1974 CHEVROLET CHEVY CHEYENNE PICKUP TRUCK COMPARED TO FORD RANGER BLAZER SUBURBAN & VAN 17764

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    Chevrolet Trucks 1974 Pickups Comparison. This is a 1970’s era, color movie about comparing Ford and Chevy Half-ton pickup-trucks. Both trucks are equally equipped. C10 Chevy Fleetside Cheyenne Super and an F100 Ford Ranger XLT. Man enters the frame and speaks to the camera. Chevy pickup is loaded with a palette loader, 1:00. Chevy pickup is loaded with a palette loader, 1:15. Chevrolet massive girder beam front suspension, 1:35. Ford I-Beam design, 1:43. Ping pong ball test, 2:11. GM proving ground, 2:20. Ping pong ball test comparison, 2:50. Pickups are lifted by cranes to pick up trucks and compare spring capacities, 3:37. Axles are compared, 3:55. Shielded versus unshielded shock comparison, 4:28. Mufflers and tailpipes, 4:39. Chevy and Ford front and rear fenders, 4:55. Fender liners, 5:30. Man opens the hood of the Chevy, 5:50. Cut side view of the roofing panels on the Chevy and Ford sound reduction and structure are shown, 6:07. Comfort tilt steering on the Chevy, 6:54. Ignition locks are compared, 7:00. Taillight lens comparison, 7:26. Shatter resistant Lexan material on the Chevy, 7:25. Coolant recovery tank, 7:45. Side terminal battery on the Chevy, 8:25. Banks of headlights are compared to show battery life in Chevy versus Ford, 8:38. Time lapse photography is used for 38 minutes, 9:15. Step side pickup for easy loading, 9:40. Chevrolet massive girder beam front suspension, double panel construction, higher GVW’s, bigger windshield, more hip room, aluminized muffler and tailpipe, coolant recovery tank, integral voltage regulator, side terminal battery with extra capacity, more models, dual rear-wheel pickup, excellent re-sale value. Man speaks to camera, 10:25. Chevrolet. Still building a better way. END PART 1. Written and produced by the Bill Sandy Company. Film opens with a jetliner landing on a runway, 11:27. 3 different Chevy models pull up at the airport, 11:40. Sport Van, Suburban, Blazer, 11:50. The hood of the Blazer is opened, 12:10. Blazer is on the highway, 12:30. Animation shows Blazer body construction, 12:50. Blazer carpeting and bucket seats, 13:15. Man loads a 4-door Suburban Super Wagon, 14:05. Man loads cargo into Suburban 14:30. Suburban 6 Cylinder engine, 14:50. Suburban 6 Cylinder engine, 15:00. 2-wheel suspension, 15:18. 4-wheel drive Suburban, 15:28. The Chevy Sport Van unloads passengers, 15:40. Chevy Sport Van interior features, 16:10. Chevy Sport Van exterior features, 16:30. Chevy Sport Van removal and re-installation of seats, 16:50. Wide choice of engines, for the Chevy Sport Van, 17:25. Chevy trucks tow campers, 18:13.
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Komentáře • 961

  • @jasonpark5906
    @jasonpark5906 Před 4 lety +130

    If I drove to a car lot today and they had any one of these trucks in brand new condition I would choose any one of these old trucks over today’s models.

    • @jeffhiner9443
      @jeffhiner9443 Před 3 lety +7

      I get behind the wheel of a 73-87 Chevy and it feels like I’m home. I drove those for years and years and will always have a fondness for them. But I wouldn’t pick them over my 2019 under any circumstances.

    • @mr.mojorisin9999
      @mr.mojorisin9999 Před 3 lety +2

      Ive been building a brand new 86 c10 for the last 10 years lol. I thought old trucks always had a lot of road noise until i put new window and door weatherstripping in.

    • @chuckwhitson654
      @chuckwhitson654 Před 3 lety +4

      Especially if you could take it home for 3000 or less. I'd do that Chevy with a 454, 4sp 4:10 gears and limited slip

    • @youthmanrecords965
      @youthmanrecords965 Před 2 lety

      Damn right you would. No questions asked sir. Sign me up

    • @matth3708
      @matth3708 Před 2 lety

      Why? So it can last for 100000 miles and then everything breaks? I find it hilarious how lazy most Americans that consider themselves "gear heads" really are. Yes you can do a carb tune, an oil change and a tire roto, here's a medal...

  • @TrulyUnfortunate
    @TrulyUnfortunate Před 4 lety +42

    My dad bought that same Chevy when I was 9 years old. I learned to drive with it.

  • @The221wyo
    @The221wyo Před 4 lety +11

    that ping-pong ball test was groundbreaking

  • @roger3858
    @roger3858 Před 4 lety +51

    I wish America still had pride in its products and nationalism like it used to in these old videos... thanks for making me feel like I was born 40 years too late

    • @megabyte7047
      @megabyte7047 Před 4 lety +5

      Roger I don’t think the 70s are a good decade to highlight American’s pride in their work. American cars were crap back then and spawned the rise of Japanese cars.

    • @kataccord1968
      @kataccord1968 Před 4 lety +1

      @@megabyte7047 Well... that and the oil crisis. Muricans couldn't figure out how to make a good small engine

    • @kylestewart8049
      @kylestewart8049 Před 4 lety +1

      As someone who grew up in the 70s and 80s I can say that living through those times no way would you say that was the good all days. Every one was poor and struggled to make a living. Looking back after 30-40 years all you remember are the good times and what now seems like a simple time in history. much like the time you’re living in now, you would say no way is it the good ol days. but in 30 years you’re gonna look back and say man! The birth the Internet and cellphones all that stuff was the good all days!

    • @timfremstad3434
      @timfremstad3434 Před 3 lety

      @@kylestewart8049 What the hell do you mean everyone was poor????? No they weren't, my Dad was an enlisted man in the Navy(which aint exactly a high paying job), and we weren't poor, we weren't rich either, but we didn't lack for anything.... YOU may have been poor, but the whole country wasn't....the only thing I agree with you on is that later generations look at our time wistfully, like we looked on the 50s wistfully, like the next generation will look on the 80s and 90s wistfully

  • @karlhiggins5765
    @karlhiggins5765 Před 4 lety +13

    Those were the days, we would go to grandma's house on Sunday. After about 2hrs it never failed. One uncle drove a Chevy, one uncle drove a Ford. Always ended with them fighting over which truck was the best. Those were the good ole days. Lol

    • @joshhoman
      @joshhoman Před rokem

      At that point Granny should have said"Both you boys knock it off or I'll go outside, light both your stupid trucks on fire and we can see which one BURNS best!

