for 600 AUD it is fine, the Hardlex can be lived with as well. Yes its better to have the sapphire but to me its not a deal breaker. Especially with such a killer dial and i've always loved the cocktail dials! Keep it up man, really great reviews!
Totally agree with you, it’s not a deal breaker but would be a nice enhancement I don’t see myself wearing this while tearing down an engine (where I have a GShock for that!) thanks for watching buddy
@@perpetuality agree but I always find with doomed glass with no protection I would prefer hardlex for when it’s bump on door jambs, tables etc. less likely to shatter. Great review btw, can’t believe that dial is on a sub 1k watch, only seiko...
Just got the hou model brown one today. I have 6.5 inches wrist and it's absolutely amazing. Movement doesn't even need a regulation out of the box. Very impressed so far. Dial is grand seiko level.
Man I can’t decide which to get. Matcha one initially caught my eye the dial is beautiful but the other one seems more accessible with clothing matching and also just as beautiful
Seiko smart move... This is a traditional 3 hands with date automatic watches design but with the rich colors of dial and the good match of strap, then make a totally different levels.
Great work! LOVE the video quality and the pace - not too pushed and just very comfortable to listen and watch. I watched the entire video without getting bored haha 😆 Looking forward to the next video mate!!
I have the matcha! It's a great little dress watch for me (I changed the strap to a dark mottled green leather one). If I may add, it wears large too, since a huge amount of the visual real estate of the watch is a dial with lots of spaces in it.
From looking at the video the green one initially caught my eye but when I saw both in person the brown had more character. The issue with the green one was the case is the same color as the number indices and they kind of get washed out in light vs the silver case and gold numbering of the brown.
Hello, I hope you do a baby tuna review. Great macro shots. Perhaps wipe the watch before you do close ups. Very interesting and informative when telling a bit of history on the watch or how the watch came about. Cool video.
One thing I’ve come to realize about almost all Presages is that the camera does not do it justice. If you think it looks good now, wait till you see it in person. They’re freaking spectacular.
Who are we kidding?! Case:just a normal polished with no brush at all Glass:Hardlex, no sapphire Movement :4r35b =nh35, most commonly found in Chinese watches or micro brands Limited edition :7.000?? That is the normal factory procedure Price :490euros, for a watch that should be at maximum 250euros Obs:I just bought a watch with sapphire crystal, beautiful case, eta equivalent movement, dial and hands beautifully made the second hand covered with caps for 269 euros. Great video by the way
Thank you Alex! you bring up solid points, case in point Vario watches - manual wind movement, sapphire and exhibition caseback- and undercutting the base cocktail time. Same can be said for some chinese watches. Seiko has to step it up- but i feel they are riding on their reputation
I think it's gorgeous dial but I find the numerals too large compared to the rest of the elements. I really love this cocktail collection and the sakura is still one of my all time favourite watches, regardless of price
Thanks for watching friend! There are so many dial variants and among those i still love the Mojito the most, it just seems to be the sharpest under subtle lighting.
This is a brilliant video, great close up work and well delivered vocals with a relaxed pace. I'm subscribed now. Thanks for the content - looking forward to watching more of your videos in your back catalogue.
Limited edition of SEVEN thousand???? That doesn't seem limited at all :( I thought 3500 from the Starlight was already pushing it. I own a few Presage's because their dials are so unique and detailed, I can literally sit and stare at them all day. But I really don't like how most (if not all) of the new Presage's are "Limited edition" with limits that are larger than they were before. I think it's their way of raising the prices, which is fair. But I can't really justify the prices anymore even if their dials are super lust worthy...I can't justify paying more for a Frozen Margherita at LE of 5000 than my Sakura Fubuki that was 3500 units
Totally agree with you, it’s getting to be ridiculous as I see vendors still carrying stock- and that’s all down to the high # of units and the price. Best strategy? Buy them used 😅
Seiko is misleading a out were their watches are made! They put made in Japan on the dial but they’re made in Malaysia for the Japan market. Some people fall for the hype and pay extra hundred dollars for the J models, don’t be fooled they’re made in exactly the same factories with exactly the same workers and machinery as the k” models. Only grand seiko are made in japan.
