EFE/Kernow Southern Railway CC1/Booster: BRAND NEW | Unboxing, Fix & Running Review
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Southern Railway's electric Booster locos! Dive into the world of EFE's new Hornby CC1/Booster locomotive with Model Railways Unlimited! Remember those Class 71 videos? Buckle up for its lesser-known ancestor, the all-new Class 70.
These technically amazing locomotives mastered express passenger duties, hauled heavy freight with ease, and could even venture beyond the electrified lines. Join us as we unbox this stun-ning model, give it a thorough close-up examination, and tackle a running issue head-on (don't worry, we fix it!).
But that's not all! Learn how to fit the pickup shoes like a pro, pick up some expert tips and tricks, and witness the CC1/Booster roaring to life on the rails. Part 2 dives deep into the fascinating his-tory of these real-life beasts, but for now, let's get this electric masterpiece pulling a train in style!
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It is really sad to hear that Hatton's Model Railways is closing down this year and everyone will miss Hatton's dearly Mike. I also will wish the employees from Hatton's all the best.
Indeed, hope someone buys into them maybe
Hi there Mike. Well , you’ve said it before, and most of us agree, that if you spend a lot of money on a model, it should run perfectly. However, this is a wonderful electric loco. Your review has swayed me to maybe part with some of my hard earned and keep my Hornby Class 71 company! Take care and all the best for 2024😃
Many thanks, just check it over well, note carefully if all wheels touch the railhead. Thanks for the kind words and the very best for 24
Thanks for the hints and tips you don't really expect this on a new loco though. Great video by the way Mike never in a million years did I expect anyone to produce a model of this particular electric loco so hats off to Graham Muspratt for getting this to market. Really looking forward to mine arriving from Rails hopefully without any problems ! All the best, Stewart
PS Still in shock from the Hattons closure !
Hi, I'm kinda coming to expect it, my luck is awful lol thanks best of luck with yours it will look great in your railway
Excellent video, as always. Annoying when you have to work on a new locomotive, but you had it going beautifully. Very glad to see this model as photographs of CC1 were in every boy's book of trains when I was young. Thank you.
Thanks Roderick glad you enjoyed it. Yes a bit of a pain but I guess I got to know her better lol
Getting a bit jaded with all these locos not doing what they are supposed too out of the box, I am in Ireland and order these from the UK, If I have to send these back then it becomes a right pain in the hole. Well done for sorting it out too, I would of done the same thing. I have the black one on the way.
Good luck with yours, let me know
Nice model and review. Mine had the 4 body screws halfway out. Tightened them and upto now no other problems, which you should expect from a new loco costing £150 +.
Omg, weird isn't it. Thanks for watching
These look like lovely models Mike, mine arrived today but not had chance to run them yet. It's a shame about the issues, I could tell you were a bit disappointed, but it's very helpful to know what to look out for. Enjoyed your review. All the best, Chris.
Many thanks Chris. Yes I'd been like a kid at Christmas waiting for it and I was honestly gutted as the issues appeared
Most informative - thank you! ⚡
Looks like I now need to strip my 20002 down sooner rather than later. During a running session with a friend's malachite CC1 we found it had a number of low hanging sanding pipes that just needed quickly adjusting.
All five suffer from excessive lateral play on their axles and I'll be seeking to correct this with spacing washers.
Not tried fitting the shoes - need to look at the shoe clearances first.
On a positive note the haulage capacity is fine and they certainly copes well with eight bogies (yet to try more).
Yet to try changing the disc headcodes....
In summation a lovely model that has my thumbs up! 👍
Thanks, wonderful model that just needs a bit of refinement
Have to admit I was on the fence buying one of these. But I did and I don’t regret my decision. It’s a great loco and looks great in malachite green.
Next model I’m looking forward to is the Leader class model
Well done, any running issues
Been watching the Leader model... it isn't great... if you want something that looks like Leader fine it will be great for you... but if your looking for a very good model it ain't.. wheels are wrong for a start... So I have no hope for it.
