Brave Browser, Based or Botnet?

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  • čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
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Komentáře • 844

  • @kidkangaroo5213
    @kidkangaroo5213 Před 3 lety +2838

    "Based or Botnet?" is my favorite Internet Gameshow!

    • @e99g
      @e99g Před 3 lety +11

      Ë?

    • @nikolas8741
      @nikolas8741 Před 3 lety +9

      Yes! Let's build a botnet AI driven worm!

    • @Assault_Butter_Knife
      @Assault_Butter_Knife Před 3 lety +5

      @@e99g Й

    • @geist453
      @geist453 Před 3 lety +3

      SO I WOULD LIKE TO PERSONALLY CONGRATULATE MENTAL OUTLAW. ONE OF HIS VIDEOS WAS CORRECT AND ALMOST ON POINT AND CAN BE CONFIRMED. I AM TALKING ABOUT THE BRAVE BROWSER.....BASICALLY HE SAID NO DONT USE IT......................WELL I CAN FINALLY PUBLICLY TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT BRAVE BROWSER HAS BEEN LEAKING ONION ADDRESSES IN THE DNS TRAFFIC........HOW LONG FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF......BUT AGAIN WHAT DOES THIS TELL US? HOW MANY OF YOU ACTUALLY CAN CONFIRM THAT YOUR SHIT IS SAFE, PROB 99.9 BECAUSE YOU WATCH CZcams VIDEOS INSTEAD OF FIGURING SHIT OUT ON YOUR OWN.

    • @BobISuppose
      @BobISuppose Před 3 lety

      @@nikolas8741 Skynet: I am skynet! -T5000. The 5000 was the one in genesis and who was the hologram kid? Is he the T-5000 or a higher model?

  • @ragnarokmew820
    @ragnarokmew820 Před 3 lety +3915

    "Chrome is spyware"
    Hmm yes the floor here is made out of floor.

    • @VivekYadav-ds8oz
      @VivekYadav-ds8oz Před 3 lety +62

      Genius joke

    • @catchyname4353
      @catchyname4353 Před 3 lety +58

      that's actually a good joke, makes you wonder why Google named it chrome...

    • @julian-zg3js
      @julian-zg3js Před 3 lety +23

      @@catchyname4353 becau s It shiny like chromh

    • @catchyname4353
      @catchyname4353 Před 3 lety +3

      @@julian-zg3js duh

    • @darktimes9489
      @darktimes9489 Před 3 lety +8

      Waterfox is the one true Browser thats both open source and trustworthy. But I use Opera for watching online TV.

  • @NB-kc2cr
    @NB-kc2cr Před 3 lety +1833

    There's an effort in society to make people lazy and to not have any agency over their own life, and just go with whatever the default options are. Just go with the flow. Just go with whatever the agenda is, even though it's the worst thing for you. - Mental Outlaw

    • @KainiaKaria
      @KainiaKaria Před 3 lety +88

      Going with the flow as in go down the toilet drain with the rubbish.

    • @superior96
      @superior96 Před 3 lety +57

      It is completely true. Tech, meat and dairy industry, sugar...

    • @joakrimmcguitar6347
      @joakrimmcguitar6347 Před 3 lety +7

      It's almost like the people are alienated from reality.

    • @shineymcshine
      @shineymcshine Před 3 lety +66

      The logic here is bad, though. People are lazy. The effort is to take advantage of this trait. Much of the time is pushes garbage onto people sure. But don't think in absolutes, and get your logic straight.

    • @NB-kc2cr
      @NB-kc2cr Před 3 lety +27

      ​@@shineymcshine Not far off, although the tendency is always worsened by making laziness EASY. Back in the good ol' days, it was considerably harder, and those who thought of themselves as such probably wouldn't have been it to the same degree. And of course, to make a man do something difficult (to gain agency IE) requires he be willing to deal with something difficult. Thus, (excessive, as we easily see) convenience is an evil against self-development. Want people to not be lazy? Don't let them in the first place.

  • @geeshta
    @geeshta Před 3 lety +957

    "This could server as a redpill for your friends"
    friends are bloat collecting and sharing your private data

    • @64_Tesseract
      @64_Tesseract Před 3 lety +89

      Ah, yes, friends are the ultimate data collection tool used by big tech. First they convert them to their side, then indirectly extract information like from spies who don't know they're spies.

    • @--i-am-root
      @--i-am-root Před 3 lety +83

      @@64_Tesseract Facebook's shadow profiles turns this joke into reality.

    • @cooldud7071
      @cooldud7071 Před 3 lety +20

      The feds already have all of the information they want from you.
      I never get why people are so adamant on keeping their data private when they can get Ruby Ridged at any time they want, they'll make up some bullshit justification to kill you.

    • @noah4822
      @noah4822 Před 2 lety +28

      @@cooldud7071 in line with the " I don't have anything to hide so let them harvest my data" argument. Assuming they already have all your info therefore ill make my computer usage a open book isn't the best way to go about it. Even if you truly believe that don't you want them to work for it? Make the glowies jump through hoops at least.

    • @Preinstallable
      @Preinstallable Před 2 lety +2

      your pfp is a concern

  • @webbonyoutube
    @webbonyoutube Před 3 lety +598

    Librewolf might be worth checking out if you're too lazy to harden Firefox yourself.

    • @notorious_trollfaust
      @notorious_trollfaust Před 3 lety +7

      Damn! Thanks for the tip! :)

    • @logangraham2956
      @logangraham2956 Před 3 lety +33

      yes . librewolf has been very excellent in my opinion. but i always find myself ending up on default firefox again *shrugs* oh well XD

    • @kidkangaroo5213
      @kidkangaroo5213 Před 3 lety +21

      But hardening Firefox takes like 15 minutes tops, and most of it is just reading the options in FFprofile? Or is hardening Firefox something different than what I think?

