9 Flat Frames - One Session...This One Is Best
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This video needs timestamps
the use of the tnec frame as a hammer lol
These flat frame comparison videos are fun to watch. A full day on the Kaltik or Oysi would be good videos.
What he said
I’ll be doing an Oysi video soon for sure 🍻🍻
@@okthisisthelasttimeipromise that would be awesome financial advisor Ben.. totally not the guy behind the irollerboot channel Ben..
Shout out to Ben's legs for being absolute warriors and not exploding 🤣 Loved this video man. Really appreciate the insight and all the hard work you put into this one 🍻🍻
The best Flat Frame will always be the AxyzS Flat Frames. For sure
so glad u liked kaltik frames!!!
Wow Ben, 7 hours at the (busy) skatepark! That's commitment! Great video...
Ben out there putting in WORK for our viewing entertainment.
Killed it!
My favourite creator picking my favourite frame!!!
My day couldn't start better!!!
Amazing video...and an INSANE amount of hours there...can't imagine the hassle to edit this!!!
#KALTIK yeahhhhhhhhhhh
Awesome video Ben! That f4w shirt and looser fitting pant deff added some extra steeze points!
I’m so happy you liked the kaltiks. They are my favorite frame
Amazing video and very informative!! And great skating as always
Damn that's a lot of tricks in one day.. a real testament to your fitness and skill level. You're a beast mate 💪💪
First few tricks on the ledge in the them frames I was like "wow Ben is looking really stylish." IT'S THE PANTS! Thats the fit for you, IMO. The baggy but not too baggy look is my favorite. Super stylish and you can wear that style even when you're not skating - roll the cuff once or twice, make sure they are pressed or at least wrinkle-free. 👌
Also, this adventure seemed equal parts daunting and thrilling. I can't imagine how long you were out there. Great video, as always.
omfg i thought it was the frames too now that I look back that's so funny its the pants!!
Pantz got me too!
I thought so too! he looks right at home in that fit!
I was also thinking that dang those are nice pants. I need some of those pants now.
My thoughts exactly haha. I hate to say it, but baggies (even slightly) just make skating look better. Always have.
appreciate the effort you put into making this video
amazing work! great video
Great vid. Love the Oysi mediums myself. The other frame I like is the Fluid V. Wish it was in the rotation as many love it.
Agreed
Both great frames!! Love both of them
Super cool video!
Nice video! Oysi frames are the best for me
Great video, was hoping you would do flat frames. I have usd carbs with oysi med and are awesome but really wanted to know about the kaltik frames. Thanks Mr. RollerBoot
Excellent video! More videos focusing on part comparison would be cool. There is an audience for the customization scene that would love that I’m sure! Keep up the great work!
this was a lot of work, good stuff 💪
Great vid as always my inner nerd needs to clarify that UHMW is a polyethylene and I’ve heard some people report as being a bit sticky once worn in. Delrin is a brand name for a material called polyoxymethelene (Fingers crossed I’ve remembered how to spell that) its strong, low friction material that’s self lubricating. I use it for bushings and washers in my home shop, also makes insane anti-rockers.
Love this comparison. You could see subtle nuances in how the frames change your style, pretty cool to witness. I'm surprised with the result, I have to say, but that just intrigues me more. Do you think you're going to try flat out for a while? Outro screen and music are great as well
I have the kaltik mery munoz which are just the kaltik v1 but gray marble. I love them, they're my go to frames for aggressive. I have the featherlite 4 also, but i dont like them as much as the kaltiks. I had no idea the v2s were rockerable. Now I want to get them.
Squeaky or not you made them look all amazing 🔥
This is what I've been looking for! Thanks for doing this frame marathon. Also what pants are you wearing here?
I love my Oysi mediums and wanted to try a traditional flat setup, tried the TNEC frame but didn’t like them, was next going to buy the Kaltik V1 so thanks for confirming!
What didn't you like about the TNEC frames?
Two issues I've found with Oysi Mediums: 1) they are longer than many and that makes them feel more like skis, 2) you need 57mm or larger inner wheels or the frame hits the ground on tight turns and some hills/ridges. But they are super smooth on the rails, just butter.
