Emaan Union Rips Apart Spineless Stance on Finality of the Prophethood.
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الله آپ کی عمر میں برکت دے قیصر بھائی عامر بھائی علینہ بہن اور دوسرے بھائی ۔ الله کی آپ پر کروڑوں رحمتیں نازل ہوں ۔ آپ لوگوں کی ہدایت کا سبب بن رہے ہیں ۔ لوگوں کو بھٹکنے سے بچانے کا سبب بن رہے ہیں ۔ الله سے آپ سب کیلئے دنیا و آخرت میں عافیت کا طلب گار ہوں ۔ اور جنت میں اعلی مقام کا متمنی ہوں آپ سب کیلئے ۔ ❤❤❤❤
Qaisar ahmed Raja is becoming my favourite debater in Pakistan ,salute to his hard work and compassion for religion and his vision of establishing islamic republic of Pakistan in true sense, Alhamdolillah
میں گواہی دیتا ہوں کے حضرت محمد صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم اللہ کے آخری اور سچے رسول ھیں ،،، ختم نبوّت زندہ باد ،،، قیصر راجہ زندہ باد ❤❤❤❤
Beshak
Beshak
میں گواہی دیتا ہوں کہ اللہ تعالی کے سوا کوئی عبادت کے لائق نہیں اور محمد صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم اللہ تعالی کے اخری رسول ہیں
Excellently defended against this big fitna of Ghandi 👍👍👍
It's like saying you are committing a crime but you are not a criminal.
Yes, because you need to be a judge to punish a criminal. He is not accepting your charges against him.
U need to have an authority to declare someone Kafir. Allah has this authority not human being
C'mon bro. It is a basic logic. Once a court/law of the land has declared someone criminal/kafir, then what do you say about such a person? Obviously we deemed such a person kafir/criminal. Our law of the land declares Qadianis to be kafir. Hence, we can call them kafir..
@@UmerulFahad br, in US, gay marriage is accepted, i still do not recognize it as accepted. If US government ask to ‘say it they are a couple’ i would say no i do not agree.
I hope u get my point
@@atifbaig9944yeah same by ur logic if quraan and hadith is saying that after Mohammed no prophet will came so how can the ghamidi is accepting MIRZA, u r following the quraan rules one side, and another side ghamidi rules
@@thebakchodengineer qasir bhai is a liar. Ghamidi never accepted Mirza.
Yes you are right what is in Quran that what we need to teach them. Calling them kafir is not gonna help.
لا اله الا الله محمد الرسول الله... قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم: انا خاتم انبيين لا نبى بعدي...
ختم نبوت زندہ آباد ❤
Good to see your effort as a Muslim
this Clearance of stance is needed for many people like me
I am proud of you man
@Qaierahmadraja
The argument this Ghamidist has is that Ghamidi saahib did not call Ahmedi as non muslim and did not call them Muslim either.
However what he's missing is that in "response" to a question like "Do you consider them Muslims?" situation becomes different. In response to such a question if a person says that I cannot call them non muslims then the answer automatically becomes "Yes" and that they are muslims. Unless it is explicitly said "I don't know", the answer will be considered a "Yes", if it is not "No".
For example if I'm asked, "Are you fat?" and I say "I'm not slim" and then full stop, then the answer becomes "Yes I'm fat". However if the answer is something other than yes or no, then I'm supposed to mention it explicitly, for example "I'm athletic" or "I don't know".
If none of these statements are made explicitly then the answer will be considered as either "Yes" or "No" for any question which starts with "Are you.." or "Do you.."
What Ghamidi saahib did is tried to "compromise" in answering the question but he needs to understand that such compromise becomes misleading for the audience. So there's a chance that Ghamidi saahib did not deliberately want to mislead people but Qaiser saahib is also right that such things must not be taken non seriously by someone who comes on stage as an expert. Humans make errors and it's also a responsibility to correct what has been identified as wrong.
Assalamualaykum wa Rahmatullah he wa barkatu Qaiser Ahmed Raja Sahab Allah aapko lambi umur ata farmaye Aameen
Last 15 seconds qasir bhai Jan rocked❤❤❤
Ghandisim shocked😂😂😂
Amir haq bhai zinda bad
یار سچی میں فضلوا و اضلوا حدیث کا مطلب سمجھ آیا اس بھائی کی گفتگو سن کر ، مضحکہ خیز ہے
قیصر بھائی زندہ باد
Love you iman union
From India 🇮🇳
Always rocked😂❤Alhamdulillah….Stay blessed
Zabardast Qaiser bhai, May Allah protect you.
