Continuing the 5000km Road Trip testing out the new Ineos Grenadier
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- We continue on our 5000km outback Australian trip in the brand new Ineos Grenadier. In this episode we finally get off the seal roads and on to the four wheel driving tracks. The roads are badly corrugated and we find ourselves in some dark places where I wonder that we may never get out. Along the way I discover I can't get fuel into the car!
Great to see you guys living like kings and enjoying life.👍
It’s a pity all of life couldn’t be so nice and simple makes for nice watching thank you
Thanks Richard, appreciate your comment, John
The high flow diesel limitation is a bit annoying but the vow diesel adaptor does a reasonable job. It fits in the narrow opening and receives high flow nozzle
Thanks for that, Yes a bit annoying and carrying an adaptor means keeping it clean from dust and away from contaminating anything with diesel....still not something that we can't manage. John
@@cannyoutdoors the VW one comes in a pretty well sealed container. Alternatively can make a container with pvc pipe and screw on ends
Thanks David I'll check out VW, the PVC pipe is also a good idea, I have a similar thing for my Jerry can nozzle . John
Well done John and Leo. The exact purpose for owning a Grenadier. Enjoy, stay safe.
Thanks Kevin, We do enjoy it and have been close friends for 50 years! Thank you for your comment, John
thats encouraging. I was really impressed with the ride on my test ride.Failrly mild corrugations but the behaviour was much better than my Toyota Fortuner
Thanks Paul, Corrugations get worse but the Grenny did a good job of it. John
Great video. Thanks for sharing and looking forward to the next episode.
Thank you, appreciate you taking the time to comment, glad you enjoyed it, John
Great video, looking forward to watching the next one.
Thanks again Edward, glad you enjoyed it. John
Nice next installment John! Sounds like the AC got a good workout and seems to have travelled well over the corrugations to date.
Yes, the air con simply worked like it should..... thankfully! I did get quite hot up there. Yep no probs with the corrugations...so far. Thanks for watching and commenting. John
Interesting. Compared with my 2009 Defender 110, the Grenadier uses more fuel, has less ground clearance, a lower payload and costs more new.
But the Grenadier is modern and seems well-built.
I think the defemder should of been the granadier 15 years ag0
No doubt the old defenders is the genesis of this car. Let's hope the Grenadiers provide us with as good a car (for the time). And time will no doubt tell. Thanks for watching and making a comment, John
Lots of cars have auto-sealing fuel caps that only accept small nozzles these days. My Ranger’s are not fitted with these and can easily be filled using the big commercial nozzles. However, every vehicle that I’ve owned with small nozzle only filling do supply a little plastic adapter tundish for filling from large nozzles or ordinary oil cans with larger plastic nozzles [as inevitably used by farmers and plant operators].
Yes my Ranger also accepted the larger nozzle. Unfortunately no adapter came with the Grenadier however I will find one to keep for emergencies. Thanks for the suggestion, John
@@cannyoutdoors The Grenadier also has the significant disadvantage of the can filling it having to be lifted to shoulder height rather than waist height, so using a tundish or even a nozzle on a jerrycan at that height is going to be a strenuous affair to say the least. Did the designers of this vehicle not have feedback from practical experienced users of rural use vehicles at all?
You're right, notice the step? John
Ive subscribed,you guys are so down to earth. When you play music it is of good quality.
Very realistic and informative videos.
Thanks.Grant 😊
Thanks so much , I really appreciate that comments. Glad you are enjoying it, John
Good to see you enjoying your trip , corrugations are murder and are far worse to drive on than rough tracks , about 40 yeaes ago We drove to cape york tip in a series 2A SWB and could not use ths developmental road unless we idled along in 3rd gear and still had trouble with the carby flooding due to the float bouncing up and down so we took the old telegraph line track which was rough but the old Landy just ate the kilometers . A bit disapointing about the fuel filler but I have heard that there is an adaptor either available or soon to be available , you would think with all of the testing done in Oz that somebody would have picked up on that and tried to find a solution . I suspect that the reason for the narrow filler is that in the UK and probably Europe is that diesel for trucks is taxed less than car fuel and it is a requirement that hiflo nozzels cac not be used for cars
Sounds like you have a wealth of experience and some amazing adventures under your belt.Thank you for sharing. I am a little surprised more effort was not put into Australianising the Grenadier (towing etc.) as we are expected to be one of the major markets. However this is a minor grumble only. Really appreciate your interest and comments, John
Looks like your having a good adventure thanks to the trust worthy Ineos Grenadier.