    • @webbonyoutube
      @webbonyoutube Před 3 lety +49

      @@kidkangaroo5213 it can get really involved. Especially if you use profiles for things like i2p. Having a simple, preconfigured browser with custom branding is pretty cool.

    • @kidkangaroo5213
      @kidkangaroo5213 Před 3 lety +4

      @@webbonyoutube fair enough

  • @actualFix
    @actualFix Před 3 lety +520

    Yeah, this is a great summary.
    Brave is the best 'normie' browser.
    As for people not caring that Chrome is spyware, I've heard responses such as:"Yeah, but it's normal, everyone does that" said so nonchalantly, that it made me scared for our future, lol

    • @AcidiFy574
      @AcidiFy574 Před 3 lety +45

      Ask them if they're willing to send you the details of their browsing g history, social media accounts with passwords& allow you to go through them& publish a report to China
      & show them the horror of the social credit system

    • @insaneproductions9117
      @insaneproductions9117 Před 2 lety +31

      Ok downloading spyware shouldn’t be normal…. Everyone freaks out when they accidentally download spy ware on a strange website, so why is it ok for a big Business to do it?
      I bet it’s just cause everyone has the spyware they also should have it…

    • @HunterKiotori
      @HunterKiotori Před 2 lety +7

      Just ask these people for their bank info
      Everyone's doing it

    • @kenosabi
      @kenosabi Před 2 lety +4

      Stock up on canned goods.

    • @FanboyKisser
      @FanboyKisser Před 2 lety +6

      I had an exchange with my friend about those services where you send your saliva to get the results of your ancestry. Cool concept but when you get down to it, were those information be sold to any insurance company, your chance of getting insured for things like cancer or any hereditary disease is basically reduced to 0. Anyway, upon being presented with this revelation, she just straight up doesn't care and nonchalantly said the most edgiest thing "I don't care I'm gonna die anyway" or something along those lines.

  • @manafon5398
    @manafon5398 Před 2 lety +172

    Brave is pretty much the perfect entry point for people that start to become more wary of their privacy.
    Pretending that someone who used chrome all their life is going to switch out of nowhere to Tor and host their own instance is ludicrous, change comes over time.
    All those Brave users are people that probably don’t use chrome anymore,
    In a couple of years they may even switch to Linux as they get more accustomed to trying out new technologies, all in all, it’s a good thing.

    • @technic1285
      @technic1285 Před 2 lety +19

      The process you speak of is mine exactly. Really only using Brave, and when I move from my laptop to a desktop, it's going to be Linux. I don't feel comfortable getting another computer, otherwise.

    • @overlord2066
      @overlord2066 Před 2 lety +2

      I literally switched from chrome to tor, with no intermediary in between. Instantly.

    • @lagboat
      @lagboat Před 2 lety +24

      @@overlord2066 Tor is not a good browser for daily browsing, it's just for you to serf the web anonymously.

    • @overlord2066
      @overlord2066 Před 2 lety +3

      @@lagboat true

    • @TenSeconds_
      @TenSeconds_ Před rokem +1

      Just started this journey haha

  • @DarkGT
    @DarkGT Před 3 lety +85

    Some sites won't work with "hardened" browser settings and it can be pain in the ass to switch or white list them, In Brave you can change the shield setting from icon in the address bar.

    • @timi_r0
      @timi_r0 Před 3 lety +9

      In Firefox you have containers, you can use them with customized ones to use the sites that refuse to work!

  • @aramalatrash6147
    @aramalatrash6147 Před 3 lety +352

    I like Brave because it has a built in ad blocker and loads sites faster for my 100Kb internet oh and its lighter on ram

    • @aramalatrash6147
      @aramalatrash6147 Před 3 lety +63

      @勇樹 yes its stil chromiuom based so uses alot of ram but still lot less than chrome

    • @slayer5171
      @slayer5171 Před 2 lety +20

      I am using brave for daily use, I agree with you.

    • @invertedv12powerhouse77
      @invertedv12powerhouse77 Před 2 lety +22

      The ad blocker on brave is actually pretty good

    • @isyraqfirdaus5322
      @isyraqfirdaus5322 Před 2 lety +1

      I’m pretty sure it’s adblocker blocks youtube ads but i’m not 100% sure because I forget if I ever get adds

    • @shapelessed
      @shapelessed Před 2 lety +2

      @@aramalatrash6147 That's because chromium doesn't load all the additional spyware packages chrome does...

  • @user-ci7ob8oe2r
    @user-ci7ob8oe2r Před 3 lety +572

    Orange browser - bad.

    • @fernandomota7193
      @fernandomota7193 Před 3 lety +42

      So Firefox is crap

    • @VictorHugo-xw7qi
      @VictorHugo-xw7qi Před 3 lety +56

      @Maxblau Brave nightly is happy now

    • @lolcatwill
      @lolcatwill Před 3 lety +10

      le shill lion

    • @yalsonnoorcahayapratama3775
      @yalsonnoorcahayapratama3775 Před 3 lety +8

      red browser was good....

    • @deoxal7947
      @deoxal7947 Před 3 lety +3

      Firefox is too hard to use and this comes from someone who uses it all the time, not because of privacy but because suspend is borked in Chromium browsers with Nvidia graphics cards.
      github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/11678

  • @ricedanan
    @ricedanan Před 2 lety +48

    Started using Brave recently and I've noticed that the performance of my PC has drastically improved compared to my time using Chrome. Those spyware must be using a lot of memory.

  • @420malbania4
    @420malbania4 Před rokem +21

    Also of note, Brave's ad program is turned OFF by default. The user has to opt in to even see the ads. And the "Brave Rewards" box on the right of new tabs can be disabled at the flip of a switch, never to bother you again.