    • @Carla-tz7qw
      @Carla-tz7qw Před rokem

      No one was bragging about dodge. They were low bid until they borrowed the Cummins.

  • @davidaustin9927
    @davidaustin9927 Před 4 lety +10

    This is when Gm took pride in building the best truck on earth

    • @paulwatson4189
      @paulwatson4189 Před rokem

      And they were usually 300 pds lighter after a couple yrs from all the rust eating away the rockers and bed .

    • @weskirkland5850
      @weskirkland5850 Před rokem

      My 78 C20 was built like crap. I love it and will never give it up but body fit was garbage and there were 5 different place on it you could see the primer through the paint. it was in excellent condition with 79k on it when i got it, always garaged. the chevy vs ford debate then was ford was way more primitive. if you've ever worked on both ford had stuff in the 70s chevy had in the early 60's. good reliable trucks both but gm was 7 years ahead all the time until the late 80's.

  • @edwardpate6128
    @edwardpate6128 Před 4 lety +57

    I had a 75 Chevy Beauville van back during the 80's. Drove that thing to hell and back. One of the most durable and reliable vehicles I've ever had.

    • @BuzzLOLOL
      @BuzzLOLOL Před 4 lety

      And worst MPG...

    • @chevyguy6961
      @chevyguy6961 Před 3 lety +9

      @@BuzzLOLOL Gas was cheap back then and fuel mileage wasn't as important.

    • @melrose9252
      @melrose9252 Před 2 lety

      @@chevyguy6961 < Yes mileage was important back then.

    • @edwardpate6128
      @edwardpate6128 Před rokem +1

      @@melrose9252 Gas was cheap and I had money to buy it so I didn't worry about it.

    • @patrickmcgoldrick8234
      @patrickmcgoldrick8234 Před 10 měsíci

      They were a nice driving van.

  • @alexeatonexploresamerica5511

    This video mean a lot to me. I love Chevy

  • @PhaQ2
    @PhaQ2 Před 4 lety +36

    I miss my Chevy step side. So reliable.
    It ran all the way to the junkyard, and then they used it as a yard car.
    Until scrap metal prices skyrocketed really high and the yard sold all it's inventory.

  • @billyrayvalentine7972
    @billyrayvalentine7972 Před 4 lety +51

    I bought a brand new 1976 F250 camper special with a 460. Man it was a great Truck. I always thought the Chevy looked better but that Ford hauled many a trailer's with no problems. Good times

  • @brendas.1374
    @brendas.1374 Před 2 lety +5

    I miss my 1976 Chevy C-10 Custom Deluxe truck. It was a short bed with a 350 V8. I paid $1,900 for it in 1983. It had no rust and it was a California truck.

    • @ajw9172
      @ajw9172 Před rokem

      Now just think today that truck is worth more than $ 19,000.

    • @chrispaulson2934
      @chrispaulson2934 Před rokem +1

      Had an 84 Silverado 4x4 when I lived in NC. Beautiful truck. But the worst I ever owned..always failing me. I traded it for a 74 C-10 Custom Deluxe. Same as yours being a short bed and 350 V8. It was 3 shades of black and rusted through. It never let me down. I was hoping to make it a tribute truck of the one in "The Driver" . Sold it for $1,200 4 years ago. Almost overnight these trucks became the next big thing and still are.

  • @matt59736
    @matt59736 Před 4 lety +48

    I love these commercials that they make the opponent's vehicle look really bad like the guy was pounding on the roofer of the Ford and then he barely touched the roof on the Chevy. I grew up with these things in the 90s in northern Michigan. And I still drive them to this day that's all I run. They both rusted the Chevy little bit more than the Ford. I've had them alll Chevy Ford and Dodge. I praised them all and cussed them all. And I still won't own a truck newer than 86.

    • @herpnderpn2484
      @herpnderpn2484 Před 4 lety +2

      Chevy is still the smoothest riding truck I've ever owned. Never owned a Ford, but driven many. I currently own 3 dodges, the Chevy, and a Toyota. Chevy rides better than all of them.
      They all break though.

    • @dyer2cycle
      @dyer2cycle Před 4 lety +7

      ..yes, when they gained computers(even basic ones) and plastic headlights, that is my cutoff date...I hated plastic headlights then, still do..It shocks me to see people pilling the nice glass sealed beams out of their 90's-2000's Jeep wranglers and XJ's, pickups and sticking those awful looking plastic replacements with the rows of little LED's in them :(

    • @herpnderpn2484
      @herpnderpn2484 Před 4 lety +2

      @@dyer2cycle
      Oh man, most of those plastic LEDs are absolute junk. And, you can but higher wattage lights or throw some KC Daylighters on top if you desire.

    • @noneofyourbusiness3553
      @noneofyourbusiness3553 Před 4 lety +8

      The comparable model to the C10 would have been the F-150... They wouldn't want to compare apples to apples or anything like that now.

    • @dyer2cycle
      @dyer2cycle Před 4 lety +5

      @@noneofyourbusiness3553 ..no, the comparable model to the C-10 would have been the F-100..I don't think the F-150 came along until around 1976..The F-150 was mostly born as a way to raise the GVW just above the threshold of having to use a catalytic converter..a way of skirting the emissions requirements of automobiles...the Chevy "Big 10" was Chevrolet's version of this...not sure what year it debuted...maybe 1977?....

  • @hthouston3924
    @hthouston3924 Před 4 lety +48

    Now days additional features cost more than this 70's trucks

    • @yaboidustin2447
      @yaboidustin2447 Před 3 lety +2

      Unfortunately you're right

    • @u-shanks4915
      @u-shanks4915 Před 2 lety

      Which is ridiculous most of it is made in China
      But we have options
      Go to other states to find one

  • @bloqk16
    @bloqk16 Před rokem +8

    I recall when my older brother got a Chevy 3/4 (three-quarter) ton Custom pickup in 1974. The nice aspect of going with the 3/4 ton rating was with the commercial vehicle classification it had when it came to engine smog equipment: It had none.
    He worked as a Chevy dealership mechanic at the time; and with the access he had to accessory pieces, he rebranded the Custom model to a Cheyenne version. That bit of deception bothered me. It was also a hint of the person he became in later decades.