"Each dial seems to have different textures"; "A unique finishing on each dial" What are you? Seiko's marketing board? Look at your own video footage: it clearly shows the same texture on the two different coloured dials.
So why is it Ltd?. Or were you asking the question. I bought the frozen margarita and at 5000 per piece , I assume its not across the whole Ltd range as mine is in 1520,that's not exactly Ltd. If you look properly the logo and markers aren't applied on the dial but on a clear coating atop the dial. But a very nice watch with a proven movement that's is hacking. And it's about the dial anyway. The 41mm none Ltd edition is OK but have the same look as the bulova sinatra and they have a little more about them. Anyway I'm doing your job here. You're supposed to answer not ask questions especially in the description
7000 units each isn't exactly "limited" More or less i was trying to point that out in the early part of the video Seiko warranted these being limited by way of the special textured dials and the vintage style box they supplied. That point was a little lost on you cause you are taking issue with the description and thats fine. I hear a lot about the Bulova Sinatra being a great watch but these Seiko's can be found under $400 USD which is less than half the price of the Frank Sinatra Bulova brand new. The only similarities are the dial layout. Anyway spent more time than I should've with this- thanks for the view!
@@perpetuality no slight intended to your review. But the description read like you had a definitive answer. The margarita and tequila sunrise are 5000 Ltd. I'm seeing the bulova pretty much the same price and as with the presage the range is vast but I haven't seen any Ltd edition bulova. I bought mine presage more because of the dial and size, at 38mm, nice Box and 2 straps are a selling point but I'm not keen on either so have my own on. Price is maybe 20% high but wouldn't change the spec at all.
The Sarbs were great having owned then 033 myself, they are products of the bygone era of truly value for money Seikos. Replaced by mid tier presage that are quite expensive. I think seiko truly intended for the cocktail time to be entry level dress watch, if the sarb was still offered it would fit below it. I wouldn’t say they are overrated the dials are a many ways superior and more interesting to the Sarb it just needs a sapphire crystal and a better movement to compete above the sarb. Just my two cents. Thanks for watching!
Great Review.. so good I subbed! these are beautiful.. the movement is just fine at that price because as you mentioned I think the money is all spent on the dial! Not a bad way to go! They should have Lumes at least the hands if their are going to give it a field watch look. 🫡 till next time!
for 600 AUD it is fine, the Hardlex can be lived with as well. Yes its better to have the sapphire but to me its not a deal breaker. Especially with such a killer dial and i've always loved the cocktail dials! Keep it up man, really great reviews!
Totally agree with you, it’s not a deal breaker but would be a nice enhancement I don’t see myself wearing this while tearing down an engine (where I have a GShock for that!) thanks for watching buddy
@@perpetuality agree but I always find with doomed glass with no protection I would prefer hardlex for when it’s bump on door jambs, tables etc. less likely to shatter. Great review btw, can’t believe that dial is on a sub 1k watch, only seiko...
@@user-n0tf0und. couldnt have said it better! thanks for watching
Just got the hou model brown one today. I have 6.5 inches wrist and it's absolutely amazing. Movement doesn't even need a regulation out of the box. Very impressed so far. Dial is grand seiko level.
the transition from 2:28 to 2:36 shows that the dials have EXACTLY the same texture.
Awesome review! My green one is on the way from Gnomon! I’ve never been let down by a Seiko watch. Incredible value. I may get the Brown one as well!
Congrats on the new buy! Hope you love it in person 😃
Among all the 38mm Seiko cocktail times', Mojito dial variant must be my favourite. Nice video my friend. Great close-up shots!
Im with you on that that dial is magic. Thanks for watching friend!
Man I can’t decide which to get. Matcha one initially caught my eye the dial is beautiful but the other one seems more accessible with clothing matching and also just as beautiful
I loved the matcha as a watch by itself but it was hard to wear everyday- the other brown dial however has visual interest and daily wearability
Just got mine today! Love how different the dial looks in different lightings
Where did you find it? I cannot find it anywhere online?
