I REPLACED My Laptop With A Virtual Reality Headset (Meta Quest Pro)

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  • čas přidán 9. 11. 2022
  • Can VR headsets actually replace computer monitors? I tried one for a few days to find out. There were some huge benefits, but also massive downsides and a lot of pain.
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    ADDITIONAL REVIEW NOTES:
    For the past few days, I replaced my laptop with a VR head set. You see, the new VR goggles from Meta, the Meta Quest Pro now have color cameras on it, so you can actually see your surroundings and get an augmented reality experience. Marques Brownlee pointed out that you could connect a desktop or laptop wirelessly and instead of having one small laptop display, you could have three massive displays surrounding your head. So how practical is this? Could you use it at work everyday, or in a small apartment, or perhaps while traveling on a plane or in a coffee shop? Well I wanted to find out, so I ordered a Meta Quest Pro and used it instead of my usual laptop display
    Let’s start out with some concerns I had before starting
    1) The battery life:
    You don’t actually need to worry about the battery because you can charge via usbC while using the headset
    2) Camera quality and lag
    Not really any significant lag that bothered me
    You really can’t see your keyboard, so while typing is fine, I sometimes struggle to find the special characters like @#%^ on my macbook pro
    Using workspace app, you can see your surroundings (and your laptop) or you can go to a different virtual workspace. The virtual is easier on they eyes, but then you can’t see your laptop or keyboard at all and you are just typing on a table - strange. They need a keyboard map
    I am TERRIFIED that I will spill something on my laptop
    Sometimes there is some lag in typing and mouse movement, but for the most part, I was impressed by how smooth everything was!
    So those were my preconceived concerns and initial reactions when I started using it. So far, so good. None of them were really dealbreakers. Instead, there was plenty to like about this setup.
    1) No screen glares from lights or windows
    2) No distractions
    Other people look kind of faceless
    Surroundings were less interesting and less clear than display
    Can’t use phone
    More immersive and therefore more productive
    3) It really works well! Much like actually having multiple monitors. They stay put perfectly, and even extensions like Magnet on Mac work to snap windows to different virtual displays
    4) Insead of turning your head, you can turn the monitors. This is incredible. Just use hand gestures to bring each monitor in front of you - is this different from alt tab? I think so. It definitely takes some practice. Not a smooth experience for me yet
    5) So I know I said I hate 360 audio, but this is a situation where it is cool.
    Which leads us into some hiccups and full blown problems
    2) Hand and control gestures do not affect your computer at all - your normal mouse and keyboard do that
    3) I think I need to wear earbuds if I plan to listen to music. The speakers on this headset are just ok. Passable for a tutorial or podcast, but I like to listen to music when I work (or listen to my own audio when editing)
    4) This thing is heavy. While my head is comfortable, my neck is definitely feeling the strain from an extra 1.6lb on my head
    5) The biggest issue of them all, and the reason I had to stop using this to replace my monitor
    The 1800x1920 resolution is definitely not great. If you break that down to each computer display, I would say it is equivalent to about 720p display. My laptop is 4k and I am usually not this close to it. I really look forward to the day this kind of headset is 5k or better.
    For now, I just make all my browser tabs about 200%
    Started working - let’s see how long I can work without eye pain
    20 min - Loosening fit
    45 min - Eyes feel like I am working on a 2005 CRT display. Same type of resolution, harsh brightness, and overall feel on my eyes. To continue, I am turning the brightness down to 50% and entering a lakeside workspace
    1 hr - I had to take a break. That really hurt my eyes
    Disclaimer: This video is purely based on my experiences, research, and opinions. You and only you are responsible for your actions. I made this channel to advise viewers and I truly hope to help you all out. I love making these videos and connecting with my viewers!
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Komentáře • 737

  • @elliotmarks06
    @elliotmarks06 Před rokem +756

    I honestly don't understand Facebook's marketing. All the stuff that they're showing off looks so incredibly stupid, and it's only with videos like these and MKBHD's that I actually get excited about VR tech.

    • @maxjames00077
      @maxjames00077 Před rokem +22

      So true

    • @ddanbeatz186
      @ddanbeatz186 Před rokem +19

      zuck advertising is bewildering for this device

    • @maxjames00077
      @maxjames00077 Před rokem +25

      @@ddanbeatz186 which is funny because he is the king of ads sales 😂

    • @obat04
      @obat04 Před rokem +1

      I think you have realized yet this device is not for mass production. They released it for developers. The hardware needs to be refined but they need to start releasing products so companies can star trying them out and see applications.
      Other companies, for example Apple, they don't do that. They just wait for others to try tmut out and then, when market is receptive, they release their finished product. Apple is just the contrary if an innovative company. They are the pirates of technology.

    • @GozaProductions
      @GozaProductions Před rokem +9

      It's the same thing as video game movies. They know we like the tech .. they gotta convert the normies with the baby stuff lol.