  • @bechtoea
    @bechtoea Před 4 lety +76

    I love how they say the Chevy is built to prevent rust. Let me tell you, a 1974 Chevy would rust off the frame within 3 years. I know as my family had one.

    • @lelandfranklin3487
      @lelandfranklin3487 Před 4 lety +1

      Exactly! They just rusted right off the frame. Must have been the plexiglas on the side...

    • @tomfairbourn6998
      @tomfairbourn6998 Před 4 lety +7

      This had me laughing my 73 was the biggest rust bucket I ever owned. really turned me off of GM products

    • @bechtoea
      @bechtoea Před 4 lety +5

      @@tomfairbourn6998 Chevrolet was the #1 truck up till the 73's came out. The rust issue was the single thing that put Ford at #1.

    • @lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930
      @lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930 Před 4 lety +5

      @Jeff Ring I had a 75 GMC Sierra that you had to hold your feet up if you hit a waterhole in the road to keep your feet from getting soaked.

    • @bayareanewman1566
      @bayareanewman1566 Před 4 lety +1

      So they rusted a lot. Sounds like everybody is in agreement. So what caused the rust? A Cost cutting measure they conveniently didn’t mention here? Anybody have any ideas? I’m curious as to everyone’s thoughts since a lot of the commentators here had one in their lives

  • @DeanMk1
    @DeanMk1 Před 4 lety +13

    Ha! right on. My dad had a '74 Chevy half ton. Long and wide, it had a 250 with 3 on the tree. It was a "Custom" and such a plain jane, the local dealership had to call around other dealers to see if anyone had one. 3 days later he found one.
    We had that truck for 20 years. I remember many hunting trips in that truck. Never failed us. =)

    • @ffarmchicken
      @ffarmchicken Před 4 lety +7

      DeanMk1
      I just picked up a 70 GMC bare bones with the 250, three on the tree. An old school district truck at a junk yard. This thing is super simple, after sitting for three years with old gas, put in a charged battery, poured a dash of clean fresh gas down the carb, fired right up! Amazing. Try that with any new truck under the same circumstances.

    • @KevinRichards-rk3gp
      @KevinRichards-rk3gp Před rokem +1

      Back in the day when power steering & power brakes were optional. Nowadays everything has them.

    • @DeanMk1
      @DeanMk1 Před rokem

      @@ffarmchicken That's one of the great things about older vehicles. No dam Government instituted CAFE ratings to push the auto makers into making shit more and more complicated.
      It only takes air, fuel and spark to make an engine run. Everything else is bullshit.

    • @DeanMk1
      @DeanMk1 Před rokem

      @@KevinRichards-rk3gp Yes sir. My dad's truck did have power front disc brakes, but you rowed your own gears and steering was by armstrong.
      Even though I'm older now, I still miss that.

    • @KevinRichards-rk3gp
      @KevinRichards-rk3gp Před rokem

      @@DeanMk1 what was cool about those generation Chevys, GMCs, & Fords back in those days when they were new was they didn't have recalls like the vehicles nowadays.

  • @jeffreythomas4511
    @jeffreythomas4511 Před 4 lety +10

    I had a 1977 Chevrolet pick-up. I have kicked myself for years for getting rid of it. Loved it. Never left me stranded.

    • @VIccs826
      @VIccs826 Před 4 lety

      Jeffrey THomas buy an ‘87 K10 then, I’m sure you could find a cheap one and fix it up

  • @Nate......
    @Nate...... Před 3 lety +9

    I got a 97 Silverado Z71. I don't think that truck can die. I drive the hell out of it. do everything under the sun. still a beast!

    • @wilsterone6689
      @wilsterone6689 Před rokem

      I've got a 93 k1500. 375k all original except brakes and battery. Runs and drives like the day I bought it in 1994.

  • @lancelotlink3907
    @lancelotlink3907 Před 3 lety +14

    My dad had a 76 GMC Van with the 400 4 barrel. I took it to high school once and removed the engine cover and took my friends for a drive so we all could watch the 4 barrels opening up. Good times.

    • @DeanMk1
      @DeanMk1 Před rokem +1

      The ol' Rochester "WHOOOO", when the secondary's kick open.
      Here's a reminder of good times gone by...
      czcams.com/video/DCMUr3c6X70/video.html

    • @lancelotlink3907
      @lancelotlink3907 Před rokem

      @@DeanMk1 Yes the Quadrajet. I got really good at rebuilding those things. Thanks for the cool video.

  • @tonywilson2530
    @tonywilson2530 Před 4 lety +8

    My first pickup was a 1976 Chevrolet Scottsdale in the very same color scheme red/white two tone. Loved that pickup. Wish I never sold it

    • @KevinRichards-rk3gp
      @KevinRichards-rk3gp Před rokem

      You'll find another one out there. I still see some of those generation Chevrolet & GMC fullsize pickups on the roads today, just not as many as I use to back in those days. Those generation Fords on the other hand are super rare nowadays, & the easiest way to find one of them is online.

  • @dwcoop5390
    @dwcoop5390 Před 4 lety +35

    We bought a 74 Ford brand new factory order.. was a great truck

  • @BELCAN57
    @BELCAN57 Před 4 lety +33

    When trucks were built like trucks, not cars like today.

    • @heavymetalmadness666
      @heavymetalmadness666 Před 4 lety +1

      LOL I thought that way at one time. I had a 63 chevy 3/4 ton 4x4 283 4 speed trans.It could not do what my 97 4.6 ford F150 could do work wise and the ford wasn't torture to drive.That just isn't a ford vs Chevy situation.Go back just one year to 96 and I would want nothing to do with the 150, and I'm sure the 63 ford would be a joke as well when compared to modern trucks.

    • @100texan2
      @100texan2 Před 4 lety +3

      Robert Presti Jr but it’s all they had back then and they seemed to get a lot of work done with them. I guess when that’s all you know and all you got they seemed great. Of course those old vehicles weren’t as safe as today’s vehicles if you got in an accident. There’s pros and cons in everything but it seems a half ton pickup today will do what a 3/4 ton will do today just a lot of of plastic in today’s vehicles and more complicated. I tell you one thing, I don’t miss working on carburetors and distributor points.

