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What are the differences in Coyote engine Generations? || Coyote Engine History
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- čas přidán 14. 07. 2021
- In today's video, JD walks you through the basic differences between the three generations of Coyote Engines, ranging from '11 to current. This specifically covers the Mustang engines and their variations.
While a lot of information is shared here, in no way is it absolutely comprehensive. For comprehensive information to go along with our video overview, we've included the links below where the information we've shared and much more can be found!
What should we cover the history of or break down details on next? Let us know in the comments!
► Ford Performance's Coyote Tech Guide:
⦿ performanceparts.ford.com/dow...
► Wikipedia - Ford Modular Engine:
⦿ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Mo...
► Motortrend - An In-depth Look at The Evolution of the Coyote Engine:
⦿ www.motortrend.com/how-to/dep...
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2015 GT Auto with 143k miles. VMP Gen2r supercharger 700whp. Love my gen 2 and I love my vmp blower.
Good job JD!
Thanks for the info
Thanks for the kind words!
Great info! Thanks for doing the work!
You're welcome Brad!
Excellent vid bro, informing
Very cool info!
Could very well be the best engine Ford has ever made
Agree 👍
@Top G Being an NA motor it very well is but to be able to take a Coyote engine and modify it to over 900 rwhp In it’s stock form is 🔥🔥!
The best American v8 produced matter of fact.
465 whp on the gen 3 coyote with just a e85 tune! Love the coyote!
Any issues? Really just tune only? Thanks in advance
@J G No issues! It's been on e85 for over 30k miles. Runs like a champ!
Gen3r and vmp return style fuel system on E85. I'm loving every bit of it. I'm Lund tuned though 😅
Thanks for rocking the VMP Performance products!
Boss 302 had better casting cylinder heads. The material was more robust and contained copper for strength. Boss heads were fully cnc'd, bigger valves, stiffer valve springs capable of 7500rpm plus, bigger cams, forged Mahle pistons, forged rods, sodium filled exhaust valves. Not sure i missed anything.
Apparently Gen 2 had the same bottom end parts!
@@fredwilliams7893 No that's incorrect. No coyote motor has ever come with forged pistons except factory supercharged gt500. The gen 2 came with forged rods but pistons still cast. Only the 2012-13 boss motors had forged mahle pistons. I know cause i have boss motor. If you want big power build motor with manley tuff rods, mahle forged pistons, billet oil pump gears and crank sprocket and and ARP head studs and 1k wheel all day and night on e85 no worries.
@@maximusvonce1381 cool! Yea I heard the gen 2 had some carry over parts from the boss engine but I guess not! 👍
@@fredwilliams7893 Forged pistons are expensive, so rarely do they come on production car unless its a track car or supercharged. Mahle forged pistons are some of the best. My gen3r built boss should make 900wheel on e85
🔥🔥🔥🔥 thanks
Is it true the 3rd gens are having Problems with the cylinder walls cracking????
Boss 302 is actually the best Coyote ever made.
Yep, forged rods and pistons. High lift cams. Cnc cylinders. I have a 13’ and this baby rips, love it!
What exactly is the meaning of “modular” engine? Nobody at my local Ford dealer could even answer my question…. The first time I ever heard of modular engine was in my 2004 Ford chassis class C motor home with the Triton V10. Now I’m lucky enough to have just purchased my 2011 Shelby GT 500!
The term "modular" came from the modularity of the tooling at the factory in which the engines were built. These engines share bore spacing, allowing for modular tooling.
I'm having some issues finding the answer to this question. When did a base GT cars with the 5.0 switch to a flat plane crankshaft? Everyone always talks about the GT350 motor getting it but not normal GT cars with the 5.0
Hey Austin. The have not, they are all cross plane traditional engines. The Voodoo is the only flat plane iteration of these engines and is only available in the GT350.
You don't really want the flat plane in a regular coyote, the gt350s vibrate themselves to pieces after a few thousand miles.
@@Prestiged_peckhad no issues whatsoever with mine being over 28K on a 2018🙁
Give me a boosted gen 2 ......
