"I couldn't see her go down" - J. B. Ismay - Titanic Investigation Hearings (DAY 1)
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- Extracted from the Official Transcript of the United States Senate Hearings into the sinking of the RMS Titanic and voice generated by AI.
Can you imagine such a hostile cross-examination, THE DAY AFTER ARRIVAL in New York happening today? The man is traumatised!
This helps me in my thinking that Ismey was brutally attacked for surviving. For what I hve heard, the movie helped to give him a bad image, but he really tried to help passangers to aboard the boats when they didn0t want to and left when he saw no others ocupping a empty space. For me, at least for the moment, is just another survivor that was lucky.
Well, it would be convenient for him to answer in such way, though.
Several male passengers did put other female and children passengers on boats just to be close to them and sneak in when they saw an opening. Ismay wasn't the only one.
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Read the book , ''Maiden Voyage'' by Geoffrey Marcus. the best and most detailed reveal I've ever read; coveing every apect of this tragedy. and I have 26 books about the Titanic.
There is sworn testimony from a few survivors who said he was helping people into the boats (encouraging them, etc). On his getting into the lifeboats "We needed an oarsman, everyone [even some men and crew] were on the boat, he volunteered." Him being vilified was a smear campaign and caught on to the Nazi propaganda film about the Titanic, and it continued from them onto later motion picture versions.
The good senator must have been playing to the reporters in the audience. He was nearly treating Ismay as a hostile witness. The grilling was rather intense.
Basically, following the William Rudolph Hearst narrative about Ismay. Many inquiries back in those days wanted a villain and, like the Empress of Ireland's sinking, 2 years later, it was purely a whitewash for political reasons overall.
@@SolidAvenger1290 Still, it really didn't help that he tried to essentially flee the country almost immediately after getting there while being (badly) sneaky about it.
@@Davrn54 If you watch Ocealiner Designs video(s) on this, you'll know he essentially thought that any inquiry would be held in the UK, since the ship was built and owned by UK companies. So he wasn't trying to flee the inquiry, rather he was trying to make sure he would make it to it on time
I don't see any unfairness in the line of questioning. While I am sure that Mr. Ismay was still distressed only a day later, his answers were quite coherent and helpful.
Thanks so much for this amazing piece of history brought to life! This is truly incredible!
Thank you! Glad you like it!! 🤗
Do more of these . Found it fascinating
WTF is wrong with you? The captions and narration were AWFUL.
I get annoyed when people demonize Ismay for saving his own life. Its not like HE sank the ship. Nobody wants to die. It doesn't make you a coward.
And no-one should be obliged to die on a sinking ship for no reason whatsoever but pride and silly expectations. Him staying on that ship to die would've served no purpose for anyone.
J. Bruce is NOT the villain of the RMS TITANIC's story. With the TITANIC, there are no villains to be found. It was a tragedy through-and-through and her crew did everything humanly possible to save lives, notify other ships and stations of their distress and keep the lights on over an hour and a half after they should have gone out.
While there aren’t villains, there are countless heroes and heroic spotlights to be found during that fateful night/morning.
Bruce showed his true colours when he aided people into the boats, only to board the lifeboat when no one else moved for the boat. That’s a display of heroism, even if it’s of minor note in comparison to the likes of Jack Phillips, the RMS Carpathia, Second Officer Lightoller and most especially the engineering crew of the TITANIC.
I believe that at the time it was difficult for people to accept that it was simply "an accident." A cultural aspect lost on us today was at the time most political leaders would have had some form of classical education and would be familiar with the concept of hubris. In their minds it must have happened because someone had the hubris to believe that the ship was perfectly safe (or "unsinkable") and not taken heed of ice warnings.
It is easy to see an inevitably disaster in hindsight, but the public wanted someone to blame, and Ismay was made the scapegoat.
The Captain is to blame, he is in full command and everything is his responsibility.