    • @danieldavis9832
      @danieldavis9832 Před 3 lety +1

      Back when you could just throw the camper in the bed. Now they give you beds you can barely fit a bicycle in

    • @timbuk1126
      @timbuk1126 Před 3 lety

      Dude trucks today are tough as hell. Go look at the crash test results yourself.

    • @nathanmcdonald610
      @nathanmcdonald610 Před 2 lety

      @@100texan2 The flip side was that any joe blow could figure out a carburetor in a day or two. Today you pretty much have to be an engineer to do any serious work on a modern fuel injection system.

  • @wizardmix
    @wizardmix Před 4 lety +18

    I'm here for the canned 70's music, the wow/flutter and the gritty cigarette saturated voice.

    • @timbuk1126
      @timbuk1126 Před 3 lety +1

      Wow/flutter?

    • @wizardmix
      @wizardmix Před 3 lety +2

      @@timbuk1126 recording terms referring to the way old tape and/or a poorly calibrated tape machine sounds.
      WOW -- is the fast and slow pitch shifting you hear making it sound "drunk"
      FLUTTER -- is the jumpy buffeting you hear where it sounds like a person is speaking underwater.
      While these were once problems that needed to be avoided in the recording industry, in the last 25 to 30 years, wow/flutter has increasing been used as a desirable affect in recordings. There are countless tape simulation plug-ins on recording software and effects pedals that incorporate Wow/Flutter.

    • @youthmanrecords965
      @youthmanrecords965 Před 2 lety

      @@wizardmix Yeah there’s plenty of VST plug-ins that emulate grainy saturated tape real to reel sound with wow & flutter variations !

    • @wizardmix
      @wizardmix Před 2 lety

      @@youthmanrecords965 I use a few of them🤙

    • @jamesrecknor6752
      @jamesrecknor6752 Před rokem +1

      Johnny Carson had the best cigarette voice

  • @Boxpok
    @Boxpok Před 4 lety +11

    A good friend of mine had a 74 W200 4x4 Dodge Power Wagon, that's when trucks weren't play toys like today.

  • @angelo_giachetti
    @angelo_giachetti Před 2 lety +3

    My dad bought a new 74 C10 6 cyl. It had 1 option, an automatic trans. Was a good solid truck.

  • @user-vz2ei3sb7r
    @user-vz2ei3sb7r Před 4 lety +6

    Love these old Commercials remind me of my childhood. My opinion vehicles where made a lot tougher. Back then 💪

    • @timbuk1126
      @timbuk1126 Před 3 lety

      They were actually really unsafe compared to now. Go look up the classic 50s Bel Air/Malibu crash test.

  • @danc506
    @danc506 Před 3 lety +6

    These kind of comparisons need to come back

    • @weskirkland5850
      @weskirkland5850 Před rokem

      There would be lawsuits all back and forth so bad they'd lose money nowadays.

  • @Mr_Chris77
    @Mr_Chris77 Před 4 lety +8

    I came here to read the pissing match in the comments section.

  • @THEFALLOFSONY
    @THEFALLOFSONY Před 4 lety +7

    What's crazy is I still see those old square body Chevys still on the roads while those old Fords are long gone.

    • @dennislangston487
      @dennislangston487 Před 4 lety +2

      The square bodies you see are mostly late 80's. Late 80's Fords are 2 series away from mid 70's. I see plenty of early to mid 70's Fords . Not so much Chevies . Maybe it is what you look for.

    • @THEFALLOFSONY
      @THEFALLOFSONY Před 4 lety

      dennis langston Doesn't matter the decade I just don't see older Fords compared to older GMs, in fact it's not uncommon to see an old GM scrap truck with a Ford tailgate on it.

    • @mebe2k
      @mebe2k Před 4 lety +1

      Come to the PNW...lots of old 70s fords still running around...70s Chevy/GMC are few and far between.

  • @JoeL-re1dc
    @JoeL-re1dc Před 4 lety +9

    Being someone that owned a half dozen square bodies, starting with a "73....... your special, tough, super duper, triple part fenders, weren't so great..............lol

    • @ffarmchicken
      @ffarmchicken Před 4 lety +2

      Joe L
      First thing I thought. They sure are hard to find without rust in the Midwest. Lots of nooks and crannies for moisture to sit and eat away around spotwelds.

    • @jeremybennett5547
      @jeremybennett5547 Před 3 lety

      Learn as you go I guess. Sure it seemed like a good idea at the time

  • @bk14nyc
    @bk14nyc Před rokem +1

    I had a BEAUTIFUL 1977 Ford F-250 Trailer Special with the 460 V8 with Factory Ice Cold A/C. I use to Trailer my 1970 Ford Galaxie XL 429 N Code Thunder Jet. Lost it in Hurricane Sandy in 2012. I couldn’t sleep for Months after that! 😞

  • @paulne1514
    @paulne1514 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Coming from a ford family, I had to buy a Chevy truck. It is the best (back then and probably even today) for carrying a slide in camper. The deluxe camper pkg, came from the factory with frame mounted tie downs, shocks in the front of the bed, connected to the cab and front stabilizers. Plus the lowest center of gravity, even with 4x4. At 8,400 lbs, it rides almost as smooth as my 91 Lincoln Mark 7.

  • @jeffreylines1535
    @jeffreylines1535 Před 4 lety +6

    I remember Dad's half a 1975 blazer, I say half because that thing had so much rust the door skins flapped on the highway. The engine was rock solid but the body was worse than swiss cheese. Seems like the 73-76 GM pickups in our area were horribly rusty. Dad's blazer was so gone by 1986 that we pulled the engine and let the rest dissolve on the farm. The truck that offered value was the 72, so glad we kept that one!

    • @231mac
      @231mac Před 4 lety +2

      No idea where you people that keep claiming this live, but there are 70's models all over the place in the south.

    • @ericl2969
      @ericl2969 Před 4 lety +3

      @@231mac We live in the north! There was a span of a few years in the mid-1970s when Chevy trucks would start rusting the very same year that you bought them, and a few years later, there would be rust everywhere and the lower 1/3 of the doors would be gone. The other brands rusted really badly too in those days, but for that particular span of time, Chevy/GMC was quite a bit worse.

  • @tomtbi
    @tomtbi Před 4 lety +10

    Thanks for keeping the videos coming through tough times..

