A person round here uses a weaving drill 4.8m and put a set of discs on the front of a JD around 180hp,goes direct into cover crops after being sprayed off ,Overbury by Tewksbury had a cross slot drill doing the same thing,although its quite up and down as regards the slope of the fields,use a 350hp JD ,thinks its around 3.5 metres ,an odd width,you have to cover the acres to dilute the cost of the equipment. another farmer's thoughts were direct drilling, the straw is chopped and a controlled traffic system to reduce the amount of compacted ground,Is it a Mr Reynolds around Stamford who uses a stripper header on the combine and then used a JD direct drill.Around here they have found a stripper header is good for harvesting grass seeds.
Thanks Philip, putting something on the front of a tractor would be good on some soil types but the ground we had the demo on yesterday would come up too raw if the cover crop was chopped up immediately in front of the drill, it would need time to weather. I know Jake at Overbury well and he uses a cross slot but the soil type is totally different to ours. Tony Reynolds has been doing lots of regen stuff for years and I’m always keen to learn of people like him and Jake.
Direct drill day, why are Amazone afraid to display their best DD drill the Primera? Well done for hosting and to the manufacturers demoing their products
Thanks for the update Andrew very informative not that I have any knowledge of drills. Will the proof of pudding be in 5 months time when your harvesting the field thanks Dave.
Hello Andrew. Did Mr Dale mention the Simba free-flowing conversion to Dale tine kit. Used 3mtr Dale successfully on heavy land spring drilling for over 20 years, after having slot shrinkage and exposing seed with disc drill
Nice demo, good to compare machines. There are no drills putting down nitrogen? ( i heard it s better to apply some in d.d.? ) i am from belgium, there is no DD over here, just lots of minimal drilling ( subsoiler+ powerharrow) but Farms are much smaller here
Will let you know after harvest! Horizon, Horsch good disc drills, Amazone and Weaving good tines on first impression but yield will be ultimate impression.
I think the only drill that would incorporate Sludge successfully would be the Claydon. Otherwise you would need a drill that has small discs working at an angle in front of the seeding tines. You could then lift those out when you wanted to drill direct. Drills such as the Bednár omega and some Vadestad rapid’s.
The person who had the weaving drill,had a claydon before,did a grass ley, been down a while, after being sprayed off,its wasnt a pretty job by all accounts ,seed on the surface,I think Overbury are missing the benefits of the cattle ,had 2 dairy herds a generation ago,on the cotswold brash,they will feel things now on that type of ground ,with the way fertiliser prices have gone,Its not easy trying to replicate the benefits of livestock through a cover crop type scenario,Its always said in crop judging competitions in the summer ,they can tell the crops on a mixed farm.Im still trying to get my head around the difference between regen agriculture and a mixed farming system.
Great coverage Andrew, very informative for those of us that couldn't be there. Well done.
Thanks Paul, apologies with the wind noise but in the middle of a 45 acre field and 30 mile an hour winds, it was always going to be an issue.
Great video. I like the Claydon and the Weaving, nice simple low HP requirement too.
Cheers Andy. Both very different drills but British! 👌😃
Great videos Andrew! Very interesting to see. Great job!
Cheers John. 👍😃
top job! and looks like the rain stayed away......look forward to seeing the results and hearing your impressions
Cheers Richard. We had 15 mins of tain at lunch which meant we had to change how we ran the pm sessions, you’ll see in tonight’s video.
Nice to see all the differences!
My 12 year old son his comment....
Those farmers are like seagulls 🤣
🤣🤣
Great content Andrew, really well organised day and some great machines by the looks of it. Should do a combine day one year.
Cheers Layton. Funny you should say that about a combine day ………….!
@@WardysWaffleAndrewWard I'm sure it a be well attended.