Yes Mark great fun and the Grenny is doing its job well, thanks for watching and commenting, John
John - you can get a hi-flow adapter. Bit messy at times, but will get you out of trouble.
Thanks for that. I haven't actually seen one yet but I will be putting one in the kit. Hopefully won't have to use it too often and it's another oily thing to carry. I appreciate your advice, John
That first place you went for fuel belongs to Tommy Prior a local legend. He has a very interesting collection of old Fords. Hope you're enjoying FNQ
Yes, I spoke with Tommy but he didn't want to go on video. He told me he is 83. Amazing collection and amazing bloke I reckon. Interesting stop probably bypassed by most as its a bit off the main track. Loved FNQ. Thanks for your interest and comment, John
Great trip! I can feel the heat from here 😅 IG looks like it’s a smooth ride 😎
Yes hot and sunny, the way I like it (as long as the air conditioner works... and it did very well). The car was great over the rough roads. Thanks for watching and commenting, John
Awesome Ep in some lovely warm weather
Hi Craig, Yes the weather was just perfect. Thanks again for taking the time to comment.Cheers John
The high flow fuel nozzle is something that I've never heard anyone mention about the Grenadier. Good to know, thank you.
Yes and it is quite a pain in rump as I have travelled around. I have a cut down funnel for emergencies but have managed (with some inconvenience) to avoid using it as yet. But in the overall scheme of things it a minor issue on a great vehicle Thank you, I really appreciate you taking the time to comment, John
@cannyoutdoors In retrospect, it may not be that big of a deal with a 90ltr fuel tank. Once the aftermarket manufacturer's start increasing capacity, then I see a problem and increased cost.
Thanks for the content, been enjoyable.
Informative content thanks John. Hopefully there will be some aftermarket longer range fuel tank options soon . 19l/100k makes Jerry cans a necessity for even relatively short trips in many outback areas.
Exactly Jeremy, I am kind of used to carrying them as I did also in my Ranger (90l tank). I am not holding out much hope for a LR tank, there doesn't seem to be much room, but who knows there are some pretty innovative people out there. Thanks for your comment John
Awesome salad lads! No reason to complicate life. Well done!
Yes Paul, burger , pickle and cold beverage... campers delight! Thanks again, John
Having experienced many miles in a Land Cruiser 100 quite heavily loaded, no matter what the corrugations, if travelling any distance I would not have less than 35psi in the tyres as an absolute minimum. Having been running at 32psi many years ago, I found that the joint between the sidewall and tread would heat up to the point that eventually the rubber would degrade in that specific area due to constant excessive flexing, causing multiple punctures and basically trashing the tyres.
It's all weight dependant....always
Thanks for sharing your experience on this. We are all learning more every day and you make a relevant point. Cheers John
Agreed, John
i live in Arizona. very hot here.i lower my rears to 25psi and fronts to 20 when towing my black series dominator. works great. been doing it for years. never lost a tire. the trailer gets aired down to 25psi as well.
@@cardp17 I’m just about ready this morning to hitch two 14ft trailers to two Ford Rangers I own, which will be loaded up to 3.5 tons gross, the triple axle enclosed trailer with 2.3 tons of cargo and the other twin axle drop sides with 2.6 tons. The ball weight will be around 350kg+/- There will be about 500kgs on the trucks as well, certainly in one of them. I would not consider going any distance with less than 35 psi in the truck’s tyres. The trailer tyres are inflated to the recommended 90psi.
These are farm trucks and trailers used on all road types but only very mild off-road with these kinds of loads. Nothing too taxing.
Even unloaded without towing I know that on metalled roads my tyres would overheat at 25psi. Been there plenty of times years ago with my Land Cruiser 100 with original Michelin tyres and replacement Toyo then back to a revised Michelin model. As they say, your mileage varies from mine but so be it.
great video John
Thanks again, glad you are enjoying them, John
John if you have a screw in fuel cap have a look at the Scrunnel hands free funnel ,have no links to the company .I have one, works a treat.
Thanks Lucy, just checked out the Scrunnel. Looks like a really good device. Australian made also. I really appreciate you alerting me to this, John
Hey John loving the videos of th e trip, and the feedback on the Grenadier, still not arrived yet 😢 from Steve near Chester England 🏴 where the Roman's once lived.