  • @jayshartzer844
    @jayshartzer844 Před rokem +234

    "At least Meta should do is map out your keyboard in front of you"
    You can do pass through for just the desk in horizon, workroom and selectively pass through areas in Immersive VR (which is the better app to use anyways and free) so not being able to see your keyboard as a matter of setting things up correctly. Additionally, there are a few keyboards that can be virtually represented. I use the Logitech K375s and it works pretty well

    • @rundeks
      @rundeks Před rokem +8

      Also it will map a MacBook which is what is being used in the video.

    • @lutaayam
      @lutaayam Před rokem +1

      Can one use Swype on a virtual keyboard?

    • @aidenchainey
      @aidenchainey Před rokem

      @@lutaayam no

    • @ellicel
      @ellicel Před rokem +3

      Isn’t there a way to dictate instead of using a keyboard? I’m very new to anything VR, but if I could have my monitors anywhere then one of the biggest things I’d want is to stop being tied to any desk or surface. I could easily imagine being able to do things like responding to email, planning to do’s, doing project management all without necessarily having to be seated at a desk.

    • @jayshartzer844
      @jayshartzer844 Před rokem

      @@ellicel The desktop app you are using would need microphone passthrough. Maybe they support it I don't know. The host computer would need dictation support for the power user stuff you are imagining. I don't use such software but I think it exists.

  • @tonyalarkon6877
    @tonyalarkon6877 Před rokem +100

    I've been using the quest 2 to replace my monitors for the past couple weeks and there's definitely a learning curve. Surprisingly I've been able to work all day lately using the Oculus and I'm actually enjoying it. I do use two machines, PC and Mac, so it's pretty handy having 3 screens (2pc and 1mac) while both laptops rest on my desk closed. I have the Logitech MX keyboard which is one of the keyboards that the Oculus brings into VR so I can see exactly where I'm typing; this keyboard and the MX mouse have the a feature called "flow" that allows you to move the cursor from one computer screen to the other one seamlessly like it was just one computer. About the resolution, yes it is not perfect but using the app "immersed" instead of workrooms I'm able to move to monitors close to me to and change the size until looks to readable, took a bit to get it but once you get it, you set and forget it. Also using sidequest I changed the Oculus settings to allow to render in full resolution the full screen area or the lenses, not only the center (which it does by default).

    • @tonyalarkon6877
      @tonyalarkon6877 Před rokem +31

      Forgot to mention, another very important thing that allows me to have the Oculus all day on me head is the headstrap, I got the boboVR M2 plus; that lets me remove the face seal so the Oculus is not pressing on my face, it floats in front of my face and the gap around still lets me see my real environment, I can take a peek to my phone, keyboard, coffee mug etc. Sorry for the super long comment but I do appreciate your video, I was thinking upgrading to a Pro but your review lets me know that none of the concerns I have right now have been solved on this version. Will keep the Oculus 2 for now, thanks!!!

    • @ironheavenz
      @ironheavenz Před rokem +3

      @@tonyalarkon6877 Great comment man!
      I've actually tried working using the quest 2 and gave up since I was struggling to read the text on the screen/screens
      What was that you mentioned about full resolution in full screen area of the lenses? I couldn't find anything on it
      Also couldn't find any list of compatible mice for the quest 2 or anyone trying them in vr, only keyboards, can you see the mx mouse inside vr?

    • @TriaxialConsultants
      @TriaxialConsultants Před rokem +1

      @@tonyalarkon6877 Great comment. This means there is no need to get the meta quest pro.

    • @randomaccount0073
      @randomaccount0073 Před 11 měsíci +4

      You lost me when you said it allows you to work all day. Something to reflect on.

    • @justinvu2016
      @justinvu2016 Před 11 měsíci

      @@randomaccount0073 what are u talking about?

  • @mvuto137
    @mvuto137 Před rokem +16

    I agree with you regarding the sound. Get yourself the Sound core buds made for the Meta quest. The sound is insane, and it comes with a dongle that provides zero latency. It can sync with your quest and your phone simultaneously.
    Oh, speaking of your phone, Immersed allows you to sync your phone as a monitor in your virtual space. So, while you still need to pick it up and touch it, it's screen is mirrored in VR.

  • @bravadomizzou
    @bravadomizzou Před rokem +8

    It looks promising. Having a virtual keyboard overlayed on the physical one seems like a must have until they have higher resolution passthrough. Thanks for the video. Google was failing me when trying to find info on using it as as a desktop to work with my computer and program.

  • @dragoonseye76
    @dragoonseye76 Před rokem +22

    I’m glad to see a review from a non-gaming POV. I don’t do office work but I was curious to see how the target group in this setting thought. I was wondering how the eye strain went.

  • @JoshuaB86
    @JoshuaB86 Před rokem +151

    Immersed will be the app to use. They are already ahead with some of the items mentioned like tracking your keyboard etc. You can even custom pass through specific areas for objects on your desk.

