The 1932 murder that would become a Legend - Finding Mamie Thurman - Logan West Virginia
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- The murder that would become a Legend - Finding Mamie Thurman - Logan West Virginia
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Leo…keep on laughing. Your laugh is contagious and makes me smile when I hear it.
Appreciate that!
Better to laugh than cry!! The world needs more cheer😁
I had to watch this video twice. There is nothing wrong with you two laughing, ignore those clowns 🤡 who say otherwise. I love how you found mamie's grave, I believe she is there as well, or pretty close. This is another tragic story. 😥 when she said she was having affairs with some prominent citizens, she pretty much signed her own death warrant. Interesting about her husband dying in a asylum later. Heather, you did an outstanding job researching this story, thank you. Perhaps one day, someone out of the goodness of his/her heart ❤️ will put a simple marker on Mamie's grave.
Thank you very much again, Leo and Heather, for another great story, and video. Have a great day.
Great video
$700 in 1932 would be over $15,000 today. They spent that much on her funeral but buried her in an unmarked grave? How strange!
Yes it's odd
I just wonder off hand is there any record of who paid for the funeral procedures? Keeping in mine that's her husband was a cop that probably did not make that much money on a salary, and it is very odd that one of the principle players in this little scenario committed suicide,, just makes you wonder, reminds me of the case that Leo covered of the cheerleader that was presumably murdered by the person that was the head of the School board and highly politically connected and all of the evidence except for the poor girl's dress was destroyed when he was found presumably not guilty, makes you wonder........
Please laugh any time. Don't listen to what some of these people say .. laughter is a Blessing! I am a smiling laughing person myself and it's what I've been known for since I was a kid. If someone told me not to laugh, well... I would have to laugh at that!!
Thank you Rhonda! Some people just don't understand
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I LOVE to hear your laughing & injoying & having fun while making your videos !😁😃😄 Laughter is good for a person & for those who are around them.
There are a ton of You Tube vids out there & if someone doesn't like hearing laughter & a person having fun well I say they're free to move on. They're also free to make their own 'videos'. That is my view on that, I'm sure I'm not alone thinking that way.
If they don't like laughter they can watch some of my true ghost vids.
I have tons of spooky ghost pics from Gettysburg to add, one day.
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Loved this story, RIP Mamie and every one that's buried there. I wish Mamie had a grave marker. 😊, have a great week.
Thank you. You too.
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It is so sad to find abandoned Graveyards. Expecially when there are still family members in the area.
I LOVE how tickled Leo was to show the Steele Monument!!! The SHOCK factor was to cool!!!!!! Good job guys!!!!!
Thanks 🙏
I watch Mysterious WV. Love Sean and his wife. But mainly i think WV is such a beautiful state. I enjoy the scenery. This story is facinating and the icing is the visuals. 😉🌹
My late mom's best friend was called Alberta Bell, from Logan WV. Listening to her stories as a kid of 10 or so and being a writer myself, I've often thought about writing a fictional book based on all those wonderful stories she told.
Have any if you watched the channel MYSTERIOUS WV? Sean McCracken did a video on this case, and this video here just adds that personal touch. Thank you!!
Im familiar with Sean, thanks so much, Im glad you enjoyed it some =)
You should write down those stories. I should as well. True stories are stranger than fiction and way crazier
Not fictional. The older generations stories are historical, not fictional. In college, I was taught in Western Civ class that a true story is when 2 people give an identical account of the same even, that is considered to be an historical fact, the truth… These stories are taught in college history books as historical facts. So, no difference if you ask me.
Folklore maybe, but not fictional ❤️
😅 stymie those pronounciation bandits! 👍
Good job!!! So happy you found her. You should take some silk flowers and leave them on her grave area. I really enjoyed this one as well. You guys are rock stars!!! Stay safe!
Thank you for the history lesson! I’m from Canada so this is new for me.
Our pleasure!
Yes it IS great mystery! My husband's daddy (ALSO from Logan) even gave me a little BOOK written on her! THANK YOU for this wonderful story & walk down memory lane!
I’m in Tn. But I have two sons that live in Ky. My oldest boy has bought a lot of guns in his life time. He got one that has a H on the stock. The man he got it from said he could not prove it but the word from all the before buyers was it was a Hatfield gun. I don’t know but it’s old enough to be one. I wish we could some way prove it was. I love these stories you tell and your voice is perfect for it. Thank you so much.
thank you!!