  • @vak2586
    @vak2586 Před 3 lety +144

    Could you make a video on "hardening" firefox now?

    • @myfavouritecolorisgreen
      @myfavouritecolorisgreen Před 3 lety +20

      follow this guide privacytools.io/browsers/#about_config . you could follow some stuff on arch wiki to increase performance as well :)

    • @johnnycochicken
      @johnnycochicken Před 3 lety

      He has one somewhere on the channel

    • @animepussy8356
      @animepussy8356 Před 3 lety +3

      It's called Tor.

    • @swindlesmccoop
      @swindlesmccoop Před 3 lety +9

      two good videos by him:
      "The First Site to Visit After Installing Firefox"
      "Maximize Your Browsers Privacy and Security With Zero Addons"

  • @AlexSmith-jj9ul
    @AlexSmith-jj9ul Před 3 lety +64

    These thumbnails keep getting better.

  • @falxie_
    @falxie_ Před 3 lety +50

    It's sad to me that people use the fact that they don't have total privacy online to justify making no effort at all

  • @theglowingone5643
    @theglowingone5643 Před 3 lety +98

    I really wish brave changed its wallet system. Wouldn't it be more privacy respecting if instead of signing in to Brave Creators and Uphold to be able to receive donations, you place a wallet.txt file into your servers directory and when a viewer retrieves the website, the wallet file gets sent back and every content creator can get donations without having to sign in to fucking Uphold.

    • @protennis365
      @protennis365 Před 3 lety +20

      The good think is it is open source, you can just make your own if you don't like it. That what happen to firefox when they went woke and that how waterfox was born.

    • @My_Old_YT_Account
      @My_Old_YT_Account Před 3 lety +7

      @@protennis365 pretty sure waterfox was born because Firefox didn't want to make a full 64 bit browser back in the day

    • @protennis365
      @protennis365 Před 3 lety +2

      @@My_Old_YT_Account true, but Firefox fire there creator that could have done 64 bit done today because they went woke.

    • @My_Old_YT_Account
      @My_Old_YT_Account Před 3 lety +5

      @@protennis365 pretty sure Firefox is fully 64 bit today (at least when you download it as 64 bit)

    • @protennis365
      @protennis365 Před 3 lety +1

      @@My_Old_YT_Account They are still a few generation behind in feature and going broke.

  • @arrtemfly
    @arrtemfly Před 3 lety +37

    idk lmao i use brave only when firefox gets into a crash cycle

  • @Rundik
    @Rundik Před 3 lety +27

    You can't remove brave's bloatware from their browser. I belive the issue on github is still open and it was created years ago. And I'm not gonna dig in the code to make a fork to get just a normal usable browser

    • @AntiWeebPenguin
      @AntiWeebPenguin Před 2 lety +7

      They actually took down a fork that removed the bloatware, i think it was called "Braver"

    • @enderdrag6491
      @enderdrag6491 Před 2 lety +12

      @@AntiWeebPenguin They didn't take it down they sent them a trademark notice because they felt the names were too similar. The fork you're talking about is now called Bold Browser

  • @greenjihad3390
    @greenjihad3390 Před 3 lety +47

    I would dare to argue that Brave is better than Firefox. Brave has an advantage since built in privacy/security features don't have the limitations that add-ons or extensions do. Plus also Brave does not transamit telemetry or phone home, whereas Firefox does. In order to stop it a user has to go into the browser and change the configuration. Then also consider Brave's random fingerprint protection which helps the browser blend in with others as opposed to FIrefox and others that do not.

    • @justalonelypoteto
      @justalonelypoteto Před 8 měsíci

      ​@user-bi1vv3vq3i that's technically right, but the point still stands. I myself appreciate privacy, but privacy is not the end-all-be-all for most people, there's a limit to how much inconvenience I'll tolerate. Brave is perfect for me, I have barely tinkered with it beyond custom filtering to remove that annyoing "enhanced bitrate" button from the youtube quality menu, yet pretty much out of the box I have randomized fingerprints, a synced password manager, youtube with mobile adblock and control over how strict I block scripts and other things. I'll use Tor / TAILS for things requiring more privacy or the closest I can get to sandboxing, but Brave is a great and comfortable "default".
      "It just works" shouldn't be underestimated, yes I and most people are logged in to some services, but the fact that such an accessible browser is that good at anonymization without further tweaking should be seen as a major win for general privacy, maybe companies will eventually stop embedding every tracker under the sun if one day most people are daily driving some browser that makes those all but useless

  • @drumpf4all
    @drumpf4all Před 3 lety +64

    I use Netscape on my 386 box.

  • @Johngle
    @Johngle Před 3 lety +32

    As someone looking to ween themselves off the botnet, what's the consensus on brave vs epic?

  • @Paco1337
    @Paco1337 Před 3 lety +31

    I use Brave for more than a Year now and it done me good,sad thing there is no sync thru devices but I guess that's good for security. It is best Browser for Windows.

  • @austinfailz
    @austinfailz Před 3 lety +42

    I'm dumping Firefox after their goofy blog post calling for MORE than deplatforming. Their post called for a bunch of spooky shit, but did not discuss what their endgame was, which is even spookier. So much for "net neutrality is important!" They fucking played themselves.

    • @SmokeyDope
      @SmokeyDope Před 3 lety +10

      Tis what happens when your main financial backer is google themselves. He made a video about sunless surf which looks to have potential. If youre fine with old school then links2 is a pretty cool concept (no javascript tho) Other than that there really isnt much choice as literally almost all other browsers are built with chromium framework.

  • @Lockjaw95
    @Lockjaw95 Před 3 lety +21

    "Digital voodoo doll of you" great analogy, gonna steal that one

  • @slavko5666
    @slavko5666 Před 3 lety +19

    Hardened Firefox guide?