He had plenty of information and made very poor decisions. The ship was built fine, operation on the other hand... terrible.
That's fair. Even the Captain whose ultimately To blame, maintains his honor by going down with the ahip. This guy, didn't have to do that.
Arrogance and ignorance sank that ship. First from the people saying it was unsinkable, that God Himself couldn't sink it. Then there were MANY warnings about the icebergs straight ahead that were completely ignored and brushed off. One of the officers actually told another ship's officer to "shut up" after he desperately tried to warn about large icebergs directly in the Titanic's path, and coming up fast.
Other ships that had tried to warn the Captian, and his officers, stopped their ships for the night because it was too dangerous. The Captain should have known to do the same. The Captian also should have should known that by turning the ship instead of taking the hit head on, it would cause more damage on impact. It was said that had full knowledge of that information and didn't pay it any heed.
And then there was the ship whose Captain deliberately ignored the distress signals from the Titanic because he didn't want to be overwhelmed by desperate passengers bombarding his ship. The only ship whose Captian tried to save the passengers in the water, Carpathia, was too late and could only help the people already in the lifeboats. Which brings me to another point. It was completely unforgivable that were not nearly enough lifeboats on the Titanic.
Arrogance that the ship couldn't sink was part if the reason for that. There were most definitely people who should have been held accountable for all the lives that were lost that night. Call them villains, or simply negligent, makes no difference to me.
Yes they are
The people that make those laws allowing ships got just 1/3 of needed lifeboats.
The captain
Some oficiales that let lifeboats go with 15/20 passangers.
I do NOT vilify Ismay at all. Great video!!😊
too kind
Yeah…it’s easy to vilify him. We weren’t there… in both the sense of “we didn’t see it … and we don’t know what we’d do if it was us”
He did have a lot of information about the sinking if he had gone down with the ship we would have never found out about a lot of it. I get people are mad that he snuck on a boat when so many women and children were still on and sadly had to die but it would of most likely happened if he got on or not especially being the boat was already being lowered while he got on it. I don’t think he was as bad as a man history portrayed him anytime people tell stories they always like to make someone in that story the bad person.
A rather extroardinary piece of history . Well worth the listen.
Smith asked Fifth officer Lowe what an iceberg was made of. Lowe replied, "Ice."
Great answer!
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Thank you so much! I love these so much!
Thank you for this. It's shocking how life-like the AI voices are! Really scary actually.
LOLOLOL!!! OMG I LOVE YOUR SARCASM 🥰
Poor Ismay. It is sad but the mentality, even today, is that if you were not a woman or a child you are a coward and even if you survived by sheer happenstance oftentimes you are still branded a coward.
In most cases you would, in fact, be a coward. But the pandemonium of the sinking did not present a normal case. Ismay did nothing wrong, anymore than the sailors who at the end tried to launch collapsibles for themselves.
Ismay had an English accent. AI doesnt have that?
This is not a recording of the actual conversation
@@adamshaw8214Are you alright? OG-comment recognised that this is not original audio by asking if AI (Artifical Intelligence) doesn't have an English accent.
So-called "Artificial Intelligence" algorithms apparently can't even tell the difference between the word "third" and "3D" 🙄 Would have thought with all this accelerated learning it's supposed to be doing that would be pretty basic by now @@mikipav1064
I'm glad you've taken such an interest in this important, if not critical, issue.
AI doesn't. It's programmed by human. With all the human frailties 😮
Thanks for taking the time to do this! This was so interesting and glad I didn't have to read to follow along!
Thank you!! I'm glad you liked it!
Taking their time??? If they took their time (assuming a human made this) there wouldn't be so many mistakes with the captions and narrations. The channel owner is just trying to make quick cash. Siri could do a better job narrating this crap.
The ship sank because it hit an iceberg. End of testimony.
But why and how? That is important, and the answer(s) aren't always so simple.