Thanks Steve, bet your tongue is hanging out now!!! John
@@cannyoutdoors yeh it was hanging out when I seen that bacon an eggs too 🤣 cheers, John.
Bloody yummy! Steve, John
Wonderful video. I am hoping to purchase one some time. How was the comfort on dirt roads? My gelandewagen is great, but it is not comfy.
Well you already have a great vehicle! The ride was really good over some very serious corrugations, and amazingly quiet. Thank you for your interest and comment, John
Fuel use not too bad given a Patrol TD42 and TB48 would be in the mid to high 20s, as would a Cruiser, towing you're weight. Hell, a bog standard GU Patrol TB48s is lucky to get 19 around town. Daughters have them, and are poorer for the experience. Good vid!
Thanks Eric, Yes not an aerodynamic masterpiece, but a hell of a lot of fun. The fuel consumption did get a little better as we went along, thanks for your interest,John
Areopreas are the bomb hey! You need to get yourself a hand grinder so you have freshpy ground beans! Porlex mini 2 is the model ive got and theyre brilliant - compact and easy to use and i enjoy the little qorkout wvery morning especially when camping 👍
Funny I was thinking the same thing. Great video, keep them coming.
Just checked out the Porlex, looks great I will be ordering one for the van. I also enjoy the coffer making ritual and grind my beans at home. For some unknown reason I didn't think to take a portable grinder, so thank you for the suggestion. You may see a Portex pop up in future videos. John
Thanks so much Dean, appreciate you watching and making a comment, John
Maybe a stupid question but do you have to do a croc watch with regard to the creek?
Not on that creek we were not in a crocodile area......well that's what I am telling myself!!! Mmmm! Certainly further along we had to be careful. Not a stupid question at all !!! Thanks for commenting, John (still in one piece)
DRY as a chip.... again thanks, John... I am now on the lookout for a VW dealer with the required bits.
That's, great, thanks again for your interest, John
I am in SA on a last trip with the old Freelander II; my Grenadier was delayed but due next ship.
The little Landrover still surprises me. It is consistently 7.2 litres of diesel to the 100 - that part has been significant... The electronics of our other VWs and the Freelander key's quirkiness! The Grenadier is a new direction for us... It's simple, as I don't need the extra fluffy bits... It's gratifying IG owners happily share their learning process for us all.
Don't know much about the Freelander except they were born in a time when LR was making great vehicles ( well they still are but bit different). I am enjoying mine more every day , hope yours arrives soon, John
Thanks for sharing
Thank you for watching, John
That road is a damn highway compared to my first trip to Chillagoe in 1977 in a CJ5 and a Honda 250 on the back!
Great trip and lovely area!
Hi Tony, I bet the 77 trip was an adventure! The road was actually good in many respects. The surface was pretty rough in parts an the local ranger at Chillegoe said it can change (deteriorate) very quickly depending on the weather. I think the width of the road is considering the road train traffic that uses it. Do you still have the Jeep by any chance?? Thanks for your commenting, John
@@cannyoutdoors Yep a bit of rain in that country and watch out! 45c in summer and summer wet sometimes.
No it was when we were in senior and a mates elder brother owned the CJ5 who was a mad adventurer took 3 of us up caving.
He is now 70 and has 3 long base LandRovers and I have a Dec20 LC200. Love the Landys and the I did but not game.. ✅😜
Sounds like you guys have some good vehicles. Mmmm some jokes spring to mind about needing 3 Landys.... but I wouldn't be thinking that of course!!😂😂😂 John
how’s life?, thanks. professional trip!see ya~ ))
Thanks for watching and commenting, John
What about the crocodiles, mate?
Yep, we had to be careful that's for sure!, Thanks for the comment, John
I see you've adopted for the standard arse-end sag toyota land-cruiser look eh?
Comes with age....or do you mean the car! Ha ha.! Thanks I appreciate your comments, John
dirt is right, Au is the most boring country
I live here, I have a d4 254 hp 600 nm torque and a 1800 atm van, yet, I am loathe to travel, all ya do is chuck diesel in daily which cost an arm and a leg, drive all day see the same ole same same ole
I am a lover of nature, BUT!!
hell, I'll take Europe any day
Certainly Europe has shorter travel distances and amazing thing to see, I also love visiting there. Thanks for your comment, John
Na, ... Too much selfie, ...
You're probably right, Cheers John