I testify that Prophet Muhammad PBUH is last Messanger and Prophet of Allah.
MashaAllah Qaiser Bhai May Allah increase the Knowledge and protect you from all the evils.
Love you Iman Union ❤
قیصر بھائی کیسے کیسے نمونے جمع کیے ہوئے ہیں
"تحریف جرم ہے اور اس کو کرنے والا مجرم اور تحریف کفر لیکن کرنے والا کافر نہیں" کیا لطیفہ ہے
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Love from Kashmir ❤❤❤❤❤❤
امتیاز ڈار کشمیر کس جگہ سے ھیں آپ
Love from independent kashmeer Rawalakot ,❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️❣️
This brother just proved Mufti Tariq Masood right. Ghamidi sahab ki baatein un logon ko achi lgti hain jo seedhi baat smjhna hi nahi chahte, bewajah baat ko complicate krke smjhenge aur khush honge phir jaise koi mathematics ki research problem solve krdi ho. And then these people act like intellectuals whose intellect is beyond what normal muslims are capable of.
"In dono miyan biwi ne mujhe jana to hai, lekin main inhe maa baap nahi keh skta"
قیصر بھائی جزاک اللہ خیرا کثیرا ❤️
میرے قصبہ سرائمیر اعظمگڈھ کے عظیم ادارہ *"مدرستہ الصلاح"* کے دو اہم استاذ کے تزکرہ کو سن کر اچھا لگا
Qaisar sir you are also great ❤
آفرین قیصر احمد راجا صاحب صد آفرین❤
Kmal Sir at 5:00 😂😂
ماشاءاللہ اللہ آپ کو برکت دے قيصر صاحب
ALI MIRZA ENGINEER NE JO JEHNI MARIJ BANAE HAI YE SAB SIRF SOCIAL MEDIA PAR YA JAHELMI ACADEMY ME PAYE JATE HAI😅
Phir itna khauf kyu hai aap logo ko??? Phir 5 murder attempt karne ki zaroorat kya hai??
Yeh baat toh aapko bhi pata hai "The damage has been done"
زبردست قیصر بھائی۔۔۔۔۔۔❤❤❤ سوال ہی اسلئے کیا کہ جواب ملے۔۔۔۔👍
تاجدارے ختم نبوت زندہ آباد
"The person who is seeking the truth, one evidence will be enough for him.
A person who is upon their desires, a thousand evidences will still not be clear to him”
-Imam al-Albani
Qaiser Ahmed Raja ONE MAN ARMY 😎
Pata q Amir bhai se har koi darta hai lov u amir bhai from UAE 🇦🇪
Baatil kaisa thar thar kaampta hai uff maza agaya mashallah emaan union
4:41 - Aksar bollowood adakaar maslan Shahrukh Khan ka example ha k wo Musalman bhi khud ko kehta ha or sath manta ha bhagwan ko bhi.
@@Hitchens-k9s I dont care for this information, also, my comment doesn't deserve this information. My comment was reply to a question raised by one of the participant of this debate!
@@Hitchens-k9sislam is the fastest growing religion..u r an atheist..keep your mouth shut against islam
@mumbaiatheist2384 I am not even concerned bhai jan. I haven't come to the point where i ask you to prove your point with statistics and also the other way around. I have seen that the followers of any modern era "ism" do not come from any rationality and are totally based upon irrationality, illogical, and dishonesty. What i can see is the dilemma, which you are coming from where you compare the justice system, the basis of the financial system, women's rights, parents' rights, children's rights, etc, to the fairy tales. You guys do not have the proper agenda of your "ism," and strange irony is that nothing is absolutely wrong in "ism" where you belong. I can see that your reply will be again useless and will not be the actual answer to the actual points. Stay blessed, my brother, and ask your fellows to introduce a little logocalism in your isms, please.