@@carlousmagus5387 I'm not downplaying the interesting human and technical story, or why people seek details..But in the main, the why and how is completely straight forward and well understood. The captain immediately understood the cost of his folly, and the builder made the calculation based on damage in minutes. The ship hit a massive object at speed. No rivets or steel type would have made a difference.
I hope you do the testimony of Lowe too where he and Ismay argued during the hearing about the fact Lowe told him to "go to hell".
Lowe told Ismay to “get the hell out of the way” after Ismay yelled “ Lower away! Lower away!”
I think that Lightoller was the ultimate villain. He refused entry into the lifeboats of men, even when there were no women around. How many men could have been saved? Also, They could’ve stuffed those boats with another 500 passengers. Lots of mistakes were made before, during, and after the collision…
Any man that got onto a lifeboat that night while a woman or child remained on the ship should feel, and would be right to feel, like an absolute coward.
A 1911 telegram exists from Ismay to the New York office expressing his desire that Olympic stop arriving early on Tuesday nights. He said he didn’t like passengers wondering which day they would dock and that consistent Wednesday morning arrivals were better than occasionally arriving early.
I never knew that.
For.context, this sounds like the US inquiry which took place soon after the survivors arrived in NY.
There was another inquiry by the British board of trade which was more extensive.
Is that one on CZcams perchance.?
This man had to suffer the rest of his life being branded a coward and a liar just from being a survivor. If he’d have stayed he may have died, who can blame him.
Pretty awesome. You got any more?
This is incredible, thank you for taking all this time and turning this into a sort of audio book! I always prefer listening to stuff so this is very welcome, great job!
Also you can really sea Mr. Ismay's grief in a pictures of the inquiry.
Thank you so much for your words! To be honest, it was really hard to put it all together, although only a few people will apreciate it. I'm glad you're one of them, enjoy it!
Toys 🧸🐻
Yes I also enjoy listening to things like this as appose reading lines.
Thanks to creator too
The AI voices add a subtle level of comedy which I appreciate.
lol Yep. "The time was nine point three zero". lol
Ismay sounds like Star Trek's Data
@@Mike1614b You're so right. In fact, this entire experience smacks of Season 1-2 Data "creating something fun" for the rest of the crew, a holonovel of the Titanic Inquiry, and this is literally the recorded audio. The only thing missing are the Data-esque android characters engaging in the scene.
Please do more full transcripts from the inquiry 🙏
Every answer was so careful and unrevealing.
Any chance you can upload more of these from the other witnesses ?
I don't think so, it takes a lot of time and money to do it...
you should really do it...@@titanictreasures
Early riser at 9 point three zero lol
Titanic
He stayed the night before at the Southwestern hotel which was a stone's throw away
If any Titanic design and nature of damage allowed her to stay afloat to properly launch lifeboats.
Chief inquisitor Senator Smith has just been told Mr Ismay boarded the ship at Southampton yet he seems to think he boarded at Liverpool ??
"It's hard to judge a man's age"
Hold up while I confidently narrow his age down to 42 or 43.
Other parts?
I'm having trouble picturing half the rowers facing forward and half to the rear (reason Ismay gave for not seeing ship).
I believe there are photos of the survivors in lifeboats that illustrate what he meant by that.
He wouldnt have been able to see the ship anyways it was pitch black.
In the movie, B-52 was Rose cabin.
Because Rose wasn't real. They didn't include Charlotte Cardeza (the occupant of the other super de luxe suite rooms) in the movie
Rose was real. She just changed her name to rose dawson@Firemarioflower
Lol rose was definitely not real
@@michaelspoto8720 Please tell me you're trolling
man i got excited to hear Ismay's voice and it was a shitty AI
It seems like people back then were actually smarter than now which is sad.
Objection! Asked and answered! Objection! badgering the witness!
When come Day 2?
Probably never, it takes a lot of time to make it.
"In the olden days" he says back in 1912.