Oh no, that's poor
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimited myself and and the gent who did the research tried to help assist but nop... Only thing they have changed is the cab window... Put rivets where they shouldn't be... I so wanted one but regret it, I've been watching the factory producing it... It's not their fault it's Kr lack of research.
Fell is another prime example... Numbers not in the right place one side is totally incorrect.
@@bluebellModelrailway Out of curiosity, How are the wheels wrong? I thought they uses Firth Brown wheels on the Leader?
I was expecting this review coming from you Mike 😉 - interesting model at the price point
Thanks, yes it's wonderful
I'd not been aware of the existence of these locos until I saw one for sale on a retailer's website, and therefore absolutely nothing about their history until I watched you excellent video!
I guess this is a very, very early example of a hybrid/bi-modal loco?
Very nice tribute to your erstwhile friend and colleague.
As for the model, well I'd have immediately sent it back to the retailer, but I understand why you didn't, as it provided some very good infortainment, and you had the skills to remedy the problem.
Thanks very much. I start filming the main history and running video tomorrow
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimited Looking forward to it.
It's up
My BR green version arrived yesterday. While fitting the pick up shoes noticed the axles have a lot of sideways movement obviously for curves. Sounds like you've got a wheel just touching. Also because of the sideways movement a couple of the pick ups(which have to move a lot) weren't contacting at times and needed adjusting.
While adjusting noticed the slight lack of lubricant. After bearings(nice) and gears done decided to peek inside and there was the PCB screw sticking up! Lightly lubed up and the screw went down eventually. Cab lights seem brighter on mine more cool white than your warm white. 🤔
After all that turns out to be a really quiet, powerful and smooth runner.
Had to have one because I saw the real 20002 at Norwood Junction many years ago.
Sounds good, I'm still checking mine over
First and foremost, happy new year Mike! I know it’s a bit late, but sincerely meant. Great video with a bit of history, analysis of the all too common problems and the happy ending. Just a personal thing though I think the model looks stunning, and I hope it gives you years of good service. Really love your workbench, trouble shooting videos! All the best for 2024!
Thanks very much most kind. Same back to you. And I'm delighted you are enjoying my videos
Excellent video. I have just bought one of the booster locos and it's good to know what to expect. Love all your videos. Keep up the good work!
Aww cheers Stuart most kind of you
The original grey version is down to £99 at Rails currently. Couldn't resist at that price and grabbed one
Nice one, well done 👍✅
Great video Mike
Looking forward more just like them
Thanks Mark
Hi.
May I suggest you check the wheel gauging as it sounds to me as though the flanges are rubbing on the rails on the 2nd radius curves.
Paul. 👍❤
Thanks for the tip! All fine, I've probably found the reason for the scraping noise and if it works I'll offer it in an upcoming video
Always look forward to a new video from yourself. I had a feeling you wouldnt hang about in buying one of these.
On the whole i think Graham Muspratt has done well in getting one of these to the market, especially being such a niche product. Shame about the couple of issue you have had, hopefully not a problem across the board. Class 73/33s in my part of the world so probably not for me.
All we need now is a Class 74, are you listening Graham
Thanks very much indeed 😊 yes I'm well pleased. Agreed about the 74
A nice looking locomotive. Sorry that you had a disappointing start with this new loco, it takes the edge off the occasion somewhat. Good that you managed to correct the niggles along the way, hope the running in continues to improve and thanks for your detailed explanation. Looking forward to the history, cheers.
Thanks very much. Got a few more fixes lined up, will put them up separately I think
Absolutely wonderful prototype captured in model form, as a DC electric traction fan, the Southern electrified lines always interested me, because of how much they remind me of the interurban railroads we had stateside - Air whistles, intermittent air compressor chug, and so on. Personally, I like the looks of these more than the 71s, sort of matching with the EMUs and the traditional boxcab format.