Alelelelele moot peeke bhand hua pada hai kya aaja mujhse baat kar.....@@Hitchens-k9s
@@Hitchens-k9s bhai you can write your statistics all you want, but kindly make yourself available to google that athiests are decreasing worldwide, if you dont find any reference then I will give you Qaiser bhai's video as a rebuttal that will prove how you people easily twists statistics to present them as your facts which are otherwise representation of your failure
حضرت محمد رسول اللہ صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلّم کی تمام دیگر انبیاء و رُسل سے ایک امتیازی شان آپ علیہ السلام کا مقامِ ختم نبوت ہے۔ اب تاقیامت اللہ تعالیٰ کی محبت کا حصول صرف اور صرف حضور علیہ السلام کی پیروی سے نہ صرف مشروط کر دیا گیا ہے بلکہ اس کا وعدہ اور پیش گوئی بھی کر دی گئی ہے۔ یہ ہے حقیقی ختم نبوت۔ دلیل اس کی قرآن مجید کی آیت کریمہ ہے۔ کہ
قُلْ إِن كُنتُمْ تُحِبُّونَ اللَّهَ فَاتَّبِعُونِي يُحْبِبْكُمُ اللَّهُ وَيَغْفِرْ لَكُمْ ذُنُوبَكُمْ ۗ وَاللَّهُ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ (3:31)
حضور صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم تک اللہ تعالیٰ بغیر کسی گزشتہ نبی کی پیروی نبوت کا انعام عطا فرماتا تھا ۔ اب حضور اکرم صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم کی ختم نبوت کے بعد نبوت کا انعام اللہ تعالیٰ اور حضورِ اکرم صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم کی پیروی سے مشروط فرما دیا گیا ہے۔ ارشاد باری تعالیٰ ہے۔
وَمَن يُطِعِ اللَّهَ وَالرَّسُولَ فَأُولَٰئِكَ مَعَ الَّذِينَ أَنْعَمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِم مِّنَ النَّبِيِّينَ وَالصِّدِّيقِينَ وَالشُّهَدَاءِ وَالصَّالِحِينَ ۚ وَحَسُنَ أُولَٰئِكَ رَفِيقًا (4:69).
پس یہ وہ نبوت سمیت انعام ہیں جس کے حصول کی دعا ہم نماز کی ہر رکعت میں صراط الذین انعمت علیھم میں کرتے ہیں۔
شیخ ابوالحسن خرقانی نے کہا کہ میں ہی اپنے وقت کا مصطفی ہوں اور میں ہی اپنے وقت کا خدا ہوں
تذکرۃ الاولیاء
بتاؤ ان کے بارے میں کیا خیال ہے ؟
جب ہم کافر کو کافر نہیں کہہ پائیں گے ، نہ ہی حکومت، نہ ہی عدالت ، کافر کو کفر کہہ سکتی ہے تو ہم اپنی نسلوں کو کفر سے کیسے بچائیں گے جب کہ کافر کو ہمیں مسلمان کہنا پڑے گا
Exactly yeh log yahi chahete hn. Kufar Phelana.
جو اپنے آپ کو مسلمان کہیں گے ان کو مسلم کہیں گے اور جو کہے گا کہ وہ مسلمان نہیں ہے اس کو غیرمسلم۔ اب جو اپنے آپ کو مسلمان کہ کر بعض امور میں غلطی کر رہا ہے تو اس کی غلطی اس پر واضح کی جائے گی اور دوسروں کو بھی متنبہ کیا جائے گا۔ مگر اس کو کافر نہیں کہ سکتے کیونکہ وہ اپنے کو مسلمان کہتا ہے۔
@@sheralam920 acha Yani agr KL ko hinduo khud ko Muslim bolengen tw hm usko bh Muslim manegen? 🤣 Demage tmhare slip hoke gir gya h Kahi? Or Jo Allah ne khud Qur'an me Kaha h K Jo Allah uske rasool Allah ko nh mante wo kafir hn, uska Kia? Hm tmhare Jese jahil Ki baton me ake Apne Rab Ki baton ka inkar karengen ab?🙄
@@sheralam920 acha Yani agr KL ko hinduo khud ko Muslim bolengen tw hm usko bh Muslim manegen? 🤣 Demage tmhare slip hoke gir gya h Kahi? Or Jo Allah ne khud Qur'an me Kaha h K Jo Allah uske rasool Allah ko nh mante wo kafir hn, uska Kia? Hm tmhare Jese jahil Ki baton me ake Apne Rab Ki baton ka inkar karengen ab? 🙄
@@sheralam920 acha Yani agr KL ko hinduo khud ko Muslim bolengen tw hm usko bh Muslim manegen? 🤣 Demage tmhare slip hoke gir gya h Kahi? Or Jo Allah ne khud Qur'an me Kaha h K Jo Allah uske rasool Allah ko nh mante wo kafir hn, uska Kia? Hm tmhare Jese jahil Ki baton me ake Apne Rab Ki baton ka inkar karengen ab? 🙄
Eman union always rocked others shocked
Truly admirable mode of debate. The caller, although principally wrong, but was respectful.
