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Not a great day today... one of the things Andy was most looking forward to for our London trip was going back to The O2 and filming the digital displays again like he did back in February. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to, and being told by security that he couldn't use his camera caused one of the worst meltdowns we've ever experienced, with him taking off all of his clothes in the halfway down a flight of stairs in the middle of The O2 and throwing his camera off a ledge, smashing it up beyond repair...
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The patience you have is unbelievable
Well you have to if you have a autistic son, Iâm autistic myself and I feel sympathy for these parents
You have to,makes it worse if you dont
Jackaboy Awesome I am exactly the same and autistic. I love flying and my parents are amazing because I get so excited
My son is 12 and nonverbal. All my patience goes to my sweet boy. I have zero patience for anyone else lol
Jaime Reynolds Thatâs gotta be hard, just keep going
On a happy note seeing Andy say thank you after anna gave him his Macdonalds was so sweet
Seriously though you two are doing a great job there is no one way to parent autism every person on the spectrum is different and has different needs your doing great keep going â€ïž
As someone with autism who used to struggle a lot as a child with meltdowns, I love that you understand the difference and that it's not his fault. Even at the age of 19 it still happens to me, its like the whole world has gone upside down and theres no way to stop it. I also love that you see that punishing andy isnt the right thing to do, if you were to take more away from him it would make things 100x worse because the concept of consequences can be skewed when you're still very 'out of sync' as ive always referred to it.
This is a perfect video for all those people who think children grow out of autism and things get easier...they don't...they just get different!!!!!! As a Teaching Assistant who works with ASD daily and as a mum of a child on the spectrum I salute your patience and complete understanding of his needs......Andy is a very special young man with amazing parents. You should be very proud.
you never really âgrow out of itâ as you have it for life but In some situations it can get easier with age like I have asd and when I younger, pre diagnosis and a short while after my diagnosis I used to have daily meltdowns and as I got older the meltdowns became less and now I have one every few months
@@livsephton9 There isn't a routine for meltdowns, they just happen when they happen.
Sarah's Mind didnât say thereâs a routine as there isnât I said âevery few monthsâ as an estimation as that what it seems like for me but seriously the point Iâm making is that it can get easier with age
@@livsephton9 Well okay. It just wasn't clear for me. And for ME things are getting worse, but not all because of my ASD. Have a nice day.
Mothers intuition - Anna knew something was off with Andy before ye left! Its amazing the power of a Mother. đȘ
There is a big difference between a meltdown, and be tantram, poor Andy, I hope he feels better tomorrow.
Yeah, the poor lad canât help it. Tantrums are what spoilt kids throw when they donât get their way.
But autistic kids dislike routine change and altered plans and they donât have the coping skills the rest of us have to deal with those issues.
As a parent of a son with Autism, truly my heart just feels for you. Sending you positivity and the kindest thoughts. I know these situations are heartbreaking and absolutely complicated. The recap was perfectly explained and you need to first give yourselves as parents the credit for always doing your upmost despite the difficulties. Please be kind to yourselves... tomorrow is another day. I know upon reflecting the whatâs the why and the howâs you will be thinking of everything possible to support Andy and you all to be able to enjoy outings again another day. Frankly a meltdown based on transitions, rule changing, lack of understanding why and being sensory completely overwhelmed is not always is extremely difficult to say the absolute least, nor are the even able to always be predicted, nor the outcome and how to overcome them but time, love and care to the best as a parent we can. You all did absolutely the best under the circumstances... so please keep your heads high and just know there are many of us who get it and think you are both wonderful parents. đ
People, just don't understand Autism, can't see the difference between uesing a fone are a cemra.
That is because a phones now have inbuilt cameras, so they are technically cameras.
