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- čas přidán 12. 04. 2023
- I had a minor crash at the top of the Foxhole. This has the incar video of the crash, a slow motion replay and my thoughts on the cause.
The car was fixed and back out the same day, which considering how bad it could have been, I`ll class that as a positive outcome !
See Mishas video here : • (un)LUCKY CRASH of Leg...
Impact blurred at the request of the Nurburgring.
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So glad you are ok!
To be honest, I was not surprised you fixed the car in a few hours. You're prepared for worse🤣
If anyone wants to see different angle of the impact: czcams.com/video/QQETKKoSU30/video.html
Most important is that you are okay. Saw the video with Misha, and I'm really surprised that the damage with that speed is not that big.
Me too!
That's just old cars for ya! People often think less damage = good. But they forget that these cars had pretty much zero crumble zones, without a harness it would've been quite a nasty accident.
@@WARXion you'd be absolutely insane to drive at the speed I do in a car like this without a cage, full harness and seats. As you say, they are old cars with very minor crumple zones
Very unlucky accident but with a very lucky 🍀 outcome 👍. See you at the next DN, my first in about 4 or 5 years 🇩🇪
The same thing causes everyone to spin. Initially you caught it but once the car rotates to the right, the rear wheels touch the grass and at that point you are along for the ride. Ive seen this exact accident happened mire times than I am remember. Really glad you escaped unhurt.
Had a crash at the same exact place 2 years ago in an MX-5. Good to see you are okay and the car only had minor damage ❤
Always good to go out again after such inconveniences
Inconvenience. I like that description 😁
Glad you're all good Nige and that the Pinderwagen lives to fight another day 😊
Luckily it wasn't a big damage and that makes me happy. We look forward to seeing you and the #pinderwagen back in action as soon as possible. Greetings from Italy.
Glad nothing happend to you, love your Golf❤. Rolled over mine at a Rallye, now rebuilding it since three years with a new Chassis, so I'm happy you haven't to do that much😅
Really you made it out with not a scratch and really pleased this little beastie only got away with essentially superficial damage, having an off that bad and coming out with so little to repair is incredible!
Alright Nige, glad to see you walked out unscathed. Would have to agree with your conclusion you got away with it, could have been much worse. I'm sure the Pinderwagen will be back bigger and better soon. I was going to try and blag a passenger ride, but now with your driving, I'm not so sure....😉
Comedian 😁
Good call straightening the wheel before the nose hit, I broke an outer tie rod in a not too dissimilar event on the Hungaroring. Main thing is you did a follow-up lap and you'll be back, so you're in an exclusive club now - the people who had a hit, but fixed the car and came back. A+
As per chat elsewhere mate, glad it was all as uneventful as it was. Great video explaining it all, kudos to you.
bad/good luck there Nige. Was good catching you at Spa briefly the other day after all those years. The bangs out of your Golf on upshifts are mildly frightening driving behind it! Sometimes crashes are just not possible to get a definitive conclusion on the cause. Did seem you were a bit further on the right at turn-in and maybe just touched the kerb which unsettled it but impossible to ascertain to the necessary level of precision.
Glad nothing more happened Nige, to you and the car. You are close to ready for your next visit to the Ring.
👍💪✌
What an excellent car, basically a rocket in a MK2 skin, can't believe it's so fast yet the engine looks like it's from world war 2. Proper machine
I thought that was the end of the pinderwagon at first😦
Soooo glad you are alright and soooo glad the pinderwagon lives on ! Can't believe you managed to get it back out on track so quick 👍
I agree with Nico2006. In my view, you slightly touched the curb on the right side. This lifted the right side of the car with the consequence, that the right back of the car lost downforce. When you then turned left, the rear right tire could not hold on and the car started to slide. At this point, you were only passenger. Glad that you have not been hurt in this crash. And only minor damage to the car.
All your hard work paid off. If that car had flipped you would’ve been in serious trouble. The Arrow package was worth it’s weight in gold.
Glad there is not a lot of damage ! I'm sure you and the golf will be back stronger !
