Elon Musk's Genius NEW Solution to Solve Starship's Weak Problem During Launch
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Elon Musk's Genius NEW Solution to Solve Starship's Weak Problem During Launch
During the development of a powerful spacecraft, it is inevitable to encounter some errors, whether few or many. We cannot assert with 100% certainty that a rocket will be perfect from its first launch. Starship is a prime example; despite its size and status as the most powerful rocket in the world, it has experienced issues during both testing and launch phases.
This is not by chance. All of Starship's tests, even the ones that ended in explosions, achieved their intended objectives. SpaceX has adopted a different approach to rocket development known as “rapid iteration.” This involves building prototypes, testing them until they fail, addressing any issues that arise, and then building a new prototype to repeat the process.
Elon Musk's Genius NEW Solution to Solve Starship's Weak Problem During Launch
The progress is evident, but it is still not complete. SpaceX must continue testing to fully realize the potential that Starship is being celebrated for. After the fourth Starship test flight, SpaceX and Elon Musk identified additional issues that need solutions to ensure the flights can meet their ambitious goals in the near future.
Elon Musk's Genius NEW Solution to Solve Starship's Weak Problem During Launch
After all, SpaceX and Elon Musk have come up with a solution for this. The development of Starship's heat shield demonstrates SpaceX's commitment to continuous improvement. Initially, this system included about 18,000 heat shield tiles made from aluminum and silica fibers, with various shapes, especially around the nose cone. These tiles were attached to the spacecraft's body using pins, with a layer of white insulating material underneath to disperse heat before it reached the metal part of the spacecraft.
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If starship was just a disposable rocket, it would already be superior to all others😂
Yeah yeah
@@alphatech4966 you don't think so?
Absolutely
@@chetannagdeve7522 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Really? Then why isn't it human rated? How can it be "superior to all others". When it hasn't even conducted a full orbit yet? Maybe think a bit about what you type, before gushing like an Elon Fanboy.
I agree with gabbyglide. Separated launch and landing towers is really a good safety idea when launches become more frequent, in fact its more than just safety ...... its a necessity I would, say !
I agree with this point of view
Everytime they make the diameter larger, don't they have to change the production of all the glass tiles? Increasing not only the weight of fuel and cargo, but structure/shielding as well?
The filter blockages has nothing to do with the products of combustion entering the tanks and freezing. The solid blockages involve the solidification of the super cooled oxygen and methane in the changed environment in the tanks now operating under lower pressure making it easier for the solids to form. I suspect in accordance with the Bernoulli equation which describes the energy of a moving fluid, the entry of the fluid propellants from the tank to the higher velocities in the pipework into the turbo pumps results in further reduction of the fluid temperatures (since the fluid pressure itself doesn't change).
@@michaelreid2329 Exactly. And its worth noting that SpaceX's ise of sub-cooled propellants has brought grief previously.
Great presentation and summary
Thank you so much!
AI narrator is so annoying.. seriously.
Actually, our narrator tried very hard not to be said to be AI
Space X is the leader in Airspace and will get it right for renewal before human journeys to the 🌟
@@stayxsiejohnson3572 totally agree, utter nonsense, LEO is equivalent to leaving your house and putting a foot on the door step. Reaching the moon is like reaching your front gate. Mars maybe you reached the pavement of the street. There is no equivalent using this analogy for "human journeys to the 🌟"
How about a landing tower without the plumbing of a launch tower? A bad landing wouldn't imperil future launches.
I foresee a future Starship version upscaled to a kilometer tall and diameter scaled up a likewise ratio and become the Mars mission backbone craft.
That needlessly big, and wasteful. Plus Starship you have to refuel, and how many launches are you planning on doing to refuel it there? V1 already needs 10 launches (at minimum) to go to the moon, nevermind beyond using its Merlin engines. Which are also not the most effective engines for interplanetary travel.