Andrew Morton spelling
To be fair itâs ridiculous and pedantic ruling. A camera phone is ok... but a camera not. Itâs merely the cannot possibly police phone recording so easily. If whatever device can record... then simply device can record. If that is what the want to stop us the recording itâs actually literally impossible. I personally think these rules may be their for some sense, but seriously not allowing a kid to film digital display boards is just completely nonsensical. No Thanks to security guard number one, for
misinformed advice! Do the security guards just individually make up these rules and follow them as they at their will? Surely not if they are indeed actually implementing and adhering to the NO filming in the O2 protocol. Itâs sad that they could not realise the challenges Andy overcomes every, give him strict rules and let the kid film even with their distanced supervision. Guessing thatâs way too novel of an idea and caring.
An inexpensive camera phone maybe a way forward for situations such as these. Of course then you have associated costs and thatâs so far from ideal. Given costs associated with living with a disability already exist.
May it be fun and long live Andy Go Pro.
@@truenorth6999 i dont think anyone is gonna read that its like the bible
@@truenorth6999 it says in the video Andy was offered the option of filming on his phone but he refused.
Dear Andy, I'm sorry the rules kept changing on you when you went to the 02. There's been a lot of changes recently, hasn't there? There's been so many that it's making most people upset I think. I'm sorry you don't understand what's going on fully. I'm sorry that's scary. I hope you know that your mum and dad love you and have good reasons for making you live with so many changes. I hope you find ways soon to be less scared by all the things that are going on. X
From Andyâs perspective he was looking forward doing something and it was taken away for no reason. Very grim. The world is cruel.
I cannot believe how you and Anna deal with these things in such a calm, controlled, considerate manner towards Andy. You are fantastic examples to all parents and autistic parents in particular.
sorry to you both but especially anna some of the best parents ive seen
You guys are awesome parents, I feel so sorry that Andy had to deal with this sudden change and that the o2 security had no budge on it, and left you to deal with the fall out. Big love xx
Hugs to you all. Meltdowns can take a lot out of everyone, especially big ones like that. Hope you all have a good end to your trip!
I just want to give Anna a hug. You can only fully understand how she is feeling there if you have been through it yourself. I sincerely hope the rest of your trip goes as planned.
You are amazing people. I canât imagine the stress and frustration you handle everyday. I know how hard it was dealing with a toddler in a full on meltdown I canât imagine a full grown teen
I donât blame Andy for being upset.
I love how when Andy is talkative, exited or happy, you guys call it Animated. I love it!!!
A big hug from me to you and Anna, you two are great parents.your kids are very lucky to have such loving and caring parents.
you are an amazing father. the way you talk to andy and get excited for him is great
Anyone saying you are rewarding "bad behavior' has never seen a true meltdown, much less tried to parent through one.
Sending you a hug from America which is all I can offer ... ;-(
i got COVID-19 & self isolating at the moment.. these vlogs are the only thing keeping me sane thanks Kev!
Two great parents and one great child you are the best love your vlogs you show the good and the bad that gives people better understanding keep it up kev đđ
I totally understand how you feel. My son has had a few meltdowns recently due to the changes that have happened and he doesnt understand it. But luckily for us he is only 5 at the moment. Im dreading when he gets bigger. And its deffo not a bad thing that you gave him a camera replacement. Its what he needs to cope then by all means give him what he needs to cope. It was deffo a meltdown and not a tantrum (bad behaviour) because he broke/hurt something that meant a lot to him. So he wasnt trying to gain anything from it as it was his things that broke. (This part wasnt for you kev. Was for others in case they didnt understand lol). As autism parents i think we all understand and appreciate what you are saying. Btw. Love the vids. They are helping us through our journey loads x
you may find you cope fine as your son gets bigger. Both my sons are on the spectrum. My youngest lashed out terribly at this sort of age, but now he's 12 he is more likely to go into a shut down than a melt down when things get too much for him.
