Sean, I really love your podcasts, books, and speeches - I think you’re one of the best science educators of our time! If I could make a humble suggestion regarding the podcast: could you perhaps consider filming the discussions for CZcams (where possible)? In some cases it might be more engaging to also see you discussing these issues with the great minds of our time.
I proposed this when he very first began these podcasts a couple of years ago and didn't get any feedback from him, but some listeners replied that it's not important and something to the effect of its not feasible for him since these are just uploaded directly to iTunes or whatever and he's not any kind of video editor, therefore it's just an unreasonable request.. I countered that objection by pointing out the fact that there are undoubtedly countless video editors in training that are fans who would love to do it for free and this was met with yet another objection stating no one is foolish enough to render that level of service for free, even if they are fans of Sean personally... I retorted that volunteers who would undertake this task weekly could also be recruited from university and offered the role as a basis of internship, increasing the value above the mere fact that they would be honored to donate their time to this endeavor for the mere accomplishment as well as prestige of being named in the credits, and acknowledgement is plenty wage rendered for the time and effort spent, per se.. And not sure where the conversation went from there but I effectively capitulated and accepted the fact that Sean is no dummy and if he wanted to incorporate any video it wouldnt even be a matter of finding the help but he'd figure out the best way to make it happen and since he hasn't he must not want to, if that makes sense..? So, for what it's worth, I wholeheartedly agree with you and stated a couple of years ago that the level of engagement as well as comprehension and recall of the information learned from these podcasts would be so significant that it should simply be taken for granted that he move toward this goal immediately before he got too comfortable with this audio only format which, it seems, has fully taken root at this point and now even less likely to change, unfortunately ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@88_TROUBLE_88 thank you for the detailed reply! I really dislike it when I post a well thought out response, and it feels like I’m talking to a wall (this seems to happen in the YT comments section more so than eg Twitter). And I’m not expecting the video’s creator to reply, but YT seems to suffer from a lack of interaction… Therefore I wanted to at least acknowledge your reply with a reply :) More relevantly however, I fully agree with your sentiment and I wouldn’t waste time debating with individuals who think Sean wouldn’t have 100 video editors, looking to start out, happily donate their time. I can think of so many excellent podcasts that benefit from the visual aspect, but obviously the format is his choice so if he’s more comfortable with audio, so be it.
@@xntumrfo9ivrnwf sucks that he can't be convinced that it would be worth the effort, tho because it absolutely without question would reach so much further with any kind of visual aspect at all.. Hell, even if he let artists do short animations for some of the trickier concepts before releasing these, they'd have such greater impact =/ Anyway yeah man, thank you for the reply too and I agree this forum is kinda set up around a comment system that kinda encourages snarky snide quips instead of actual conversation but I suppose they're not trying to have reddit or a Chan style system in place due to the problems that would undoubtedly emerge so this is at least better than nothing like most apps and websites these days - everyone's too afraid of controversy or offending some fragile bleeding heart that they simply remove the entire comment section and leave the users with no way of engaging besides subreddits I guess and I'm glad we can at least post here 👍🏻
@@88_TROUBLE_88 Yup! Although I'm not sure that's the problem (re. comments in YT videos) - what I mean is that e.g. on Twitter or Reddit, it's common to have some reply / engage in discussion, even if the topic is touchy, but YT is just weird... 99% of the time, it's as though I didn't say anything at all (which discourages me from posting, etc.) Anyway - have a great weekend!
Listening to this for a second time after reading the book. It's a great distillation of the whole period which shows great parallels to what we have seen over the past few years in the US
I love the way Sean Carrol does a show about Trump without ever mentioning him. Those that forget history are condemned to repeat it’s mistakes. Trump hasn’t forgotten history, he never learned it in the first place.
I just found this mindscape podcast - I haven't listened yet but a m hoping that this podcast at least mentioned the Grachi brothers and their land reforms - woah - just heard their names mentioned - got to listen.
