly not the best for the cassette or the pencil, but I was just a kid, using cheap blank cassettes to record copies of my Dad's stuff or music from FM radio.

  • @marceloeducosta
    @marceloeducosta Před 5 lety +19

    Man, gotta love those kind of videos!
    Taking a apparent pointless subject into a well made 14 and a half minutes video and with LGR collab.
    Just great
    Keep the good work mate!

  • @andychow5509
    @andychow5509 Před 5 lety

    Awesome collaboration with LGR! I love both you guys.

  • @Yapostadodat
    @Yapostadodat Před 5 lety +1

    Another triumph for Techmoan AND LGR! Great combination of like minded energies to thoroughly explain this beautifully minimalistic, DUI aspect of technology past; which is in itself beautiful. Archaic modes of rewinding archaic forms of media is why I tune into this channel. Thanks for existing guys, the universe is much more interesting with you both.

  • @XY4X
    @XY4X Před 5 lety +18

    This is why I love your channel. Videos on niche stuff I never knew I wanted to see, but now that it exists, it's exactly what I want to see.

  • @sobolanul96
    @sobolanul96 Před 5 lety +7

    I remember using a standard pencil when lacking a proper pen to rewind a cassette and I live in Europe. It was a bit sloppy but it did the job eventually.

  • @kevinsuarezmacena1003
    @kevinsuarezmacena1003 Před 5 lety

    It's something inherently relaxing in watching old tech working as it should. Good job!

  • @WalnutSpice
    @WalnutSpice Před 5 lety +2

    God I've watched lgr since 2012. Longest I've ever consistently followed someone's content. Man's amazing and never puts out a boring video. Can't believe he's almost to a million. Deserves it, check him out. 10 years worth of great interesting content.

  • @scottasanagi
    @scottasanagi Před 5 lety +16

    I was in China when I was a kid and remember using pencils to wind cassettes. I remember the best sold pencils (Zhong Hua) are just a bit thicker than being too skinny for it.

    • @Raterex
      @Raterex Před 5 lety +1

      I think I used the 2B version of Zhong Hua pencil, which had no eraser end. Ended up with dents at the edges of the pencil and damaging the tape (forced way too hard into the hole).

    • @user-po6hn9id1t
      @user-po6hn9id1t Před 5 lety +1

      Hui Rong let's hope that you learned the lesson for not forcing pencils too hard into holes...

  • @ThisIsTeeKay
    @ThisIsTeeKay Před 5 lety +25

    27-year-old Canadian. Used Bic pens as well; never pencils.

    • @JT-hi1cs
      @JT-hi1cs Před 5 lety

      37-year-old Brazilian. Also always BIC. Pencil only if desperate.

  • @Hoekb03
    @Hoekb03 Před 3 lety

    Saw this more than 2 years after you posted it, still nice entertainment. Loved seeing Clint in the video. And you yourself hit the 1.000.000 mark as wel I see. Keep up the good work!

  • @SteveHyde
    @SteveHyde Před 5 lety

    Yes! This video is awesome and fascinating, the LGR drop was also awesome, youre the best Matt

  • @SkeletonSyskey
    @SkeletonSyskey Před 5 lety +13

    so many memories...
    so many memorex.

    • @jamescollins6085
      @jamescollins6085 Před 5 lety

      So many memories that I wish I could have experienced :(

    • @RCAvhstape
      @RCAvhstape Před 5 lety +1

      @@jamescollins6085 Don't feel too bad; you missed out on everything smelling like cigarette smoke everywhere at least.

  • @kbhasi
    @kbhasi Před 5 lety +25

    OMG
    TECHMOAN FEATURING LAZY GAME REVIEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    😍😍😍😍😍
    11:16 Yay for Nixie display tubes!

    • @bombardier420
      @bombardier420 Před 5 lety

      @@KRAFTWERK2K6 except that it's a simple cameo, and the average CZcams viewer gas trouble with videos over 10 minutes, let alone having the drive to find out who that other face was that popped up for 30 seconds. I think it's kind of cool to hear another familiar voice unexpectedly 🤷

  • @3deros
    @3deros Před 5 lety +1

    Another great video. Love the LGR crossover. As always interesting and informative.