@@MicheleScipioni got lucky on eBay. You kinda just have to wait for one to pop up
I'm salivating!
Seiko smart move... This is a traditional 3 hands with date automatic watches design but with the rich colors of dial and the good match of strap, then make a totally different levels.
Great work! LOVE the video quality and the pace - not too pushed and just very comfortable to listen and watch. I watched the entire video without getting bored haha 😆 Looking forward to the next video mate!!
Thank you for the kind comments
Sexy watch, indeed
Great video! well done. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you!
I have the matcha! It's a great little dress watch for me (I changed the strap to a dark mottled green leather one). If I may add, it wears large too, since a huge amount of the visual real estate of the watch is a dial with lots of spaces in it.
You could get lost in that dial.. atleast I did! it uses the space in its dial layout really nicely IMO!
Where did you get the new strap?
From looking at the video the green one initially caught my eye but when I saw both in person the brown had more character. The issue with the green one was the case is the same color as the number indices and they kind of get washed out in light vs the silver case and gold numbering of the brown.
You are 100% right about the brown dial being a beauty in person. Photos dont do it justice at all
Love the Green !!! Subscribed !!!
Hello, I hope you do a baby tuna review. Great macro shots. Perhaps wipe the watch before you do close ups. Very interesting and informative when telling a bit of history on the watch or how the watch came about. Cool video.
Thanks for the feedback Robert will keep that in mind for future videos
One thing I’ve come to realize about almost all Presages is that the camera does not do it justice. If you think it looks good now, wait till you see it in person. They’re freaking spectacular.
Who are we kidding?!
Case:just a normal polished with no brush at all
Glass:Hardlex, no sapphire
Movement :4r35b =nh35, most commonly found in Chinese watches or micro brands
Limited edition :7.000?? That is the normal factory procedure
Price :490euros, for a watch that should be at maximum 250euros
Obs:I just bought a watch with sapphire crystal, beautiful case, eta equivalent movement, dial and hands beautifully made the second hand covered with caps for 269 euros.
Great video by the way
Thank you Alex! you bring up solid points, case in point Vario watches - manual wind movement, sapphire and exhibition caseback- and undercutting the base cocktail time. Same can be said for some chinese watches. Seiko has to step it up- but i feel they are riding on their reputation
Can u recommend me a better watch than this...which is either limited edition or is high end....for a budget of under $500
@@4stpm215 limited edition of high end for 500$? I find it difficult,try micro brands, good luck 👍
May i know the model of the watch that you actually bought? I like the cocktail time dials but i cant seem to justify buying them for the specs.
Beauty
I think it's gorgeous dial but I find the numerals too large compared to the rest of the elements. I really love this cocktail collection and the sakura is still one of my all time favourite watches, regardless of price
This lineup of presage looks really 👍 Negroni and Mojito also great looking! Nice review my friend, keep it up
Thanks for watching friend! There are so many dial variants and among those i still love the Mojito the most, it just seems to be the sharpest under subtle lighting.
Agree with you 👍
Couldn't resist that beauty, so i get one for my wrist SRPD36 😁
@@geraltnroach Gorgeous watch too! you have great taste in watches :)
This is a brilliant video, great close up work and well delivered vocals with a relaxed pace. I'm subscribed now. Thanks for the content - looking forward to watching more of your videos in your back catalogue.
What do you think about the limited edition "Fuyugeshiki" Presage?
Beautiful in person and looks great on a leather strap, but i prefer the numerals and case design of these newer cocktail time.
did i miss it, what's the case diameter?
edit: nevermind, found it in the description
Limited edition of SEVEN thousand???? That doesn't seem limited at all :( I thought 3500 from the Starlight was already pushing it.
I own a few Presage's because their dials are so unique and detailed, I can literally sit and stare at them all day. But I really don't like how most (if not all) of the new Presage's are "Limited edition" with limits that are larger than they were before. I think it's their way of raising the prices, which is fair. But I can't really justify the prices anymore even if their dials are super lust worthy...I can't justify paying more for a Frozen Margherita at LE of 5000 than my Sakura Fubuki that was 3500 units
Totally agree with you, it’s getting to be ridiculous as I see vendors still carrying stock- and that’s all down to the high # of units and the price. Best strategy? Buy them used 😅
Great looking watches. It’s a no to Hardlex though.