  • @behrouzjavanmardi
    @behrouzjavanmardi Před 3 lety +55

    The problem with Firefox and the main reason I migrated from it is just slow browsing of internet. When I came to brave it did feel a bit snappy. That doesn't mean Firefox is bad but rather websites won't try the effort to be fully compatible with non-chromium based browsers.

    • @vulgoalias4050
      @vulgoalias4050 Před 2 lety +16

      As a web dev I can attest to that. Most of my customers don't want to spend money on optimizing for Firefox since overwhelming majority of web traffic is from chromium based browsers.

    • @EDARDO112
      @EDARDO112 Před 2 lety +3

      I use Firefox because I actually like it, haven't heard of privacy or anything when I decided to use it. I just like Firefox, i keep brave as a backup in case something just don't work but to be honest I'm happy with my Firefox 😁

    • @xxdarkzon3xx
      @xxdarkzon3xx Před 2 lety +6

      As web developer i really try to make my webs works on every system, except safari, that shit sucks... . BUT, you cant expect that everybody does the same, mostly because furefox user base is not enough to notice those little things so most just care about how things looks good on chrome (and that means every other chromium based browser) and look only important things on other browsers.

    • @vulgoalias4050
      @vulgoalias4050 Před 2 lety +9

      @@xxdarkzon3xx I share your hatred towards Safari. Man, I swear Safari is Internet Explorer of today.

    • @EDARDO112
      @EDARDO112 Před 2 lety

      @@xxdarkzon3xx To be honest that seems fine to me, i use firefox and i don't care. If shit goes wrong i have Brave installed.

  • @angelemmanuelperezmuniz1474

    I mostly use Brave because adblocker works out of the box. I got tired of CZcams interrupting the videos I watch. Play the adds at the beginning or the end but not the middle of a video. This isn't television. If it wasn't for that I wouldn't be depriving websites some revenue.

    • @glebb..3416
      @glebb..3416 Před rokem

      But is brave actually good for privacy? I Installed Brave on my phone, changed the settings to be more privavy focussed and use a VPN. Is Brave really not that good at privacy? Im a newbie so I dont know much about it.

  • @pranjal8707
    @pranjal8707 Před 3 lety +8

    2h ago youtube recommend your one vedio i saw i loved it and start watching your other vedio and hey you just put new one which I wanted , keep it up btw i love your content

  • @charliekahn4205
    @charliekahn4205 Před 3 lety +10

    Even though Blink is a great web engine, and so is the engine it's based on, Webkit, there are a couple of others still and they should never be abandoned. Firefox uses its own engine, and another, smaller one (can't remember the name) makes their own as well. But the thing with Firefox is that even if Mozilla goes under, the people who develop browsers based on it won't go away, and can continue to develop the engine. If Firefox does, IceCat won't.

  • @mariolis
    @mariolis Před 3 lety +11

    I use brave on my desktop , laptop and android phone
    I was using chrome in all 3 before the switch
    Im a lot happier without the adds and how fast everything loads

  • @apestogetherstrong341
    @apestogetherstrong341 Před 3 lety +58

    Based or botnet? Why not both?

  • @cyberp0et
    @cyberp0et Před 2 lety +5

    It's neat that Brave has got Tor incorporated as well.

  • @Calajese
    @Calajese Před 3 lety +33

    The affiliate program is dead? Luke Smith is going to be even more mad at le shill lion

  • @Xtrems
    @Xtrems Před 2 lety +5

    I use firefox on my pc and brave on my phone.
    I think the biggest selling point for brave in regards to normies would be the phone app, since it has adblock and looks and works exactly like chrome. You sell it as just that, and once you get them to install it you then tell them about the bonus of privacy they just got with absolutely no effort on their part.

  • @nastyyukari8861
    @nastyyukari8861 Před 3 lety +11

    Was looking forwards to this video since you've dunked on the browser before. When it comes to normie browsers, I never preferred Brave ™️ because it might be more privacy-respecting than other browsers, but just because of what Mozilla ™️ did to Brendan Eich desu.

    • @AcidiFy574
      @AcidiFy574 Před 3 lety +1

      Well, you can easily fork Mozilla
      Plus, there's the SUCKLESS browser, QuteBrowser& Falkon browser
      GNU IceCat, LibreWolf& WaterFox

    • @AcidiFy574
      @AcidiFy574 Před 3 lety +1

      @Dio Titus hell nah, I use LibreWolf, Firefox& maybe Falkon browser

    • @coldfront.
      @coldfront. Před 2 lety

      tmtmtmtm

  • @TechdubberStudios
    @TechdubberStudios Před 2 lety +4

    lol. it don't matter if they are open sourced or not, they could roll out binaries that are built by compiling they're own second, closed sourced, repository code. As most people don't compile their own binaries, "open-source" does not really mean anything anymore. Unless you compile your own binaries!

  • @linuxinside6188
    @linuxinside6188 Před 3 lety +19

    Ungoogled Chromium 😍

  • @ego-lay_atman-bay
    @ego-lay_atman-bay Před 2 lety +6

    I hate to say this, but my mom doesn't know that google chrome is spyware. I wish my whole family would just switch to brave.

    • @seronymus
      @seronymus Před 2 lety +3

      Switch it for them

    • @lagboat
      @lagboat Před 2 lety

      Tell your whole family so they install Brave, move all the data to Brave and uninstall Chrome.

  • @ivanyosifov2629
    @ivanyosifov2629 Před 3 lety +13

    Could you make a video about how to harden Firefox?

  • @DrakeDaraitis
    @DrakeDaraitis Před 3 lety +10

    “Virtual voodoo doll”
    I too saw the Social Dilemma.