I need mentor like you, If I we're with you I would have changed the world... You are the best physicist of our age dear Sean..... I learned a lots from you....
This is the final straw. I feel I have almost no other choice but to become a patreon member because it is time for me to put up or shut up -your podcasts are some of the best around and should be vastly more popular than they are.
Would you consider trying to make some of these with video as well ? Either by being in the same location as the interviewee, or making sure both users are able to video conference with reasonable quality. For me, a visual component adds a lot of value, and makes it easier to focus on what's being discussed.
There's nothing like listening to a podcast and playing a kicked back game to help maintain some that focus. I get what you're saying, and I'm sure he has considered making video. But I'm doubtful that at this point and if ever that he'll do video. A lot of time goes into making just the audio versions as he stated in the intro. Video even more so. He's also working on a book that he plans to publish by September of this year. All of this on top of being a research professor at Cal Tech. Personally, I don't think the guy sleeps.
He said he has no plans on doing it anytime soon. It's too much work and he has a full-time job as a prof at Caltech. There's much more effort involved in video.
Thanks for pointing out the bribery difficulty with verifiable voting. Just added extra little step to the personal receipt/ public matrix vote securing method I have been pondering. It makes it so you can't trace back the receipt with out knowing a random selection done while voting because other wise it could refer to several different votes.
In this podcast, Sean and his guest spoke 2271 unique words, and a total of 16,103 words spoken in 5465 seconds. This averages to 2.947 words per second. The word 'roman' was spoken 80 times, the word 'republic' was spoken 88 times, and the word 'democracy' spoken eight times. More info available upon request ...
I appreciate this episode. You know about the Twins and the wolf. You Know that that "Republic" endured five centuries. IT was the highest expression of Roman Civilization, including the "Cursus Honorum" that agglutinated the Servior of the City, from Edis, passing from the fundamental Praetor Urbanus and Praetor Peregrinus till Consulate and extraordinary magistracturesblike "Ditadura" which hadv to be voted upon, like now in Covid'19 decisions that conjtend with Constitutional Precepts.. The word "Doctrine" as fundamental source of Right regarding the Patrio Familias order, is the actual equivalent of "Doctrine" papers, studies and analysis of jurisdictional decisions, who may, for instance, if voted by Supreme Courts, have the value of Law, as in Constitucional revision. So, Iulianus, Julianus, prolificous Roman Jurists, have published, during the Republic, the most studied oeuvres of"Jus Romanum. "Ius Romanun est Constans et Perpetua Voluntas suum cuique Tribuendi" Valid on European French-German jurisdictional system, from Napoleon Civil Code of 1804- to the "Algemeiner Teil" German's code of 1900. YourvRule of precedent system is basically different. But let's return to the matter at stake. Basically the Republic ended with a "Et Tu, Brutus" The Edit of Caracala, Imperium phase, has disrupted all that equilibrium. around 212 C.E. So you may judge the slow process of deviance and decline... When we criticize the Rule " Magister Dixit"Trivium and Quadrivium, We should reflect and think that until this very date, there is no arrange that allows the unprepared student to grow. You should speak more of Marcus Aurelius than Tiberius. And consider the Apex of Roman Civilization the REPUBLIC. When the Edit of Caracala failed, not giving justice, The Oral Form Of Decision that included a "Non Liquet" (not liquid, decision not possible) The Western Imperium Fragmented, Leaving an Oriental Empire turned Christian with Justinianus... And we get in questions like Santa Sofia Mosque adjudication... Your Conversation versed on Empire phase. There are so many emperors, But Empire is Rome Decaying from Republic, Even there was a slave always saying "you are only a man" Tiberius and his house on Capri. You forget that. "Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely" Best Regards.