They are such understanding parents, I would appreciate it if mine understood a bit more but I still love them lots
Totally with you on not wanting to punish him for a meltdown but also wanting him to learn not to do it again whilst also wondering if he can learn from it, constant dilemma for me too I admire you're patience and compassion as a family đâ€ïž
You both are amazing and inspirational and I hope Andy is feeling better and itâs true itâs not his fault xxx
Bless ya ! Crazy times at the mo and people don't understand. Even worse for those like Andy who don't understand why we are in the situation. Hope the rest of the weeks is better for you all
sending big hugs and love to you all!
Give lots of love from us to Anna - must be so hard for her to see Andy like that and so hard for her to manage - and I'm sure she at times gets sick of having a camera about on top of these bits (only human) but you Anna and Andy are giving so much awareness as a family and your videos are really contributing to Autism awareness!Xx
I hope Andy is feeling better and hugs to Anna, she looked close to tears . You two are so patient with Andy.
Well done Kevin. I understand it can be hard with problems like this, but keep staying strong because Andy is a exceptional young man.
Oh poor Andy đ I canât even think of how you an Anna must feel when this is all happening much love to both of you â€ïž Hopefully the O2 will see this and train their staff x
You did well dealing with the Situation Kev. Remember to tell Anna she is doing a great job as well. Much love from the Midlands â€ïž
Kevin you and Anna are heroâs not one of us knows what itâs like to deal with Andys meltdowns so none of us can have a say in what to do or what âyou should doâ you are both doing amazing just know that
Iâm glad Andy calmed down by the end of the day. Wen you where talking to Anna at the end I just wanted to hug you both. You are both great parents. Problem is a lot of people donât understand what autism is. As always sending you loads of AUsome love from me. đđȘđ»đ§©đ
The security at O2 should be ashamed for leaving you to deal with the meltdown after causing it in the first place.......I would have gave him my camera too aswell. My boy will throw things in a meltdown and then be even more upset when he realises it's broken. You guys are doing great.
Hi Kevin & Anna. Just wanted to let you both know that I think you coped so well with the O2 situation and I would have done exactly the same thing to calm Andy down! I hope you are all ok now. It's lovely how you support each other. I'm pretty new to your channel but it is clear that Andy is very loved and well cared for. His behaviour most of the time is really good in my opinion and a real credit to you both. I also have a son with autism & LD (10yrs old) and it is a fine line we walk when trying not to give in to their every demand! We had a bad day today so your video made me feel less alone. For any new autism parents, don't panic, my son's bad days are less often, the older he gets! I hope you managed to enjoy the rest of your holiday. Thanks for letting us all watch and learn from your journey! Ps my son now also enjoys watching your adventures with Andy. Xx
I also agree with other people that I hope the O2 review their autism policy so that no one else has to go through something like this.
It's great to see so many lovely comments, I just wanted to add to them to say that you are both brilliant parents, Kev and Anna - this situation must have been so so difficult. I'm hoping the trip will end better than it started. I've been subbed for about 2 years now and the progress Andy has made overall has been amazing to see
Been a while since I have watched one of your vlogs, HCA, so been a tad busy, plus it's been back to school week here in NI. Big hug to all the chapman family, but specifically for Anna, girl you got this, you're a super hero!
You guys are awesome parents! â€ïž
It isn't rewarding bad behaviour when you have to replace one thing with another to avoid a meltdown tenfold .believe me I have been in your shoes many times and unless you have lived it yourself you have no idea .Hope Andy as better days for the rest of your trip
Your patience is insane. Props to you.
You are both amazing parentsâ€ïž
Hope your holiday has improved and you all had a great time
I hope the trip still goes well â€ïž
I hope the O2 see this, realise how ridiculous they have been and get in touch with an apology.
incredible incredible parents, legends
We have had same experience like you guys.. Hats off to both of your patience
Hi I think you did a great job, I really hope that Andy now feels happier, have a great day đđ
If I was part of the staff in the 02, I would rather him film than have a meltdown. Andy is harmlessly filming as thatâs his way of copeing
Hope Andy is ok â€ïž
HOW? DO? YOU? DO? IT? Exhausted just hearing about your day đ„”
I hope Andy have a great day
You guys are doing an awesome job. đ
oh no a massive hug to you all, lets hope lego land is a better day :) you are amazing parents !!