@@ViperPilot16 The larger the better the fuel-payload ratio becomes and that is true with sea ships as well with the only major limitation on growing bigger has been ports and canals able to handle the biggest ships. In the 70's-80's 3 off shore unloading points were set up for oil because no US port at the time could handle the bigger oil tankers. One off CA, TX and NYC each, now only TX is still in use. The each step bigger is more efficient not less. The limit on size for NASA in the past was based on the old width of two mules rear end formula for rail and highway widths. The Shuttle had to be flown but all the boosters, tanks and prior rockets were limited by highway and rail size limits between mainly FL and TX. SpaceX by building and servicing on site in both FL and TX that limit no longer applies.
The heat protection at the top should be made from 1 piece not 50 piece glue together
If one piece works better, that's what they would do. But the individual pieces are literally in different temperature zones. And this works better.
It would be fascinating to dig into the archives of NASA & compare the early failures & findings of the investigations & compare those to what we're experiencing with Falcon & Starship.
What like these czcams.com/video/K48AasRJpag/video.html
Do you feel that there is a similarity?
@@alphatech4966 I've seen some of the archived footage of the old explosions. It would seem a synapsis of causation & some of the investigation reports would be available as well. (Like with the shuttle disaster). I just think the comparison / contrast of how NASA dealt with early disasters toward the development of manned spaceflight & satellite launches verses todays issues such as with Falcon & Starship is merited. I think it will show progress in their investigation techniques, findings & the mitigation / corrective action reporting procedures. They've treated SpaceX & the other rocket developers accidents recently pretty fairly on balance.
Solve Starships weak problem.
Why is your headline mangled English, when the rest of the content is coherent ?
I love the beginning! "...it is inevitable to encounter some errors...", as the screen erupts in fire-and-brimstone!!
Haha! That was amazing!
Why is bot narrator speaking at half speed?
There's no question, the new fins and heat shield tiles are orders of magnitude improved over all that have preceded.
I think that moré realistically we will have space stations dedicated to receive interplanetary passengers. There they would be picked up by Starship once ready to sail for the desired destination, on which the passengers would disembark onto another space station, from which they would then descend onto the surface of the destination. Mitigating risks. Making the Mars mission a round trip possibility and not just a one way trip as currently envisioned.
Excellent stuff bro, go Elon
wonderfull!
Prototype testing is effective after many engineering analyses and sub-system tests. Prototype testing is expensive and time-consuming, generally reserved for problems that can not be found and corrected at lower levels of integration.
3:10 So if they don't have a good solution, they will go with an OK solution to push flights and other technology while they work on a permanent heat shield solution for rapid reuse of the vehicle.
The ablative material should not need constant replacement and lost tiles can be replaced as needed ! Not all ships will need heat tiles either ! Just ones returning back to earth or landing on the moon !
Ablative literally means "Wears Away" it obviously will need replacing as it wears away >
Why do they need tiles to land on the moon
Only when a heat shield tiles fails, does the ablative mat underneath need to be replaced. This probably requires several local heat tiles to be removed around the damaged one, the ablative material inspected and replaced.
We need a heat shield to land on the moon? 🧐
@bazwilliams6484 except that it is UNDER wear redistant tiles.
Elon has a great skill at enabling talent.
wonderfull!
Starship is a prototype ship in progress. Each failure is a learning curve for future attempts. When ready, we will see the finished product.
Don't hold your breath.
@@Ai-he1dp no need.
@@alanmcmillan6969 out of curiosity when do you expect starship to land on mars?...and after it has proved it can land and come back safely, how long after that do you expect for a manned mission? and safely back....thank you.
They can strap two or four falcon 9 to starship. It still will be reusable. Just like falcon heavy. Maybe four falcons on larger tanker versions
Proof of concept=
Why tiles? I'm sure there IS a reason this method is best, but why not coat the rocket in a layer of heat shield material?
Because it's not that easy or simple. That's why real engineers have to work on it.