Also "in the future" they would've said about the time of first world war
They jinxed titanic by saying the ship was unsinkable
WHITE STAR NEVER SAID THAT. THE MEDIA DID
WSL said she was "practically unsinkable," not unsinkable without a doubt..
People held off boarding her they could have he was helping people board. He was the scapegoat
This is interesting for AI
He certainly distorted the truth several times. His testimony contradicts the testimony of many people.
When AI reads lines you get bits like the third being read as "3D."
Not "Males and passengers" it's supposed to be "mails and passengers" as the Titanic was part of the Royal Mail Service, where the name RMS Titanic comes from. The ship was loaded with a fair bit of letters and parcels to be delivered across the US.
I know it has many mistakes. But for me, as non English speaker, it was really difficult to correct it. Thanks for your appreciation!
WHAT HAS AL READ GOT TO DO WITH IT?
I appreciate the brief and exact way this is spoken.
I don't blame him for taking a seat but i bet families of all the children that died feel differently. I understand both sides.
The first hearings in the US a couple of days after were the only ones of historical value. 6 months later back in the UK, it was a finger pointing mission and bickering about how well built she was & not breaking in 2 like so many testimonies stated.
Titanic engine
The questions keep being echoed…I’d would say “are you having trouble hearing me or are you deaf?” 😂😂
I didn't know she arrived in Southampton on Wednesday the 3 d
Yes, actually James Cameron arrived there to make the 3D film 🤣🤣 There are some audio mistakes, but most of it is correct.
Is that Bill the Butcher speaking?
My God, did they ever crucify this man almost everything you hear or read about Bruce Ismay is an absolute lie due to people being jealous of his wealth and success the fact of the matter is, the man helped as many people as he could, and then stepped into a lifeboat just when there was no one else was around just as you or I would act.
He was nothing but compassionate and helpful to any survivor after everything was said and done he actually went above and beyond only to be unfairly judged in history, including in James Cameron‘s movie. If you want to know, the real story of him, go, watch the videos on ocean liner designs channel…
Kind of a shame what happened to him it was a no win scenario for him. Sadly the White Star Line kind of went with him. From what I read he did all the charitiibly could and put forth the upgrades to Olympic and Britannic before he resigned. What could have been had not the Titanic sunk.
Sounds ai generated. Especially ismay. That's a robot voice
I see not much has changed in 100 years. While I think he was blamed too much someone must have tipped them off to something because he definitely failed to remember a lot of basic events and was definitely dodging questions he should have absolutely known the answers to.
I'm in partial disagreement on these posts. Bruce Ismay was the Chairman the White Star Line and a survivor of the Titanic, yes. He repeatedly said "I think, I don't remember". How do you not recall that traumatic event? However, He should have had much more common sense to have had more life boats across the board on the worlds largest ship in 1912. Or maybe 100 years ago they were just naive after over 2,000 + ships were lost at sea? Just in a 500 year period.. Come on...really? He thought his construction was just so good and what happened in the past could no happen again - it's all about the money and the tickets they could sell. You can disagree, but riddle me this..why have a boat that size and not have life boats to carry ALL of them off - Just in Case?
Titanic was equipped with a brand new lifeboat davit that can easily accommodate *two* row of boats in case of one, but as of that time the regulations still limit the lifeboat capacity to 16. The rule would eventually have been implemented, of course, but Titanic’s sinking emphasized on the urgency of the matter. Very tragic
Arrogance. They wanted to destroy their rivals especially Cunard by having the entire ship perceived as a unsinkable lifeboat. So having lifeboats in deck would have been a contradiction to them. Warped thinking.
What difference would more lifeboats make? They didn't have enough time to load and launch the boats they had, more boats in the way would have probably slowed down the evacuation and spread the crew out further, costing more lives
@@jennim282 every ship that era was built so it could be its own lifeboat. That’s the standard they aim to achieve
@@RobHall1984 they had time to launch all but two boats
J.B. Ismay was a Lancashireman!