So glad to see you’re well and with the added bonus of minimal damage. Hope to catch up for a chat over the summer
Liked for your positivity and professionalism in the face of adversity !! I'm sure you'll be out lapping again soon.
Nige glad youre OK keep on powering on 🙏🏼
Very glad your ego is intact. You're human. Stuff happens.
Huge fan of your Mk2
Thought it was going to be so much worse! Still made it out for the last lap 😂 Glad you came out unscathed. The aggression in your expletive scared me more than the crash. A side of Nige I’ve not witnessed before! Good to see you doing a talking video as well 😉👍
Cat said the same. I don`t swear in front of my kids. She turned to Lou and said "Dad SWORE !!" :D
@@pinderwagen hahaha, brilliant, grassed up by Cat🤣🤣
Glade you are ok Nige, cable ties and a hammer can fix most things.
Keep on smiling and enjoying life
The weight of the passenger was the difference on the one without the incident.
You handled it well, and the main thing is that you’re ok
Very glad to see you're ok and the car still running! and amazing stuff getting it fixed up and going out again so quickly! I've nearly binned it there too in almost identical circumstances - only got away with it because it was a very forgiving car. The right hand side of the track after the foxhole compression seems to pull cars in and unsettle them under braking and turn-in
so so lucky! also the perseverance is exemplary!
Mate, glad you're OK! I'm sure you'll have everything ship shape in no time.
Glad to see you're ok. 👍👍
I was about 20 seconds behind arriving on the scene. Thought it would be worse than what damage you had. Good job getting back out for a lap!
Aaaah Nigel, Im so sorry! We did a lap together many years ago! I think it was 2016. This accident was just bad luck mate. I think you had the rear left still on the dirt while hitting the brakes. What an unlucky split second. This one came unexpected. Im glad you are okay. Thank you for staying alive and unharmed! Much love from Dubai!
Dear Nige, really glad to see you and the Pinderwagen quite ok.😲
You know this could have been much worse and I see you're grateful that you came away with minor damage on the car.
I wish you all the best and hope you can fix it quick.🤙
Greetings from Austria, Stefan
Good to hear it's not badly damaged pal 👍
A better presenter than many I know! 👀😂
Glad you came away unscathed, the car can be (and largely has been) sorted 👍
knob :P
Bold of you to think I meant you 😂
What a tricky situation, glad you are fine!
Glad you are ok! 👍
Glad you are fine !! I think it is a combinaison of late turn in + you were a but too much to the right before turn in. For this turn, against the principle of always using all the track, it is better to let a bit space with the curve for car stability. When too close to the curve in addition to late turn in, you have to turn more the wheel to get to the apex and with the G unloading for the rear, it snapped. Also you could have a bit too much brake while turning which also unload rear. I saw some one doing almost the same crash but with a gt3 rs. I will post the link when i can
I agree. Was definitely a fraction wider than the other lap.
Lucky guy! Glad you’re ok! Go-pros don’t convey the speed you’re actually travelling through there! It’s a scary part of the track! 10/10 for getting back out after!
So happy to see you were not injured. Big ups for going out again so soon. My wife and I rolled and totaled my Audi S3 (MY2018). It took me some time to get behind the wheel again after that experience.
I didn't want to have to wait until the next trip before I was out again for that reason.
insane skill! nice that both you and the car are ok :D
Oh boy, your Instagram status had me nervously checking in here. I am so glad that you and the car are okay, I expected things to be much worse. Be safe and have a great track day next time you are out there!
Glad you are ok, and that it's only minor damage. When you hit the curb with the car already unsettled it was a lost cause, and you got away in the best possible way I think.
Look forward to seeing you back in 3 weeks, Nigel.
Shit happens on the limit, mate. Glad you're okay.
nice to meet you this past week mate im so glad you came out of that accident unscaved! And the car too (Relatively speaking) See you again soon! i want a lap next time
The only difference i see is at the entrance on the left video driving over the white line and in combination with the lower temps. The white lines tend to be a bit more slippery but good to see that you are okay and the car was not heavily damaged
Sorry to see you had a bad day at the track Nige, seen the clip on misha’s channel.