  • @mistered9435
    @mistered9435 Před 4 lety +52

    I really liked yesterday’s CHEVROLET, but modern-day, real people are getting the heartbreak of America, and it runs deep, because GM’s quality has dropped like a rock

    • @herpnderpn2484
      @herpnderpn2484 Před 4 lety +6

      To be fair, it's really hard to screw up quality control of a painted metal dash. It was true then, and now. They are building what the consumer wants..... A new vehicle every 5 years and as many bells and whistles as possible. And no metal dashes

    • @mikemoscato2995
      @mikemoscato2995 Před 4 lety +2

      Yeah the new chevys electronics when they go wrong the motto like a rock,IT JUST SITS THERE😎

    • @galesams4205
      @galesams4205 Před 4 lety +4

      will still go with the ford.

    • @mistered9435
      @mistered9435 Před 3 lety

      @Hunter is a rat I love the 73-80 square bodies. In the 90’s, my brother restored (2) 1976 Silverado 4x4’s. Both black with red interior, both with 400 sbc. They were restored to pure stock and I drove one of them for several months. Loved that truck.

    • @brandonbell3089
      @brandonbell3089 Před 2 lety

      @@galesams4205 I will never want to walk 😂😂

  • @alexeatonexploresamerica5511

    I wish there were more old chevys around

  • @kennethsunderland6676
    @kennethsunderland6676 Před 4 lety +5

    I have a 74 and hope to get it back on the road in September! Mine is the same color combo and is a Cheyenne Super too! Been in my family since 89! Thanks for sharing this video!

  • @jessefarley4609
    @jessefarley4609 Před 4 lety +8

    I love these trucks as much as rust does lol

  • @iwanaGoFast2010
    @iwanaGoFast2010 Před 4 lety +20

    I never trust companies that have to explain how good they are.

    • @nathanmcdonald610
      @nathanmcdonald610 Před 2 lety +1

      That's been GM's schtick for decades now. I find it hilarious how they'll dog on Ford for something new and then in model year or two they'll implement the same thing on their own trucks. The most recent example of which was when Ford went to aluminum body panels over steel.

  • @richardcraniumdicksinn3959
    @richardcraniumdicksinn3959 Před 4 lety +16

    Since 1974' 80% of Chevy trucks are still on the road.
    The other 20% made it home. Lol.
    Both trucks are very nice, I've owned a few of each & liked both brands.

  • @boomermarr
    @boomermarr Před 4 lety +11

    I've owned both brands and loved both for different reasons. Watching this made me think that if GM only knew how bad their trucks would rot away,they wouldn't be tauting about how great the truck is built to prevent rust.

    • @dennislangston487
      @dennislangston487 Před 4 lety +5

      That is an old, old advertising trick. Pick your weakest point and promote it as a strength so potential buyers will just look right past it.

    • @ffarmchicken
      @ffarmchicken Před 4 lety +4

      I agree. I have both trucks and both have rust equally bad, I’m in the salty Midwest.

    • @datrevmeister
      @datrevmeister Před 9 měsíci

      How do they rot? I purchased an 87 GMC Sierra about 8 years ago that had never had any work on it done, and there was no rust on it.

    • @boomermarr
      @boomermarr Před 9 měsíci

      @@datrevmeister first, let me say that I was speaking in general terms. There are always outliers to a circumstance. Secondly, it also depends on where you live and how the vehicle is maintained and whether it stayed outside or was kept and stored indoor. I live in the south eastern part of the country and we have very humid weather and a lot of road salt used in the winter. Chevrolet,especially trucks used for farm work rusts terribly. 70's and 80's Chevrolet trucks rust especially bad. All that said, if you have a good, solid, rust free Chevrolet truck then kudos to you. You have a truck that has been pampered for most of its life. Enjoy your vintage Chevy and be very glad it wasn't used and abused all its life.

  • @roncoburn7771
    @roncoburn7771 Před 4 lety +3

    I love these old Chevy commercials

  • @marksimpson2451
    @marksimpson2451 Před 4 lety +2

    Bought a 75 Silverado in 77. The box was rusted out by 80 and the doors and can corners by 82.loved it so much I bought a 74 GMC Sierra to replace it.lol

  • @Trance88
    @Trance88 Před 4 lety +2

    Gotta love that funky mid-70's background music on the second part (1976 model year vehicles). I love the fabric pattern on the van seats. Everything today has to be grey or black fabric, pleather, or leather.

  • @ltunedkc
    @ltunedkc Před 4 lety +4

    Well I am a Ford guy and this video shows how you can rig anything to make your product look good. But if I came across a clean C10 I would love to have it.

  • @geirmyklebust
    @geirmyklebust Před 4 lety +5

    My daily drive last 3.5 years is my 74 El Camino, old Arizona car. Just love this car, way more than my previous MB-220-CDI. Its .... kind of costly, BTW.

  • @freerepublicusa2064
    @freerepublicusa2064 Před 4 lety +2

    The best Chevy/gmc trucks and be everywhere owned was the 2003-2007 2500hd. Mine is 06 Duramax LBZ. This truck is by far better than the new ones. I’ve beat the heck out of it and it runs and runs. Great brakes, ice cold a/c. Tough torsion suspension.

  • @gregorybeers5831
    @gregorybeers5831 Před 2 lety +1

    I just traded my 2019 Mitsubishi Outlander in and in its place purchased a 1999 Chevy suburban with a 350 4 Speed automatic and I’m very happy I’m finally driving a vehicle that I wanted to have looking back I was always looking for a vehicle like the older Chevy trucks and I feel in love with them ever since my dad bought his 1973 Chevy Cheyenne super 10 and it was the first vehicle I would tune up an engine on and years later perform body work on.Chevy Rules the other drools!!!

  • @TexasHarleyBoy65
    @TexasHarleyBoy65 Před 4 lety +17

    After Ford mastered the all important 'Ping Pong Ball Test', they never looked back. I know in 40 years of driving pickups, how important it is to show up, with your balls still in your goblet......

    • @dennislangston487
      @dennislangston487 Před 4 lety +3

      I wonder how much air they let out of the Chevy tires before that test.

    • @jasonpark5906
      @jasonpark5906 Před 4 lety +1

      I read “ping pong ball test” in the narrators voice in my head.

  • @dolnick7
    @dolnick7 Před 4 lety +20

    Vehicles had classic designs back then. Like a Stratocaster, they couldn't be improved. Most of today's vehicles -- if you can even tell them apart -- look like crap.