As below. A very good insight into the day
It was a very good day Andrew very interesting🤙
Cheers Mark. 👍😃
A person round here uses a weaving drill 4.8m and put a set of discs on the front of a JD around 180hp,goes direct into cover crops after being sprayed off ,Overbury by Tewksbury had a cross slot drill doing the same thing,although its quite up and down as regards the slope of the fields,use a 350hp JD ,thinks its around 3.5 metres ,an odd width,you have to cover the acres to dilute the cost of the equipment. another farmer's thoughts were direct drilling, the straw is chopped and a controlled traffic system to reduce the amount of compacted ground,Is it a Mr Reynolds around Stamford who uses a stripper header on the combine and then used a JD direct drill.Around here they have found a stripper header is good for harvesting grass seeds.
Thanks Philip, putting something on the front of a tractor would be good on some soil types but the ground we had the demo on yesterday would come up too raw if the cover crop was chopped up immediately in front of the drill, it would need time to weather. I know Jake at Overbury well and he uses a cross slot but the soil type is totally different to ours. Tony Reynolds has been doing lots of regen stuff for years and I’m always keen to learn of people like him and Jake.
Thanks Andrew, great update as ever, shame about the wind noise though. 👍👍
Sorry, I thought being in the middle of a 45 ac field with 40mph wind, was bound to be a problem. I tried to shelter myself but not always possible.
@@WardysWaffleAndrewWard In 40mph wind, it wasn't ever going to be easy, Video content is top-notch though.. 👍
The Dale looks great imo
It’s a good drill, and made in Lincolnshire!
Woud love to see a farm tour on the channel
👍😃 I’ll do that before harvest in a week when I’m short of content.
Direct drill day, why are Amazone afraid to display their best DD drill the Primera? Well done for hosting and to the manufacturers demoing their products
Thank you, it was a really good day. All the drills were at my and Agrii request only.
Glad the weather stayed dry for you all, just a shame about the wind noise while filming.
Sorry, I thought being in the middle of a 45 ac field with 40mph wind, was bound to be a problem. I tried to shelter myself but not always possible.
Thanks for the update Andrew very informative not that I have any knowledge of drills. Will the proof of pudding be in 5 months time when your harvesting the field thanks Dave.
It will!!!
Hello Andrew. Did Mr Dale mention the Simba free-flowing conversion to Dale tine kit. Used 3mtr Dale successfully on heavy land spring drilling for over 20 years, after having slot shrinkage and exposing seed with disc drill
I know the Dale conversion as some of my friends have had it.
Nice demo, good to compare machines. There are no drills putting down nitrogen? ( i heard it s better to apply some in d.d.? ) i am from belgium, there is no DD over here, just lots of minimal drilling ( subsoiler+ powerharrow) but Farms are much smaller here
We use liquid fert and put 50kg/ha n on with the sprayer a week before the demo day.
@@WardysWaffleAndrewWard would you consider a twin hopper ( for n) on a new seeder?
Are you going to compare emergence between the drills?
Seed depth, % emergence, vigour, root mass, tillering, yield, bushel weight, grain nitrogen and screenings.
What’s your fav rig / set up
Will let you know after harvest! Horizon, Horsch good disc drills, Amazone and Weaving good tines on first impression but yield will be ultimate impression.
@@WardysWaffleAndrewWard ok thanks . Just thought you might of already been swayed towards one
Would the direct drills incorporate the sewage sludge you have?did you say you have 10000 t/annum spread at 7t/ac?
I think the only drill that would incorporate Sludge successfully would be the Claydon. Otherwise you would need a drill that has small discs working at an angle in front of the seeding tines. You could then lift those out when you wanted to drill direct. Drills such as the Bednár omega and some Vadestad rapid’s.
The person who had the weaving drill,had a claydon before,did a grass ley, been down a while, after being sprayed off,its wasnt a pretty job by all accounts ,seed on the surface,I think Overbury are missing the benefits of the cattle ,had 2 dairy herds a generation ago,on the cotswold brash,they will feel things now on that type of ground ,with the way fertiliser prices have gone,Its not easy trying to replicate the benefits of livestock through a cover crop type scenario,Its always said in crop judging competitions in the summer ,they can tell the crops on a mixed farm.Im still trying to get my head around the difference between regen agriculture and a mixed farming system.
The word regen ag could cover every system! It’s funny how a new phrase is used in so many contexts!