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom I figured that part out. What is the science as to why tiles? Do you know?
Because the tiles aren't just coated with heat resistant paint, they're made directly from heat resistant material. Heat expansion is something to keep in mind too, the tiles have a little bit of wiggle room to expand and contract from the heat, plus many, smaller tiles = a few tiles being damaged or coming off isn't the end of the world. They're also cheap to mass produce.
@@jerryandrews7028 Look. I'm not an idiot so don't be insulting. I'm 66 and have followed the space program since Gemini. I know 'it's not heat resistant paint'. That's ridiculous given the extremes of reentry. My question is instead of individual small tiles, construct larger tiles to apply to Starship? A few form-fitted pieces that cover vastly larger areas each, rather than thousands? As I said, I'm sure there are reasons this method of application isn't feasible or Musk would be doing it. I'm curious what that reason is? I've wondered why since the Shuttle started using tiles. You remember the shuttle, right?
@@jcdisci it has to do with the thermic effects of reentry which can cause the tiles to mildly expand, also because losing one smaller tile during reentry wouldn’t be as massive of an issue. i also imagine the tiles being generally smaller means you’re able to put more of the same type of tile in more places which also drives down cost (plus, cheaper to manufacture) which was a problem with the shuttle since the tiles they used were usually unique depending on where the tile was placed. which is obviously way more expensive
Good video
The heat shield needs cooler with nitrogen as it freezes reentry it would just turn into water
Coking is when materials get converted into pure carbon….. carbo nano thread ad a way to double stitch the ablative sock oversized and double sewn with the carburetor n nano thread would expedite the turn around time…thermally resistant 😅glue with 2 layers of the nano threading a glue in between the stitches and on top of the patch a before launch wound give the time for the glue on the ablative material and the tiles reentry, plus a a fission reactor to power the flight to graduate gravity in transit there to allow freedom of movement for all electrical needs plus freedom of movement to facilitate artificial gravity while chevron can be slowed down to slowly adjust the gravity of there so people don’t b come too weak, plus Newtonian las states that only one rocket engine, plus a myriad of hypergolics would be enough for one r Chet to get us there, plus a myriad of hypergolics to adjust trajectory
Would be enough. Land both sections two boosters at a time with one being the top with that as the bearing and another as a mound of regalith as a a tunnel as as the transition between thbearinf system and the artificial gravity. Hey he removal of the nuclear waste e is the secret sauce!!!! I’m not going to give away all of my secrets . Because I want to be a part of the gateway to mars!!!
Wasn't Elon who fixed it was the SpaceX team .....Elon only the Boss
But he is a talented leader
Starship is only rocket to existence ice issues. autonomous pressurizations on the rs-25 engine is accompanied by converting the liquid hydrogen and oxygen to gas by heating. The hydrogen is heated by using it to cool the nozzle while the oxygen is passed through a heat exchanger in the turbine exhaust. for want of a heat exchanger they are adding ice strainers. wtf
I wonder how many more test flights, before tiles morph into coatings?
I could see a nice refractory aircrete mix being better and faster, and perhaps using boro silicate beads in the outer surface to create a protective reflective final layer.
would be pretty easy to spray on and trowel up using multi jets and a sleeve.
On the fins and flappers, those are like aquatic Dinosaur control and lift surfaces... You'd be better off with high mounted wing stability, some V to the wing horizontal angle, and more traditional aft located control surfaces that the leading edge could be cupped into the trailing
edge of wings to shade hinge from the friction heat.
And those forward flaps could be fins, on a pivot at 90° to the hull, way easier to seal and protect a round shaft. And then you would get way more control range than the off/on range of the forward flappers.
Also if you double delta the wings, and have a keel with airship rudder below, you could also get trinary hull stiffness with out needing all those krappy internal longitudinals... stiffen outside the hull, get more uses for the metal mass, like wiring and plumbing in wing root structures.