    • @heavymetalmadness666
      @heavymetalmadness666 Před 4 lety +1

      If I post three pics of a 1930 Ford, Chevy, or Dodge my guess is you would label them wrong All cars look the same by decade for the most part. Now the part of that that one could argue is well over time more models were being made rather than one main car with different trim levels.

    • @kevinrichards3288
      @kevinrichards3288 Před 3 lety +2

      The brand new body style on the Chevy Silverados looks cool tho.

    • @mr.nobody68
      @mr.nobody68 Před 3 lety

      Stratocasters suck though. Horrible comparison.
      You need a McCarty 594 to compare

    • @garybell523
      @garybell523 Před 3 lety

      Most cars today look like a dog taking a shit.

  • @madgav935
    @madgav935 Před 27 dny

    I love how they tell us right away who they think is better

  • @stevedeleon8775
    @stevedeleon8775 Před rokem +1

    My first Brand New vehicle I bought was a 1981 GMC High Sierra 1/2 ton fleetside short bed two tone paint Metallic Root Beer Brown & Artic White Quarter Panels & Cab

  • @BuzzLOLOL
    @BuzzLOLOL Před 4 lety +6

    I want the '57 GMC pickup with stock Pontiac 347" V8 and 4 speed Hydramatic transmission and positraction...
    Ford pickup shown is the 'dentside'... full length dent down the side... sometimes filled with optional trim...

    • @dennislangston487
      @dennislangston487 Před 4 lety +1

      I think my cousin owned that 57 for a while. The Pontiac engine was sitting on 2x4 blocks with short log chains holding it down...lol

  • @marine4lyfe85
    @marine4lyfe85 Před 2 lety +3

    That K5 Blazer 4-wheel drive is so sweet. I always loved the removable cap on the rear.

  • @Lvatopesado
    @Lvatopesado Před 4 lety +2

    Good comparison, 3/4 ton chevy vs 1/2 ton ford.

    • @ericl2969
      @ericl2969 Před 4 lety +1

      Um, no. Both were half-ton trucks, no question about it. I was around in those days and can spot the difference between 1/2-ton and 3/4-ton trucks of any brand from those days in an instant.

  • @seanonwalkercreek.7356
    @seanonwalkercreek.7356 Před 3 lety +1

    The Narrator Sounds like the Legendary "Winnebago Man"!😁👍

  • @gearbanger57
    @gearbanger57 Před 4 lety +5

    Chevy was just getting back in the truck game after building those lame coil spring trucks, my dad always bought GMC's. I've owned em all, even Dodges, through the years and they all have their downfalls. Bought a new truck last year and after driving them all i got a GMC, I'm happy with it.

    • @ericl2969
      @ericl2969 Před 4 lety

      You mean the coil springs in the rear? Yeah, that was a bad design. The link arms would wear out and you could stand at the back end and slide the body back and forth over the axle! They had a really "boingy" ride in the back end too!

  • @davidgarris2513
    @davidgarris2513 Před 4 lety +3

    To be fair , for years if you combine the Chevy AND GMC sales , it's about the same as Ford. The actual difference is less than we are led to believe.

  • @squangan
    @squangan Před 9 měsíci +1

    My family owned both when they came out. My father had a ‘77 F250 4x4 crewcab Custom with a 351W 4 speed in it, and my older brother had a ‘77 GMC Sierra 3/4 ton 2wd with a 454 and four speed in it. They were both good trucks but I remember my father calling that 351W a gutless wonder, it had little power and sometimes pulling steep hills he’d have to drop it right down into 2nd gear.

    • @ilovecops5499
      @ilovecops5499 Před 9 měsíci

      3+5+1 = 9. 999 - 666! Chevrolet 350. 3+5+0 = 8. 454 = 4+5+4 = 13, Friday the 13th. They are occult.

  • @deadlion9197
    @deadlion9197 Před rokem

    This is funny to say the least "Here we have steel and cast iron, we think the steel is stronger but you be the judge". In 1974 they were all great.

  • @Bigdog302V8
    @Bigdog302V8 Před 4 lety +5

    Both were very Good Trucks, the 1973-87 Chevy and GMC trucks were prone to rusting out bust if you want to restore them, you can get the parts to do so, Same with the Fords and both makes have a Plethora of Engines to work with. when it comes to the six cylinders I lean towards the Ford 240 and 300 CID and the Chevy 292 and pretty much all 8 cylinder engines are great choices.

  • @02autogt
    @02autogt Před 4 lety +22

    After the rest of that Chevrolet rusted away the tailpipe was still laying there...

    • @bechtoea
      @bechtoea Před 4 lety +2

      That's BS. The tailpipe rusted away too. :)

  • @alexeatonexploresamerica5511

    I drive a 87 Chevy and I love up

  • @timokuusela5794
    @timokuusela5794 Před 4 lety +2

    I have a -79 Blazer, owned it for 35 years now. And, it has an Optima battery that is now about 30 years old. They do not make trucks and batteries like that any more. If Chevy started to make the K-5 Blazer again, I think I am not the only one to buy it. Just add a modern V 8 and not much more is needed. I also have a Hummer H3, and the feeling I have when driving it is that it may break at any moment; everything is too electronic and fancy...

  • @jimbotheassclown
    @jimbotheassclown Před 4 lety +20

    I love GM trucks they help pay my mortgage plenty of times with the rust repairs and cracked frames lol .

    • @lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930
      @lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930 Před 4 lety +3

      LOL,that's what a mechanic shop owner friend of mine says about GM transmissions and he drives Dodges.

    • @crowdnine878
      @crowdnine878 Před 3 lety +4

      My family has had nothing but Chevrolet since 1962. I see far more old Chevys on the road than Ford or Dodge. Period.

    • @masonfranta
      @masonfranta Před 3 lety

      I think you mean Ford Chevy is way more stylish and doesn’t rust as easy as Ford and look at the video the Chevy had everything better then the Ford!