It could also be argued that the Roman Republic lasted as long as it did essentially because of human slavery on which their economy relied heavily upon.
i disagree with the comment that is simplistic to 'compare everything to the Nazis'. By that I assume Sean means that the lessons of WWII provide a rather fractional perspective given all that has happened in the past. I think, rather, that WWII is the point in time where the dialectic strands of history collide and result in a fundamental synthesis, from which a summary collection of lessons is available. Understanding the causes and consequences of the second world war can teach us everything that we really need to know about history (despite the fact that the rest of it is very interesting also). I am not Jewish but I understand perfectly well why survivors of the holocaust say "Never forget". The rest of history is inconclusive.
in the second half, regarding Octavian/Caesar Augustus, I think you just told any budding dictator out there what and who to study in order to learn how to turn a putative democratic republic into a one-man empire. Seriously, it was great.
Passing along Sean's recommendation for Dan Carlin's Hardcore History offering - Death Throes of the Republic Series, which I've not yet listened to, yet the reviews have inspired me to do so ASAP! - www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-death-throes-of-the-republic-series
As a history/politics nerd, I found this fantastic. I’m glad to see you’re branching out into all sorts of topics. Thanks. Keep it up!
"it's better to do nothing than the wrong thing"... No truer words have been spoken. If only we could remember that
This was in the conversation context of the State making policy.
What if doing nothing is the wrong thing?
What if the wrong thing is doing nothing better?
History is a window, to other civilizations. And not an exact science. so, a lecture like this is priceless, to me.
Sean, I really love your podcasts, books, and speeches - I think you’re one of the best science educators of our time!
If I could make a humble suggestion regarding the podcast: could you perhaps consider filming the discussions for CZcams (where possible)? In some cases it might be more engaging to also see you discussing these issues with the great minds of our time.
I proposed this when he very first began these podcasts a couple of years ago and didn't get any feedback from him, but some listeners replied that it's not important and something to the effect of its not feasible for him since these are just uploaded directly to iTunes or whatever and he's not any kind of video editor, therefore it's just an unreasonable request..
I countered that objection by pointing out the fact that there are undoubtedly countless video editors in training that are fans who would love to do it for free and this was met with yet another objection stating no one is foolish enough to render that level of service for free, even if they are fans of Sean personally... I retorted that volunteers who would undertake this task weekly could also be recruited from university and offered the role as a basis of internship, increasing the value above the mere fact that they would be honored to donate their time to this endeavor for the mere accomplishment as well as prestige of being named in the credits, and acknowledgement is plenty wage rendered for the time and effort spent, per se.. And not sure where the conversation went from there but I effectively capitulated and accepted the fact that Sean is no dummy and if he wanted to incorporate any video it wouldnt even be a matter of finding the help but he'd figure out the best way to make it happen and since he hasn't he must not want to, if that makes sense..?
So, for what it's worth, I wholeheartedly agree with you and stated a couple of years ago that the level of engagement as well as comprehension and recall of the information learned from these podcasts would be so significant that it should simply be taken for granted that he move toward this goal immediately before he got too comfortable with this audio only format which, it seems, has fully taken root at this point and now even less likely to change, unfortunately
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@88_TROUBLE_88 thank you for the detailed reply! I really dislike it when I post a well thought out response, and it feels like I’m talking to a wall (this seems to happen in the YT comments section more so than eg Twitter). And I’m not expecting the video’s creator to reply, but YT seems to suffer from a lack of interaction…
Therefore I wanted to at least acknowledge your reply with a reply :)
More relevantly however, I fully agree with your sentiment and I wouldn’t waste time debating with individuals who think Sean wouldn’t have 100 video editors, looking to start out, happily donate their time. I can think of so many excellent podcasts that benefit from the visual aspect, but obviously the format is his choice so if he’s more comfortable with audio, so be it.