  • @davezatina3575
    @davezatina3575 Před 4 lety

    I'm a tech junkie, you made a tape rewinder interesting. Also loved your editing when came to the audio from LGR. Made it seem like it was coming from a cassette. Keep up the awesome job your doing.

  • @AgsmaJustAgsma
    @AgsmaJustAgsma Před 5 lety +19

    LGR Cameo! No wonder why there was no video this monday.

    • @LGR
      @LGR Před 5 lety +12

      That was largely due to Red Dead Redemption 2 ;)

    • @Dawwwg
      @Dawwwg Před 5 lety +4

      @@LGR You Lazy Game Reviewer !

  • @waltersmetak
    @waltersmetak Před 5 lety +5

    God!!!! A Cassette tape hand winder!!!! Unbelievable!!! I haven't seen one of these in almost four decades!!!

  • @Elifesound
    @Elifesound Před 5 lety

    Awesome collaboration with LGR! Love his content!

  • @edumaker-alexgibson
    @edumaker-alexgibson Před 3 lety +2

    It was most satisfying to see my preferred method twirling around a Bic pen.

  • @overdriven77
    @overdriven77 Před 5 lety +129

    People who made cassette and pencil meme, clearly never winded a cassette with a pencil!

    • @prateekbhatia958
      @prateekbhatia958 Před 5 lety +1

      Yup😂

    • @Agamemnon2
      @Agamemnon2 Před 5 lety +14

      I think you mean "wound".

    • @SonofTheMorningStar666
      @SonofTheMorningStar666 Před 5 lety +7

      I used pencils.

    • @freezetile8588
      @freezetile8588 Před 5 lety +5

      "Kids these days will never understand what it was like... and neither will we."

    • @CC-ke5np
      @CC-ke5np Před 5 lety +4

      In Germany this was common since ballpoint pens were banned in schools. But you need a strip of paper wrapped around the pencil to make it work.

  • @vladimir7838
    @vladimir7838 Před 5 lety +7

    Techmoan, I still cry when I see a tape.. My granddad recorded over my collectible "Moody Blue" Elvis Presley album tape.. :(

  • @renemies78
    @renemies78 Před 5 lety

    I found this video to be more interesting than most videos I've seen on youtube this week. Hahaha. Great video and content like always.

  • @stuartharrison2896
    @stuartharrison2896 Před 5 lety

    man,i used to rewind tapes with my bic when at school,haha,takes me back,also over the years i found ever ready batteries(the blue ones,not the red)used to last me weeks.keep up the good work!

  • @mikekz4489
    @mikekz4489 Před 5 lety +25

    I wouldn’t say that no one ever used a number two pencil to rewind a cassette tape. It could’ve done the job in a pinch, especially since it would have readily available, especially to a kid. I never thought people would actually wind a tape in that manner to get to a particular song. The only time I ever used a pen or pencil to wind a tape was to fix it after it got jammed in a cassette player.

  • @SuperCookieGaming_
    @SuperCookieGaming_ Před 4 lety +23

    When i was a kid in the 2000s I used a bic pen or pinched it with my fingers.

  • @Grace_Robbins
    @Grace_Robbins Před 3 lety +1

    Oh my word, the Bic pen rewind method really brought me back...funny how people from all over figured out that method!

  • @pdsrenos
    @pdsrenos Před 5 lety +2

    Growing up, I always used a pencil as they were more handy. I have used a bic pen also, but mostly I used a pencil. Yes, you had to tilt it a bit to be effective, but after figuring it out, it was never a problem to continue using a pencil. I personally associate a pencil with that function over a bic pen. Obviously I am in the USA and I never knew anyone that did not use pencils most of the time. I also remember wrapping some masking tape around a pencil to make it easier.