®What should we generally mean by different types of " ism" ?
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Should everyone live by secular concepts?
No, not entirely. People can have their own religious beliefs, but the government and public sphere (like courts) should operate on secular principles.
Can someone who isn't secular live in a secular state? Yes. They can practice their religion as long as they follow the laws of the state, which are secular.
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"For this reason, the state has to think deeply about forcing each of its residents to pray
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It's little complex concept
Now the question is what should we mean by an Islamic State
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"That is why I think that the fundamental function of an Islamic state is not to force its people to pray
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"The fundamental task of an Islamic state is to adopt a system that does not inconvenience those who wish to pray
Love from Kashmir
اچھا ویسے میں نے ایک بات نوٹ کی ہے کہ عامر بھائی سے بات کرتے ہوئے سب کی ٹانگیں جو ہے نا اوپر سے اور نیچے سے دونوں طرف سے کانپتی کیوں ہیں جب بھی عامر بھائی کسی کی بات میں کوئی انٹر فیر کرتا تو پتہ نہیں نہیں نہیں میں اپ سے میں بڑا شوق ہوں اپ بڑے ہارڈ ہیں اپ یہ ہیں اپ وہ ہیں عامر بھائی سے بات کیا کرو بھائی صاحب اپ کی جلدی جواب بھی جلدی ملتے ہیں اور طبیعت بھی جلدی صاف ہوتی ہے اور فارمولا بھی سیٹ ہوتا ہے کیونکہ عامر بھائی کے پاس ایسا گھوڑا ہے جو کہیں پر بھی گھس جاتا ہے
Your efforts are appreciable 😃🙌
MashaAllah stay blessed and keep going❤
Jis ne ab Nabi honay ka dawah diya , Hazrat Muhammad sw k baa uss ki punishment qatal hay Islam mein, ,
Ab uss k followers ka Kia status ho gaa?
Wo kahan say Muslims ho Gaye ?
@@Hitchens-k9s har Islamic mein apka ya he comment hota ha. esa kyun?
زبردست
Mera ek sawal h - ? Sahih hadees h k kufar aur islam k darmiyaan farq namaaz h - toh jo namaz nahi parrta kya hun us ko kafir keh sakty hain ?
Allah hamain aap jese Neem Hakeem khatra e jan se hamesha bacha k rakhe.
Amir bhai ny do mint mein bolti band kr di
Sher e haq
Amir haq ❤
mere khyal mein ji Bhas karna ka tarika yah hai aap ek aadami ki pahle baat sune usko ful stop lagane den chahe ghalat keh raha ho lekin idhar koi baat agale ki mukmmal nahin hone deta usko ful stop to lagane dena .lekin har Koi dusre ke midsentence mein dakhal de deta hai.
Jo yah kah Rahe Hain ki hypothetical example hai voh hypothetical Nahin hai kabhi zara andruni Sindh mein jaen to aapko pata chalega ki vah deviyon ki bhi prastish kar raha hai musalman aur sath Hi Allah ki bhi bandagi ho rahi hai. Naam rakhay Hain Muhammad Krishan.
Is debate ki poori video kha mojood hai??
Ubaib bhae ny Jo akhir main logic diya ha hopefully wo us ko smjh a jay wo Kuch issi trah ki bat Sunna chahty thy
Muhammad Hassan Ilyas has explained this quite simply in TPE podcast. QAR, as usual, is twisting words just to show "mjy debate behter aati hai"
Ajye live explain kr day aakr.Caller to explain nai kr saka.Aur kya ap ko explain krnay ka HAQ hai?
@faisalmuhammad8862 I am willing to explain to him, if QAR is willing to take me live.