    • @FlockofSmeagles
      @FlockofSmeagles Před rokem +8

      Workrooms has keyboard passthrough as well. I'm not sure about the quest pro, but I've used it on Q2.

    • @DrunkAncestor
      @DrunkAncestor Před rokem +2

      Immersed is terrible

    • @halcyonramirez6469
      @halcyonramirez6469 Před rokem +2

      @@DrunkAncestor how so? its the only one with resizable monitors and passthrough? I'm coding on a cinema size screen.
      no other app allows you to do that

    • @CarlosRivera-by3dq
      @CarlosRivera-by3dq Před 11 měsíci

      @@halcyonramirez6469how is it for coding?

    • @kewa_design
      @kewa_design Před 7 měsíci

      @@DrunkAncestorit's great

  • @danielgormly6064
    @danielgormly6064 Před rokem +1

    Finally the video I’ve been waiting for!! Thank you

  • @360pickleball
    @360pickleball Před rokem +7

    As for seeing the keyboard when in a non-passthough office mode, it does support keyboard tracking for certain keyboards, and also there is a button on the right side of the desk that when pressed allows see-through for a portion of the desk. That allows seeing the keyboard, a mouse, and perhaps that drink. :) Thanks for the video!

  • @raynlim
    @raynlim Před 7 měsíci +1

    Love your honest review. Looking forward for your review on quest 3

  • @mikelockett19
    @mikelockett19 Před rokem +10

    A number of the issues mentioned in the video would be addressed by using Immersed instead of Workrooms. But, Workrooms is more stable overall and simplified, so I use them both interchangeably. Also, as there is keyboard tracking for certain keyboards, and I find that it works decently well.

    • @TriaxialConsultants
      @TriaxialConsultants Před rokem +1

      Hi Mike, using immersed, is the resolution better. I do a lot of reading and writing and I want to go into programming. I felt the quest pro would what I'll just need to get me out of this world and work . Please what is your experience with the immersed especially in terms of resolution.

  • @mrelisard
    @mrelisard Před rokem +42

    I’m really surprised that virtualdesktop hasn’t had a pass through home environment. I I find that to give the best visuals an least latency and higher refresh rate

  • @bl8nc
    @bl8nc Před rokem +4

    The keyboard mapping kind of works for specified keyboards - for example, my surface book keyboard is mapped and I can see my hands and a virtual representation of my keyboard. It's not perfect, but it's workable most of the time (until the mapping craps out because you've moved a bit) :D

  • @informativevideos1603
    @informativevideos1603 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Thanks for these honest comments... using for a longer period and issues with eye is a great concern

  • @pspicer777
    @pspicer777 Před rokem +2

    .. 2005 CRT!? I remember when those were the Bee 's knees! Really good review and timely. As soon as the resolution issue is addressed, this will be my go-to as I travel a lot of the time. Thanks!

  • @chiefchain7613
    @chiefchain7613 Před rokem +3

    Amazing video! Was really curious about this idea especially since I work at home and I agree with you about the aspect of plugging in a headset like that to the computer, that's a great idea!, wearing that for 8 hours would suck and it sucks the resolution isn't that good, I am just going to wait till they advance the technology, I bet a lot of those issues will be resolved after the next few launches of upgraded VR headsets.

  • @thadude3
    @thadude3 Před rokem +7

    You can setup a passthrough space in workrooms to see your keyboard and mouse. Also if you have a bluetooth keyboard you can bring it virtually into your space. but only a few keyboards are supported.

  • @fezkhanna6900
    @fezkhanna6900 Před rokem +2

    This review is spot on. I tried immersed and others but metas native app was the least laggy. I too had a headache after using it haha

  • @batfood
    @batfood Před rokem +1

    Great video, thanks. Btw - keyboard passthrough and even virtual recognition of your keyboard is already implemented and quite workable if you have the right keyboard and take the time to set it up.

  • @Dora-ox8ko
    @Dora-ox8ko Před 10 měsíci +7

    You can do this with Breylon, it's a 3d desktop which you can hook onto your PC or computer.

    • @pineappledoggo854
      @pineappledoggo854 Před 10 měsíci

      I have heard of them, they've been getting criticism but I think it is a cool idea

    • @maniacinsane
      @maniacinsane Před 10 měsíci

      @@pineappledoggo854 whats the difference between that and the Meta Quest Pro?

    • @Dora-ox8ko
      @Dora-ox8ko Před 10 měsíci

      @@maniacinsane It's way more convenient for your every day life and it's very easy to hook up from your PC. Also I have very sensitive headaches and eyes and they're easier on the eyes and even better for your eyes than a macbook.

    • @user-cv8li8qj7e
      @user-cv8li8qj7e Před 10 měsíci

      @@Dora-ox8ko its real overpriced tho, do you think its worth it? who would invest in it

    • @user-cv8li8qj7e
      @user-cv8li8qj7e Před 10 měsíci

      @@maniacinsane i think its more of a monitor/desktop rather than a headset

  • @Jean_E
    @Jean_E Před rokem

    Love your videos. Very clear and informative

  • @driver288
    @driver288 Před rokem +8

    You can track Apple wireless keyboard natively in the software and get it to show up in immersed as well as Hirizon workroom. This is also true for surface pro keyboards and some Bluetooth Logitech models like the K400 with track pad. More keyboards to come.

