C Kemper actually agrees with you! 😊. Here is his statement on the Kemper forum ... "To be complete, the manual does not say to profile at eq flat and gain max. This is merely a recommendation for a more authentic over-all LQP. You can still make a LQP at your desired sweet spot, and it will sound authentic in that very setting, just like a regular Profile. Only deviating far away from that sweet spot might induce more inaccuracies due to the reasons mentioned in the manual. If you set the bass knob at "2" for profiling and mirror it to "2" in the Profiler, deviations of the potentiometers taper or even the printed scale on your amp can cause a small error. While the unaltered Profile is spot on, you might experience a larger deviation, when you turn the bass knob on your amp and the Profiler to "10" for an A/B comparison. The small error might get large when deviating by most of the scale. Once your target amp is well mic'ed and warmed up, it might be a good advice to make that "most accurate setting" LQP, as well as two or three sweet spot LQP's (including the mandatory mirroring of the sweet spot settings in the Profiler), and keeping all of them. Then they can be compared against each other the next day, and they might all work perfectly and equally, at any settings."
Thanks for testing this. You are absolutely right that , if you are able to profile your own amp, the best way is just use your favorite settings and make a liquid version of that. Seems to me with the profiling done at 10, Kemper is catering more towards the heavy rock genres anyway. Probably the best way way in the future to use liquid profiling would be if you would be able to use boundaries : Like profile A with gain setting 2 and profile B with gain setting 7 or whatever, and let Kemper merge a liquid profile from these 2 base profiles. This way you can define yourself what is acceptable in the variations .
I suggest a video or at least a conversation. I appreciate your detailed scientific approach to Kemper’s latest upgrade. I see videos somewhat scoffing over the TRUE AUTHENTICITY OF given amp and how to the minuscule detail on the expected perfection of a given “liquid profile”. Is this same level of scrutiny applied to the modeling tech of a Quad Cortex or a Line 6 unit. I mean does a Soldano SLO act EXACTLY when making EQ adjustments on the modelers take on a QC or a Line 6 or an AX FX. R E A L L Y 🤔🤨? Thoughts please.
I don’t think the Profiling has changed at all. It’s the way it works after being Profiled that’s better. I’ve used new and old Profiles and the sound quality is the same.
C Kemper actually agrees with you! 😊. Here is his statement on the Kemper forum ...
"To be complete, the manual does not say to profile at eq flat and gain max.
This is merely a recommendation for a more authentic over-all LQP.
You can still make a LQP at your desired sweet spot, and it will sound authentic in that very setting, just like a regular Profile.
Only deviating far away from that sweet spot might induce more inaccuracies due to the reasons mentioned in the manual.
If you set the bass knob at "2" for profiling and mirror it to "2" in the Profiler, deviations of the potentiometers taper or even the printed scale on your amp can cause a small error. While the unaltered Profile is spot on, you might experience a larger deviation, when you turn the bass knob on your amp and the Profiler to "10" for an A/B comparison. The small error might get large when deviating by most of the scale.
Once your target amp is well mic'ed and warmed up, it might be a good advice to make that "most accurate setting" LQP, as well as two or three sweet spot LQP's (including the mandatory mirroring of the sweet spot settings in the Profiler), and keeping all of them.
Then they can be compared against each other the next day, and they might all work perfectly and equally, at any settings."
Thanks for testing this. You are absolutely right that , if you are able to profile your own amp, the best way is just use your favorite settings and make a liquid version of that. Seems to me with the profiling done at 10, Kemper is catering more towards the heavy rock genres anyway. Probably the best way way in the future to use liquid profiling would be if you would be able to use boundaries : Like profile A with gain setting 2 and profile B with gain setting 7 or whatever, and let Kemper merge a liquid profile from these 2 base profiles. This way you can define yourself what is acceptable in the variations .
I like your idea if merged. Liquid Profiles do seem to get that, but your idea sounds even better.
Thanks for sharing this info! Not a lot of Kemper help out there. Any chance of explaining how you Reamp the Kemper? Thanks Again
I suggest a video or at least a conversation. I appreciate your detailed scientific approach to Kemper’s latest upgrade. I see videos somewhat scoffing over the TRUE AUTHENTICITY OF given amp and how to the minuscule detail on the expected perfection of a given “liquid profile”. Is this same level of scrutiny applied to the modeling tech of a Quad Cortex or a Line 6 unit. I mean does a Soldano SLO act EXACTLY when making EQ adjustments on the modelers take on a QC or a Line 6 or an AX FX.
R E A L L Y 🤔🤨? Thoughts please.
The quality of tone interests me more than being exactly the same.
great comparison! could you do a comparison of profiling on the previous system vs the new system? It seems to me that now profiling can be better…
I don’t think the
Profiling has changed at all. It’s the way it works after being Profiled that’s better. I’ve used new and old Profiles and the sound quality is the same.