Another way to get stiffness would be going longitudinal gores, and pressing them into slight lobe shapes between the longitudinal welds. literally using two dimensional curves in the skin to reduce internal structural clutter, and ill advised increased mass.
Its fun critiquing Starship developement, as the Rocket Enginerds are so dogmatic as to be short bus. 🤭
I think its from a lack of viable competition, and that when others are closer behind or even pulling ahead,
They will uncork their heads, out of loss of smugness...
I can see it coming now, like with Stoke Space and multiple combustion chambers to pump ratios...
I've been hounding on that one for years, literally was with the original parts count writ. And somebody else groked it first.
SpaceX does iterate and progress, but they seem to be more rut bound than forward thinking... Lacking a keen sense of the obvious at times.
Unimaginative engineering, likely too much time in education learning numbers crunching, and not enough childhood use of imagination. Did their teething on plastic toys, never got to make things from scraps and junk...
Elon knows, probably just the women in HR insisting on degrees...
He needs to expand Ad Astra and produce those practical synergystic generalist types... Heinlien would approve.
Perhaps like the skin on a snake. The whole area that needs to be shielded could be all one prefabbed skin. After a spaceship lands, the skin is quickly removed, and the chopsticks swing the ship around directly into a new skin. Perhaps most of the detaching mechanisms could be installed on the cool side of the ship so that they don't wear from burning temps. For now, that is all I can see for quick reusability.
I still see tiles as the primary shield for some time but I could see a coating made of an unfinished material that uses reentry heat for the final cure. Like making fire protective bricks in a kiln on the first firing. Useful to for seams or replacement in space if needed.
@@k.sullivan6303
Thats a pretty cool idea, the quick detach heat shield, to be refurbished, as able, after immediate replacement.
Way better idea than 18K small tiles... Just one or more large sections that key in sliding aft so air friction and launch thrust seats into pocket mounts.
Could be like bayonet lugs where sections set on and slide aft and latch in.
I like your concept alot!
@@charlesmaurer6214
Yeah, I've proposed similar re entry kilning before too... seems obvious to me. thats quite the kiln at 20k km/ph
Those tiles arent going to make it, thats a concept scabbed on from NASA that already has a body count...
Spray on is not a good idea, as it could peel off in large chunks too.
Why is Joe Biden narrating this
Uh, I forgot...not a joke
Did youlicense Kurt Russel's AI Voice for these videos?
If we made a factory on the moon we could build much larger rockets and launch cheaper. We need to turn a cave into a moon base and start mining any valuables on the moon.
It will be significantly more expensive vs on earth for many decades
Don't tell china ELON. Let them try to figure it out
China will not be able to do the same
Your content sounds narrated with hypotheticals written by chat gtp with nothing new and stock graphics
I won't make excuses because I know it's impossible to change your negative thoughts! but you have to review because you're the only one saying this.
So explain where there is some genius in all this? Don't adequately design the re-entry system, waste billions on the launch(es), see what happens, then revert to some mish-mash of established ideas such as ablative and heat insulation/rejection pads. Then claim that this is temporary until we find something: this means they don't know what to do for a complete solution. Then, if you are doing as a presentation such as this, waste another 12 minutes on unrelated subjects.
This is a glorified rehash of existing tech ideas and the expansion of tanks - more SpaceX propaganda.
You try it. The people who think like you do have zero experience. It's all theory and armchair quarterbacking. Useless. It's like talking to a brick wall when someone doesn't know enough to know how difficult something really is. Regarding this subject, my friend, you are a brick wall.
@@forgeteverythingyouknow5413 I can always rely on some stan like you to respond like this. I am an aerospace engineer with 40 years experience. Try getting an education and some lessons in manners Mr Stan.
@@domenicobarillari2046 Well, you come across as a bitter egotist. You're so smart... but Spacex and everyone else is just ever so stupid.
I don't see you having built a successful Aerospace Engineering company.
You don't get to complain how stupid they are until you do better than what they do.