    • @FlexibleToast
      @FlexibleToast Před rokem

      Any decent mechanical keyboards that it tracks? Or maybe just a generic keyboard I can overlay over a mechanical keyboard?

  • @awzsdrcfgybhjimklp
    @awzsdrcfgybhjimklp Před rokem +1

    Dude I just got back from Best buy and was just about to make a video on this headset after watching many videos because none of them really answered my questions, but this was gold.

  • @chromery
    @chromery Před rokem +5

    I used to be able to see the mapped virtual keyboard of my MacBook in Workrooms no problem, just had to configure it in settings. I doubt that they removed the support for this feature (I was using MacBook Pro 13" and Air models over a year ago), also it would be strange if they didn't add the support for 14" and 16" models yet

  • @WillTech-
    @WillTech- Před rokem +1

    Great video! You always have the best reviews!

  • @Akab
    @Akab Před rokem +5

    My favourite is still virtual Desktop because I use my hmd for development and being able to seamlessly switch between vr and desktop mode is a godsend 💪
    However, like you said for yourself, for the type of work you do, I also can't recommend it and something like workrooms is probably better suited for that (and free).
    In the end, it probably depends on your own workflow. 👍

  • @MillenniumFalcon
    @MillenniumFalcon Před rokem

    Thanks Mike. You seriously have the coolest ideas.

  • @zane003
    @zane003 Před rokem +5

    I agree with you and I'm holding my breath for a better desktop replacement system that doesn't have to compete with gaming:
    A- lightweight simple AR set with quick pass through, and
    2- practical cable that plugs in to a computer or something in your pocket if necessary for the design, and
    3- good resolution for reading text
    4- hand gestures instead of a controller.

  • @visitken
    @visitken Před rokem

    Useful review as always. Thanks!

  • @MichelangeloDraconis
    @MichelangeloDraconis Před rokem +4

    But to improve the way to see these screens and read better you just need a very simple solution that is to move those screens nearer. I'm already doing all this you are trying with my computer and VR with Bigscreen (movies/work) or VorpX (games) and I can read perfectly with a lower HW resolution using a Vive Pro.
    I tried this for work but of course the Quest Pro should be a better option, you can move those screens to any custom position right? just try it. Try also Bigscreen with different screen setups, it looks amazing too.

  • @BlackenedGold
    @BlackenedGold Před rokem

    thanks for the vid, liked and subscribed, was intriguing, looking forward to this developing more.

  • @nocenk
    @nocenk Před 8 měsíci

    thx 4 ur honest review dude!

  • @rogerbruce2896
    @rogerbruce2896 Před rokem +1

    not ready for prime time yet, but definitely will be viable in the future once they fix or improve many of the issues you mentioned in your video. Great one!

  • @Malbashir
    @Malbashir Před rokem +70

    My take is:
    1- This WILL get better with time. It seemed like it was a rushed release, and many things were not yet complete.
    2- The second iteration of this line up (quest pro 2) will definitely be the one to buy

    • @taja1976
      @taja1976 Před rokem +2

      I agree, we are 1 maybe 2, hardware iterations away from it being great. These early steps are important though. Lot's to learn.

    • @mostpassiveuser8904
      @mostpassiveuser8904 Před rokem +6

      I think quest pro 3 will be the one. The displays will have to be extremely high resolution. We're far from there. I bet some other company does it before Meta.

    • @Malbashir
      @Malbashir Před rokem +2

      @@mostpassiveuser8904 No other company is pushing for this as much as Meta. The only other company is apple. We'll see their headset next year, then we'll have a better picture if they're closer or not. Till then I don't see any other company beating Meta

    • @nicnac2400
      @nicnac2400 Před rokem +1

      Also Meta can run a free $10 billion dollar value advertising campaign to 3 billion people

    • @pigeonramier6898
      @pigeonramier6898 Před rokem

      one to buy, depending of what you want to do, if only pcvr, not necesseraly.

  • @sproket343
    @sproket343 Před rokem +18

    There are a bunch of keyboards that appear in virtual space on the Pro. It works great.

  • @thefront5871
    @thefront5871 Před rokem +7

    I'll wait until version 2 or even 3 comes out! They should have many of the kinks and cons you've mentioned resolved or improved by then! But for now, can't miss something you haven't experienced before so I'll just patiently wait for improvements. heh! :)

    • @ProGuitarUA
      @ProGuitarUA Před rokem +2

      Well.. to make pro 2 or even pro 3 we need to buy this one :) so keep the demand, and they will finials polish that tech

  • @bradwiggins2332
    @bradwiggins2332 Před rokem +2

    Great review, especially your suggestions at the end. I would love to see someone deliver a device more focused on this mobile workspace concept rather than the do everything social game demo that all the meta devices have been so far.