In an S197, just because they look better in my opinion. But yeah, a boosted gen 2 is capable of more power than most of us will ever need
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Do the coyote engines sound any different from one another generation to generation?
The biggest difference you'll here is from chassis to chassis, as muffler and resonator positions change from Gen 1, to Gen 2, and subsequently Gen 3. In the end, they all sound very similar.
Also worthy of noting, when Coyote swapping into a different chassis, the muffler placement makes a TON of difference in the sound of the Coyote. In the new edge swaps we've done, the mid mounted muffler makes them sound much more like a 2v or 4v 4.6L. The rear mounted mufflers on s197 and s550 chassis play a big part in how those Coyote cars sound.
The question is what would the predator engine be with the addition of direct injection system?
Not sure if we fully understand your question. As far as we're aware, there is no plans to add direct injection to the Predator engine as the DI requires different cylinder heads and may come into conflict with the supercharger's fitment.
@@VMPPerformanceTV sorry I was just wondering how much power would the predator be capable of with a dual injection setup. Ford would’ve been able to run more boost or more compression or both.
We haven't seen anything that would suggest that dual injection would be necessary or a boon to the performance of the Predator. The number it made from the factory versus what the aftermarket has been capable of making with it are two distinctly different things. There's tons of these cars making 1000+ on port injection.
Is the gen3 GDI?
Gen 3 Coyotes actually utilize both port injection (traditional fuel injectors) as well as direct injection. It blends those two systems depending on what the vehicle is doing.
Wish my Aluminator was included 😕
Alot of guys use truck motors to swap in a Mustang. Would have been good to include that too dog.
We're considering the truck engines for a separate video that's specific to F-150s as we build kits for those trucks. Noted!
Is an f150 gen 2 shortblock the same as the mustang, and in the same model years?
@@jamesb1856 it is not. They are lower compression in Gen 2 F-150s, 10.5:1. As a complete engine, they feature different cams, different intake manifolds, cast iron exhaust manifolds instead of stainless steel, and a few other things as well.
@@VMPPerformanceTV Are the rods the same? Looking to pulley down on my gen3r, but I don't think my gen 1 coyote will take it for long, and gen2 Coyotes seem hard to come by
@@jamesb1856 For 1st and 2ed gen I believe the only differences to the short block is the f150 version had lower compression pistons, a lower volume oil pump, and a smaller oil pan with no windage tray built into the pan gasket. The truck version also had a different timing cover that moved the alternator slightly more outboard. I believe the crank and rods were the same. There were also two versions of the block with 12mm and 11 head bolts. For a high boost application the 12mm bolts/studs are more desirable as they reach deep into the block and tie into the main webbing. The 11mm block the bolts only reach to about the level of the knock sensors and can crack in that location under extreme circumstances.
I don't know about the 3rd gen.
Gen 2 wasnt 526hp. 426
You missed the 07-12 5.4 gt500 motor and 13-14 5.8 gt500 motor
title clearly states COTOTE motors
@@Rob... your right the title says coyote motors but he was explaining the difference between the 5.0 coyote motor and the 5.2 voodoo flat plane motor and then went to the 5.2 gt500 motor so play attention to details
Hey Gregory. We were focusing on Coyote and Coyote varients. These engines in the GT500 vary in deck height from the Coyotes and are considered "of a different family". All that being said, it sounds like a fantastic idea for another video!
@@VMPPerformanceTV now you are on the right track 😀
What about the Gen 4 in the ‘21 F-150?
The difference is that they all sound like shit.
Even if you put the traditional mustang exhaust.
That everybody has always put on a mustang.
Flow master 40 Original
And H pipe. You could get close but you cannot replicate that original fox body sound. I wish ford would make the mustang sound like it did in the 80s
While they may be different, one thing they have in common is that they do the same thing as a pushrod engine, just unnecessarily more complex and expensive.
By that logic, they have two things in common since they also do the same thing as a pushrod engine only better.
dude... pushrod engines, solid axle and stuff like that are from the 60s.
only americans still use stuff like that.
there is nothing complicated with a dual overhead cam.
but yeah if you compare ancient technology like pushrods, its complicated...