Shame that the model had serviced right out of the box. I've had similar issue with Bachmann HO diesels, the grease they use seems to be the wrong sort for models. And while it's very finescale, that pantograph would make me kind of anxious.
Though the prototype is obscure, it seems a great model to make ready-to-run since the real loco hauled so many varied trains, and it doesn't look out of place on layouts with no catenary.
Absolutely agree with you, wonderful model and prototype. In reality they should have made more and kept them in service
Taking one for the team as ever Mike, excellent review, look forward to the follow up and well done for getting the thing going well.
Not a bad looker though, always disappointing to get bad workmanship 👋🏻
Lol thanks, today's close look shows one wheel on one bogie never touches the rail head but as the same time I think I've found an answer to the annoying scraping sound on curves.
Intriguing 👍
@@Shelfandtabletoplayouts00gauge thanks 👍
The scraping noise on the tight curves sounded like one of the carden shafts was chafing on something.
Could well be, I'm opening her tomorrow to check and see about those lights. Cheers for watching
great video!
Most kind thanks 🙏
hello Mike, i didn't expect there to be any problems, where is quality control ? i have just got one in black,not out the box yet, i must be one of the few who remember these engines in 1962 down in Newhaven , i was only seven, also saw 20003, any way great video, can't wait till the next.
Hi Peter, wow did you get any photos or recordings? Lol thanks very much for all the support
Just thought you'd might like to know that Kernow Model Centre has Dapol class 73s in various liveries on sale at £85...
Omg stop 😆
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimited You know you want one....!
@@stephendavies6949 lol
Hi mike
I hope you are well
What a shame about the issues you had.
Put it does look a great model
Kernow have done good on it
Great video
Keep safe ARP
Thanks Adi, yeah my heart sank but oh well she seems good now
That`s a nice loco , things will improve with a few hours running in ,,i`d just cut that pcb board screw down by a couple of mills ,,, and subscribed 👍👍
Welcome to the channel. Thanks. Taken a close look today and think I can easily solve the scraping noise on curves however have discovered one wheel of one bogie is never in contact with the rail
I plan on picking up a BR blue example at a later date once the initial troubleshooting and issues are well known; I’ll be putting it into a neverwazza TOPS identity … 70 002, something like that. It’s nice to wonder about what would’ve been, had these prototypes survived that long.
When these were announced and now based on the issues, I assume Heljan is the OEM similar to the EFE Hymeks and 58s?
Sounds good and yes they should have kept them.
Excellent video. Mine is sitting on a table until Friday when I will have time to have a play. Hopefully if I have any issues I should already have the answers now. I had to order that green, an electric loco on a freight has no business looking that smart! I ordered from Derails and there is a little card saying tested and by whom so hopefully it should be good. I found it quite poetic really about the "its alright, it does the job" review. Very similar to the real locomotives. Just doing their job faithfully without the glamour. The question is... If they release CC2 in malachite with the southern electric flashes will you be buying? Now get a driver in that cab! Or would it be motorman? Hmmm... come to think of it would a motor man in the 40's be trained from a steam crew that could drive either, or a dedicated pool of motormen? I'm sure all will be revealed in part 2 :)
Aha, sounds like your one will be fine. Yes motor men were a separate link, the crews on the Boosters were mixed traction. They were far more successful than that other review makes them look
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimited Fair enough. My area is the south east so my knowledge of electric locomotives starts with the 71. A pity as I bet it would have looked brilliant on the golden arrow. Looks like I will be educated a little by part 2
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I think they look lovely. I hve noticed when running dc when the speed is turned up the cab lights turn off does this happen to yours
Thanks I'll try and get back to you
This is potential junk when you consider the price. One wonders how the loco will survive after a few years too.
I know what you mean
Thanks for making the film. I wonder if you have green coaches that can match the green? Southern greens seem so subtlety varied to me.