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      @mikeObriene Před rokem

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  • @bemolicida1
    @bemolicida1 Před rokem

    Thank you, that’s exactly what I needed to know

  • @Studbeefpile
    @Studbeefpile Před rokem

    Great review and breakdown. Thank you

  • @ayusharora8141
    @ayusharora8141 Před 7 měsíci

    really great review!! thanks!

  • @petertheturt
    @petertheturt Před rokem +1

    Hi Mike, I think a few years back Meta actually did support virtual keyboard for a specific logitech keyboard? Could that also work for the quest pro in the AR environment?

  • @Aaliyashi
    @Aaliyashi Před 7 měsíci +7

    Very interesting! I'm wondering how this would be with the Quest 3 instead, seeing as that seems to improve on most of the issues.
    I just got one for casual gaming, but I was kind of amazed by the passthrough quality, where I could actually sit and use my normal computer and even read stuff on its monitor. At the same time having some floating menus around from the headset that I could interact with by hand gestures. This was kind of the most impressive thing for me 😆 So really a curious experience, but yeah I actually got the idea of having virtual monitors as well, which could be especially useful for traveling and stuff.
    It's quite funny to see that it's apparently a thing, so definitely something I'll be trying out. I'm still mostly concerned about the eye strain though, because I can definitely feel that.

    • @nimbus2146
      @nimbus2146 Před 7 měsíci

      what's your take on resolution and eye comfort

    • @Aaliyashi
      @Aaliyashi Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@nimbus2146 the resolution is fine, I think. It's looking a little grainy when reading small text, but I generally don't have any trouble reading stuff.
      I think eye comfort is the biggest issue. You can do stuff like turning the brightness down to minimum on the quest 3, put it on night mode (if it's late and you want more yellowish hues) and you can now also turn down the virtual monitor brightness too. So that all helps, but you'll still want to take a little break every 30-60 minutes, generally speaking.
      It's not too bad though, I've been able to use it a lot more than expected.

  • @joeysipos
    @joeysipos Před rokem

    Great review! Thanks. I think I might wait for the second generation quest pro for these issues to get worked out.

  • @misosong
    @misosong Před rokem

    Great review, really hoping this tech will get better! thanks for sharing :)

  • @talklein39
    @talklein39 Před rokem +2

    Such an important vid!
    A real actual experience with this new tech instead of just pointing out the specs and saying it's the future.

    • @toututu2993
      @toututu2993 Před rokem

      It is more than the future. It will dominate the future!!

  • @mvuto137
    @mvuto137 Před rokem +8

    Thanks for this. A positive review of the quest pro is good to see from time to time.
    I have the Quest 2 and I love it for work.
    I agree with others who posted that you use Immersed for work to solve the resolution issues.
    Also, you can get the Logitech K830 keyboard which shows up in the virtual space as a 3D object. You can literally pick it up in 3D. And that said, the keys are crystal clear to read.

    • @steveokocha9860
      @steveokocha9860 Před rokem

      How does it work in a dark room?

    • @steveokocha9860
      @steveokocha9860 Před rokem

      Iactally want to improve my productiveily witgh a VR haedset but still have the abilityy to use my keybord and mouse. Pls what do you suggest

    • @mvuto137
      @mvuto137 Před rokem +2

      @@steveokocha9860 A CZcamsr known as "The Mystical" turned me on a few weeks ago to a device called, "The IR Illuminator". It plugs into the quest directly and emits IR light which is all the quest sensors need to see.
      So your room stays in complete darkness, while you enjoy a well lit VR experience.
      It's only $27.99 on Amazon. Look up the KKCOBVR I2

    • @mvuto137
      @mvuto137 Před rokem +2

      @@steveokocha9860 I was exactly where you are before I bought the K830, and still swap between them depending on what I'm doing. I use the VR right in front of my corded keyboard and mouse via Immersed.
      It works just as well for Bluetooth keyboards and mice. Immersed is the way to go.

    • @steveokocha9860
      @steveokocha9860 Před rokem

      @@mvuto137 thanks so much for this info. I appreciate it alot.

  • @Harpoika
    @Harpoika Před rokem +1

    There should be also a very good anti aliasing in VR desktop use because tilting your head makes window edges too jagged and text even harder to read. I think VR tech is not ready yet to be used as PC, but i also believe that the OS has to be optimised for VR use and the whole approach must change.

  • @waxmannn
    @waxmannn Před 4 měsíci +1

    Thanks for taking one for the team.

  • @alpaykasal2902
    @alpaykasal2902 Před rokem

    I use the nReal Light for remote desktop daily, it has been my workflow for about 3 months. It's excellent. And you can actually see you phone (no camera pass through, real AR).