Like the other viewers' sentiment/s, these videos are fun to watch and mega informative. Like I've said to you before, your style is steezy as well, my dude. One thing I've never been able to wrap my head around is aluminum frames. Like all rollers, sometimes I miss the h-block/center of the frame, and with aluminum frames that are FAR less forgiving than hard plastic. WAY back in the day, when USD was still called 'Upside Down,' I put aluminum grind plates on them for mini and vert ramp coping tricks, but for street, they were useless; considering that I was skating longer rails at that time (the 90s - to early 00s), which alludes to the aluminum plates being ideal, but they never performed like the differently colored bolt on grind plates.
Does anyone else remember bolting those on in the 90s? Talk about nostalgia! The colors signified faster or slower depending on the grind surface. Looking back, it's funny knowing that the upcoming youth have no idea how good they have it. Those days are long over and the skate progression is largely the reason the sport has changed so much. The soul plates were the size of our negative sides in this day and age. Anyway, I digress...
I've been skating the Ground Control "Featherlight 3" frames for quite some time and they're hands down THE industry leader, in my humble opinion. Does anyone else feel as though the FLT3 should've been in the mix? That stated, I exclusively roll anti-rocker, which definitely makes a difference. I don't know about anyone else, but I feel like I could tell a difference in Ben's performance, I.e., it looked smoother, not as much speed was needed, and the adjustment phase appeared natural. That's how I feel about the majority of GCs frames after having skated quite a few over the years. Awesome video, mate!
Bro sat down and typed out a retirement speech
I used to love the FLT3s but honestly after trying a lot of other frames the last few years I now find they feel soggy underfoot. I also have grown to love skating flat with a nice rocker worn in so I couldn't go back.
Holy shit u put a lot of effort into this video. Thanks man!
You should def try the Kaltik V2 if like the V1 and Oysi that much. V2 has the "wish rocker" while maintaining the good bits from the V1.
I had the Kaltiks on a pair of M12’s back in 2015. I loved them and can’t remember why I didn’t keep on skating them 🤔
Surprised they were your favorite but it shows you were being objective because they are ugly and one would assume the plastic wouldn’t perform as well as the metal frames.
great video, can I know what camera you use? Love the subtle software pan/zoom to make it look dynamic
Great vid Ben. Great channel and you one of the reasons me and my friends back on blading. Keep going it’s inspiring. Hi from Israel Bro.
I was very surprised to see you pick Kaltik as your #1 but I have yet to try them! I’m really digging the K2 Unnatural’s for my size foot and it’s 290mm length
What's ur foot size fam?
@@davidillerbrun8146 14 with tge largest Roces boot
You should try the Hexi v2 wall frames on the 50 50 core system.
What I would love to see is a comparison of how solid the frames mount to the skate. LIke how much do they bend when applying sideway force. Maybe some jig to get the same force to really see how the powertransfer is. Good test though. Testing nine different frames in one session might be too many, since you get tired.
I’m super surprised that symetrics are that far down the list. Would have been interested to see how the new 50/50’s ranked on this list.
I honestly can't believe the kaltik v1s took it, butt I love the oysi medium frames. I'm not a big fan of the super deep groove on the kaltiks, butt I heard if you grind or sand the 2 pointy parts on the bottom of the frame at end of h blocks they are better on ledges. I'm willing to sacrifice a little wheel bite protection for a more favorable groove. Great video though 🙏
i liked the conclusion since i ust bught a pair of oysi medium frames. i fkn love them but when i was picking out frame i hd my eye on the kaltik nylons becuse of the groove and wheel bite protection
Awesome. I recommend you to try the larger Oysi frames if you have the chance. Is the one that I use and they are completely awesome. With 72mm outside and 60mm inside, they are freaking fast.
I would like to see your thoughts for it.
Awesome video, you should do the same with antirocker setup too.
I got the Oysi Medium recently and love them, but now I want to try the classic (larger) ones as well. 😅
@@tobyschnabelhuber The oysi Classic is a beast. If you like speed, they are the ones. It gives zero efforts on skateparks.
@@FernandoGraeff I ordered some a couple of days ago. Excited to try them once they arrive.
@@tobyschnabelhuber I love it, in big skateparks they are awesome, and in small skateparks it gives 0 efforts to skate arround. Super awesome. For me at least, gives the time to concentrate and full comit to the trick, once I don't need to push myself into the obstacle, the ramps and the wheels do the job by themselves
@@FernandoGraeff just came back to say I got the Oysi classic now and fully agree with you. They are great!
I've only skates Roces/Valos frames flat for years at this point. Man, these frames here look great and I would love to try Solas one day, but I see the price and then look at how long I can out of a single set of Roces frames and... I dunno, I just never make the jump. I will deal with the weight and having to groove them in a ton for less than 20 bucks forever, I guess.