@@xntumrfo9ivrnwf sucks that he can't be convinced that it would be worth the effort, tho because it absolutely without question would reach so much further with any kind of visual aspect at all.. Hell, even if he let artists do short animations for some of the trickier concepts before releasing these, they'd have such greater impact =/ Anyway yeah man, thank you for the reply too and I agree this forum is kinda set up around a comment system that kinda encourages snarky snide quips instead of actual conversation but I suppose they're not trying to have reddit or a Chan style system in place due to the problems that would undoubtedly emerge so this is at least better than nothing like most apps and websites these days - everyone's too afraid of controversy or offending some fragile bleeding heart that they simply remove the entire comment section and leave the users with no way of engaging besides subreddits I guess and I'm glad we can at least post here 👍🏻
@@88_TROUBLE_88 Yup! Although I'm not sure that's the problem (re. comments in YT videos) - what I mean is that e.g. on Twitter or Reddit, it's common to have some reply / engage in discussion, even if the topic is touchy, but YT is just weird... 99% of the time, it's as though I didn't say anything at all (which discourages me from posting, etc.)
Anyway - have a great weekend!
I, too, love these podcasts. My lesson from the story of Tiberius is that an excess of engagement and rhetoric can end poorly.
Listening to this for a second time after reading the book. It's a great distillation of the whole period which shows great parallels to what we have seen over the past few years in the US
Fantastic! The costumed masses can’t find this content!
It would also be fantastic to have non western philosophers, historians and scientists on this podcast.
I love the way Sean Carrol does a show about Trump without ever mentioning him. Those that forget history are condemned to repeat it’s mistakes. Trump hasn’t forgotten history, he never learned it in the first place.
If he wanted to Talk about Tramp, better organise one about Mussolini.
Laertes Indeed said the troll who doesn’t use their real name pffffft
I love these longer podcasts!
This was a great episode!
Ok,
I just found this mindscape podcast - I haven't listened yet but a m hoping that this podcast at least mentioned the Grachi brothers and their land reforms - woah - just heard their names mentioned - got to listen.
I need mentor like you,
If I we're with you I would have changed the world...
You are the best physicist of our age dear Sean.....
I learned a lots from you....
This is the final straw. I feel I have almost no other choice but to become a patreon member because it is time for me to put up or shut up -your podcasts are some of the best around and should be vastly more popular than they are.
Would you consider trying to make some of these with video as well ? Either by being in the same location as the interviewee, or making sure both users are able to video conference with reasonable quality. For me, a visual component adds a lot of value, and makes it easier to focus on what's being discussed.
There's nothing like listening to a podcast and playing a kicked back game to help maintain some that focus. I get what you're saying, and I'm sure he has considered making video. But I'm doubtful that at this point and if ever that he'll do video. A lot of time goes into making just the audio versions as he stated in the intro. Video even more so. He's also working on a book that he plans to publish by September of this year. All of this on top of being a research professor at Cal Tech.
Personally, I don't think the guy sleeps.
He said he has no plans on doing it anytime soon. It's too much work and he has a full-time job as a prof at Caltech.
There's much more effort involved in video.
Charismatic Christopher Walken sound-a-like talking about the Roman Empire? Perfect hour and a half
Needs more prolonged "aeahh" tics to get there
fascinating discussion. thank you mr. carroll!
Another great show. Go Juno!!!
Great episode!
But seriously, what have the Romans ever given us?
czcams.com/video/uvPbj9NX0zc/video.html “...the roads go without saying...” - (sorry for being slow in picking up your meme-request)
aha, a jester
Thanks for pointing out the bribery difficulty with verifiable voting. Just added extra little step to the personal receipt/ public matrix vote securing method I have been pondering. It makes it so you can't trace back the receipt with out knowing a random selection done while voting because other wise it could refer to several different votes.
In this podcast, Sean and his guest spoke 2271 unique words, and a total of 16,103 words spoken in 5465 seconds. This averages to 2.947 words per second. The word 'roman' was spoken 80 times, the word 'republic' was spoken 88 times, and the word 'democracy' spoken eight times. More info available upon request ...
Thanks, Rain Man.