Sirf bhonkna ATA h tm logo ko
Subhanallah Raja SB last comment set-up call ❤
ALLAH aap ko jazaey khair de ❤
It will take 50 years for people like Qaiser sab to understand Gamdhi sabs explanation of Islam
Hahaha ok
Wo shakhs jo ap ka baap hai,Ap b mantay ho k wo ap ka walid hai,Ap ki walida mohtarma b kehti hai k yeah shakhs hi ap ka walid hai to kya ap ko is shakhs ko Baap kehnay ka haq hai?
Not possible even in 50 years
Exactly, it will take more adulteration in our Youths Minds to accept illogical and baseless logics of Ghamidi sab. We will stick with Islam while you guys can follow your Liberalism with Islamic seasonings
It will take 1000 years for ghamdi and ghamdi tapes recoders like you to learn islam.
Let's invite Hassan ilyas in next live session. I think he is enough for all of you!
کیا چُس ماری ماری ہے 😂
ختم نبوت ذندہ باد ،💪💪💪💪
Ye Banda India ka lagraha tha mere elaqe me boht se aise hujjate balega ghumrahe hain ap inhe samjha hi nhi sakte Haan jb tk wo khud samjhna na chahein.
Kya chishti rusool ka defa karne wale kafir hain? Lekin woh khud ko musalman kehte hain. To hum kya kahen ge ( ke app ka aqeeda kufriya hai ya app kafir hai?)
And thanvu rasool ke difa karne wali ko kafir kahen ge? Lekin woh khud musalmaan kehte hain. To kya hum un ke aqeede ko kufriya kahen ge ya un ko kafir.
Ahmadis ka aqeeda kufriya hai, koi shak nahi lekin they are soft target to proove ur love for prophet))
make a video and give us the link to that video where pepole say chishti and thanve are rasool... bring real people on camera ,,,other wise run and sit in ur Engineer mirza goudi.
The crux of Ghamidi sahab's stance is that if a person claims to be a muslim and gives logic of his argument, we don't have any jurisdiction to label him as non muslim because we have no means to measure his intention that is he in some fallacy or doing it deliberately. In this way, many of the other groups are going to be labelled as non muslims in one way or other, and specially sufis, whose concepts of Khatam e Nabuwat are very similar to Ahmadis, replacing the concepts with softer terminologies only. So, we don't have any jurisdiction to label anyone as non muslim as every single individual perceives his or her opinion as true, so the margin of human error must be kept in mind for ourselves also. Only what we can do is to point out their mistake. Ahmadis believe in Quran. They do believe in Prophet Muhammad SAW. Ok their concept of Khatam e Nabuwat is wrong according to us, but we can educate them. I don't see any point in insisting that they should be labelled as non Muslims. And that reference to Muslima Bin Qazaab, as per Ghamidi sab's views, anyone on whom Ihtmam e Hujjat is done, is treated differently from others. For this, you need to check his views on the concept of Itmam e Hujjat. He explained it in every detail. After that, you have every right to disagree...
They will never listen. They are bore and doing this stuff.
Educate tw tm TB krogena JB tmh unhe Galat manoge. Or JB tm Galat manne ka right nh rakhte. Tw Jese educate kroge.
Logic is Quran called Christians belief polytheistic (shirkiya) but didn’t call them polytheist(Mushrik)!
Coz mushrikeen or christians ma frq hy. Mushrik Allah k sath or devi devta manty hy jbk christians gulu kr chuky hy Allah hi k deen ma gulo kr gye is k natijy ma unhn ny Allah k pegambr ko uska beta mana or unhy hi Allah man lia. Difference hy
That's such a lame thing to say😂 expect some better arguments from ghamdi students ,your theories are so absurd and pathetic😂
So both are Kafirs or not?
@@humbly_valueable Yea, their shirk is of a different type than polytheists of Mecca but for us both are shirk, and the committer should be mushrik.
Another example, Wahdat ul Wojood is a nasty shirk, but Barelvi and Deobandi are Muslims.
@@shamiawan5500 The main argument is kufr is a state of heart and we can't give a verdict on someone's state of heart only God can!
We can say Ahmedias are at a huge mistake(blunder) in the matter of khatm e nabuwat!