  • @hyperpug2898
    @hyperpug2898 Před 3 lety +21

    Imagin using closed source software

    • @jaymesc4436
      @jaymesc4436 Před 3 lety +40

      But youtube is

    • @nate32396
      @nate32396 Před 3 lety +12

      Brave is open source though

    • @AcidiFy574
      @AcidiFy574 Před 3 lety

      @@jaymesc4436 you can use NewPipe or invidious

    • @charliekahn4205
      @charliekahn4205 Před 3 lety

      @@AcidiFy574 have you ever tried connecting an account to either of those?

    • @AcidiFy574
      @AcidiFy574 Před 3 lety

      @@charliekahn4205 no need

  • @JaeleNistra
    @JaeleNistra Před 3 lety +21

    the interesting thing about the tracking in brave is that it is there and it's so in your face you don't even realize what it is. BAT

    • @andrius799
      @andrius799 Před 3 lety +1

      So? At least i´m being rewarded.
      Also i can turn it off all ads on brave (including the ones from the brave network and the externals with the shield)
      So, what you will do with my "data" if i don´t watch your ads?

    • @JaeleNistra
      @JaeleNistra Před 3 lety +8

      @@andrius799 sure. what's that got to do with my point?
      i agree that bat is "more transparent" and it actually pays you back for giving your information.
      my problem is that people don't understand what's going on. BAT is a fully trackable privately held token. they are created attached to users, they are given based on attention to sites you visit. they are tracking you. PERIOD. you can opt out. you can choose not to use BAT (at all). this is a better situation than most tracking sure. but to say "brave protects you from tracking" or "brave doesn't track you" is not true. that's my whole point.
      if i had to extend my point further - brave may be the best "fully featured browser" we have in terms of privacy. but if the best surgeon is still killing 80% of his patients why am i the bad guy for calling it out? the difference between firefox and brave is basically nothing in terms of privacy.
      but i can't use youtube on mothra.

    • @pauljerome01
      @pauljerome01 Před 2 lety +1

      @@JaeleNistra yer data is already being used my google, least you get paid for it bro

  • @andrasbiro6604
    @andrasbiro6604 Před 3 lety +5

    What do you think about Rob Braxman's opinion on fingerprinting? I mean you stated in this video that regarding privacy a hardened firefox is the best choice, but the extensions and settings make it easier to fingerprint my browser... Am i missing something here?

  • @qaaris4280
    @qaaris4280 Před 2 lety +7

    Honestly, I only have Brave on my phone because it lets me play CZcams videos with my screen off or in the background.
    Basically, I'm not paying CZcams for features that should already be free, just so they can waste that money on ruining the platform even more.

    • @qaaris4280
      @qaaris4280 Před 2 lety

      No idea what that is.

    • @shekelboob
      @shekelboob Před 2 lety

      @@qaaris4280 better youtube client

    • @qaaris4280
      @qaaris4280 Před 2 lety

      Already got Brave, feel like it's all I need.

    • @shekelboob
      @shekelboob Před 2 lety

      @@qaaris4280 agree

  • @midimusicforever
    @midimusicforever Před 2 lety +19

    Brave adds, though not targeted, have actually made me find more interesting things than through targeted adds.
    As for what to use, why pick one? I use different browsers for different things. :)

  • @aaronkanala409
    @aaronkanala409 Před 2 lety +6

    creator of brave also got cancelled for being based
    another reason to use brave

  • @MrUploader14
    @MrUploader14 Před 2 lety +4

    I switch from chrome to brave on my desktop and phone, on Chrome my phone battery (which is a Samsung Z Fold 2) would go from 100% at 5AM to 5% at 6PM and that is from normal use (couple browser tabs, youtube at 480p, and screen brightness at 30-40%) once installed brave and disabled Chrome I now went from 5% to 40-45% makes you wonder how many background processes (aka trackers) were going on.

    • @coldfront.
      @coldfront. Před 2 lety +1

      yea i think ill switch too but i think it will be kinda hard for me to adjust from chrome to brave on mobile i got so used to chrome

  • @seancondon5572
    @seancondon5572 Před 3 lety +21

    A thing popped up in my mind - Router firmware. Stuff like OpenWRT, DD-WRT, and the like... I would be interested in your opinion on these.
    Incidentally, I'm considering trying to figure out if my cable modem has any kind of low level access, like a TTL serial port... by taking it apart (it's a SB6183, and i bought it outright, so the cable company can't tell me what to do, and I don't owe them SHIT for the modem!)

  • @statostheman
    @statostheman Před 2 lety +3

    That's why I block crypto mining on the router level.

  • @japa4551
    @japa4551 Před 2 lety +36

    Google: Lets tap this Guy with a drum profile pic
    My internet history when i'm not a Snowden-wannabe: haha Wheatley Crab!
    Me browsing on Tails with a VPN behind another VPN behind 12 proxies while using i2p and HTTPS on a System76 Laptop: Deep-Fried Water

  • @krisishere8137
    @krisishere8137 Před 3 lety +13

    brave is pretty based
    i think

  • @selectionn
    @selectionn Před 2 lety +5

    holy shit, that brave ad desktop shit is literally virus tier stuff, and url injection is even worse, why would you ever subject yourself to that? Might as well download malware willingly.

  • @badnamewolfie7789
    @badnamewolfie7789 Před 3 lety +8

    For now, sandboxed hardened firefox is enough for me.

    • @timi_r0
      @timi_r0 Před 3 lety

      @Nate Higgers I despise Mozilla, but Firefox is still a great open source full featured browser!

    • @guyman8282
      @guyman8282 Před 3 lety

      @@timi_r0 why do you despise mozilla?

  • @elclippo4182
    @elclippo4182 Před 3 lety +10

    4:05 Btw, who downloads Brave for Linux via an affiliate link?