  • @castin5244
    @castin5244 Před 5 lety +32

    I swear I remember using pencils to wind tapes. In fact I remember them being a really snug fit and sometimes the paint would get scraped off the pencil from the teeth on the reels.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios Před 5 lety

      I did it while watching the video. Actually, the same yellow/black-made-in-germany pencilshe showed around 4:00

    • @KevinFields777
      @KevinFields777 Před 5 lety

      I did it, but there was typically frequent slipping and eventually it would wear down the pencil enough to be useless and you'd have to get another pencil.

    • @swancrunch
      @swancrunch Před 5 lety +2

      i too remember rotating cassettes on a pencil (like at 0:45) in around 96. but now that i think of it, i'm not sure if it was a pen or pencil. or even a sharpie. damn, 20 years passed, i can't even remember faces of people i loved back then, how could i be sure about fucking pencil?

    • @KevinFields777
      @KevinFields777 Před 5 lety

      @@swancrunch sometimes memory betrays you, but sometimes its funny about how crystal clear it is.

    • @alexanderthomas2660
      @alexanderthomas2660 Před 5 lety

      I also remember it but I do remember that I had to keep most pencils at an angle to get any kind of grip. It just depended on the brand of pencil.

  • @denimadept
    @denimadept Před 5 lety +102

    The BIC pen likely has more of a trademark associated with them.

    • @GiddeonFox
      @GiddeonFox Před 5 lety +11

      That's never really stopped memes in the past, though. I think the pencil thing is more because, at least in my case (as an American in elementary and middle school when tapes were still A Thing) you generally didn't carry pens - we didn't use pens for anything at school, they were never on the list of school supplies you needed, etc. Everything was centered around pencils, presumably because they're easier to remove from surfaces when the kids inevitably scribble all over their desks or whatever. Maybe that's different in the UK?

    • @GiddeonFox
      @GiddeonFox Před 5 lety

      And yeah I totally remember kids whirling the tapes around on the bus too, just with a pencil instead of a pen :)

    • @camarykaren
      @camarykaren Před 5 lety

      @@GiddeonFox Agree with your statement totally. I used a pencil all the time too cause my school didnt have pens really . I dont rememeber using a pen till like high school and i thought it was the greatest thing ever.
      Felt like an adult.

    • @DumahBrazorf
      @DumahBrazorf Před 5 lety +2

      Did not have this restriction in Italy. Always had pens and pencils at school so the bic one is the real meme for us.

    • @fp9623
      @fp9623 Před 5 lety +1

      Dumah Brazorf esatto, non c'è storia qui, la BIC regna

  • @carkary
    @carkary Před 5 lety

    Best tech video ever...LGR and Techmoan, the dream team.

  • @originalmossman
    @originalmossman Před 5 lety

    Big up for showing my first personal stereo at 1:30 - mine was the "superb quality" one at 25 quid (had the luxury of built-in radio - wooh!). Quality wasn't all that great since I remember it would slow down and wobble significantly as the batteries drained (incidentally, I spent my pocket money on a Varta battery charger and set of AAs - no worrying about tape winding and Bics for me!). But I loved it - one of the best Christmases ever.
    I still have it somewhere in the "big box of assorted electronics, cables and other junk"... must be why I have an affinity for this channel...

  • @concr3t3
    @concr3t3 Před 5 lety +20

    those purple radio shack rechargeable batteries are my childhood

    • @ct92404
      @ct92404 Před 5 lety +7

      Lol...yeah, this is going to sound really weird but Nickel-Cadmium rechargeable batteries back in the 80's had a really distinct smell to them when you first took them out of the charger and they were still warm. Modern Ni-mh batteries don't have it.

    • @5roundsrapid263
      @5roundsrapid263 Před 5 lety +1

      I had Millennium batteries. They recharged fine, but they’d eventually corrode.

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 Před 5 lety

      I've still got some & they still work 35+ years later!
      Richard (UK)

    • @TiberianFiend
      @TiberianFiend Před 4 lety

      I had the GE brand rechargeable batteries. I never used them much and I don't remember why. Maybe it was because they didn't last very long, or maybe it was because of a simple lack of batteries.