Carol Buckner I hope you see my reply.
WOW! I just absolutely loved this video. Thank you so much for sharing this wonderful piece of history. When I lived in Charleston, I heard about Mamie Thurman's murder and all of the theories about how she died, why, and the murderer. I immensely enjoyed the history. of Mamie Thurman's murder. Keep up the great work.
Thanks so much 😊
Leo can laugh all he wants to as well as Heather.
Y'all are such a cute couple. All I can add is, that Mamie was a pretty little thing. She may have been naughty, but she didn't deserve being brutally murdered. Edit: dang.....!!! hubby could have at least put a few large rocks for markers. Sad thank you for the videos.
You're laughter is addictive 😂 ! One of the greatest things about ya'll ! Leo , when you giggle . It makes me giggle and I want to personally thank you for that . Thank you for taking us along on all your adventures .
God bless yous 🙏 ❤️ .
Thank you very much! Heather's maiden name was Lawrence, btw...
I'm so happy to be a member of your channel! I have learned so much on history from it! You guys are amazing! Plus you guys are just a amazing couple! Thank you!
Your so uplifting and thank you 💝
Great story! I’m from Logan county and I’ve been a little obsessed with this story since I was a kid. I tried the trick on 22 Mine Road this evening & it worked! lol
My gg-grandfather was Henry Mitchell, he owned Mitchell heights. He was also married to Devil Anse’s sister Bridgette “Bidey” Hatfield. Love watching your videos. 💙💛
Glad you enjoyed it!
The cemetery records(map) should identify exactly where the two plots owned by the attorney are? She could've been buried under a different name since she didn't own either. Just my thoughts and I'm sure you already took that into consideration.
You two do a lot of hard work but unraveling the mystery surely makes it all worth it. Awesome channel and very interesting content. Your subscribers will grow fast as people stumble across just one of your videos. Definitely my favorite of the several I am subscribed to.
Thank You
They tell you not to laugh??? I adore your laugh!!! Laughter is the best medicine. Keep laughing!!!!
You guys are amazing!!!! I figured out the Steele right before he came around the the monument. I have a Great Great Grandfather named Little Andy Wright was killed in a shootout along with his Uncle and cousins in Letcher County Ky. Mothers name Susan Wright, she Never gave little Andy’s fathers name….no one knows for sure til this day. But Steele was the name floated around for years. Oddly enough, his widow Mary married a young Preacher Wilburn Reedy and is said to have lived and died there in Logan County. I’ve always wanted to visit, and through you Ive been able to “walk around” I’m loving this channel soooo much! Thank you!!
Aww thanks so much!
Your laughter makes me grin. Don’t stop ! Both of your personality add so much to these somewhat grim stories! Keep it up!
Since I subscribed to your channel, you have gained a lot more viewers. So happy for you. Thank you for the history lessons! Love you guys
Thank you very much!
I love ya'all. I appreciate so much all your efforts to put out videos for us. As I said before my health is not good enough to go to these places I have always wanted to go and I go through you all. And being from WV, I feel like you are my "home boys". I love your narration because your voice is home to me. My people. My West Virginia. Ok, Ok, enough for the sappiness, I do appreciate you so much
Thanks so much, it means a lot to us! Keeps us motivated
I love those churches too. You did a really good job showing the locations and telling her story.
Thank you so much!
Great video guys. Few things as sad as an unmarked grave. Even a fieldstone is better than nothing.
I’ve done it many times. Put your car in neutral just before that bridge and you will go backwards uphill!
Hummm, interesting! I’d say you found her grave. You two are awesome. I wasn’t expecting you to have this video out tonight, Heather you did a great job getting this edited.
Thanks Cheryl!
She was very beautiful. What a sad story 😢 Thank you for sharing.
EXCELLENT! When you showed the Steele monument, I got chills. Yippeee.
Great! thank you Caroline!
Your laughter tickles me…keep on keeping on! Sad to see the state of the cemetery. I grew up in the tri-state area (PA, OH, WV), so nice to find your channel on history around there.
Thanks so much 😁
My wife is from Logan,WV. Her family were part of early Logan. Her grandfather was a millionaire during some of this. Thanks for the history.