It's hip to be square!
I feel so bad for Ismay. Because of anti Ismay journalists, he was painted as a bad guy.
I love how pechalant and impatient or leading the Americans sound questioning him.
Bad AI aside, this is really fascinating. I'm learning for the first time that Ismay referred to what we call the Boat Deck as the Sun Deck.
The man narrating Bruce Ismay's quotes should have been British, but anyway...
Not one person lost a seat because he took one. He was the fall guy. Unfortunate. PS. Had they had more life boats it is likely fewer would have been saved. Had the Davits been full it would have taken longer to load. They barely got all 20 boats launched.
Fantastic to listen to. The Senator is really quite irritating. It sounds as tthough he had already formed his opinion of Ismay, prior to this committee. That, and his awful interrogation style.
This needs an Oscar
You mean Ismay or the video? 😂😂
Both
I’m very interested in the titanic, and even though this is not real
This is still something special
That you made
The titanic ship never went anywhere near Liverpool.
IT WAS THE PORT OF REGISTRATION. AFTER THE SEA TRIALS, WHICH WERE SEVERELY SHORTENED, THEY SHOULD HAVE CALLED IN AT LIVERPOOL, BUT SALED FOR S'HAMPTON.
MORE SUSPICIONS FOR THE OLYMPIC SWITCH, BELIEVER'S.
Smith sounds like martin sheen.
James Cameron needs to re write the script on Bruce Ismays roll in the movie Titanic.. He got the script wrong!
I wonder how he could tell that the other people in the boat were third-class passengers. I know some of them were Lebanese.
What a bunch of stupid questions by the Senator.
How did he escape? He could've given his seat to a child.
There were no one else around willing to get in. He looked for women/children/men willing to take a spot but none did. He was not the last seat in the lifeboat but his lifeboat was very much under capacity. He spent the whole time of the sinking making sure women and children were getting into the boats and only at the very end did he finally get in. The movies villanized Ismay, much like James Cameron's film did Murdoch dirty.
@@TheNavyShark If there were no one else around, how come over 1500 souls went to their deaths? Were they already dead?
@@MrBaritone38 A lot of the lifeboats were launched not to capacity, including Ismay’s. It was being lowered and when he saw no women or children around and no one else was getting in he took the one of the seats.
Plus despite many people’s misconceptions it wouldn’t have mattered if there were enough lifeboats for everyone. There simply wasn’t enough time to launch all the boats. The last launched wasn’t even technically launched, instead it floated away and was nearly pulled under due to suction/undertow.
@@MrBaritone38because it was a massive ship, a number of the passengers stayed below, and a number of the passengers hesitated to get into the lifeboats in the first place, there were no more passengers in the area, hence Ismay got in. The world isn’t black and white; a number of the lifeboats launched were actually underfilled, so by your logic, why didn’t they have more women and children?
They kept it close to the vest that the ship was sinking to avoid causing a panic. Ismay knew she was doomed. He should have tried harder to rescue more people. He sure made sure his butt was saved. I know the newspaper magnate hated him but he wasn’t totally off base.
Ralph Kramden memory 🤔 Ummm
Homina Homina Homina hom hom hom I don't think so I can't remember.. you'll have to ask Alice or Norton or maybe Trixie remembers..😂 Paaaleeeze 🤣🤣🤣 Great Job and Video 💯 👍✌️
Im a portuguese speaker..why they call titanic she??
“this tradition relates to the idea of a female figure such as a mother or goddess guiding and protecting a ship and crew”
The Senator is annoying repeating Ismay's answers.
No brothers on the ship
There was one. He died but his wife and child survived.
Gosh, no wonder 5th Officer Lowe hated Senator Smith, constantly repeating responses back at them, drive me crazy too
As a private investigator I can tell you that repeating a question back to a witness is not unusual. I helps to make sure the witness understood the question fully and to see if he answers differently.