  • @sozno4222
    @sozno4222 Před rokem

    A lot of the resolution problem is the processing power. If you connect via Steam with a cable and use a remote screen it's night and day difference. Unfortunately I couldn't find pass through functionality that way though.

  • @caizza3
    @caizza3 Před rokem

    Appreciate the honest review. I was also concerned about the text readability.

  • @tuanoan5140
    @tuanoan5140 Před rokem

    How about the hand track comparing to Quest2 ?
    Is it fast and accurate? do you have to try many time before you can grab what you want?

  • @paulbirkett4989
    @paulbirkett4989 Před rokem

    Very helpful. Thanks!

  • @BatManWayneCorp
    @BatManWayneCorp Před rokem +1

    What's the max number of displays one could have when using the Meta Workspace app?

  • @blueblonde7105
    @blueblonde7105 Před rokem

    What program were you using in this video? There is no app with the name you said on meta quest pro. I see Horizons workspace another called virtual desktop and vSpatial. What program did you use?

  • @ethanvalentine4299
    @ethanvalentine4299 Před rokem +1

    i know they have been trying to map keyboards for a while now and there is a handful of them that work with the quest 2. I assume they would be tracked by this headset as well with the main one being the logitech k830. Which has mostly been out of stock over the last year or so... But, it is available now with logitech's site saying limited availability... and its also on sale

  • @jason002YT
    @jason002YT Před rokem +1

    To fix lag yo have to have your PC Ethernet plugged in with. Waited connection. Also, Quest VR does work with physically mapped keyboards that have been designed for that purpose. Also, the Emersed app lets you map out an area to see a normal keyboard as well as drinks etc.

  • @abbieguzman8818
    @abbieguzman8818 Před rokem

    Hi Mike! thank you for the video! I'm thinking on getting the quest 3 for manly work, but I don't know if they fix the keyboard issue yet? you have any updates on that ? Thank you!

  • @lukek3647
    @lukek3647 Před rokem +4

    Enable the laptop mapping feature. It can map your MacBook laptop and show an overlay in VR

    • @GizmoMaltese
      @GizmoMaltese Před rokem

      Sounds like he was missing a few things from his review

  • @FlockofSmeagles
    @FlockofSmeagles Před rokem +7

    Meta needs to realize that work rooms needs to be completely customizable. There are billions behind this project. They could do it. They really could.

  • @jondoe7194
    @jondoe7194 Před rokem

    Love it, can't wait till it gets better

  • @matt48005
    @matt48005 Před rokem

    The keyboard mapping and overlay works great for me... plut do you know when in the vr office you can set your desk area to pass through

  • @c6jones720
    @c6jones720 Před rokem

    Good video, I rcently tried this on the quest 2. Its a nice idea but I'm not sure I really get it. The three display thing with a mac is pretty good, but what bothers me is: You buy a logitec k830 to work with the quest, you expect it to work with this sort of app, the quest can barely see the keyboard and your hands at the same time and even then the keyboard input goes to the quest, not the remote computer (which I just dont understand). The other thing is that the horizon menu ought to be movable so you can put it away from your virtual screens. Its a nice idea, but I dont think its quite there yet.

  • @ligailluzia
    @ligailluzia Před rokem

    But what about nreal for VR display? I'm looking on them to use with macbook as main display for coding. To help me not looking down all the time when I work on my notebook. (used second display, but now it's not an option).

  • @JaiminBrahmbhatt
    @JaiminBrahmbhatt Před rokem

    Hey Mike, Great Video but small nit there is actually a keyboard tracking inbuilt maybe you should try that one it is so great I absolutely love it

  • @Anom597
    @Anom597 Před rokem

    desktop monitors from 2005 are legit, you take that back! i miss my CRT so bad

  • @mrelisard
    @mrelisard Před rokem +3

    The mapping out keyboard is an old, difficult problem, it’s keyboard specific. You’re lucky you are using Mac, as Apple keyboard( the freestanding) is mapped, also hand over keys need to be mapped too.

  • @Dralisx
    @Dralisx Před rokem

    Immersed was already mentioned but the good thing is in this app, you can cut out the keyboard from the virtual rooms so you can see only the keyboard wile you're in VR. Some keyboards are supported to have them in the VR... Maybe that's a solution for you

  • @feliciachavez
    @feliciachavez Před 10 měsíci

    Very helpful, thanks.

  • @BS-we7xp
    @BS-we7xp Před rokem +3

    I use it every day for work. My home office is small, and I can't accommodate 3 monitors. I do wish it had more resolution, but it's good enough. It would of easily cost me over $1000 to get 2 matching monitors for my current setup. Its portable, and I can use it for games and media consumption. Look at it that way its not a bad deal. All these features work on the Quest 2 for anyone interested. Try it out. The only other option we might have in the near future is Apple headset. That could be way better. I imagine that will cost a ton of money.