Very cool thanks
Please don’t let these naysayers stop you from being jovial, Leo! I enjoy your lightheartedness.
You said the gravedigger said her grave was marked with the metal funeral home marker. Maybe someone could metal detect the area and find that marker?
Oh Yes, Raleigh County fan here! Just love what you two are doing with your channel! THEN this.. ya'll just busted The Mamie Thurman Case wide open! Wonderful hillbilly common sense at work. Can't wait to see what you will do next. Great Job!
Thanks so much!
Excellent crime drama video. Bringing past to present with connecting all known dots to reveal a very familiar pattern with our species . Observation : large buildings require alot of capital to build . Architecture often reveals a lot more about a place and it's history . Thanks
Thank you!
My daddy just passed in November. He is from WV and I have a calling or and urging to go back and explore my roots…thanks for this video.
Oh yes you should, it helps you find yourself when you do things like that
Loved this. Lots if hard work finding her. Thanks guys.
Our pleasure!
Steele monument, what a surprise. Super research, you guys did an awesome job. Thanks
Thanks Marlena!
Wow!loved the "Steele monument" mystery!don't u just get chills to figure out the clues u do to these places!u guys have fun tgthr & laugh - as we all should do & its the best!ty & god bless u both!love your videos 😇
Thanks Glenna!
Fantastic.... Well done guys !!!
Thanks a lot!
I came across one of your shows and liked it so much I am looking forward to the next one. I think the husband did it, crime of passion with the over kill. It was a small town, so he knew. But in those days, she would have been a wanton woman and ask for it. The husband would have been viewed as the victim being a respectable lawman out patrolling crime while his very loose and disrespecting wife was patrolling men.
Very possible
I recently found your channel and I love it. I have only been to Moundsville WV for a ghost hunt and I loved the area. Much appreciation and respect from Haverhill MA
Awesome! Thank you!
I love how into this you are it’s amazing
We call her mammy here not MAYME, Make your own video and call her what you like.
@@mzdkkeller I'd walk a million miles for one of her smiles. . .
Good! It's YOU TWO and your channel and that's what we come here to watch, listen and learn!!
@@mzdkkeller next someone will call them racist. FFS! Get over it, turn off the volume, put on closed captioning and CHILL!!
@@rdh53 LOL!
@@heyokaempath5802 thank you!
There is a road on the East side of the state capitol building in Salt Lake City, Utah. Locals call it Gravity Hill. As a teenager in the '70's, my friends and I would often go there and roll uphill. I grew up in SLC, but I live in North Idaho now. My son took me to SLC in 2018 to see a Bob Seger concert. I told my son about Gravity Hill and he didn't believe me. (brat...) So, I took him there. He was driving and he experienced rolling uphill for himself. It was great entertainment for me. lol Fun video!!
yes gravity hills have been fooling people awhile lol, they are sure fun though =D
I remember doing that 👍 I grew up just West of SLC 😀
@@rjay7019 It was fun taking people that didn't believe it,
and make believers out of them lol
Very interesting story being that I was raised in the funeral business many years ago ! Keep up the good work ! Thanks !
Im so happy this channel just showed up on my CZcams stuff..ive watched probably 10 videos now, and im sharing the videos who enjoy history and are from the appalachians area..this is my favourite channel on CZcams..i got a lot of catching up to do, but ill take my time and totally enjoy the ride with leo going forward
I’m from Logan county. I use to party on 22 mountain road, to try and see her ghost. There is a cemetery in McConnel WV, which is where I lived till I was 18. My grandmother has a picture of herself sitting on a cross in the McConnell cemetery, people swear that marked her grave. I’ve been to the cemetery several times to try and find it, but it’s so overgrown. Ahhhh my hometown of Logan, damn I miss it
Thank you for these fabulous informative videos. I appreciate your work and efforts. 👏
Thank you!
I love your laugh! It keeps me coming back. I was born in Wheeling but I'm in South Carolina now. I watch your videos almost daily in the winter. I'll soon resume my duties with the Daughter's of the American Revolution until fall.
Yep , Makes sense.....the way words sound and context gets confused sometimes .. in The 80s in WV a bunch of fisherman started aggravating their state representatives about the state stopping stocking streams and lakes with fish.......... Turns out they were misinterpreting the new ANTI-STALKING LEGISLATION they had heard about.