As old as they are, there is no better frame for flat than the kaltiks ... many underestimate them, even without having skate yet with the kaltiks. No one noticed, but it is the oldest flat frames that still sell in the market and many brands try to do something like Kaltik in the wheel bite.
The fluid v should have been there they are better than most imo
First like and comment.
And that's all you could come up with?
Haha jk
Do you have a place to find wheels in San Antonio?
I think you meant Delrin, not Derlin. Those Masterblades look sick!
In addition I would love to see Fluid V's and Primes with some of the core frame market offerings.
Yeah the market has sone good stuff like the thursday stuff and dark mage ones
Try next time Kizer Slimline 2, they're awesome
I know people submitted these frames, but I would be very curious how the Fluid 5 and the Diridari frames stack up against the other 9. In fact didn’t you skate the Diridaris flat before?
Edit: I went back and checked and in fact you are right, he skated the diridaris before. I really like those but skate the Oysi Medium currently.
Oysi gang!
Oi oi 🙌
Just a side note for everyone. The osyi med frame wheels are very limited in types. Very time consuming to try to find something different then the apex and dead wheels.
Mushroomblading Wheels has got you covered nowadays with the 65s and 60s (or the 72s for the classic Oysi)
Dead 58/92 + Fifty-50 65/90 is an awesome combo for the medium oysi
fifty 50 makes the correct sizes for medium frames. I have them in mine and they're great
If you have some skate shop sites and you know what you're looking for it's no more time consuming than selecting any new wheels. So people don't be put off trying them out if you haven't yet!
There's a lot of different sizes you can use as well. I used to go pretty standard and go 65mm and 58mm. Did 64mm and 60mm before as well for a crazy rocker out the box. And last time I used them with 68mm and 60mm (the biggest you can really go and with wheel wells) and once I wore a rocker in they were golden.
why adept doesn t make an anti rocker frame ... i don t get it
Tom Moyse @19:57
bring a cordless drill next time.
No fluid 5s ?????
Are the Oysi frames able to be configured with a slight rocker or is it just flat?
It's all dependent on the wheels used, but a lot of people do ride them with a rocker. You can see a few different wheel combinations using Oysi's rocker calculator here: www.oysius.com/rocker-calculator/
Out of all these I would go the Oysi frames for sure, still you missed testing the best flat frame ever made, the Fluid V's.
Definitely should have tested Fluid V's they are one of the most popular frames.
Fluid V's are sooo good.
They’re fantastic broken in. Trying to make sharp turns or carve on brand new ones is risky business.
@@coreyenglish8706great for cess-slides though xD
My fav flat frame is the GC Mega, you can ride flat 64 with it. It's pretty high so its not a 'cheat' frame. The FLT4 looks pretty similar but with smaller wheels, don't know if they feel the same.
i want to get into the masterblade frames, but the price…
I had a pair, I bought used, they were cool but slow just like he said and they felt weird accelerating at least on the size small
Skate flat go splat
haha xD
So no more intuition in the faction?
People stay sleeping on the Keizer Slimline frame! how come its not in there.? H-block is huge compared to the them frame..
Because a deep wide groove actually sucks for wheel bite protection
axyzs best
What do you think about the fluid V?
No diridari or fluid 5 😢
I would go for fluid v over diri dari but that’s personal preference. Fluid Vs are amazing for the price, diri dari don’t slide great and are expensive
Full skatepark of obstacles -- skateboarders: yo put this trash bin down, lets skate this
Or “let’s play a game of flatland skate in front of the ramps so no-one else can skate anything” literally what they do if I go into the city centre here
In the end it´s not the hardware that matters
That's one of the takeaways I had here. If you're good (and Ben is good), you'll be able to do just about anything you want no matter the frame. Makes me feel a little silly for going back and forth trying to find one that's just right, but at the same time life is short and you should skate what you like the most.
Appreciate the work you put into this one, Ben!
Why do people call Oyisi frames "wish" frames?
Because that’s how Oysi is pronounced apparently
Might just be me but I think you are over editing with that many kens burn zooms and zoom follows, a little nauseating.
Definitely just you
No one else has commented this
Cheers
I agree it is a little much, I would prefer a few more static shots
Love hearing the skateboarders in the park get hyped when you lace a trick!
SYNERGY
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Gosh gee willikers that be a lot wheelie boot frames I tell you what. 🛼🛼🛼
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