    • @iakobkv271
      @iakobkv271 Před rokem

      such a cool concept:
      saves space
      saves money
      you can use it for work and gaming
      you can use it for travel 🤷‍♂️
      what do you want more

    • @Cruzylife
      @Cruzylife Před rokem

      Do you use immersed or horizon workrooms?

    • @BS-we7xp
      @BS-we7xp Před rokem

      @@Cruzylife workrooms

  • @issawrapppp
    @issawrapppp Před rokem +5

    You do realize they support tracked keyboards in VR, right?
    Also, immersed on Wi-Fi Direct is way better than Workrooms. The resolution on workrooms screens is GARBAGE, you can super sample in Immersed and it looks like 1440P.

  • @carlosbarrera3576
    @carlosbarrera3576 Před rokem

    Mike you can set up the keyboard in that app, so you will have a virtual keyboard synchronized with your MacBook, btw thank you so much for the comment about the display text, that is my main concern, but other youtubers don't talk about it, and I want to know if it worth it to work

  • @davbhard
    @davbhard Před rokem

    What kind of laptop are you using? because I've seen that non vr ready computers are almost impossible to run VR on

  • @mmcckkiinnnnoonn
    @mmcckkiinnnnoonn Před rokem +1

    an AR overlay using passthrough (video) is pretty cool but I really hope companies put more time into AR overlaying real reality, that is, no video feed and AR overlays through clear lenses the likes of Microsoft's Hololens and Magic Leap. True those aren't the best examples, but I really think the commercial adoption rate will far exceed the direction they're heading. Especially once you consider additional features like much faster head tracking, and eye-tracking to more accurately position objects in 3D space. Basically, everything Meta Quest Pro is doing minus the video feed... and the bulk. I'm sure we'll get there one day.

  • @fly2724
    @fly2724 Před rokem

    This is a really solid 1st/2nd step.

  • @elijasslezas2163
    @elijasslezas2163 Před rokem

    I work this these glasses fro month and its great!

  • @Ta3allamOnline
    @Ta3allamOnline Před rokem

    For the keyboard I think you could make a small passthrough area on the keyboard only. We got that already on the real quest 2.

  • @TheSocketshock
    @TheSocketshock Před rokem +2

    This is what I want VR for, or AR. Sad to see this late in the game its not quite there yet. I would prefer thethered for the lower latency for sure specially for work. Hopefully v2 will be the answer. Woild love to get rid of my monitor completely and just have a vr headset for all the things.

    • @WigganNuG
      @WigganNuG Před rokem

      Check latest top replies from MANY more power users than the video; Looks like with Immersed app and the right kind of keyboards many are using the Pro for productivity and find it has a lot of advantages. But for sure, it's a first Gen formfactor and I'd wait for next Gen or more until they work out all the friction points including weight. I can imagine a variety of solutions.

  • @calebweintraub1
    @calebweintraub1 Před rokem

    Helpful review

  • @elytrunks1807
    @elytrunks1807 Před rokem +6

    What about the motion sickness? I found strange that you didn't mention it. I don't know if it gets better on Quest Pro, but on Quest 2 it is impossible for me to work for an entire hour without a break, because it gets me really really dizzy. Maybe it's just a matter of using it more, or maybe it feels more comfortable on Quest Pro, but so far not so good using the Q2.

    • @MatthewHarrington64
      @MatthewHarrington64 Před rokem

      Agreed. Between this and the overall jankiness shown in the video, VR is still a hard pass for me sadly.

    • @BOOMADAM
      @BOOMADAM Před rokem

      Wasn't mentioned as that's personal preference. Personally I don't get motion sick, so for me it wouldn't be on a list. But for others it would.

  • @tactical1015
    @tactical1015 Před rokem +1

    I tried something like this for coding so I could have multiple Windows open but with the quest 2 it just felt off. Maybe I’m just accustomed to monitors. If I could have multiple machines projected into one space that would be lovely. I still haven’t figured out a way to split a large screen between 2 machines and I don’t think it’s even possible.

    • @karstenaugustiner6907
      @karstenaugustiner6907 Před rokem

      You could use remote access apps like anydesk and bring in the windows of those as single screens.

  • @curtisroggi6117
    @curtisroggi6117 Před rokem

    I’m sure someone’s pointed out Tracked Keyboards by now, but if not, here you go. They’ve got ones that project a 3D model into supported apps.

  • @Clara_Page
    @Clara_Page Před rokem

    If you have one of the supported keyboards the headset can project a sharper virtual clone of your keyboard over the top of your real physical keyboard... its one of the reasons the Logitech K830 is so hard to find now.... actually macbook keyboards are one of the supported keyboards in horizen workspace
    Unfortunatlely they only seem to support US layouts which means the enter key is misalined with my uk keyboard

  • @badam1814
    @badam1814 Před rokem

    Thank you so much for this review. This is the best use of this tech and I didn't think it would be worthwhile until the resolution is higher, and I was right. Thanks for saving me the trouble. I think Apple's is supposed to be higher res. Fingers crossed.