    • @theglowingone5643
      @theglowingone5643 Před 3 lety +2

      Literally not a single soul does, thats why Luke Smith says the Brave Team owes him money

    • @bravesampson
      @bravesampson Před 3 lety

      Linux was never supported in the referral program due to technical limitations and more.

  • @danielbuenrostro
    @danielbuenrostro Před 3 lety +19

    If you're subscribed to this channel chances are you're mildly interested about online 'privacy' and if you watched the video that means you're more interested in privacy that the average Joe. So, why not taking 5 minutes to harden Firefox using the about:config rather that settle for this Botnet browser?

    • @HorrorUberAlles
      @HorrorUberAlles Před 3 lety +1

      Is there a good guide about this? I may or may not make the switch depending on the results.

    • @purgatoriprytania5382
      @purgatoriprytania5382 Před 3 lety +20

      1) This is not a botnet browser. 2) Firefox is little more than a smokescreen Google runs to avoid anti-trust and doesn't represent real competition. Besides, how much longer do you think they'll continue to allow about:config tweaking? (I say this as someone who uses FF myself)

    • @AcidiFy574
      @AcidiFy574 Před 3 lety

      @Maxblau watch the hated one

    • @AcidiFy574
      @AcidiFy574 Před 3 lety +1

      @@HorrorUberAlles the hated one, watch him

    • @purgatoriprytania5382
      @purgatoriprytania5382 Před 3 lety +2

      @@damvsv9452 I think that my German is not good enough to evaluate what this CZcamsr is saying 😂 That aside, I would generally agree that you can harden Firefox (or one of its forks) better than just about anything else on the market. But Mozilla slashing the threat-response team in the last round of layoffs makes me wonder about their security, as do some claims that they are almost a decade behind on sandboxing technology, etc.

  • @HGAMES69
    @HGAMES69 Před 3 lety +68

    It's literally based on Chromium

    • @RemotelyHuman
      @RemotelyHuman Před 3 lety +19

      We have to uphold that Chromium marketshare bro

    • @bravesampson
      @bravesampson Před 3 lety +11

      We're based on a patched-Chromium; we excise quite a bit, and proxy much of what remains: github.com/brave/brave-browser/wiki/Deviations-from-Chromium-(features-we-disable-or-remove)

    • @danielshrekoderbanner
      @danielshrekoderbanner Před 3 lety +5

      @@bravesampson why did you guys use url injection. I'm scared of the possibilities of what would happen if you weren't caught. Please focus on privacy and not money.

    • @vedaryan334
      @vedaryan334 Před 3 lety +9

      @@danielshrekoderbanner how would they continue developing if they don't get money? Although something dishonest like URL injection shouldn't be the way to go .

    • @danielshrekoderbanner
      @danielshrekoderbanner Před 3 lety +1

      I didn't say to not get money, I just don't think that should be their primary focus.

  • @bettercalldelta
    @bettercalldelta Před rokem +6

    For a normie, Brave is a very decent middle point in using more privacy respecting software. It's private while being as easy to install and use as chrome itself

  • @filipmilosavljevic8316
    @filipmilosavljevic8316 Před 3 lety +4

    Awesome vid as always. Can you please take a look at Slackware Linux and/or make a comparison between it and Gentoo ? How about a "Why use Gentoo" explenation vid ?

    • @voids.5917
      @voids.5917 Před 3 lety +2

      Either you want to download a distro that "jus werks"
      Or you build a that distro and have every break if you do it wrong
      Pretty much every distro except BSD, Gentoo and arch work right out of the box

  • @jaralara6429
    @jaralara6429 Před 3 lety +2

    "Digital voodoo doll". Brilliant metaphor for ad profiles, gonna steal that lol

  • @SultanAbdulRehman
    @SultanAbdulRehman Před 3 lety +12

    I was a life long chrome user, realised that it's full of spyware, and taking a ton of processing/RAM power - I switched to Vivaldi. Couple of days back I switched to Brave.
    It looks like I'll be looking at Ice Cat next!

    • @josephbrandenburg4373
      @josephbrandenburg4373 Před 3 lety +4

      Ice Cat has a bunch of JS-blockers built-in. So it might not run every site without disabling them. I think Mental Outlaw has a video about it, and he also had a video about hardening Firefox. Good luck with it.

    • @SultanAbdulRehman
      @SultanAbdulRehman Před 3 lety +2

      @@josephbrandenburg4373 I did watch that video about hardening Firefox, looks like I'll have to watch it again!

  • @sa-k
    @sa-k Před 3 lety +2

    I hate the go with the flow thing; it’s the worst in the real life or in the digital life

  • @kokop1107
    @kokop1107 Před 3 lety +5

    It's just ungoogled chromium with some extentions slapped onto it

  • @BBWahoo
    @BBWahoo Před 3 lety +6

    Great Lion of Zion!

  • @itryen7632
    @itryen7632 Před 2 lety +6

    If CZcamsrs shill for something, it's a botnet. Most likely.

  • @KiraSlith
    @KiraSlith Před 3 lety +5

    Why AM I still sticking to Chrome (and Chromium in Linux)? Purely because it has given me 6 years straight of just working without fuss, barring 1 experiment update back in 2018. Say what you will about other browsers today, but they only got better because Chrome threatened to obsolete them by merely doing it's job.
    Why is that such a big deal to me? Before Chrome, I grew up dealing with a crash prone Internet Explorer (IE4 if I recall), got a respite with Netscape before it died in 2008, which I replaced with Firefox and it's yearly memory leak inducing updates, during which times I tried Opera (which ran like ass and chewed resources) and K-Melon (still ran like ass but used almost NO resources). I HATED browsing the internet back then. Then in 2014 I decided to try Chrome, and never looked back.