  • @SupraWes
    @SupraWes Před 5 lety +15

    I used to use pencils because it was what we had. Even if we did have a pen there was only a small chance that it was that particular one. Pencils are almost all the same size and do the job.

  • @peacekkqmark
    @peacekkqmark Před 3 lety +1

    This video nicely illustrates the subjectivity of perception: In Techmoan's opinion, the Bic pen "...fits the spindle holes perfectly" [4:20], but LGR states that the pen caught the teeth of the reels "...just enough to move them" [5:39].

  • @mjgthakid
    @mjgthakid Před 5 lety

    Jeez I have been enjoying your content for years now but never hit that sub button until now, you'll hit a million sooner than later.

  • @celestinocamicia
    @celestinocamicia Před 5 lety +10

    I know why the cassette-and-pencil meme is around and I can add my two cents from an Italian standpoint: there is indeed a big wave of nostalgia going on that is all based around the same (wrong) bits of pop culture, unoriginally and repetitiously thrown about and perhaps augmented with the same couple bits of info copied and pasted from Wikipedia, by people who most probably weren’t born at the time or never actually experienced what they go on about.
    In Italy, the slogan they associate with all of this is “what do the 2000ers know about this?” and the decade they yearn for is the 90s...BUT mistakes abound: I have seen a video where a nostalgic and stereotyped recreation is made of downloading movies from 56k in 1992...which would have been impossible since the Internet didn’t hit our shores till 1995 and there certainly weren’t any good video download possibilities at the time.
    Likewise, a common object that pops up with these nineties italo-nostalgics as a symbol of the decade is the Nokia 3310 mobile phone and how indestructible it was.
    Only problem is...the 3310 actually came out in the year 2000.
    Musically speaking, stuff such as Eiffel 65’s “Blue” or Gigi d’Agostino’s “L’Amour Toujours” (blimey I hope I spelt that right!!!) are amongst the recurring tropes, as if the 90s only started in 1998 and euro-dance was the only thing everybody listened to...I mean, grunge was a thing too back then but nevermind (pun absolutely intended)
    So...you mention the Mandela effect, I would say that what is behind the cassette-and-pencil meme can be summed up in a similar way.
    Let’s call it the “Nokia 3310 effect”.
    Maybe you should resurrect Zack Gobshite from your brief “I don’t remember the 80s” segment from a few cassette videos back and do a series of episodes of badly commemorated things from the past 😄

    • @ct92404
      @ct92404 Před 5 lety +1

      It's the Millennials doing that. The same thing is happening here in the US. Millennials are jumping on the bandwagon and trying to be "retro" but they are completely clueless and have no idea what they're talking about.

    • @ct92404
      @ct92404 Před 5 lety

      @Proscriptus That wouldn't make any sense. That would be 20 years before the turn of the millennium, basically a whole other generation. It's people born around 1990, at the turn of the millennium, hence the Millennial name.

    • @celestinocamicia
      @celestinocamicia Před 5 lety +1

      Well...I was born in 1987 and still I don’t wanna consider myself a “millennial” just cos I don’t like that word very much, especially since it’s used in a pejorative way more than anything.
      I am a sucker for things of the past, but I do my research better than just the same scattered bits of wrong info and if I happen to come across bits of tech or everyday gadgetry from before the 90s (which is the decade I should tecnically be a “kid” from 😄) I try to experience using it in the most personal way possible.
      For lack of having lived through certain things back then, I almost approach them as if they just came out on the market...that’s the spirit these pretend nostalgics might want to embrace, rather than going on about how they miss certain years from which the only thing they can actually really remember would most probably be learning to walk or training for the potty 😂

    • @Sampler19
      @Sampler19 Před 5 lety

      He should definitely resurrect Zack Gobshite!
      My favourite 90s nostalgia from italy are Rexanthony and Doris Norton! Though i only got to know them in the late nineties and tenners (or how do you call these?)

    • @ct92404
      @ct92404 Před 5 lety

      @@celestinocamicia I just wanted to say too that I really like your writing style, even in a comment. That is especially impressive if English isn't your first language.