Kept it pretty minimal, glad to see you and the car are good though.
Positive note is the gearbox setup looks awesome! 👌
The gearbox is fantastic 😍
Thanks for sharing! tumbs up!:)
Glad you made it unharmed
Important thing is that you're okay! And your precious Golf could be fixed so easily. :D You're a humble man but a very good driver.
So, that wasn't a driver fault ?
What caused that incident ?
Glad he is okay.
Ahh crap!
I hope you get it fixed up soon!
I've had to replace my RingTool after my off at the end of last year.
Still building it..
glad to see you are oke mate
Seeing you change wheel bearings at the gravel parking lot I'm sure you'll make it even better than before in no time. 👍
I'm gald you can fix it. That's one nice car you have there! I'll stick to sim racing on the Nordschleife thx :)
Definitely a strange one after looking at the comparison. Could of been alot worst. Glad you are OK!
Alls well that ends well. All things considered, you've had a result, could of been alot worse. Keep well mate.
Inspiring. Thank you
soo good that you are all right!
"you fucking bastard" such a British reaction 😁👌, glad you and the motor are okay it could of been alot worse.
Main thing is your ok mate, thank god.
Glad you're okay
Good job🔥💯👍
First of all im realy happy you are totaly fine! Last mondey 10-4 i had almost on the same point a nearly crash, came trough the foxhole brake hard in straight line and here i start sliding, so far i have only done 9 laps but realy cant figure it out what happend there 😵 was doing like 200-210 through foxhole
So glad ur ok
Nice one, I looked a few times at the video footage and my idea is that when you come on top of the fuchsrohre, at the right side, you braked (lightly) and touched the curbs. That makes your wheel lose a fraction of contact grip and makes the brakes go awol. Rear left and front right (as they are so connected if still using the oem brake setup) lock up for a moment and makes your car unbalanced, From there on it escalated quickly into a spin.
You have to see the above three lines in a fraction of a second.
But hey that is my idea, could be wrong.
I have the same sort of almost crash when I took Wipperman years ago and probably also touched the brakes slightly....
my left ear really enjoyed the video very much
you scared me. im glad to see you are ok
Happy to see the car still in one piece. Maybe the weight diffrence tricked you. One less person onboard is 80kg less. Also lifting throttle in a corner causes the rear end becoming light and wanting to pass the front. Anyway just guessing and happy you and the car are ok!
@5:52 the right side is on the curb ye, just slightly sets the car off a bit by bouncing i reckon? Then loses traction causing you to try correct with a quarter left.
All is good tho!
Given the speed, gradient and the fact that you're turning and braking, only minor differences will cause the rear to go light. The is slightly more steering lock and aggressive turn in than the crash lap (only a minor difference) which could cause the front to bite more after any scrub of any initial understeer from braking. That heavier front bite and weight transfer forward would result in quicker change in weight transfer and balance forward than usual and therefore the temporary loss in rear grib that caused the incident. Data on brake trace would also be useful to see
m8 im so glad your ok an everything can be put back straight
i bet the tyres werent as hot as they should have been but yes it looks like the car came unwound when you hit the rumble strip a little hard
About time we got you on the camera, channel builder for sure! Glad all is ok 👍
Hmmmm. I`m not convinced. ;)
@@pinderwagen would be great to see some work in progress vlogs!
@@pinderwagen You're a natural, Nigel!
I hope you will repair quickly. It’s a good racing machine 😎🤙
It was repaired the same day. Cosmetic the week after 🙂
If you look at 5:55, your turn in angle is a few degrees sharper than the previous lap. Front bites, rear steps out. Now you have to correct, which you did, but drove over the kerb. The critical mistake here is holding the correction over the kerb. As soon as your front wheels get back on pavement, your rears have no grip comparatively. This darts the nose right as the rear end comes around again. Then the tank slapper sends you off. Differential grip is so difficult to correct over, but rule of thumb is back off, wheel straight, fix it then ease back up to speed. This is a hard one because usually 3 mistakes in a row is that threshold which brings you down, but in this case, the second mistake put the nail in the coffin. Just my observation, hope you get it all fixed up soon! Glad to see the contact was minimal.