He was in room B-52? I guess you could say his room was a.... Love Shack. 😉
Oh god.....
Either that or he was a top bomber lol
So many really stupid questions....
Also gotta keep in mind that no one knew anything about the incident at the time.
I always felt bad for Bruce, we dont blame you good sir.
GOOD TO HEAR THE SPOKEN SCRIPT OF WHAT WAS SAID AT THE SO-CALLED ENQUIRY; ( A WHITEWASH---LIKE THE LONDON ONE) BUT ISMAY DID NOT HAVE A AMERICAN ACCENT.
Why would Englishmen be speaking in American accents? 🤣🤣🤣
It's an AI recreation, not the actual voices.
The transcriber of the verbal recording needs to be FIRED! Do they understand proper English?! Horrible.
😂😂
If he is b.s who's to really know.
I doubt there was absolutely zero passengers anywhere near the vicinity they were.
All im saying is, would you expect this man to say anything else.
Especially when others who "felt" responsible in big and small factors felt guilty or bad in some sense to where they go dwn with the ship.
And ismay was very entitled, soft and spoiled man. He knew how it'd look. He knew how to answer those questions.
I could’ve sworn i heard him say the ship didn’t exceed 70 revs overall but was 75 Tuesday .. oh wait Saturday .. like come on
He forgot to mention the part where he laughingly counted his expected insurance money while twirling his mustache
Didn't know the Titanic was relatively underinsured?
May I use this video in one of my videos please? I will put full credit to you and your channel including a link to your channel.
Sure!
@@titanictreasures thank you very much
Senator smith sounds like Ben Shapiro.
Did not see her go down… - what a crock of shit. He knew bloody well what was going on. And why he survived.
Why do you hate the guy exactly? I wouldn't be able to look.
@@sebcat04 cut the crap. He had to say he didn’t look, so that he could avoid lying in front of the hearings. Otherwise he would have had to touch the subject of explosions and break ups. Which was to be covered up by both hearings in order to cover up the real reasons for the sinking, which Ismay knew pretty much all too well.
@@of1300 The "real reasons" for the sinking, which were?
@@sebcat04 do some research and some reasoning. Wake up.
@@of1300 I'm asking you for your opinion sir.
Bruce Ismay was English they could have at least got an English actor to act the part here
You know, for an AI voice program, this was tolerable. Most of the time I cannot even remotely tolerate AI voices. I could listen to this. Still think Ismay was a complete ass.
When I think of Ismay I think of the tin man the scarecrow and the lion because Ismay didn't have a brain he didn't have a heart and he had absolutely no fucking courage
Such a lier. He was the one that set the number of lifeboats on Titanic. Then he tells the inquiry he isn't sure how many lifeboats on board. Lier and coward!!!!
No he did not.
The number of lifeboats was set by the British gov board of trade regulations. Titanic was actually carrying more lifeboats than the board of trade regulations. Titanic was inspected and passed as safe for sea by b.o.t. represenatives.
J B Ismay zero input into the number of boats, thats why he did not know how many boats in total (including collapsables) Titanic carried.
@@martinevans3863I read that Carlisle of Harland and Wolf wanted 48 lifeboats. But Ismay nixed the idea, saying that passengers would freak out.
Please. Stop. Using. AI. Content creators, PLEASE STOP.
Bullshit ismay, bullshit. Number one saving on lifeboats. White star insisted on appearance over safety. There was also a fire on board when you left dock. It weakened the hull and as a result a big gaping hole was left to rip the ship open.
Both your statements are dilettante's drivel. Don't butt in into topics you know nothing about. Coal fires were fairly common in steamers and their temperature was so low that they couldn't structurally influence the plating at all. Also there was no "big gaping hole" and the coal bunker itself was only six meters wide (front to back), thus totally insignificant in comparison to the length of the iceberg damage.
@@CzechMirco Ha I've been studying this for a number of years. Thank you very much. I know quite a lot. I recently went to the titanic exhibition in melbourne and have been to the first one in two thousand and ten and a lot of what I know was verified through the exhibitions.