Couldnt agree more, especially that is limited edition would've like to see a sapphire crystal included
Seiko is misleading a out were their watches are made! They put made in Japan on the dial but they’re made in Malaysia for the Japan market. Some people fall for the hype and pay extra hundred dollars for the J models, don’t be fooled they’re made in exactly the same factories with exactly the same workers and machinery as the k” models. Only grand seiko are made in japan.
Why is the strap upside down?
Is there any way to replace the glass?
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What versions have sapphire glass and the guilloche dial?
Hi Carrick, none of the cocktail time have sapphire crystals by default. You’ll have to look at the sharp edge series for a sapphire crystal
Hello, which one would you choose? With this watch or with the mojito?
I think the Mojito is exceptionally sharper than these two limited editions. It seems to catch light and shadows like a gem. That would be my pick.
How much is the watch ?
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"Each dial seems to have different textures"; "A unique finishing on each dial"
What are you? Seiko's marketing board? Look at your own video footage: it clearly shows the same texture on the two different coloured dials.
Nh35 movement.....no thank you. they mesmerize you with the dial and then give you a low end movement. a porsche with a toyota engine.
i think for the pricepoint its reaching the limits of what is fair, only problem is they keep rising up
LMAO you have clearly never owned a toyota before.
Wrong, each dial does not have different texture
Hardlex in a limited edition. 🤣 Seiko is offering less than entry level watches.
Especially when microbrands are putting sapphire crystals on lower priced watches it really is no excuse for Seiko
So why is it Ltd?. Or were you asking the question. I bought the frozen margarita and at 5000 per piece , I assume its not across the whole Ltd range as mine is in 1520,that's not exactly Ltd. If you look properly the logo and markers aren't applied on the dial but on a clear coating atop the dial. But a very nice watch with a proven movement that's is hacking. And it's about the dial anyway. The 41mm none Ltd edition is OK but have the same look as the bulova sinatra and they have a little more about them. Anyway I'm doing your job here. You're supposed to answer not ask questions especially in the description
7000 units each isn't exactly "limited"
More or less i was trying to point that out in the early part of the video Seiko warranted these being limited by way of the special textured dials and the vintage style box they supplied. That point was a little lost on you cause you are taking issue with the description and thats fine. I hear a lot about the Bulova Sinatra being a great watch but these Seiko's can be found under $400 USD which is less than half the price of the Frank Sinatra Bulova brand new. The only similarities are the dial layout. Anyway spent more time than I should've with this- thanks for the view!
@@perpetuality no slight intended to your review. But the description read like you had a definitive answer. The margarita and tequila sunrise are 5000 Ltd. I'm seeing the bulova pretty much the same price and as with the presage the range is vast but I haven't seen any Ltd edition bulova. I bought mine presage more because of the dial and size, at 38mm, nice Box and 2 straps are a selling point but I'm not keen on either so have my own on. Price is maybe 20% high but wouldn't change the spec at all.
Stay calm: Go reward yourself with a HMT Kohinoor watch.
The Cocktail time is one of the most overrated watches in the Seiko Line up. Get one of the Sarbs while you can.
The Sarbs were great having owned then 033 myself, they are products of the bygone era of truly value for money Seikos. Replaced by mid tier presage that are quite expensive. I think seiko truly intended for the cocktail time to be entry level dress watch, if the sarb was still offered it would fit below it. I wouldn’t say they are overrated the dials are a many ways superior and more interesting to the Sarb it just needs a sapphire crystal and a better movement to compete above the sarb. Just my two cents. Thanks for watching!
Completely disagree, the cocktail dials are amazing.
The cocktails dial pack so much detail to see & mesmerize.
Haters gon hate
Great Review.. so good I subbed! these are beautiful.. the movement is just fine at that price because as you mentioned I think the money is all spent on the dial! Not a bad way to go!
They should have Lumes at least the hands if their are going to give it a field watch look. 🫡 till next time!