Amir haq is very knowledgeable..MashaAllah
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Amir har waqt larai k mood mai hota hai thats not always right. Qaiser sab you know debating please teach these amateurs
21:27 qaisar bhai what a shot ❤
this person really wrote ghamidism? when ghamidi sahab himself said "har ism se allah ki panah mangni chahiye, jab koi bhi ideology ism ki soorat ikhtiyar kar leti hai to wo allah se panah mange layak ban jaati hai".
Qaisar bhai ap ghamidi sb k samny bethy bht khushi hogi
Awaz e Haq great man.... Love you 💕
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Love from kashmir The Qaisar bhai
Great tean emman union
It's shocking how ignorant Qaiser and Co are. The guy is asking for a simple thing, to show him the right proscribed in Quran and Sunnah to declare someone non Muslim.
His question is not relevant
@@truthfulbeing7268 why?
@@ykn08001 His argument is weak; although he acknowledges that they are outside the fold of Islam according to the Quran, he insists that we cannot label them as kaafirs. However, anyone who commits rape is a rapist, plain and simple. No one is suggesting that we take matters into our own hands; that responsibility lies with the government. Ideally, individuals or groups like this should be boycotted immediately, as they have the potential to lead others astray.
@truthfulbeing7268 a person who commits rape is a rapist, and the courts are the authorities that declare him a rapist. You and I can't declare anyone a rapist, even if we see them commit rape.
Do the courts have the authority to declare someone a kaafir? Do the governments/state/parliament have the authority to declare someone kafir? Where do they derive this authority from?
@truthfulbeing7268 anyone who commits rape is a rapist, but who will determine if they have committed rape? It's the courts, they have the jurisdiction.
Can you show me if anyone has the jurisdiction to declare anyone kaafir, from quran?
qaiser bhai the great
Eman uonion sari team kmal hy.. But Amir Haq bhai jub atay hain باطل ko koi bat nhi ati 😂
Ghamidi Sb ke bhi saamne baith jaayein kabhi.. aapas mein lage pade hain.. Hassan Illyas bhai ko hi bula lein.. Insha'Allah mil jayega jawaab..
But request only those people with basic etiquettes of not using roadside i.e bazaaru language should sit on the panel.. Qaiser Ahmad bhai should push for a QnA session with Ghamidi sb or his team.
why dont your ghamdi humble him self and say i want to come and clarify my point.... dont you have mind to think, ur supreme jahile ghamdi do not want to connect nor does his jahil hassan ilyas want to discuss this in public.... ask them and see how they run faster than shytan
@@LM10Messsi is this what Ghamidi sb taught you? I don't think so.. atleast learn from him properly if you are defending him.
Love u Eman union
Ay dilon ko pherney waly , hmary dil ko islam py qaem rakh . Qaiser sahib ap ka point valid hy . Baqi hedayat Allah ki trf sy hy .
اس پوری بحث میں جو ایک چیز بڑی کلیئر ہو گئی وہ یہ ہے کہ
جب ایک انسان اس بات پر پکا ہو جائے کہ کوا سفید ہے تو اپ اس کے سامنے کوا کالا ثابت نہیں کر سکتے چاہے باقی ساری دنیا یہ مان جائے کہ کوا کالا ہے
lol lol look at these two peopel Qaiser raja sahib and ubaid sahib who is just laughing because of some random guy come to their live questions answer show who does,t know anything about Ghamdi sahib perceptions. Qaisar sahib if you have guts just call their real students call Hasaan ilyas sahib if you want genuine discussion.
jitni stupid behas kr raha mujhe bhi hasi rahai....
Hence the proof, Ghamidism is Dheetism.
What Islahi / Farahi wrote is totally out of context. The person explaining Ghamidi has so much clarity
What a irony, Emman Union is lead by QAR who himself has said that He has the souls of Prophet Muhammad S.A W Nazubbbillah.
Where is his nurse, who let him out?
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Zakat lena state ka haq he ye usko khuda ne diya he
Agar koi inkar kare to usko forcefully surrender karwana ye state ka haq he
Rahi bat jazeeratul me itmame hujjat ke bad non muslims ke permanent rahne ki to quran me clear he esa possible nahi he
Itmame hujjat ka qanoon kese nafiz hota he details me padhna chahiye
اور پڑھیں گے تو یہ لوگ کبھی بھی نہیں۔
Well done Atif sir, you explained ghamidi saab side really well. Every one was speechless. Its funny how Amir bhai was trying to fit his formula but persistantly failed.