I still have meltdowns; it does not stop. I have learnt coping methods but I could never live in a big place like London. Stay safe
Hopefully the rest of your holiday is good!
So sorry nobody understand what go through keep safe all you hug and kiss xx
Hope the rest of your holiday goes well Kev
My god I would be so mad at the o2 tell them to change there policy
I agree. It especially bothers me that they said filming only wasn't allowed during entry and then changed that to say no filming inside either. That would upset anyone, being lied to like that.
I feel for u both, i have 3 and half year old little girl who was diagnosed 6 months ago, she is non verbal and has limited understanding, we r only seem to be having meltdowns when tired which she is then inconsolable, so different type of meltdown at moment , i hope i have the same level as patience as u guys in future if the type of meltdown changes đ
Sorry to hear about this. Don't they have better things to worry about in these times than a kid filming inside the building with a camera? Hope you are all OK and have a better rest of holiday.
Omg kev I felt so sorry for anna watching this she looked so sad xx
Love u guys hope this vlog goes viral and wish people who work in shops attractions see implications of stupid rules bee autism support for over 15 years and feel the pain xx
You can do it Anna your so so strong x
So sorry for all of you seeing Andy in a full blown melt down. And then hit out at all of you. The security guards should of been more understanding. But he still loves you both deep down inside. If you like to chat and just talk im here for you all. My love to you all keep your chin up. Give my love to Andy and his mum.
Ah this is so gutting to hear. Poor Andy. You don't have to justify your reasons for giving him the GoPro! There was no 'bad behaviour' involved and those who have watched your videos long enough will know that! I've seen on insta that you did manage to make the most out of the rest of the week so i'm looking forward to those vlogs. I hope there was no more struggle for Andy. You guys are great parents and your patience and calm in these situations is exceptional and inspiring â€ïž
Andy is such a good boy. You are right Kevin, he should not be punished for something he cannot control. I am sure over the years you and Anna and whoever else have tried helping Andy learn new coping skills. All you can do is show Andy that support while he is melting down. Maybe as his communication skills continue to improve, he will express his frustration differently.
Love your vids
Gosh you guys have an astounding amount of patience! I however, do not đ
We took my twins to Poole a couple weeks ago, was a similar nightmare for 5 days , both boys have ASD and all the change just created meltdowns and stress , I know how you all feel đ
You and Anna both deserve a raise
It's so frustrating when things get changed last minute and there isn't any thought to whom this may impact.
I understand your predicament with the "rewarding negative behaviour" but like you said it was a meltdown.
You didn't just give him a new camera, you sympathised with him and understood why he was in crisis but you highlighted the behaviour displayed and told him the consequence if he he displayed similar behaviour again 'he would have no camera'
if you knew about the camera situation and had prepared him and he still displayed behaviour, how you would have dealt with it would be different but this was an unexpected change.
Fingers crossed you week improves x
Disgusted with the O2. Incredible that these pencil pushing idiots can see and intervene about him filming a digital display but canât intervene and help when heâs in full meltdown and you guys are clearly and understandably struggling!! I want to complain for you!! Iâm so angry for you.
My heart broke for Anna when she walked in after you detailed what happened. She looked so broken. Canât imagine how it feels for her. Really hope things improve đ
I dont think its pencil pushing idiots that are entirely to blame. I think the majority of the blame has to lie with these security guards in places like O2. Give some of them a uniform then they think they're invincible. I'm also disabled though mine is physical and I've had that kind of treatment from security guards in supermarkets and similar establishments all my life. I've even had it by the police. There needs to be much better disability awareness training given to people like this.
Pencil pushers and those on a power trip in their polyester uniform. Iâm sorry you have to deal with this disgraceful treatment and disrespect too. It doesnât take much to be a little understanding to those that have any sort of issue, does it.