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Thank you for taking me along on your adventures. I have truly enjoyed the places we go to . I can't wrap my head around the comment about laughing. All I can say about that is " who made the rule about what you do or say " tell them when they start paying your bills then they will have some input .
Thank you so much 😊 people don't understand, you laugh for various reasons, I don't think we do it when it's inappropriate. Sometimes your nervous or just excited. Or simply enjoying the moment
This is so cool, I've been by there many times but never went to the cemetery. I love what you guys do! And that's only about a 15 minutes drive for me, so I may take that picture. Ha! (keep the laughter going)
Thanks for watching! Yes please take the picture! 😆 It would make our day
I have my Mamaw’s notebook when she wrote that Mamie had been killed.
Heather, her first name is pronounced like Mayme. My Mamaw’s name was Matilda Jane and she was known from infancy as Mamie or Mayme. I love y’all!
Welcome to Logan, WV! It was such a great place to grow up and go to school. Graduated in 1974 from Logan High School. Every store was occupied back in the day! It definitely was booming!
No one I know calls her mayme, so I never did
I just love your stories and the research you do Love from Australia 🇦🇺
Thanks 😊
There’s not enough laughter in this world…we need more laughter less hate.
This was awesome. Looking forward to watching more.
Thanks Rock!
This is all Very interesting to me I have worked at the Monument shop in my home town for almost 30 years and have set many stones and done releveli g of old stones and still cut final dates for stones already installed in the cemeteries so watching your videos is very interesting to me especially the old murder victims or battles like the Hatfield and McCoy's ( I am David Watson from Salem Missouri ) keep up the good work not many people care enough to go check out these stories that are History that have been lost to time
WOW! You two are amazing!! Love watching you folks!!
I burst out laughing in the beginning after I read that you would never be able to stop laughing. I subscribed too and am enjoying your posts.
Thanks for subbing! We need more happy people 😀
I was hoping you all would do this story. My Dad worked at Hobet mine #7 up 22 mine road. He worked there for 32 years. I heard a lot of stories about her ghost.
Oh very neat! Would love to hear some
@@thehillbillyfiles maybe next timeI come in for a visit we can meet up for lunch and I can share some with you. I was raised over in Delbarton. Not too far from you all.
@@jasonrunyon2663 sounds good thanks
Yep, rake and a pitchfork
U guys are awesome!!! It looks like your subscribers have really grown lately!! I love it!!!😎🇺🇸
Thank you Edward!
LOVE when I hear laughter !! Keep on laughing 😍🥰‼️
thank you for a great video and lots of research you are better than the other cemetery CZcamsrs thanks again I don't normally shear videos but in this case, I did hope it helps. Keep up the great work you two do
I appreciate that! Thanks 🙏
This was well done. I know about months spent researching history papers. I'm impressed the result. Ocd pays off.
Thanks so much Debbie ❤️
Good research. You have me convinced that she's buried there such a shame a beautiful young woman murdered like that. But as I always told my kids & now my little grandsons bad choices have bad ends. She definitely was playing with fire. She's lucky she didn't end up pregnant. Poor Clarence. How convenient to blame the black man. Do you have ideas about who really did kill her? Your car going backwards up that hill - too creepy & spooky for me. I can guarantee you I will NEVER go to that road. The thought of ghosts scare the damn daylights out of me. I sure as hell do not want to meet one. You are braver people than I am Thanks for a very interesting video.
Thank you. You made our evening.
Love the town’s quilt pattern side walks
700 dollar funeral in 32 would be equivalent to a 16, 000 dollar funeral today so apparently her husband wasn't to upset by her actions to give her that expensive funeral right? When you was filming in parts of that town it gave me the chills ! What kind of vibes were you getting when you were there?
Love your channel, always been fascinated by the history of this part of your beautiful country...🙏🇬🇧👍
Glad you enjoy it!
Great story. Thank you for sharing. Very effective detective work.
Thanks for listening!
The majority of roads that you roll "backwards" on have actually been found to be optical and sensory illusions. You're actually rolling down, but the surrounding areas visible make it seem to you to be up.
Great detective work, Heather and Leo!
Thanks so much!
Great Story. Great job presenting it! Two thumbs up!