    • @KiraSlith
      @KiraSlith Před 3 lety +4

      Addressing "Valid" Points:
      "Google Fanboy!" I'm only a fanboy for vital components of the Internet Age working reliably. The day Chrome inevitably breaks for a week due to Google's neglect or idiocy, I'll dump it like a sack of manure.
      "Firefox on linux is great! Y U No Use?" Yes I know that Firefox on Linux is far better than on Windows and has almost never had a memory leak, but I don't use Linux often enough to let it determine my primary browser.
      "But what about Google's politics/ideology?!" You mean the same nonsense basically all tech companies support nowadays? It's hard to avoid the backwards ideology of stupid rich white/blueish people with superiority complexes when they run all of the major companies, yes even Firefox.

  • @strange498
    @strange498 Před 3 lety +2

    Can I have best of both worlds?
    Hardened firefox with brave fingerprinting protection?
    If brave is opensource, why doesn't firefox just copy the fingerprinting protection?

  • @rompevuevitos222
    @rompevuevitos222 Před 2 lety +3

    Brave's token system doesn't even work
    A friend has tried to collect the earnings and it straight up wiped his tokens before he had the chance despite he having the option to auto give to sites off, as for me, i don't even get the option to pair a wallet/card with it, it's simply missing and pressing the collect button just causes the thing to load infinitely
    I still like it for what it does and i just turn off that option altogheter since there must be like 5 sites that support the support thing anyway

  • @X2Thunder
    @X2Thunder Před 2 lety +1

    The fact that I just had a brave software ad right when I clicked on this video.

  • @jjjjaja
    @jjjjaja Před 2 lety +3

    They glow in the dark

  • @sodaguy5835
    @sodaguy5835 Před 3 lety +10

    brave is a good browser

  • @unkn0wn_416
    @unkn0wn_416 Před 3 lety +11

    Honestly, setting up and using privacy software was a pain but it has been a good learning experience. I think I've done enough removing all soycial media accounts forever. End.

  • @Morality124
    @Morality124 Před 3 lety +19

    It's a shame, because from a security-design point of view Chromium is superior to Firefox, which is not very good (see the OpenBSD mailing list about how the priv-sep of Chromium made it easy to apply Pledge and Unveil while Firefox is still a mess - it was an OpenBSD developer who added that priv-sep to Chromium's original design in the first place).

  • @jholotanbest2688
    @jholotanbest2688 Před 3 lety +3

    I like the privacy nut community that this video very clearly belongs to. This is my first privacy nut video.

  • @sporasparel5032
    @sporasparel5032 Před 2 lety +2

    What an excellent thumbnail

  • @JoeBlow69938
    @JoeBlow69938 Před 3 lety +2

    Would you consider doing a video on what your version of a Hardened Firefox setup would look like? I'd be interested to see.

  • @double0cinco795
    @double0cinco795 Před 3 lety +20

    Not as based as this CZcams channel.

  • @halosam2963
    @halosam2963 Před 2 lety +9

    Used a highly customized FireFox for years. Recently switched to Brave however and I haven't look back. FireFox has been slowly getting worse and worse, it's performance has gone down the drain and it's gotten a little intrusive at times (not anything near the level of chrome, but I despise nearly any interaction I didnt seek out from my browser). Switched to a Brave and have been enjoying it. It's much faster, the built in features are really nice, and after customizing its settings and add ons as well, I'm pretty close to my FF setup. I have 0 regrets about switching, I only am sad at how FF has fallen.

    • @hehe42069-k
      @hehe42069-k Před 2 lety

      im surprised you were saying this 2 months ago, i was saying this 2 years ago lol.

  • @ksr1581
    @ksr1581 Před 3 lety +4

    What about Pale Moon? Is that good too? I tried to love Brave, but a few weeks after using it my laptop has gotten really slow afterwards. Mostly because of my poor specs.

    • @GymBossAniki
      @GymBossAniki Před 3 lety

      The one friend I have who uses pale moon has complained about the ad block options being out of date and ineffective even against youtube of all things due to it forking so far off from firefox that it causes that problem.

    • @fenn_fren
      @fenn_fren Před 2 lety

      Didn't they port Pale Moon to the PSP? lmao

  • @johnterpack3940
    @johnterpack3940 Před 3 lety +2

    Vivaldi has automatic ad and tracker blocking as well. And no controversy.

  • @emily_vaughn
    @emily_vaughn Před 3 lety +2

    Braves offices are located in the same building as one of the IBM's many offices, make what you will of that, definitely spooky though.

  • @jelle8055
    @jelle8055 Před 3 lety +2

    7:41 (yes I am a bit of a pc nerd) but how is firefox not user friendly?

  • @hibiscvs
    @hibiscvs Před 3 lety +57

    le shill lion.

  • @protennis365
    @protennis365 Před 3 lety +16

    I like opensource tech because if the company go under or become evil, you can launch you own. That is what happen to firefox when they fire there own creator and become woke because that is how waterfox was born. That was a great browser better than firefox. I like Brave, I still don't get why everybody hates this BATs feature because it support a lot creator and go against censorship. Visa, master card, and other credit card company can cut out fund to tech company and other creator except brave.

  • @PhantomDogman
    @PhantomDogman Před 3 lety +2

    Another thing I heard that Brave will automatically enable ads for new users and brave will earn crypto currency for that. But not sure if this happenes or not. Either way there isn't enough blackslash for it.

    • @bravesampson
      @bravesampson Před 3 lety +6

      Ad Notifications aren't automatically enabled, but Sponsored Images are. Sponsored Images are displayed on every 4th new tab. The first time you're shown one, there is also an invitation to opt-in to earn 70% of the associated revenue. Sponsored Images are a clean, non-intrusive manner of supporting Brave and the creators you enjoy online. If you don't opt-in, any associated revenue goes to Brave. If you do, 70% of the revenue goes to you (and automatically flows out to CZcamsrs and more as you browse). Ad Notifications, however, do not automatically appear. Those must be enabled by the user.