Glad You're OK, and really minor damage for this sort of speed.
Any chance You can say something about costs of such crash at the Ring (unless wife is following the channel and is not informed yet 😁 ) - barrier damage, towing, etc. Some kind of insurance or "you brake it, you bought it".
As this is main reason I'm postponing a trip to the Ring - what if something happen...?
A sober reminder of “it’s not if but when”
I like the side by side view. 😅
First of all, I've got shifter envy, that looks awesome! So glad the damage was minimal and you walked away, could have been huge, but you did well there. Just my 2p, I wouldn't normally comment as you know very well what you're doing and what's going on with the car, but my observations from the 2 onboards... were the onboards from different days? You're wearing a different T-shirt which suggests yes, but the video from the crash, the car looks a lot more unsettled, it looks like the damping or spring rate has changed, there's scraping in the compression. Is it just the camera footage that's struggling to stabilise?? The left hand video just looks so much more bumpier and it only just settles before you turn in to the left. Anyway, have subbed, love the car, have seen you on different channels and I look forward to seeing it repaired and going flat out again!
Nice car!
Sorry you binned it mate. You'll get it primed quick I know.
To my old eyes, it appears you got into the left curbstone/rumble strip for that last corner a little earlier the 2nd lap,
not to mention "deeper" (over to the left more) into it as well. It's just a little bit, but it's noticeable - like a reflex
action of someone who's perhaps carrying a bit more speed than they'd like, so they dig deeper into the apex.
Just my two cents, I could be wrong - but I'm very glad you're ok, which is all that matters really.
-Ed on the Ridge
*''Spare Grills''* 😆
Sorry to hear that, I absolutley love the Pinderwagon, did you have to pay for the barriers?
Hi Nige, glad you've made it! was it expensive fee for the damage to the barrier?
Happy you are okay and that the damage is not too big.
May just a fake impression, but the second lap seems to be more "bouncy" that the first, because of less downforce due to les speed, or did the passenger weight helped a bit ?
Just subbed hoping to see you returning to the ring soon enought. :)
Less than ideal but glad everything came away relatively unscathed.
with that amount of speed and that little damage you and golfie are realy lucky ! looks like you brushed the armco.
and thank god its a older car ! do that to a new car and it wil fall apart as if the car drove over a landmine
Extremely lucky. I was expecting a complete front end destroyed from that. Do you think your right rear tyre touched the right kerb just on turn in?
It does seem like a possibility
Noooooo 😢
Hey yo lol came here from Mishas channel.
I think it’s how bouncy it is at that speed. It looked like the ass might have been floating a tiny bit when you gave that input.
Do you have Gforce logging? Like what your forces where in regard to Cartesian coordinates?
Glad you and the car are mostly alright!
The side by side in slow motion...it looked like you were slowing down a bit more just before you spun?
How did the laps after your fast hammer repair seem...with regards to suspension...specifically the right rear corner that lost grip?
Absolutely zero damage! Car drove straight, handled like normal. I'm very very lucky
Schwer zu sagen , im Vergleichsvideo hattest du einen anderes Gewicht ( gleiche Fahrwerkseinstellung , wie Solo?) wie war die Temperatur Unterschied, Luft /Reifen? Das Alter der Reifen ? Streckentemperatur? Du warst auch weiter rechts, hast du den Curb berührt?
NOOOO!!!!
I'm surprised by the small amount of damage for the speed! Very lucky, I'm wondering what the difference in track temp might have been between the two side by side laps, as it looks quite overcast on the lap of the incident?
That's definitely something that I've noticed afterwards, although it felt fine until that point
What valve cover is that, looks great!
Tiz but a scratch
Yeah, so the compression, then onto the curbs, the wobbly-wobbly effect, and there is just no catching that in a short wheel base car. While this is an iconic car... In the sense that its very recognisable and a fun project... I think this car is too fast for its own good. You just cant build "racing" into that chassis. Incredible result considering the speed. But I would consider building the next project out of an old BMW instead.