The city should clean that graveyard up, and give Mamie a headstone. I can’t believe a town would just let a graveyard be taken over by weeds and fallen trees. This is what people who are ordered to community service and inmates are for. Just clean it up and mow it once or twice a year.
Also get welfare recipients out there we pay them enough vast majority healthier and stronger than me.
Hopefully she’s there. One book I read about the murder is that she was buried in Kentucky. Her younger brother came to Logan county to investigate the death
don't stop laughing in your videos; I love your laugh!!! Cracks me up
Thank you for doing this video, I grew up at Holden 22 coal camp,I know this road very well, and I remember all the stories about Mamie Thurman
Glad you enjoyed it
INTERESTING HISTORY, OH WOW, LOVED IT, I’M SUBSCRIBED AND GIVE YOU MY👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 BLESSINGS.
Awesome, thank you!
Did you notice in the video at the time between 24:10 and 24:25, the camera pans ro rhe right, then back ro the left, and right after she says" he said where she was buried", there is a white cloud of smoke that appears across the top the screen- spooky 👻
I saw
Great video and research.
Thank you!
My dad was from Bartley West Virginia. I love the area. So much history. New subscriber!❤❤
Awesome! Thank you!
Just discovered y’all’s channel a couple days ago. Really enjoying the videos here. I’ve heard of this case before on Mysterious WV., but y’all put in a few details that I either forgot or Sean didn’t include. As an aside, Mamie is pronounced May-me.
Thank you! I call her mamie because everyone I know calls her that, I don't know one person who calls her mayme in my part of WV. So it feels odd to me
No worries. I’m in Tennessee and have known a couple women who pronounce it as May-me. Probably just the difference in areas and the unique dialect you will hear depending on the part of the country you live in.
Only found your channel a few days ago, glad I did....I quickly hit that subscribe button!
Keep making these awesome videos....👍🏻👌🏻👏🏻
Thanks! Will do!
I love Leo's laugh..
That's just sad to see that cemetery forgotten 😢
The article said her grave was marked by a metal placard from the funeral home. Couldn't you metal detect to see if you get a signal from that?
That's so sad and such a shame the cemetery is in that condition.
When I was growing up, people would drive up to 22 Mountain. You had to say her name 3 times like the old Bloody thing to get Mamie to push your car backwards. (My family uses Honaker funeral home. Such a great place.)
Great job!!! Would be great if someone could do GPR at the site, exhuming could answer lots of questions.
That's a great idea! Thank you for watching
Excellent story 👏
Thank you! 🙂
This is interesting. Thank you for making this!
Glad you enjoyed it!
As a fellow west Virginian I love the laughter. I'm a new subscriber been thinking of starting a channel myself but anyways so far the couple videos I've seen so far are great keep up the good work.
Thanks! You should try a channel, it's been mostly fun besides rude people time to time
I have been debating back and forth for a long time on starting a channel the big thing holding me back is the editing I have no clue where to start.
Fantastic story guys
Thank you 😀
New subscriber here!🙋♀️ Love your videos! Just came across your channel. I’m from Crawley Creek, and am in Logan a lot! I’ve been to 22 Mine Rd a lot also. I’ve done the car trick multiple times, and it works every time. You have to be in just the right spot. Some people say it’s just an illusion, but many say it’s the ghost of Mamie. I actually fell off a cliff up there back in 2012 and about killed my damned self. I’ve always said that Mamie pushed me.😬 Lol. Thank you for these cool videos y’all do, and for sharing the forgotten history of this awesome state! Kudos!😊
Edit: Also, yes they did do a play based on this story in the Chief Logan State Park Amphitheater a couple/few years ago. You can find articles about it in old Logan Banner papers.
Great Detective Work! I'm curious about the STEELE monument because my area is rich with history involving the Steele Family!
Hey Leo and Heather I've been catching up on all your videos I think you're doing a great job I grew up with a guy who's family is from Pikeville sorry I can't join the channel I don't have a credit card I'm going to plan a trip to the area to area for a adventure
Very good detective work guys!! Interesting & an attention getter for sure
Thanks so much!
Love this video ❤️Thanks for all the great videos...keep it up ☺️
You are so welcome!
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🎉🎉Yes...Of course the locals would refer to the structure as it says..The Steele Monument!!