  • @n1lknarf
    @n1lknarf Před měsícem

    Thanks for tackling the basics; vr is not ready yet for real world application if there's mouse lag and no keyboard mapping.

  • @modshehata
    @modshehata Před rokem

    Thanks for the video, in Windows version of Meta, you cannot add more than 3 monitors, one thing I like in other tools like BigScreens is that you can move those screens around, resize them and get them closer to you so you can read text, but for meta, they are curved around you in one position :( .

  • @ElanthamilPandi
    @ElanthamilPandi Před rokem +2

    Innovation always keeps us in the edge of our seats! From your review it seems at present it's not very good to replace a laptop in any instance but How good is this for movie watching?

    • @MikeOBrienMedia
      @MikeOBrienMedia  Před rokem +3

      This is definitely a fun device to use for all sorts of games and media. For movies, it is immersive and fun. The resolution is not really an issue for me here, but I would definitely recommend using bluetooth earbuds

    • @cellexterminator
      @cellexterminator Před rokem

      @@MikeOBrienMedia would head phones work?

    • @ElanthamilPandi
      @ElanthamilPandi Před rokem +1

      @@MikeOBrienMedia Very descriptive! Thanks for making such videos. I'm a Big fan of yours. Keep going... Cheers🎉.

  • @ayolyaayolya1633
    @ayolyaayolya1633 Před 11 měsíci

    What are the light straps going top to down in the vr? Is it like that all the time? Must be tiresome

  • @johnmclaren3221
    @johnmclaren3221 Před 8 měsíci

    Have you tried any other VR for the same task? If can not see keyboard and if picture is in not high resolution then it's useless

  • @ranggaputra7750
    @ranggaputra7750 Před rokem

    the problem of the keyboard are really massive for me, in quest 2 they mentioned compatible with logitech, but sometimes it not working properly and very depend with the lightroom, thanks for mentioned this still an issue on quest pro, i will wait they fix this.

  • @davidbetancourt4028
    @davidbetancourt4028 Před 8 měsíci

    Guess I'm going to try this with the Quest 3 in a week & a half. Good video.

  • @Adam-qq5qb
    @Adam-qq5qb Před rokem

    Hi. Nice video. I work more than 1,5 years only in VR. At the moment the software from meta is not good enough. I work and use Immersed. Better quality.

  • @zach3861
    @zach3861 Před 4 měsíci

    The largest benefit of using the headset as an all purpose setup to is how you can give yourself such a degree of streamlined workflow while also allowing you to zero in on the task at hand. Its a weird paradox in the social media age though. A device that allows for more focus is also isolating from the rest of the world on a physcial/social level.

  • @Marx311
    @Marx311 Před 4 měsíci

    I have a question where did you downolad the programm I cant find it.

  • @Blessed372
    @Blessed372 Před rokem +24

    Great video. This is actually my use case for the quest pro. I use the Logitech k830 keyboard and it tracks really well. I've also found that the immersed VR app works better than workrooms since you can adjust the resolution. The quest pro has been a game changer in regards to work productivity.

    • @maxjames00077
      @maxjames00077 Před rokem +3

      Omg that's so cool and good news for the future of XR!

    • @broimnotyourbro
      @broimnotyourbro Před rokem +4

      The Apple “magic keyboard” and the keyboard on my MacBook Air are supported as well.

  • @Mangolite
    @Mangolite Před 11 měsíci

    Hello Mike, I am interested in your thoughts about Apple Vision Pro. The Vision Pro is a computer on a headset utilizing their visionOS for spatial computing. Will you use the Vision Pro when it becomes available?

    • @oliverpolden
      @oliverpolden Před 7 měsíci

      It the moment it appears Vision OS will be more like an iPad OS experience than a desktop experience. If they had a full desktop OS then I would seriously consider one but iPad OS would severely limit it.

  • @e13e7
    @e13e7 Před rokem

    Thanks for this review. Unfortunate that no one has really focused on a truly basic HMD - I don’t even need movement tracking or a wide FOV, just a fixed screen with crisp text.

    • @oliverpolden
      @oliverpolden Před 7 měsíci

      Those do exist. Just search for AR glasses, there are at least four manufacturers Nreal, Xreal, Vuzix and another I can’t remember, but they’re still far from perfect and having a screen “glued” to your head is not great, you can only move your eyes, may induce nausea, they also suffer from blurring at the edges and an FOV that is too low for desktop work.

  • @msconfig9786
    @msconfig9786 Před 11 měsíci

    How can I try this? I can’t any find any videos showing how to set this up.

  • @rileycasey7009
    @rileycasey7009 Před rokem

    Can you use a regular mouse or do I need to use the controller the whole time? I want to use this on a plane with a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse while leaving my computer in my bag.. possible or no?

  • @FrazerKirkman
    @FrazerKirkman Před 8 měsíci

    They do map out many keyboards. In the settings try adding your keyboard.
    If it is one of the supported keyboard, you get a perfect virtual keyboard in your space.