Then you can go tell Elon Musk how stupid he is.
Titles were not working good with shuttles… Should be modified to cover bigger rocket surfaces.
That just proves you understand less than you pretend you do.
They didn't work well with the space shuttles because the tiles themselves were made to fit a very particularly shaped body, and generally the shapes and sizes of each tile were highly inconsistent, unlike starship's which largely uses the same type of tiles everywhere. Also need to consider the thermic effects of reentry, the tiles need more wiggle room to expand and contract from the heat.
Why not lauch from a tight tube and put the rocket inside an use the extreme pressure created from the truster for extra power instead of wasting the massive energy created when launched normally
I would not stay in your tube : imagine the G force you would get inside !
@@ericbohn2510 not for humans there a compagny called green launch that use hydrogen with a cannon nice stuff
@@hangtime1111 Because real engineers know it's not as simple as you think it is.
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom yeah but you have to launch random idea so we can evolve because we're stuck in the same pattern of rocket for the last 50 years, inefficient and fragile
It's to bad SpaceX hasn't figured out a way to make a spray on heat shield I'm thinking it could be sprayed on in a epoxy powdered glass and Titanium dust. I don't know how many coats of the product I don't even know if it would work. So the thing I can say put it on a rocket that is going to be phase out. That way your not out a lot of money. This is just an idea only.
The shield tile pointed corners are one of the needed features.
They did not reach orbit. They have all been suborbital.
Per flight parameters. The 2nd stage/Starliner did reach the Karman line.
SpaceX's prototype testing method has resulted in failure to meet schedule deadlines time and time again. Or did I miss Musk landing 2 Starhips on Mars in 2022 or 4 in 2024?
Your voice changes a lot. Is there any reason for that?
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Nice content.. Dump the CGI. Its discussing and overrides the content value. I mean come on people
Other star systems seems like a fairy tale. At the very least that seems like centuries from now if ever.
Unless your name is Wernher von Braun and the rocket you are building is the SaturnV that send men to the moon without refueling... then your rocket works every time without multiple test flights that showed you missed something during the design phase.
they're not entirely comparable launch vehicles, the saturn v never required refueling because it's designed as a solely expendable vehicle, reusability was never considered (which is why it was also so expensive, 1.62 billion dollars per launch in todays monday, while starship is aiming for about 15 million per launch if i'm not mistaken). also, nasa and spacex have entirely different methods when it comes to testing, the saturn vehicles were tested extensively (also, nasa outright lost astronauts during the apollo programs testing, from apollo 1) spacex tends to be much more riskier and doesn't mind having something blow up or go wrong because they collect incredibly valuable data which helps them progress.
Other very rich should be pitching in, we need to expand off earth.
Asap
Bye
No man shall land on mars and safely back in elons lifetime....and he knows it.
Hmm!
I love it, you haters can't prop up ANYTHING you believe without resorting to just making things up lying. Nice fail!
@@TheEvilmooseofdoom no hating here, just fact searching, it's also what you should be doing, when you mentioned star ship to other star systems, do you even know what another star system is, off course you do, just juicing up a bit are we, off course you are your man musk does it all the time...time will tell!..people relate his successes with his dreams, the two are far apart....let's get to the moon first...send me a comment when you get bored waiting for the mars thing....remember research!
There isn’t really any point of going to Mars, other than curiosity. People talk about how we will have to colonize mars because of the climate on Earth, those people haven’t thought it through. Mars has less gravity, a thinner atmosphere, and no magnetic field. There is really nothing that could happen on Earth that would make living in Earth more difficult than Mars.
@@ScottBFree well Scott free perhaps this rumour might set you a little more free?...the musk mars mission of colonisation is a smoke screen for a treasure hunt, like ship treasure hunting, lost civilisation hunting, apparently something to do with human ancestry, yes all the times are wrong and nothing seems to fit, they say if the earth lost it's magnetic field as much as mars over a long period of course it would look something like mars, it was once also a water world... probably this rumour is based on the film, The Man Who fell from Mars?, or something like that, staring David Bowie.