  • @merc-ni7hy
    @merc-ni7hy Před 4 lety +68

    ppl who bought the chevy soon learned that the frame would crack around the steering box...and the hood would bend after while cuzz the hinges would get stiff ..and they didnt tell you that ford used alot of galvanized steel where chevy didnt..and anyone who lives in a snow state would soon realize the chevy was a real rot box ,,and the fords rocker panels would last alot longer then the chevy's

  • @rossgreenzweig
    @rossgreenzweig Před 3 lety +2

    The chevy vehicles are beautiful!! The Sportvan would be my pick, jist love the looks and interior 👌

  • @spartan005u8
    @spartan005u8 Před rokem

    As I'm mainly a ford guy but these old competitive commercials are great I do respect dodge and chevy love them all tbh

  • @djsonfire0001
    @djsonfire0001 Před 4 lety +6

    Chevy was dope back in the day!

    • @lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930
      @lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930 Před 4 lety +3

      More like junk,from all the ones I worked on for all my family and friends.

    • @djsonfire0001
      @djsonfire0001 Před 4 lety +1

      @@lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930 well I definitely believe if somebody does the upkeep on a vehicle no matter what brand it is it lasts there are so many people that don't and they just go to crap then they have problems everywhere. My 70 2wd short box was phenomenal bone stock!

    • @djsonfire0001
      @djsonfire0001 Před 4 lety

      @@lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930 what's your fav truck and year?

    • @lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930
      @lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930 Před 4 lety +1

      @@djsonfire0001 I've owned several different F series trucks of different models,but I've always had a thing for the 1959 or 1960 model F100, my daddy traded for one at one time and let me play with it and drive it around our community. I always liked those trucks.

  • @ProjectFairmont
    @ProjectFairmont Před 4 lety +19

    The GM had better engines and steering, however it did not measure up to the Ford in terms of ride, suspension travel, body integrity and rust resistance. I think the 70s Fords have an enduring quality, not surprising as they were designed in 1967.

    • @Lvatopesado
      @Lvatopesado Před 4 lety

      @Warren - Same here.

    • @chrismontreuil2206
      @chrismontreuil2206 Před 4 lety +2

      @Randy Wiesendanger except the rust department.

    • @theguy9234
      @theguy9234 Před 4 lety +1

      Id have to disagree with the Chevy having the better engines. They had one good sbc v8. The 400 sbc wasn't a good work engine, unless the overheating issues were fixed. The 454 was ok but only option. Ford had over 4 fe big blocks to pick from for the truck.

    • @christianmotley262
      @christianmotley262 Před 3 lety +5

      Ford didn't have better ride

    • @lancelotlink3907
      @lancelotlink3907 Před 3 lety +1

      @@theguy9234 Dad had a 1976 400 4 barrel GMC Van and we never had overheating problems but it came with an over-sized radiator because it had dual AC front and back. Mom had the 1972 Ford 400 2 barrel in her LTD and that was just as reliable. We lived in desert to with 110 temps. That said Dad and I kept up the maintenance most of it done in the driveway.

  • @darthvader4hire
    @darthvader4hire Před 4 lety +1

    i own a 74 C-10 Cheyenne Super its the pale blue (like hawiaan blue) and white color combo. factory 454, A/C dual tanks PS PB black interior and get this, a wood bed floor. i bought it for myself as mt 18th birthday present many a year ago and really loved driving it. it has the typical issues such as the famous body rot and the bed floor is getting really weak looking. and the old BBC...well lets say when it starts knocking LOUDER than normal (been that way for decades) you have to stop and add oil and whilst stopped check the fuel level LOL!!!

  • @broughswenson651
    @broughswenson651 Před 4 lety +2

    Ah the old "ping pong ball challenge!"

  • @davidaustin9927
    @davidaustin9927 Před 3 lety +3

    That's when chevy engineers built the best truck an the company wasn't so cheap they really cared about what they built

  • @bengomes8845
    @bengomes8845 Před 4 lety +13

    These days the Chevy because parts are plentiful, but rather have the ford with a 300 inline 6

    • @ffarmchicken
      @ffarmchicken Před 4 lety

      I’ve got two of those fords. But also have two of the Chevy 250 inline sixes with three on the tree. All four run the same to me.

    • @mr.nobody68
      @mr.nobody68 Před 3 lety

      Somebody wasn't paying attention

  • @timhede9560
    @timhede9560 Před rokem +1

    I have a 73 c20 Chevy. Runs great. Tough truck. Chevy is tough...

  • @Hot80s
    @Hot80s Před 4 lety +2

    my first truck was a 77 sierra 2x4 i loved it

  • @93sundance
    @93sundance Před 4 lety +18

    I'll take a K-10 and a K-5 PLEASE.

    • @TysonNeil
      @TysonNeil Před 4 lety +3

      I've had both at different times. Still have the K5 although it needs a bit of work. A barn resident for a long time.

  • @mrglock2313
    @mrglock2313 Před 4 lety +7

    My 1975 Ford f100 still on the road zero rust. Pull up to a 7 year old Chevy rust bucket at a red light. Turn head and grin, light turns green, I grin again with my 460 big block. 😆

    • @ryanfrederick4889
      @ryanfrederick4889 Před 4 lety

      And they smoke you off the line with a 6cyl that 3x your gas mileage! Then they grin. I'm just kidding around! I have a 72 with a big block i get it.

  • @dwaynecollins4974
    @dwaynecollins4974 Před 3 lety +1

    Love it! And every bit of it is true..

  • @diablo666541
    @diablo666541 Před rokem

    My dad had 72 Chevy that was a solid truck . I learned how to drive in that truck . Miss m both

  • @Muttleytech
    @Muttleytech Před 4 lety +6

    I'm all for improved rear entry.

    • @megabyte7047
      @megabyte7047 Před 4 lety +1

      Mutleytech Too easy and it’s not enjoyable, right?

    • @ryant282a
      @ryant282a Před 4 lety +1

      😂👍

    • @neillowy
      @neillowy Před 4 lety +2

      ...with less chance of your balls bouncing around...

    • @nunyabussiness4054
      @nunyabussiness4054 Před 4 lety +1

      That's where I like to place all my big loads.

  • @ypop417
    @ypop417 Před 4 lety +3

    Love those 70's clothes so much polyester LOL

  • @91SanCheZ7
    @91SanCheZ7 Před 4 lety +1

    #1 Chevrolet trucks always all over the roads ,

  • @freerepublicusa2064
    @freerepublicusa2064 Před 4 lety +2

    I’d take any of the old trucks in that condition

    • @ffarmchicken
      @ffarmchicken Před 4 lety

      FreeRepublicUSA
      I have two fords and two chevys of that era. Both are way better than a new truck. At least I can fix them in my garage with hand tools and a shop manual. My new 2017 Ford, forget it. Computers, computers, computers. 👎🏼

  • @dsma2023
    @dsma2023 Před 4 lety +8

    46 years later, nothing has changed.