Thanks, I've got some to put with it but have to admit I'm not sure if they are right
Why oh why time after time pay all that money and it doesn't run properly straight from the box? It's the least to expect surely!
You'd think so lol seems like everyone else is fine, just me as usual 🤣
The scraping noise seemed to cease when moving to radius 3. Is this an indication of it's minimum radius or something out of tolerance? A case of nearly there but not quite. Thanks Mike.
Hi yes I think you are right, I'm gonna check her tomorrow, too tired tonight lol
As a footnote...I just saw roads & rails video and over the row from the dcc sound you can hear the scrape on his 2nd radius curves!!! (just)
@@hotdogpilot6319 Most interesting.
@@hotdogpilot6319 blimey I just went and looked. That's not how a booster sounded not at all
The EFE range always seems like a bit of a lottery both as far as detail and build quality are concerned.
Quality control on these things seems non-existent.
Glad your issue was easily sorted.
Thanks, yes I'm still not sure what EFE is all about, is it just Bachmann but low quality
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimited EFE are a sub brand, they don't use the same factory in China. but agree some quality issues could be resolved.
@@bluebellModelrailway oh that's interesting. But it still tarnishes Bachmann's name
I love southern but I don’t think I’ll be getting one these , sorry Mike
No, why not?
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimited too pricey and seeing yours didn’t exactly float my boat , now if you know where I could acquire a Hampshire 2 car thumper as seen at the watercress line 😊👌👌
Ah yes they are nice
Lovely loco was going to get one but build quality put me off so I’ll save my money thanks mate sad though
I'd give it a go, mine has been great this evening and I'm even more impressed
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimited hehe ok you’ve convinced me 😊👍🏻
Very best of luck
That’s shocking qc. Come on Bachmann, accurscale, Hornby sort out your qc. We pay big prices for these locos we should not repairing them or sending them back. They should run straight out of the box. No excuses. That’s my rant over nice model by the way
Fully agree. They are all taking the piss, continental modellers must think we are soft.
Excellent video. What a good looking loco but the quality control on the assembly line must be atrocious to allow a model with these defects through. Seems no testing was done at all. Disappointing for such an expensive product. I'd be extremely annoyed if it was me purchasing this and subsequently having to return it.
Yeah I know exactly what you mean
Seems to be luck of the draw with Accurascale, Hattons, Rapido, EFE and others putting out models that have had problems.
@@Georgeconna32 very much considering cancelling all my future orders
Really disappointed with EFE on that. For the price you’d think the internal workings would be assembled properly. A true hodge-podge of shoddy craftsmanship.
Can't disagree at all
I’d have sent that back. It’s really not good enough with the hysterically under engineered PCB and poorly tapped screw holes. I wouldn’t care to feel I was encouraging them. They need to do better than that.
A very dignified and respectful acknowledgement of the sad end of Hattons. Very unlike another rather famous model railway CZcamsr who was basically gloating. I’m afraid my respect for him disappeared like a sorbet under an acetylene torch.
Thanks, yes I know what you mean. I don't think manufacturers care and I must admit EFE are going to be crossed of my list. Oh that's shameful another CZcamsr gloating about Hattons, maybe they've never been made redundant
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimited I'm not sure if they care. It'd be interesting to speak to some of them candidly about how they feel about quality issues. Personally, I always feel like Bachmann models are generally just a bit better made than others. But even then, not perfect.
What I do know is that I got a very, very generous present of a Piko BR78, and the quality is absolutely amazing. It makes me swither a little about perhaps going full continental. I also have a quite old Marklin BR78 which again absolutely embarrasses contemporary Hornbys.
That's been my experience too. Think we are being fleeced
I haven't seen any Hatton gloating, who is the miscreant?
@@1maico1 The person who subsequently deleted the comment after I pointed out that it was thoughtless and unkind in the extreme is Hornby Magazine’s CZcamsr of the year.
I voted for him. I shan’t be doing so next year, that’s for sure.
Chine?