    • @bravesampson
      @bravesampson Před 3 lety

      @gametanz I'd be happy to join you on a Zoom call; these issues aren't familiar. I suspect something unique is impacting your experience.

    • @bravesampson
      @bravesampson Před 3 lety

      @gametanz Hardware Acceleration issues are usually only intermittently an issue, and only for a subset of users. It's often the case that your video card drivers are not updated. I see this rarely, but always happy to help if it impacts your experience.

  • @bosschad8273
    @bosschad8273 Před 3 lety +8

    A word about firefox mobile destroying it for android users would be great, last I checked you can't even use about:config anymore and it's just a terrible experience, I've been a long time firefox user but I don't trust the mobile version at all since the changes.

    • @mk72v2oq
      @mk72v2oq Před 3 lety +3

      You already can use about:config in the beta branch. They are restoring functionality, also with more and more addons support in every update, slowly but surely.

    • @SapphFire
      @SapphFire Před 3 lety

      For me it was the exact opposite.
      I really disliked using the old mobile version. It felt slow and was cumbersome to use.
      The new one is way faster, probably faster than Chrome on my phone. They also listened really well to critique about it and they have been improving the ui/ux based on that.

    • @bosschad8273
      @bosschad8273 Před 3 lety +1

      Cue the shills.

    • @misternobody6798
      @misternobody6798 Před 3 lety +1

      Try out Firefox focus on Android, it's not very customisable but it's good in terms of basic privacy safeguards.

    • @erdnussbier4260
      @erdnussbier4260 Před 3 lety +2

      lolwut firefox for android has always been shit why is that news

  • @elneco4654
    @elneco4654 Před 3 lety +2

    So it's possibly the safest Chromium-based browser that just werks?

  • @zephyrelizabeth965
    @zephyrelizabeth965 Před 2 lety +1

    I like how youtube doesnt even know what i want to watch, or what to advertise to me, its actually sort of more annoying to get ads that don't pertain, but I mean,

  • @peppermentbingus5025
    @peppermentbingus5025 Před 2 lety

    I got a brave ad at the start nice

  • @sammorgan31
    @sammorgan31 Před 2 lety +1

    I just don't want to see ads at all. If I require product, I will seek out product.

  • @boscovallejo-nagera6073
    @boscovallejo-nagera6073 Před 3 lety +1

    Would be a great disappointment if botnet simply due to the fact that their idea of changing how online advertising works is something I find is needed.

  • @nemonada3501
    @nemonada3501 Před 3 lety +1

    CZcams are terrible with the advertising algorithm, they haven't pointed a single thing that I am interested in at me yet. 🤣
    The video recommendations are getting slightly better, after 4 years.

  • @nunyabeezwax6758
    @nunyabeezwax6758 Před 2 lety +1

    How difficult is it to get a modified (like "Waterfox" or whatever) for Firefox to transfer settings, plugins, etc?
    Because I've always used Firefox but it annoys the hell out of me now.

  • @lord_khufu
    @lord_khufu Před 2 lety +6

    one thing from my experience about brave is it doesn't froze my desktop after like 30 minutes of web browsing without interacting with the homescreen(or desktop), something that happens with most other browser i've tried, firefox is most severe in term of this, have to wait for like 7 minutes until everything is interact able again, even then it's unresponsive and laggy af. This was taken place from a laptop with 2gb of ram and a 2014 dual core celeron processor btw, plus a 5 years old hard drive.

    • @louiesatterwhite3885
      @louiesatterwhite3885 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah there's your issues. 2gb of ram isn't enough, a hard drive is significantly slower with its page file, and you are using a celery processor

    • @lord_khufu
      @lord_khufu Před 2 lety +1

      @@louiesatterwhite3885 well it's easier to test which browser run better if you have this kinda machine lol

    • @loendsti
      @loendsti Před rokem

      @@louiesatterwhite3885 lol, not everybody could afford fancy 128GB ram and the 10000 bucks processors, mr. my ram and processor, are from 2014,.

    • @louiesatterwhite3885
      @louiesatterwhite3885 Před rokem

      @@loendsti 16gb of ddr4 and a ryzen 5 5600g can handle just about anything you care to throw about it and can be bought for $200 or less

    • @loendsti
      @loendsti Před rokem

      @@louiesatterwhite3885 not at where i am, it is expensive as heck. mr. configuration, you have mentioned, costs around 800 bucks, heck, kinda more than that. that processor alone more than 200bucks, here

  • @genechoi5245
    @genechoi5245 Před 3 lety +7

    greatest thumbnail of all time

  • @GenBumbleBee
    @GenBumbleBee Před 3 lety +1

    adblock on model doesnt work, i still get ads on my offbrand i watch :\ ads before a offbrand video plays. WTH

  • @Ultrajamz
    @Ultrajamz Před 3 lety +2

    I heard FF wants to remove users.js?

  • @cezlock8209
    @cezlock8209 Před 3 lety +2

    i don't really know what's going on nor do i care about cryptocurrency but brave mobile is pretty neat
    i get to use youtube for white noise while trying to sleep and brave blocks all the ads
    not too sure about pc though

  • @12q8
    @12q8 Před 3 lety +32

    The normie privacy browser.

    • @KrazyFalcon
      @KrazyFalcon Před 3 lety +6

      You don't gotta attack me like that

  • @mm1nt
    @mm1nt Před 3 lety +2

    so skip the clickbait, what's the TLDR is it good or bad? jesus

  • @seancondon5572
    @seancondon5572 Před 3 lety

    You know something else? I am curious: what do you do for physical fitness? Because honestly, you look like someone who could lift my watercooled PC (damn thing weighs 70+ pounds) with ease.