In the last flight, the booster landing was not totally successful as the booster exploded when just 'landing' on the ocean surface.
This is nothing to worry about!
@@alphatech4966 It does not worry if the rocket explodes? That's optimized ignorance!
Hey kids, we might learn from an ancient civilization's solution for transportation of it''s heavy building materials. The Egyptians transported heavy loads with barges in waterways. Just a crazy thought.
what do you think cargo ships are?
@@markburton5292 The narrator commented on the future larger Starships being difficult to move due size. my far-out idea was a canal and a barges.
@@pplusbthrust while making it seem like modern civilization doesn't know this and doesn't do this. hence the comment.
also, you can't just build canals anywhere you want. especially in protected wetlands.
ew get a real announcer
I know, not hard people.
Yes, it's me
Please end with this "demonstrating commitment", you're not a PR scumbag from a supercorporation. Honest people don't use this sort of language.
Never getting to the moon. Never getting to mars. You can’t break through the belt.
@@stayxsiejohnson3572 He's talking about the van Allen belt around the earth. The Apollo missions minimised hazards for astronauts by sending spacecraft at high speeds through the thinner areas of the upper belts, bypassing inner belts completely, except for the Apollo 14 mission where the spacecraft traveled through the heart of the trapped radiation belts.
@@forgeteverythingyouknow5413 did they? I mean they say they did but that doesn't mean they did. There's the film where they were allegedly half way to the moon but when the transparency came off the porthole it shows them in low earth orbit. And then there's the parallax analysis of Apollo mission moon photographs by the Ukrainian scientist that shows that moon mountains allegedly 30km+ in the distance are no further than 30-300 meters away. And then there's Googles deep fake analysis AI that flagged every Apollo image fed to it as being fake. Then there's numerous photography experts who can't explain why or how supplemental lighting sources appeared to be used on the moon or that there discrepancies in the angles of shadows which can only be caused by light sources much much much closer than would be the light of the sun.
@@stayxsiejohnson3572
I don't mean to insult you but you don't need to be a mind reader to understand English and consider the context might be more complicated than your originally reacted to.
Before calling someone a moron you can think gee, maybe they're Not stupid...
You get to call people names and assume the worst if you want. I'm just gonna tell you from experience it often ends up really sucking to live in that constantly.
And it gets old with people seeing you as a hothead that can't be nice to people Who may or may not have made a mistake.
Any you believe there are little green men on the moon too I'll bet.
A future starship much larger and advanced will travel to other STAR SYSTEMS?....there are times when you have to wonder if the man is delusional?...its cery doubtful that starship willvever make it to mars!..
It will need to be several iterations and redesigns later on…
@@peterclarke3020 it will also need it's owner to stop lying.
@@peterclarke3020 Can iterate all you want, but in the end physics remains the same. To go to Mars, you will need a nuclear rocket
@@Ai-he1dp He's just dreaming big, you're the one actually being dishonest.
@@nickl5658 No, that's just the thinking of pretend experts and that's because all you fools CAN do is pretend.
Elon's genius? He told SpaceX's talented engineers and tech to fix the problem. Wow, what a genius.
yeah lol? elon is usually not that involved and giving him all the credit is silly
The booster- ‘the landing still went smoothly’ really? Have we seen the full video yet to prove it didn’t actually explode? The flames licking along the side certainly show it wasn’t by any means a ‘smooth’ unproblematical landing. Look it was a good flight the landing whatever the problems promising and yes to be celebrated, but this endless hyperbole, the exageration and pr focused hype of this channel really is sick making at times. I really must ignore the clickbait in the forlorn hope something actually productive and informative will be learned. Unsubscribing I’m afraid.
It did not explode until after it tipped over. Before that, it hovered successfully.