    • @nightbot706
      @nightbot706 Před 4 lety +10

      Alot has changed. Trucks are garbage now and selling points are how many crotch goblins you can fit in the back seat and how many USB ports it's got

    • @tacomas9602
      @tacomas9602 Před 4 lety +1

      @@nightbot706
      Can't get a manual trans

    • @SealofPerfection
      @SealofPerfection Před 4 lety +2

      @@nightbot706 True, but the trucks today will go far more miles, are faster, more comfortable, and tow/haul far more than old trucks ever could. A half ton now can haul more than a 3/4 ton did in the 70's.

    • @noahgaray7923
      @noahgaray7923 Před 4 lety

      Nightbot even this test was complete garbage. Look my balls move less than yours, my roof makes this noise when I poke it, etc. what kind of bullshit is that? They should’ve pointed out how Chevy offsets their rear shocks to counter axle wrap. GM commercials have always been trash, and always will be. Only GM I have Is a 72 cutlass supreme. Oldsmobile, miles above Chevy.

    • @Hot80s
      @Hot80s Před 4 lety

      bullplop!

  • @toddbob55
    @toddbob55 Před 4 lety +6

    Ford Trucks do have better Frames... My k10 Chevy is notorious for Cracks in the frame in many areas " watch Stacey Davids stunt Double " on youtube. Also the 9 inch rear Axle is also much stronger on the Fords . Fords were Tougher trucks but if you take care of any truck it should stick around awhile.

    • @TysonNeil
      @TysonNeil Před 4 lety

      My K10 had cracks at both rear shock mounts.

  • @SNAKERADIOS
    @SNAKERADIOS Před 2 lety +1

    Ah the Ford twin I beam had that horrible death bounce once the shocks got bad. I remember that well driving the f 100 of that vintage. Scared the crap out of me at 45 to 50 mph all of a sudden the steering wheel would shake violently and the wheels bounced up and down badly until you slowed down. Our 78 Chevy never did that. Square body rocks.

  • @claylyons6447
    @claylyons6447 Před měsícem

    Im sure the composition of the taillight lenses swayed many potential buyers. Taillight lens composition is serious stuff. Lol.

  • @idontcare3013
    @idontcare3013 Před 4 lety +11

    I'm definitely sold. I'll always pay the extra dollar for a Ford. I don't like spending time in the waiting room at the shop.

    • @lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930
      @lawnmowermanlawnmowerman9930 Před 4 lety +1

      LOL,you are so right Sir

    • @ericl2969
      @ericl2969 Před 4 lety +1

      They're all good at times, and they all break at times. An earthmoving contractor I know just switched their whole fleet from Ford to Chevy because the Fords were in the shop too much to suit them. But this can go either way, depending on the year, model, specific engines, transmissions, etc. Anyone claiming substantially better or worse quality based strictly on brand is speaking from emotional loyalties alone. On the other hand, certain brand-specific features could be better or worse than average. Ford's twin I-beam suspension was a bad idea from the beginning, with the tires swinging in semi-circles as the suspension moved up and down, leading to lateral movement (scuffing) of the tread and poor tire life. Chevy's independent front suspension in those days allowed a much more efficient compression and rebound (much less tire scuff) and it was remarkably rugged too. But I bet you could find other specific comparisons favoring Ford or other brands. I was always a fan of International, but they had their flaws too (especially rust).

  • @saxongreen78
    @saxongreen78 Před 4 lety +5

    '...our big dooley' ('dual-ie') 😊

    • @231mac
      @231mac Před 4 lety

      Not sure what you're trying to say, but he pronounced it right and it's 'Dually'.

    • @noahgaray7923
      @noahgaray7923 Před 4 lety

      231mac they callled it the big dooley

  • @marthabecker8734
    @marthabecker8734 Před 3 lety

    I've got a 1978 Chevy pickup fleet side with a 350 and a 4 barrel carb. not a lot of power and its got a hole in the floor. but it runs soo nice and is cool. its got an econo-gate on it

  • @louieatienza8762
    @louieatienza8762 Před 3 lety +2

    Imagine, these trucks have a lower unladen weight than today's Mustang or Challenger...

  • @dennisgriffey8448
    @dennisgriffey8448 Před 4 lety +8

    All the perfume in the world and its still just
    a chevy!

    • @samduran5180
      @samduran5180 Před 4 lety +1

      Right you gotta love the small block taking over the world, if only they could see where the small block has gone. And Fords v6s and aluminum 😂🤷🤦

  • @johncholmes643
    @johncholmes643 Před 4 lety +3

    It's good to know that when I want to haul a real load of ping pong balls.........

  • @princegroove
    @princegroove Před rokem +1

    My dad loved his 1970’s Ranger trucks, but I chose Chevy and GMC as my preferred truck brands, instead. 😆

  • @Erik-rp1hi
    @Erik-rp1hi Před 4 lety +2

    I had a 74' Ford E-100 Econoline van. I was a great van. Had it with over 200K miles and bought a 97 Econoline. Put 200K on that then in 2017 was going to buy the Trasit but got a Mercedes Sprinter for $3K less than Ford wanted. Didn't want to jump ship but did.

  • @stonetempledave8584
    @stonetempledave8584 Před 4 lety +3

    13:28 Loose bumper trim🙄. I do love the Chevys though
    13:20 missing bumper trim!

    • @honeybadger0559
      @honeybadger0559 Před 3 lety

      The bumper trim was optional, just like the bumper guards, both on the Chevy and the Ford.

  • @douglassopa2544
    @douglassopa2544 Před 4 lety +4

    both trucks did there job very well. still the better trucks today. you cant sell this me this noise. cause dat 75 ford pu in da garage still runs perfect. problem free. key here is maintanance,,,,,

  • @trevin1691
    @trevin1691 Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you guys I hope my great great grandchildren get our 77K5

  • @JohnnyRebKy
    @JohnnyRebKy Před 2 lety +1

    I think both Ford and Chevrolet made fantastic trucks back then. Couldn’t go wrong with either one. I had a 69 Chevy and a 71 Ford. The Chevy was better looking and the Ford was more robust.