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Don't these manufacturers test-run their locos before sending them out? One doesn't expect such poor quality control on a loco that costs, what, £200 - odd quid? EFE/Bachman are extracting the Michael!
It is bad and from reading on RMweb there seems to be a lot of problems. Bachmann have damaged their reputation I think
Oh good god
Yep
£158 at kernow model rail centre
Yep
Quality control seems none existent these days. When you have to pay the crazy high prices everything should be right straight out of the box. £200ish for this model does not sound so bad really for something brand new but still not acceptable to me you get a model that has so many faults, gearbox, screw hole not tapped, and they did not notice on the assembly line, sounds like an out of gauge wheel rubbing on the body on curves and now you find a wheel is not on the track that's terrible for one model and the kind of thing that is putting me off buying much more. I have a huge amount of stock and am turning more to building kits and planning a new layout which will mean spending on scenic things rather than stock. The model shop will still get my money but not on what I used to spend most of it on. It's sad about Hattons but I can see the hobby is in decline you hardly see any young at model shows now and in the shop it is rare anyone young buys anything now, A few years ago there were a few regulars in there most weeks, I guess like a lot they are now into virtual railways rather than paying a fortune and spending hours building a physical layout.
I tend to agree with all you said there
This is the problem with this hobby you pay all this money and it doesn’t work correctly and I am sad to say please do not take this the wrong way you as a CZcamsr and a model train enthusiast are part of the problem right now you are going to fix or attempt to fix their problem. What you should be doing is sending this model straight back if you brought this item and it was a brand-new TV and not a model train and it did not work correctly. Would you take the back off the TV, no you be straight back to the shop where you bought it from, but for some reason everybody seems to think it’s acceptable and then they film it on CZcams making even more acceptable to take to pieces are brand-new model which cost hundreds of pounds you should be sending it straight back it’s a simple simple as that it’s the only way the manufacturers will realise that the crappy quality and quality control is not acceptable
Rob I totally agree with you, however I think I've got a reasonably good one given what I'm reading today. The problem with sending it back of course is even if I can get another one it may be far worse. It's no good Bachmann trying to hide behind EFE we all know it's then but the very real issue is manufacturers don't respect us, they want to wake up because giants can fall just look at Hattons.
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimited I understand your comment. I agree with most of it, but the part where you say if you send it back what about if you can’t get another one they have a legal obligation. They’ve got your money if you brought it new from a shop whether it via Internet cell or from an actual physical shop they’ve got your money they have a legal obligation by law to fix it as they can’t fix it, give you a different one and if the hobby is that bad that people are prepared to accept substandard equipment in this hobby because they’re frightened in case they may lose out on a model that’s where the manufactures have got you over a barrel literally they know you’re not gonna bitch and complain too much because it’s a so-called limited run model maybe and people will accept it in whatever condition it comes because they don’t wanna send it back in case they miss out on having one. Can you imagine doing that with any other item you buy that being said keep up the great work. Love your channel love the content
@@Rob1972Gem This is the problem. If that TV you bought was a limited issue of 500 you would want a full refund and choose another, with a limited run of locomotive we want that model not a refund. I have been very satisfied with Hattons for many years but my class 66 had a twisted chassis so I had no real option but to send it back. They did send me a replacement but that had loose bits in the box that had fallen off and I am sure it had been retuned before because it was in a None Sound box, so should I send it back or repair it myself, I repaired it myself from fear of getting one in worse condition or nothing at all.
Pot luck isn't it
I don't do stinky diesels, but it's good when you can restore a model to full working order. If you're not yet aware, Hattons are closing down. I feel like I've lost part of our model railway family. When I'm upset like this, diesels don't cheer me up. Steam engines normally do the trick.
He did just mention Hattons in the first minute of the video, I don't think you've been watching
Indeed 👍
It's not a diesel and I said in the video Hattons was closing.
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimited Beg your pardon. I just wanted to get to the goods train part.
Again