  • @ThomWinters
    @ThomWinters Před 5 lety +9

    I definitely used a pencil and not a pen. All it takes is a little practice and patience.

  • @erol218
    @erol218 Před 4 lety

    LGR and Tech Moan best retro tech channels. Crossing made my day

  • @thomasraden
    @thomasraden Před 5 lety

    Except for your very informative and interesting videos I would like to mention that you do have a very good, relaxed and a very good narrative voice. Please do continue your good work.

  • @KTo288
    @KTo288 Před 5 lety +4

    I used a pencil, but used the tip to engage the teeth of the spools and wound and unwound by drawing a circle in the air.

  • @alexramos2568
    @alexramos2568 Před 5 lety +10

    Pencils memes where made by kids pretending to be retro or maybe just trolls

  • @xXRedyzXx
    @xXRedyzXx Před 3 lety

    Hahaha I can't believe you said this video was dry, between you and LGR this felt like christmas, glad that you both have surpassed 1m subscribers since. cheers!

  • @jayducharme
    @jayducharme Před 4 lety

    You truly do make any subject interesting.

  • @HomeAutomationX
    @HomeAutomationX Před 5 lety +36

    Awesome...I remember doing this

  • @carlos81pimenta
    @carlos81pimenta Před 4 lety +4

    Whoever made that meme, clearly didn't live it.

  • @user-un4pr7kb4o
    @user-un4pr7kb4o Před 5 lety +1

    A pencil is not for rewinding a cassette, it's for *fixing* it - just like you've shown in the beginning. I can't remember how well the pencils worked when I use them back then, but for sure they get the job done - it doesn't have to be a perfect fit since the fixing process *just needs a few turns* . Another reason might be: *we didn't have any "Bic" pens* back in school, the ones we had was rounded and the cap doesn't fit into the cassette hole, but *a hexagon shaped pencil is very common* .

    • @compzac
      @compzac Před 5 lety

      I don't see the point even in a pinch though, as when I was a kid and used a walkman either I just didn't think about the rewind in the machine killing the battery or I would just use my finger. My pinky could fit just far enough in that i could then get the tape wedged and could use the centrifugal force method and 95% of the time the tape stayed on my finger granted after I pulled the tape off I had red spots from the splines on the reals but it worked when I was walking home and had switched tapes so I couldn't use the walkman to rewind my tape

  • @mranderson7932
    @mranderson7932 Před 5 lety

    Yes! LGR on Techmoan! These are two of my fav-our-ite things...

  • @bborkzilla
    @bborkzilla Před 5 lety +14

    "Made in England" - that IS old.

  • @thenewbgamer6416
    @thenewbgamer6416 Před 3 lety +3

    The fact that money was wasted on shirts showing a wrong meme.

  • @SilverSpade92
    @SilverSpade92 Před 5 lety +1

    Clints voice took me by surprise! Once I recognized it I jumped for joy!
    Well played.

  • @paulorobalo7216
    @paulorobalo7216 Před 5 lety

    Compact cassettes tape rewinders - quite a fantastic concept, I had to get acquainted with them through Techmoan! Entertaining and educational - and funny, specially the "pencil rewinding" myth busting!

  • @MatadorianGray
    @MatadorianGray Před 5 lety +8

    LGR on Tech Moan is like a crossover episode of The A-Team with Doogie Howser.

  • @espurious
    @espurious Před 5 lety +4

    Another great video. Any chance you could do a video on DVD rewinders one day?

  • @borayurt66
    @borayurt66 Před 5 lety

    I had the exact same blue/purple RadioShack batteries and the charger featured in the lower left at 3:08. Funny thing that one just locks up these memories and when you see a picture many years later, those memories are unlocked along with a lot of other associated, but not necessarily relevant ones :-) Thanks for yet another trip down the memory lane!

  • @eakfelhaber
    @eakfelhaber Před 3 lety +1

    Dropped by in 2020 to say you made it over a million subscribers! Yay!