Only thing funny is your stupid logic!
The Guy asked to present proof that anyone after Muhammad (pbuh) was labelled Kafir.
Then can you bring a Proof that any person committing Zina was called Zani?
Stop being a Blind follower and stand with what's True. Indeed we will be answerable to Allah for our Actions
Why dont you guys do a call video or podcast with hassan ilyas?!?
4:25 Bohut saare musalmaan khudko muslim kehte hai saara aqeedah theek hai Allah ko maante hai etc. lekin phir murdon se maangte hai, gairullah se maangte hai and ye koi chupi baat nahi, na ek individual ki, poore firqon ki hai, unke aalimon ne isse kitaabo mai defend kiya hai and unko dawat dene k baad bhi samjaane k baad bhi woh nahi maante toh woh mushrik kyun nahi? Ya usse bade daawe kabhi karte hai k nauzubillah (mai woh batana nahi chahta) toh kafir kyun nahi?
Aur ek problem ye aajati hai k takfir kon karega and kiske according kaafir har ek firqa ek doosre k mutaabiq kaafir hai.
koi amal kisi ko kafir kardeta hai ye general bat hai, jin baton ka fesla Allah akhrat main karega or konsay rules pe karega vo bata diye gaye hain lekin kuch beliefs bilkul clear hain, jo bata diye gaye hain ke jab tak vo beliefs nahi adopt kiye jatay, koi muslim ho hi nahi sakta, Kalma aesa hi 1 belief hai jab tak ap isy maanengy nahi tb tak nahi muslim hongy, jisny khud kehdia ke mirza ko Nabi maanty hain vo kaafir hai jisny kaha Hum Allah k Nabi ko Akhri maanty hain ab privately vo jo karty hain Allah ne us pe fesla karna hai,
@@Shreaadedaa you didn’t answer my question.
@@SkepticalScribe3940at least Baki sb log kalma thik parhte hn. Isse wo Islam K daire me enter hojate hn. But agr koi bh shirk kare. Tw Allah ne saf Kaha h aese Halat me Marne WALA Kabhi maf NH hoga. Tw wo kafir hi Hai. Or hm unko Bolte bh hn.
@@Universe30243 Toh jo ye majority mai log subcontinent mai dargaahon pe jaate hai and shirk karte hai sab kaafir/mushrik hai?
Toh lagao inpe bhi qadiyanion ki tarah rules.
@@SkepticalScribe3940 Han wo sb kafir hn, JB tk wo Toba na krle. but wo Allah or Muhammad peace and blessings be upon him pr Iman late hn. Or wo log tableg nh KR sakte hn. Tableegi jamat hi only tableegi krti Hai. While qadiyani kalma tk NH mante na hi Qur'an. Unka APNA Qur'an Hai. Or hmne unko nh roka. Jake kare tableegi, khud ko kafir bolke jis religion Ka name rakhna h Rakho. Hmara religion ka name nh use KR sakte.
Audio nahi aa rahi😢,. Aavaz gaib he😢
Jo insaan Nabi Pak ko akhri nabi nhi manta wohi kaafir hay. Mirza b NaoozBillah Nabi hay aur kehta hay k wo Muslim hay???????
Please don’t manipulate things
Why audio is off of this video
Awaz Nahi arahi
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Aside from the argumentation, which was quite informative, I believe Qaiser's rhetoric does not need to be very combative and adversarial. The argumentation of the person who referred to Farahi sb, was strong but his tone was quite belittling and sarcastic. Keep your argumentation, loose your style. And tone down your video title. 'Rips apart spineless stance'. WTH? Are you debating an atheist?
yes maktaba ghamdi has nothing to do with islam.
Allah apka hami rahe, Ameen
In Australia a criminal is declared by a judge in this world. The fuqaha are the judges on Islamic matters. So if they declare qadianis to be criminals then what issue does this person have. He is confused like ghamdi sb.
Imam ahmed raza khan brelvi declared all deobandi and ahle hadith " fuqaha" kufir and vica verca. Now tell me what kind of authority they can have when they already declared each other kafir and who gives them such authority. that's the whole point.
Ghamidi don't have Gentleness towards qadianis in particular but he has a principle stance that treat everyone with the same brush.