@@liatmarmur4368 If any exhibition "verified" your drivel, then they would have been total charlatans repeating sensationalist nonsense that periodically come up with every new generation of dilettantes. Any serious Titanic researcher knows all the circumstances of the fire, there is NOTHING new to be discovered there, the fire was insignificant. Btw exactly this sensationalism concerning the fire was criticized even in the book "Titanic" written by Czech author Miloš Hubáček in 1987. At least THAT OLD is this tiresome nonsense.
@@liatmarmur4368well, the well respected AND experienced Dr. Ballard, who we would all know and after a Q&A session, completely contradicts what you have just said about the hull. And the 2012 expedition's experiments, also supports Dr. Ballard.
A bunker fire on board a steamer was not unusual, remember.Titanic was carrying 000s of tons of gassy, combustable steam coal. It would not have been a fire in the blazing flames type but the coal would have glowed orange deep inside the bunker. The design allowed for bunker fires. The ship was not compromised in any way otherwise this would have been logged and the ship turned back for Southampton.
He didn't just servive, he cheated getting on a lifeboat he wasn't told to get in a lifeboat! He a disgrace to us British as he got scared jumped in a lifeboat while woman and children died! He was the damn chairman of white star line his own staff died while he made it alive, he acted like a coward!! Please remember a movie is just that a movie!
He wasnt a coward
He allowed plenty of people in the boats.
However, his company was disgusting in how it dealt with survivors, some who were bed ridden with shock and trauma, illness in New York hospital (like two Irish girls in Third Class, what i learnt from the story of the Addergoole 14) and were bought off to not file claims.
Nonsense, he spent the whole time urging reluctant women to get into the lifboats, he was almost on verge of hysterics with anxiety to get them to safety and the collapsible boat C he jumped in was only 3/4 full and had to be lowered at that moment without any delays. So it was either Bruce Ismay or an empty seat, so he didn't take anyone's seat.
It was the stupidity of the evacuation plan that the boats were lowered from the bow of the ship towards the stern and thus most people trying to get to the boats were at the stern area of the boat deck when collapsible C had to be lowered at the bow due to water rising quicky towards the forward part of he boat deck.
It’s impossible to definitively determine how you would react when faced with a life or death situation
Yes he was a coward but would any of us have acted differently? Remember he had first hand knowledge the ship was going down.
He lies well enough to be a politician.
Lies ? U don't even know anything. Ur knowledge literally comes from the movie Titanic. Ismay was unfairly treated and somehow still is.
What specific part is a lie?
I'd also like some evidence he was lying. It may feel unfair that he survived, but that does not mean he was lying. The boat wasn't full when lowered. I'm sure that if there were people around, they would have jumped for the liferraft
@@joannebooth640 first, idk why people expect someone to die. bruce ismay was seen helping get passengers in the boat, and it was said when the boat was being lowered and there were no people on that side, so bruce got in as there was much space. it is this incident and that mis represented talk with captain where he was accused of wanting to arriving early which is not the case. any one who researched this known bruce ismay was defamed falsely, and he was actually a nice man.
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P.S. - The trials were actually on the 2nd; high winds on the 1st caused a postponement. And Ismay did NOT board at Liverpool. The TITANIC never SAW Liverpool. It was traditional for brand new White Star ships to visit Liverpool (the line's home port) and be "opened for public viewing, with the money going to seamen's charities (in fact the OLYMPIC did it the year before), but the TITANIC's completion to get her ready for sailing (the various accidents with the OLYMPIC had delayed her completion) made it impossible to visit Liverpool, and the plan was to open her up later on (perhaps before her 2nd voyage). So TITANIC went straight from Belfast to Southampton, skipping the Liverpool stop. Southampton was where Ismay and most of the passengers (save those from Cherbourg and Queenstown) boarded.