I agree there should be training - but surely basic human decency should indicate that some people need a bit more help and/or understanding
Well to be fair what are they gonna help with when heâs having a meltdown? itâs not their kid they arenât just gonna go and spank him
Great video hope you all are ok
I'm so sorry to hear this happened, I'm glad Andy calmed down in the evening.
You and Anna shouldn't have to explain yourselves or how you calm Andy down, you do an amazing job and I have the biggest respect for you both.
I hope the rest of your trip was good fun!
Bless him
My brother had autism and we all attended a safe handling training and it helped a lot my brother had the same type of meltdown in a store! I think you should try it to Kevin! :) I believe in you I think you can do it and it will help you lots! Best of luck Harry! X
I think you did all the right things. In the moment of meltdown he can't help his actions
aww its so hard isnt it, anna looked so sad bless her. my 7 year old had a meltdown yesterday witch resulted in his tv being smashed so we had to go out today to get a replacement. some of my friends was telling my i should not do that but they dont understand its not his fault. hope you all have a lovely time in legoland :)
It so hard to hear about this he doesn't understand why he has too and it just frustrated him its so hard for him love you Kevin andy Anna Lucy amy and Owen xxxx
I hope Andy gets better đđđđ
Anna looks absolutely distraught
It might be worth getting an aluminium heavy duty case for the gopro if you're worried about it being broken again, they really do become quite indestructible that way but they also turn into a lethal projectile. Good job dealing with the situation though and let's hope it doesn't happen again too often.
OH No poor Andy
Awwwwww poor Andy!!! đ„đ„đ„
I would totally send the portion of this video where you talk about what happened in the 02 TO the 02 management ASAP, along with any footage you have of Andy's meltdown and footage of Anna so unhappy and knackered several hours later if you and she can feel comfortable with that, to hopefully help them understand autism and develop their training accordingly. There should not be such a massive incongruence around the rules in such a big and popular venue, and I honestly find it very suspicious that security caught up to Andy filming so quickly, but took half an hour to notice his massive meltdown.
I'm sorry to hear about what happened, looking at the pictures on Instagram you did go to legoland and If any of the O2 security guards are watching this they should be ashamed of themselves for causing you son Andy with learning difficulties have a meltdown.
P.S I have cearable palsy and behavioural problems I know how Andy feels.
Sending love from Norfolk.
Well itâs not like they knew he was autistic. They were just trying to enforce the rules.
Iâm so sorry that Andyâs trip has not gone according to plan. I hope that you can still enjoy yourselves.
The O2 has cancelled the use of cameras due to it being an event area which is annoying. I know because my partner had his camera confiscated while filming a day out for his birthday. However that was in the event area itself but I suppose with live events being cancelled, they have to extend the strictness due to privacy. I hope you do enjoy Legoland and enjoy London.
I work in an sen school (in London) look up team teach training its fantastic and will help you feel confident in handling not to hurt!
Hope andy is ok and anna ok to xxx
What does he mean go to prison if 2 people bath/shower at the same time? lol
I'm stressed even watching this, hope the rest of your trip goes well âč
I have a several nonverbal autistic 24 year old he went threw meltdowns as well he is a lot better now that he is older he lives in a group home he just loves it
Omg poor Andy, something obviously sparked it... some people just donât get Autismđ
One city of recommendation for you guys especially andy is Amsterdam because it is confirmed that they are building a euro star to it and cheap flights also not to far for Andy and lots of trains, trams, canals and boat rides and every time you go to Lego land he loves the Holland windmills that they have just outside of Amsterdam.
You are brilliant parents
How the hell do you both do it? You both deserve.... something, a gold medal wouldn't be enough. I don't know how I'd cope. So my hat comes off you both.
I canât believe they allow you to film on a phone which you could be live streaming to the whole world but you canât film on a little camera. Makes no sense to me poor Andy it was one knock too many after so many changes he has over come. You are both fantastic parents and such a great loving family. You can get through anything as a team.