"His private resources include Egypt" What a baller
Thanks for the amazing podcasts - would love to hear Preskill/Kitaev come on (and maybe talking about anyons ... or anything else!) ;)
I appreciate this episode. You know about the Twins and the wolf. You Know that that "Republic" endured five centuries. IT was the highest expression of Roman Civilization, including the "Cursus Honorum" that agglutinated the Servior of the City, from Edis, passing from the fundamental Praetor Urbanus and Praetor Peregrinus till Consulate and extraordinary magistracturesblike "Ditadura" which hadv to be voted upon, like now in Covid'19 decisions that conjtend with Constitutional Precepts.. The word "Doctrine" as fundamental source of Right regarding the Patrio Familias order, is the actual equivalent of "Doctrine" papers, studies and analysis of jurisdictional decisions, who may, for instance, if voted by Supreme Courts, have the value of Law, as in Constitucional revision.
So, Iulianus, Julianus, prolificous Roman Jurists, have published, during the Republic, the most studied oeuvres of"Jus Romanum. "Ius Romanun est Constans et Perpetua Voluntas suum cuique Tribuendi"
Valid on European French-German jurisdictional system, from Napoleon Civil Code of 1804- to the "Algemeiner Teil" German's code of 1900.
YourvRule of precedent system is basically different.
But let's return to the matter at stake.
Basically the Republic ended with a "Et Tu, Brutus"
The Edit of Caracala, Imperium phase, has disrupted all that equilibrium. around 212 C.E.
So you may judge the slow process of deviance and decline...
When we criticize the Rule " Magister Dixit"Trivium and Quadrivium,
We should reflect and think that until this very date, there is no arrange that allows the unprepared student to grow.
You should speak more of Marcus Aurelius than Tiberius.
And consider the Apex of Roman Civilization the REPUBLIC.
When the Edit of Caracala failed, not giving justice, The Oral Form Of Decision that included a "Non Liquet" (not liquid, decision not possible)
The Western Imperium Fragmented,
Leaving an Oriental Empire turned Christian with Justinianus...
And we get in questions like Santa Sofia Mosque adjudication...
Your Conversation versed on Empire phase.
There are so many emperors,
But Empire is Rome Decaying from Republic,
Even there was a slave always saying "you are only a man"
Tiberius and his house on Capri. You forget that.
"Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely"
Best Regards.
FASCINATING - I am studyiing chinese history and it'a interesting how it pareleles Roman history
It could also be argued that the Roman Republic lasted as long as it did essentially because of human slavery on which their economy relied heavily upon.
When I first read the Video Title I read Edwin Watts, I thought is this the guy the operates all the Golf shops??
i disagree with the comment that is simplistic to 'compare everything to the Nazis'. By that I assume Sean means that the lessons of WWII provide a rather fractional perspective given all that has happened in the past. I think, rather, that WWII is the point in time where the dialectic strands of history collide and result in a fundamental synthesis, from which a summary collection of lessons is available. Understanding the causes and consequences of the second world war can teach us everything that we really need to know about history (despite the fact that the rest of it is very interesting also). I am not Jewish but I understand perfectly well why survivors of the holocaust say "Never forget". The rest of history is inconclusive.
in the second half, regarding Octavian/Caesar Augustus, I think you just told any budding dictator out there what and who to study in order to learn how to turn a putative democratic republic into a one-man empire.
Seriously, it was great.
I feel like he did not answer the last question at all
Passing along Sean's recommendation for Dan Carlin's Hardcore History offering - Death Throes of the Republic Series, which I've not yet listened to, yet the reviews have inspired me to do so ASAP! - www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-death-throes-of-the-republic-series
is it mind scape, or minds cape?
Awfully timely at the moment...
51:00 🔖
Grotkes are murdered and Sean wonders how news is disseminated..
Interesting, but Watts book on Hypatia and her varied interests fit this podcast but only after a Frances Arnold effort.
Ha! "plebs
first
It would also be fantastic to have non western philosophers, historians and scientists on this podcast.